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Australia defeat India by 5 wickets in 1st ODI (Perth)

This is why I rate him as the best. But both these batsmen are capable of entering a beast zone, sometihng that sets them apart. However, the way both achieve this is quite opposite. AB turns into this innovation factory, while Rohit plunders attacks with classical batting and bowlers stand no chance. Ever since he started opening, Rohit has turned into a master of 50 over Cricket. Everything he does has a grace and art about it, so I can see why some people prefer him.

I prefer the classy style of Rohit too when he gets going.

But that does not make AB a "Tulley Baaz" in the way he achieves his runs.

Otherwise your definition of "Tulley Baaz" is completely different.
 
AB is anything but tullaybaaz. He can play in a variety of styles. However I may be in the minority here, but I don't find AB's shots even in tests to be as pleasing to the eyes as it is for the shots of Williamson, Rahane, etc. I find Amla's play more pleasing to the eyes than AB's even though I hate his batting stance.
 
I prefer the classy style of Rohit too when he gets going.

But that does not make AB a "Tulley Baaz" in the way he achieves his runs.

Otherwise your definition of "Tulley Baaz" is completely different.

Rohit is the king of flat tracks though. Gotta give him that.
 
You have to give it to the Indian batsmen. Their approach to batting is pure masterclass. Full of confidence, aggressive approach, rotating the strike, and putting away the bad deliveries. Our batsmen (though highly talented) can really learn a thing or two from the boys in blue.

Mashallah. Kya joke maara hai.
 
Not overall, but AB's beast mode does involve some high quality tulleybaazi imo.

None of his shots are tulleybaazi. They are all proper cricketing shots but improvised. Never does he close his eyes and swings wildly.
 
On what basis has sran been selected, his first class record is also very poor, did he also send some biryani to dhoni? :msd
 
I think my understanding of the term tulley-baaz was seriously flawed. Sorry to AB fans, didn't mean it like that.
 
Can't see India winning this, they don't have the firepower to get to 300+ and challenge the Aussies.

They'll need the Aussies to bat poorly to win.
 
AB is anything but "tulley-baazi".

You need to see the guy bat in tests when required to defend.

He plays the way the game is supposed to go.

"Tulley Baaz" is someone like Afridi or Umar Akmal.

We are talking about ODIs here. It makes no sense when people bring his defending skills in tests to the discussion. AB does do a significant amount of slogging (in fact, he gets praised for being a "360" player unlike other sloggers) which makes his batting very "unclassical" in ODIs.
 
None of his shots are tulleybaazi. They are all proper cricketing shots but improvised. Never does he close his eyes and swings wildly.

Maxwell doesn't swing blindly either and does a lot of improvisations, but he's still called a slogger.
 
On what basis has sran been selected, his first class record is also very poor, did he also send some biryani to dhoni? :msd

Lol, it means you don't even follow your domestic tournaments, or fan of IPL? [MENTION=134981]Bhaag Viru Bhaag[/MENTION]
 
Can't see India winning this, they don't have the firepower to get to 300+ and challenge the Aussies.

They'll need the Aussies to bat poorly to win.

We won't win overseas in ODIs/Tests until we have some good fast bowlers. Batsmen can only score. Who will pick up wickets?
 
AB is anything but tullaybaaz. He can play in a variety of styles. However I may be in the minority here, but I don't find AB's shots even in tests to be as pleasing to the eyes as it is for the shots of Williamson, Rahane, etc. I find Amla's play more pleasing to the eyes than AB's even though I hate his batting stance.
You're not alone.
 
Lol, it means you don't even follow your domestic tournaments, or fan of IPL? [MENTION=134981]Bhaag Viru Bhaag[/MENTION]

Not many Indians do. Pretty sure many don't even know which Ranji teams these guys belong to..By the way, being a fan of IPL is not a bad thing.
 
Its fine for now I think. No Starc to bowl Yorkers at the death so we can accelerate in the last 10-15 if we have wickets.
Where are your power hitters to get you to 300?

Fine going at 5, but you need a good finish to get to 300.
 
I think my understanding of the term tulley-baaz was seriously flawed. Sorry to AB fans, didn't mean it like that.

Tullaybaaz definition varies with people. As far as I'm concerned, planting your front foot on the leg side and hacking the ball towards the mid wicket with all your might without timing the ball properly is textbook hacking.

AB, even when he plays outrageous shots, times the ball from the centre of the bat and rarely scores boundaries off mishits.

But if you went and asked an English cricketer of the yesteryears, he would tell you that any shot played away from the body is ugly cricket. And till the 1930s, bowling on the batsman's legs was considered ugly and unsportsmanlike. Ironically, they were the pioneers of body line bowling.
 
Pakistan better pray for even those when you go down under next year :))) .

No, brother. We prefer real victories. Moral victories concept is only limited to our indian brethren which they invented in the wake of the recent away tours.
 
Where are your power hitters to get you to 300?

Fine going at 5, but you need a good finish to get to 300.

They scored 300 multiple times in the WC against good bowling teams. Guess you weren't watching.

The plan is to have one of the top 3 stay till the end and then Dhoni, Jadeja, Ashwin etc need to chip in at the end.
 
No, brother. We prefer real victories. Moral victories concept is only limited to our indian brethren which they invented in the wake of the recent away tours.

Well you're not getting either anyway so its a fool's hope. Reality is what keeps us sane after all bro. :)
 
Australia Squad

SPD Smith*, GJ Bailey, SM Boland, JP Faulkner, AJ Finch, JR Hazlewood, MR Marsh, SE Marsh, GJ Maxwell, JS Paris, KW Richardson, MS Wade†, DA Warner

India Squad

MS Dhoni*†, R Ashwin, R Dhawan, S Dhawan, Gurkeerat Singh, RA Jadeja, V Kohli, B Kumar, MK Pandey, AR Patel, AM Rahane, I Sharma, RG Sharma, BB Sran, UT Yadav
2 sharma's and 2 dhawan's

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Well you're not getting either anyway so its a fool's hope. Reality is what keeps us sane after all bro. :)

Last time we played australia in england. We beat them in t20s and tests. I would say dont jump the gun too early brother or that reality might come back to bite you on the backside.
 
Rohit averages a beastly 60+ in australia at a strike rate of 92 with 3 centuries, and to think sachin has just 1 odi century in australia, what has this world come to :troll
 
I am still wondering who will be the guy in our middle order who can come up and whack the bowlers after 40 years?
 
No, brother. We prefer real victories. Moral victories concept is only limited to our indian brethren which they invented in the wake of the recent away tours.

Like Pakistan's last test series in Zimbabwe. Oh wait.
 
More like 400 to ensure a win in these conditions I assume. Remember the WC last year? Had massive scores.
Yet no one chased a 300 plus total (apart from against Minnows ) in the world cup.
So scoring 300+ gives a high probability of win
 
One thing Ive noticed is Indian batsmen arent panicking or anything even looking at the scoreboard. Yes they have slowed down, but they seem okay with it.

Our batsmen seem hurried, flustered and out of breath, with labored shots as if everything in their life depends on outcome of the next ball.

Dont know why.
 
They scored 300 multiple times in the WC against good bowling teams. Guess you weren't watching.

The plan is to have one of the top 3 stay till the end and then Dhoni, Jadeja, Ashwin etc need to chip in at the end.
Going at 10 an over in the last 10 overs isn't as easy now, you're allowed 5 outside of the 30 yard circle in the last 10.

I can't see India doing that with their current batting lineup.
 
India have a plan to make sure they wickets in hand in last 15 overs. They are batting well according to that plan, and will push for 300 here
 
Last time we played australia in england. We beat them in t20s and tests. I would say dont jump the gun too early brother or that reality might come back to bite you on the backside.

But you weren't talking about that..were you?

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Rohit averages a beastly 60+ in australia at a strike rate of 92 with 3 centuries, and to think sachin has just 1 odi century in australia, what has this world come to :troll

Of course this shows that rohit is a superior bat than sachin.
 
Last time we played australia in england. We beat them in t20s and tests. I would say dont jump the gun too early brother or that reality might come back to bite you on the backside.

And what happened in the last three tourscof Australia itself. Beating OZ in a neutral venue is nothing great. Beat them or atleast drawx1 match in OZ before you have such delusions of grandeur. Try and avoid a whitewash if you can. That would be Pakistan's first moral victory in Australia since 1995. :)
 
One thing Ive noticed is Indian batsmen arent panicking or anything even looking at the scoreboard. Yes they have slowed down, but they seem okay with it.

Our batsmen seem hurried, flustered and out of breath, with labored shots as if everything in their life depends on outcome of the next ball.

Dont know why.

Pakistan batsmen lack match awareness and temparement. They tend to play a big shot when under pressure. Indians look to milk the bowling , rotate the strike.
 
And what happened in the last three tourscof Australia itself. Beating OZ in a neutral venue is nothing great. Beat them or atleast drawx1 match in OZ before you have such delusions of grandeur. Try and avoid a whitewash if you can. That would be Pakistan's first moral victory in Australia since 1995. :)

Beating australia in england is not great? Kindly tell that to the indian team which has to suffer in england.
 
Batsmen still to come for India

Rahane, Pandey, Dhoni and Jadeja.
 
One thing Ive noticed is Indian batsmen arent panicking or anything even looking at the scoreboard. Yes they have slowed down, but they seem okay with it.

Our batsmen seem hurried, flustered and out of breath, with labored shots as if everything in their life depends on outcome of the next ball.

Dont know why.

Because they have limited shots in their repertoire and they try to slog their way through. Also, the inability to rotate the strike is why they panic.
 
I'm not watching at work or even on Cricinfo.

But keep looking here for updates on the action. Not the match - which is pointless and clearly Australia couldn't even be bothered to field a decent team.

No, the action is watching Pakistanis sledge Indians about a match no Aussies can be bothered to follow!
 
I'm not watching at work or even on Cricinfo.

But keep looking here for updates on the action. Not the match - which is pointless and clearly Australia couldn't even be bothered to field a decent team.

No, the action is watching Pakistanis sledge Indians about a match no Aussies can be bothered to follow!

Entertaining stuff, old chap. :ronaldo
 
Urm, what? We actually beat australia. You might want to check before exposing ignorance.

He was talking about matches IN Australia, this is where they are the hardest to beat and this is where Indian moral victories came.

The same country where Pakistan has been getting whitewashed for last 15 years. :)
 
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