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England v India | 2nd Test | July 17-21 2014 | Lord's

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To be honest, our same batsmen survived a lot more swing coming in at 145kph in South Africa. This 130kph trundling shouldn't be as big a challenge as we believe.
 
Bumble and Holding have already found something to moan about: Too much workload on the England bowlers - they've been bowling effectively for 2 and a half days now. *shakes head*
 
To be honest, our same batsmen survived a lot more swing coming in at 145kph in South Africa. This 130kph trundling shouldn't be as big a challenge as we believe.

Actually 130ks is tougher to face than 145 on such a deck as the ball has got more 'opportunity' to move and hoop around.
 
Pads up Gambhir, you're playing three tests in England.
 
Walking wicket Dhawan departs. Big inswinger followed by great outswinger from Anderson.
 
Come on, we should just graft until lunch. I don't even mind 30/1.
 
About to get going. Will India pick Jadeja so he can have a bit more of hows your father with Clouderson? Will Cook get into double digits? Will Dhawan cowlash his way to 29 and out?

Let's see!

Damn Dhawan didn't even get to 29
 
I don't think the swing will last long as it's hot and the haze has burned off already. If India get through the first hour it will get easier for them.
 
I don't think the swing will last long as it's hot and the haze has burned off already. If India get through the first hour it will get easier for them.

That's what I'm thinking. If they can survive the first hour or two only one or two down they will score 400+
 
Prior has dropped 4 catches in this series alone.
 
I don't think the swing will last long as it's hot and the haze has burned off already. If India get through the first hour it will get easier for them.

Looking at the way things are progressing we'd have lost all our batsmen already by then.

Except Kumar and Shami I suppose.
 
What the hell you doing barbie, please pitch it up and straight and make these fools play for God sake
 
I find it hard to believe that for all the hype, the dropped for being a trundler Peter Siddle has a better record than either of these opening bowlers.
 
I find it hard to believe that for all the hype, the dropped for being a trundler Peter Siddle has a better record than either of these opening bowlers.

I can't believe both of these two get to play on decks like these every now and then and still average 30.50
 
I can't believe both of these two get to play on decks like these every now and then and still average 30.50

They were pretty poor during the start of their careers.. But still 30 avg despite having played 50 test matches each in England is unacceptable
 
cloudy landing it in the right areas now.. good contest between him and che
 
I can't believe both of these two get to play on decks like these every now and then and still average 30.50

The answer to that is that they don't. Headingley used to be a green mamba in the eighties, but every wicket more recently has been a pudding of one sort or another. Until this one.

Jimmy was overcoached early on in his career - they tinkered with his action and messed him up, like they did to Finn. That ruined his figures, though they have slowly been improving slowly since 2010. He's not a Willis or Snow or young Botham - he's just 'good'.
 
so green pitch to exploit home advantage for England.no criticism.Yet when a pitch takes a bit of turn in India,all hell breaks loose
 
Bernie Ecclestone and Steve Waugh in the stands.
 
The answer to that is that they don't. Headingley used to be a green mamba in the eighties, but every wicket more recently has been a pudding of one sort or another. Until this one.

Jimmy was overcoached early on in his career - they tinkered with his action and messed him up, like they did to Finn. That ruined his figures, though they have slowly been improving slowly since 2010. He's not a Willis or Snow or young Botham - he's just 'good'.

Yeah, never said he was 'bad' outright. Sky just put up a stat saying that he's now the leading wicket taker in England, having passed Truman. Good stuff.
 
so green pitch to exploit home advantage for England.no criticism.Yet when a pitch takes a bit of turn in India,all hell breaks loose

"The pitch is a disgrace, India are doctoring wickets to suit themselves."
 
England not making the batsman play enough


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so green pitch to exploit home advantage for England.no criticism.Yet when a pitch takes a bit of turn in India,all hell breaks loose
Where have you been? Everyone has accepted home ground advantage...
 
Stop expecting a wicket people. This is going to 100 run partnership.
 
Would expect clouderson and broad to bowl better than this on a green wicket


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Agreed, still early but they're bowling like how Steyn bowled to us in South Africa: outswinger-outswinger-outswinger-outswinger. All left alone.
 
Agreed, still early but they're bowling like how Steyn bowled to us in South Africa: outswinger-outswinger-outswinger-outswinger. All left alone.

Steyn is on another level to these two


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Expecting a Pujara ton and Rahane to do well think Kohli might struggle


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