How do England fit Jonny Bairstow into their ODI line up?

[Hasan123]

Johnny Bairstow has been in terrific form recently. In tests he is arguably England's 2nd best batsmen. His agressive batting has helped England as well showing terrific tempremeant at times.

Question is how do England find a place for him in odi team? For me I would drop Moen Ali and but Bairstow in the line up.

How about you guys?

 

[Mamoon]

Drop Moeen. He is an inferior all-rounder to Stokes, an inferior bowler to Rashid and an inferior batsman to Bairstow. In addition, his pies are only marginally better than Root's.

Roy
Hales
Root
Morgan *
Bairstow
Stokes
Buttler +
Woakes
Rashid
Plunkett/Willey
Wood

 

[Hasan123]

Drop Moeen. He is an inferior all-rounder to Stokes, an inferior bowler to Rashid and an inferior batsman to Bairstow. In addition, his pies are only marginally better than Root's.

Roy
Hales
Root
Morgan *
Bairstow
Stokes
Buttler +
Woakes
Rashid
Plunkett/Willey
Wood

Good line up. I would go for this as well.

Every basis is covered. Maybe right hand /left hand combination at the top would be better but Hales and Roy are selected on merit. So it's a strong team overall.

 

[Mamoon]

Good line up. I would go for this as well.

Every basis is covered. Maybe right hand /left hand combination at the top would be better but Hales and Roy are selected on merit. So it's a strong team overall.

Easily the best batting lineup in the world. Fielding is top notch as well, only question mark is the bowling. If they can restrict teams to 320, England will be pretty much unstoppable.

 

[Hasan123]

Easily the best batting lineup in the world. Fielding is top notch as well, only question mark is the bowling. If they can restrict teams to 320, England will be pretty much unstoppable.

Fielding can be a bit dodgy at times. They have made some costly mistakes in tests and in odis in the field. Be interesting to see how they go in the field when the pressure is on.

England are better off batting 1st.

 

[Global Insight]

Drop Moeen. He is an inferior all-rounder to Stokes, an inferior bowler to Rashid and an inferior batsman to Bairstow. In addition, his pies are only marginally better than Root's.

Roy
Hales
Root
Morgan *
Bairstow
Stokes
Buttler +
Woakes
Rashid
Plunkett/Willey
Wood

Absolutely lethal of a team.

 

[Mamoon]

Fielding can be a bit dodgy at times. They have made some costly mistakes in tests and in odis in the field. Be interesting to see how they go in the field when the pressure is on.

England are better off batting 1st.

Rashid and Plunkett are the only weak-links in the field. Well I believe that if your strength is batting, you should back yourself to chase big totals. Their batting is powerful enough to chase down any total up to 350, but considering how flat their bowling can be at times, no total is safe enough. We saw that in the Indian series as well: they failed to defend 350, but nearly pulled off a mammoth chase of 380. They would have lost the the third ODI as well, but Jadhav choked in the end. They would struggle to defend totals against teams like Australia.

 

[Syed1]

Drop Moeen. He is an inferior all-rounder to Stokes, an inferior bowler to Rashid and an inferior batsman to Bairstow. In addition, his pies are only marginally better than Root's.

Roy
Hales
Root
Morgan *
Bairstow
Stokes
Buttler +
Woakes
Rashid
Plunkett/Willey
Wood

Damn just look at that side and then compare with our tuk tukiyaas


Anyone of their top 7 could walk into our side and be arguably the best batsman in the team.

 

[Mamoon]

Absolutely lethal of a team.

The batting depth is ridiculous. Their number 10 and number 11s have hundreds and fifties in County cricket.

 

[Hamza_]

Drop Moeen. He is an inferior all-rounder to Stokes, an inferior bowler to Rashid and an inferior batsman to Bairstow. In addition, his pies are only marginally better than Root's.

Roy
Hales
Root
Morgan *
Bairstow
Stokes
Buttler +
Woakes
Rashid
Plunkett/Willey
Wood

Wow this is one strong team, Willey should play ahead of Punkett.

 

[Mamoon]

Damn just look at that side and then compare with our tuk tukiyaas


Anyone of their top 7 could walk into our side and be arguably the best batsman in the team.

England has always been my second team, but even from a neutral perspective, their current ODI team is breathtaking to watch.

 

[Mamoon]

Wow this is one strong team, Willey should play ahead of Punkett.

Willey is a better batsman but Plunkett is a better bowler, so it is a tough call. I would probably go with the latter because the batting is already incredibly strong.

 

[Hasan123]

Rashid and Plunkett are the only weak-links in the field. Well I believe that if your strength is batting, you should back yourself to chase big totals. Their batting is powerful enough to chase down any total up to 350, but considering how flat their bowling can be at times, no total is safe enough. We saw that in the Indian series as well: they failed to defend 350, but nearly pulled off a mammoth chase of 380. They would have lost the the third ODI as well, but Jadhav choked in the end. They would struggle to defend totals against teams like Australia.

Australia vs England on a flat pitch could be a good battle. Australia seem to have the bowlers that could potentially stop the England batting line up.

 

[Abdullah719]

Whilst I am as much of a fan as anyone [MENTION=46929]shaz619[/MENTION], the only realistic opening I can see for Bairstow is if he replaces Moeen.

Roy and Hales are set as openers.

Root is their Babar.

Morgan is captain.

Stokes is a more consistent all-round option than Moeen.

Buttler is the keeper.

Rashid, Woakes et al. are all better bowlers than Moeen.

 

[BD-fan]

All I can say is that, 1982 Brazil didn't win the WC.

1983 Ind wins the WC. 1996 SL wins it. And in the last one NZ got blown away in the finals.

This is a team game at the end of the day.

 

[Hamza_]

Willey is a better batsman but Plunkett is a better bowler, so it is a tough call. I would probably go with the latter because the batting is already incredibly strong.

He is a left armer and bowls with new ball.

 

[Haz95]

Just ridiculous amounts of batting strength. Need some slight adjustments to the bowling and I reckon England should be taking the CT home at home. Would be v nice.

 

[ads101]

Drop Moeen. I'm not to thrilled on Rashid either wouldn't mind Moeen taking Rashid's place either instead. But agree, definitely a good idea to include Bairstow.

 

[Muhammad10]

One of their best batsmen, should bat at 4, with Morgan shifting down to 5.

 

[Markhor]

Wow this is one strong team, Willey should play ahead of Punkett.

Plunkett offers more than Willey.

Willey doesn't pose much threat beyond a couple of overs of the new ball where he can get it to swing.

Plunkett has still maintained his pace and is a good death bowling option.

 

[Markhor]

Drop Moeen. He is an inferior all-rounder to Stokes, an inferior bowler to Rashid and an inferior batsman to Bairstow. In addition, his pies are only marginally better than Root's.

Roy
Hales
Root
Morgan *
Bairstow
Stokes
Buttler +
Woakes
Rashid
Plunkett/Willey
Wood

Buttler won't be batting at 7, that's too low a position for such a destructive batsman.

I'd go for Buttler at 5, Bairstow at 6 in a finisher's role and Stokes at 7.

 

[Slog]

Buttler won't be batting at 7, that's too low a position for such a destructive batsman.

I'd go for Buttler at 5, Bairstow at 6 in a finisher's role and Stokes at 7.

Stokes and Buttler are more equipped to play the finisher role imo

Bairstow can be a solid middle order batsman who can average 45+ at a 90+ SR.

Honestly if Root wasnt Golden Boy and Morgan wasnt captain, either of the two would have to make way for Bairstow on current form (though Root himself is in crazy good form)

 

[Mamoon]

Buttler won't be batting at 7, that's too low a position for such a destructive batsman.

I'd go for Buttler at 5, Bairstow at 6 in a finisher's role and Stokes at 7.

Ideally not, but he is the most explosive batsman in the team. He can convert a 300 into a 350 coming in at number 7, which he has done time and time again.

 

[ExpressPacer]

Buttler should replace Root at 3 for me. Root is destined for great things and is easily one of the bests batsmen in the world but Buttler deserves that role much more. His batting is absolutely perfect for the No.3 position.

 

[Chief Destroyer]

Bairstow averaging 50 at 100 now. Yet I was told Root is more dynamic.

 

[Hasan123]

They found a way to fit him in. But one thing I don't understand is why he wants to continue keeping in tests. He should ditch the gloves and and move up the order. He's willing to face 2 new balls in LO cricket. So he should be fine to bat at 4 without the gloves in tests.

 

[introvert]

Bairstow nailed opener spot and easily outclassed roy & hales in such a short time.

 

[Arham_PakFan]

So he has scored 3 consecutive ODI tons.

2 vs New Zealand in March and the one yesterday against Scotland,which was also the third fastest hundred by an Englishman.

 

[Robert]

Bairstow should open in ODIs - tests too I think - and Buttler should be #5.

 

[ManFan]

Always maintained he was ENG’s best bat after Root in ODI’s and Cook in Tests.

Love his style, especially that short arm jab.

 

[Rahul1]

Drop Moeen. He is an inferior all-rounder to Stokes, an inferior bowler to Rashid and an inferior batsman to Bairstow. In addition, his pies are only marginally better than Root's.

Roy
Hales
Root
Morgan *
Bairstow
Stokes
Buttler +
Woakes
Rashid
Plunkett/Willey
Wood

Look at that batting line up.

Meanwhile, we are doomed if our top 3 falls cheaply.

 

[Mamoon]

Look at that batting line up.

Meanwhile, we are doomed if our top 3 falls cheaply.

You have arguably the greatest ODI batsman in history, who alone is worth 3-4 of the English batsmen.

 

[Robert]

You have arguably the greatest ODI batsman in history, who alone is worth 3-4 of the English batsmen.

Oh, is his average 100-150 then? Who is this superman?

 

[pratiktc]

England successfully made an opener out of Bairstow. India somehow has to fit Rahul into top 3. Dunno who'll drop down though

 

[giri26]

England batting is always going to be a handful, it is their bowling which will be under pressure. They scored a lot of runs in 2017 in India but they also conceded lots of runs in that series. If wickets are anywhere close to what we are seeing in the Royal Adelaide cup, I wouldn't want to be a bowler in this series.

 

[Suleiman]

I was happy for Bairstow when he got the promotion during Hales suspension, but even then I felt uneasy because Hales/Roy was such a good pair at the top. Even now I feel like Hales should open with Roy and Bairstow bat at 3, but idk, it's just my gut feeling. I trust my gut though.

 

[msb314]

Drop Moeen. He is an inferior all-rounder to Stokes, an inferior bowler to Rashid and an inferior batsman to Bairstow. In addition, his pies are only marginally better than Root's.

Roy
Hales
Root
Morgan *
Bairstow
Stokes
Buttler +
Woakes
Rashid
Plunkett/Willey
Wood

Stokes is the weak link IMO.

Can't recall him playing a match winnings innings since the 258 vs SAF in 2016.

He cannot blow away the opposition with the bat or ball. He is good for 30-40 runs and maybe 1-2 wickets which is enough to keep your place in the team but not for a star-studded lineup like England. Has a bad attitude on top of it.

Moeen scored a 53 ball century not too long ago and looked good against Scotland too one match ago.

Moeen is comfortably the better batsman than Stokes although I admit that his spin bowling is useless in English conditions so Stoke's pace bowling may give Stoke''s the edge there.

Stokes is probably the bigger "star" but not sure how much that matters or should matter...

 

[introvert]

I was happy for Bairstow when he got the promotion during Hales suspension, but even then I felt uneasy because Hales/Roy was such a good pair at the top. Even now I feel like Hales should open with Roy and Bairstow bat at 3, but idk, it's just my gut feeling. I trust my gut though.

That's not possible because it forces England to play with only 5 bowling options instead of 6. Also One of stokes or moeen sit out.

 

[introvert]

Stokes is the weak link IMO.

Can't recall him playing a match winnings innings since the 258 vs SAF in 2016.

He cannot blow away the opposition with the bat or ball. He is good for 30-40 runs and maybe 1-2 wickets which is enough to keep your place in the team but not for a star-studded lineup like England. Has a bad attitude on top of it.

Moeen scored a 53 ball century not too long ago and looked good against Scotland too one match ago.

Moeen is comfortably the better batsman than Stokes although I admit that his spin bowling is useless in English conditions so Stoke's pace bowling may give Stoke''s the edge there.

Stokes is probably the bigger "star" but not sure how much that matters or should matter...

Stokes did blow out Australia out of champions trophy last year.
Both stokes and moeen are equally important for England. Playing both together allows them to play with 6 bowling options without compromising batting depth.