India [252] defeat New Zealand [217] by 35 runs to win the 5th ODI and win series 4-1

[Nikhil_cric]

Batting will be super light then. Just get Taylor and KW out. You are done.

Guptill
Nicholls
KW
Taylor
Latham

Neesham
Santner
Henry
Boult
Lockie/Southee

They only need one more batter who can double up as 6th bowler or even as a pure batter if KW doubles up as 6th bowler. If they peak right, they can be a damn good side.

 

[Indiafan]

I know its England but i don't want Bhuvi ahead of Shami in WC, 252

Bhuvi is Australia ODI series - 8 wickets at 17 with strike rate 21

Shami in Aus ODI series -5 wickets at 30 with strike rate 35

For some reason Indian fans are extremely biased against Bhuvi to the extent it seems staggering. Any excuse to want him out

When it comes to test, Ishant's RECENT form is considered for him to be selected over Bhuvi, Bhuvi who has a career average of 26 in tests after over 20 games. But when it comes to ODI's recent form is not

Pace is often touted completely ignorning his increase in pace. In fact he was the fastest bowler last match, on par with Pandya

Some sort of ridiculous biasedness

 

[Nikhil_cric]

The problem with Boult is that he doesn't offer much if the ball isn't moving. That's an issue with all our bowlers, the A/Rs can't even keep it tight against good team irrespective of condiitions and leak runs like crazy in the middle overs. Death bowling is also a concern.

A lot of holes all round which is why most don't have high expectations. Semis would be overachieving.

Your team is actually almost done. Maybe give Seifert the gloves and play Latham as a pure batter or something in the lineup i've posted above and KW for 6th bowler quota . Just need to find some form. Just throw out hacks like Munro and bits and pieces like CDG, Corey Anderson etc. Neesham is the only allrounder you need.

 

[Aman]

Your team is actually almost done. Maybe give Seifert the gloves and play Latham as a pure batter or something in the lineup i've posted above and KW for 6th bowler quota . Just need to find some form. Just throw out hacks like Munro and bits and pieces like CDG, Corey Anderson etc. Neesham is the only allrounder you need.

Kane is not going to bowl and Seifert may be given another look against Bangladesh.

I'm not sure about the team's ability to chase 300+ scores (which we'll likely be doing often), don't really trust anyone in the middle order to handle the pressure of a big chase or to contribute with big knocks if the top order have been knocked over cheaply.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Kane is not going to bowl and Seifert may be given another look against Bangladesh.

I'm not sure about the team's ability to chase 300+ scores (which we'll likely be doing often), don't really trust anyone in the middle order to handle the pressure of a big chase or to contribute with big knocks if the top order have been knocked over cheaply.

In NZ you can chase. English pitchecs will offer more turn in dry conditions. Will be hard to go after spinners.

 

[jnaveen1980]

With no Kuldeep it will go pear shaped very quickly for India.

 

[Justcrazy]

Nicoholls opening the batting here for first time.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Nicoholls opening the batting here for first time.

he did in the 4th ODI as well.

 

[Justcrazy]

Munro smashes that one

 

[jnaveen1980]

It is super easy to chase runs in NZ. Even 300 plus. So it is as good as over.

 

[Justcrazy]

Nicholls gone !

I do not think Nicholls is suited for opening , someone like Neesham should be used as an opener.

 

[jnaveen1980]

I would be ****** off if Indian batsman gets out like this. They have under 5 an over.. WHy would you bat like you are chasing 350. This is called adapting your batting style according to situation not randomly slogging everything.

 

[BreadPakoda]

My friend [MENTION=129948]Bilal7[/MENTION] might be wrong on a 100 things, but he's right about Bhuvi being a blunt spearhead. Where is Bilal, by the way?

 

[jnaveen1980]

Nicholls gone !

I do not think Nicholls is suited for opening , someone like Neesham should be used as an opener.

They are trying to create a mccullum out of thin air. Brendon was one of a kind. Not everyone can be like him.

 

[BreadPakoda]

They are trying to create a mccullum out of thin air. Brendon was one of a kind. Not everyone can be like him.

Same Brendon played the most comical innings in a WC final in the history of the game.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Same Brendon played the most comical innings in a WC final in the history of the game.

Can happen to any good player in such scenario. But ia m talking about his entire career and how he was able to be successful with that approach as an opener.

 

[jnaveen1980]

This Munro is another slogger. WHy do you bat like this lol

 

[Joginder_Sharma]

I would be ****** off if Indian batsman gets out like this. They have under 5 an over.. WHy would you bat like you are chasing 350. This is called adapting your batting style according to situation not randomly slogging everything.

I am more bewildered by Munro's approach. He may pull it off but it's not the ideal way to start off the chase.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Rohit has blocked Williamson's favorite area. Interesting. Rohti is a good captain. I'll give him that.

 

[jnaveen1980]

I am more bewildered by Munro's approach. He may pull it off but it's not the ideal way to start off the chase.

It is almost like i will do the same no matter what the scenario is.

 

[ILcricket]

252 will be very tough to defend .

 

[jnaveen1980]

252 will be very tough to defend .

Yes. Very hard with this attack. No kuldeep. Chahal can go both ways in this ground. He can be attacked. Pandya is not in complete rythm yet.

 

[jnaveen1980]

This is brilliant from Rohit. All teams will take a note of this. That is his favorite single scoring area.

 

[jnaveen1980]

oops. Almost played on again by KW. KW will have to shed this weakness. Otherwise he will have to regret in an important match.

 

[Stalin]

Shami must be kept bubble wrapped for the world cup. Bowling brilliantly.

 

[Aman]

Every team is going to bowl in that cordon to Kane, he compulsively plays that shot.

He's not Kohli, that isn't an easy single/boundary for him.

 

[Aman]

oops. Almost played on again by KW. KW will have to shed this weakness. Otherwise he will have to regret in an important match.

He gets out behind square/chop on/slips playing in that region the majority of the time. He doesn't play that shot well and teams have worked it out. It use to be an easy single for him in every format and was a big reason why he started to score heavily around 2014-16.

Since teams have shut it down, he's started to chop on more trying to work the angle to hit the gap.

He really needs to figure out how to counter this or he's going to start eating up balls and go nowhere.

 

[Justcrazy]

29 . 1

Indian bowlers bowling pretty well here.

 

[jnaveen1980]

He gets out behind square/chop on/slips playing in that region the majority of the time. He doesn't play that shot well and teams have worked it out. It use to be an easy single for him in every format and was a big reason why he started to score heavily around 2014-16.

Since teams have shut it down, he's started to chop on more trying to work the angle to hit the gap.

Kohli moves across and works through on side. KW is a bit more orthodox. So he will find it harder to score through that cordon without taking risks.

 

[jnaveen1980]

This is a challenging total to defend. NZ bats deep. 9 batsmen.

 

[Aman]

Kohli moves across and works through on side. KW is a bit more orthodox. So he will find it harder to score through that cordon without taking risks.

Exactly, Kane can't work the other areas well. He's kinda one dimensional that way and teams have figured out.

Look now, he's still trying to do when he can play other shots straight or pull.

 

[Joginder_Sharma]

Henry is also a very good batsman , I remember him going absolutely bonkers against I think Pakistan.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Kane can take his time here. Not a big total to chase. HIs form is important for NZ.

 

[Aman]

Kane can take his time here. Not a big total to chase. HIs form is important for NZ.

This isn't form, it's a technique/shot issue. They've shut down his scoring zone and he doesn't have the game to play shots into other regions to the balls they're giving him like Kohli, Rohit etc.

He has a limited amount of shots he can play to a ball and India are feeding him balls trying to induce shots behind square.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Dhoni proxy captaincy again. He is basically there for this.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Monroe certified hack getting away lol

 

[Aman]

Munro playing the same shot over and over again

Predictable.

Hack through leg side.

 

[jnaveen1980]

India has just one main spinner today.

 

[Aman]

And he chops on as predicted.

What a garbage batsmen.

Hopefully the last we see of him in ODis.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Munro gone.

 

[jnaveen1980]

More than the technique it is about responsibility. You have a manageable target in your sight. What do you do? Trying to hack everything through leg side.

 

[Sidilicious]

Should bring on Chahal from one end now. Need to get Taylor and Williamson soon.

 

[Justcrazy]

Shami gets another one

 

[Joginder_Sharma]

Lol how is Munro an opening batsman ??? good God what a hack, you need players who can bide their time at the top not someone who's swinging his bat at every ball.

 

[Aman]

More than the technique it is about responsibility. You have a manageable target in your sight. What do you do? Trying to hack everything through leg side.

He averages 25 after 50 ODIs...

Honestly feels like he can get out any ball, McCUllum went after anything and he still didn't give that feeling. At least when he played a couple of good shots, you could bank on him scoring at least 30.

 

[Aman]

Lol how is Munro an opening batsman ??? good God what a hack, you need players who can bide their time at the top not someone who's swinging his bat at every ball.

They thought he could play the McCullum role, problem is he doesn't have 1/1,000,000th of the talent McCullum had.

 

[Joginder_Sharma]

Shami's seam presentation is a sight to behold.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Williamson continues edging the ball close to the stumps.

 

[Aman]

Munro's reaction makes me think he knows it's over.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Shami is feeling stiff. Take him off. He is a highly injury prone bowler.

 

[Joginder_Sharma]

Taylor gone ... 38/3

 

[Justcrazy]

Pandya is having a great game

 

[Aman]

Fortunately we're batting deep and aren't chasing a big total, so I'm not too worried yet.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Pandya has this great incoming ball. You can under-estimate him at your own peril with ball. He can clock 140 plus k. Also he can get the ball move off the seam bothways. He has a effort bouncer as well.

 

[Aman]

Should have reviewed

 

[Aman]

Kane wth man.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Should have reviewed

In real time it looked out lol So KW screwed him over. Probably he thought it was umpire's call . He could have still retained the review.

 

[Aman]

In real time it looked out lol So KW screwed him over. Probably he thought it was umpire's call . He could have still retained the review.

Yeah, the worst case was umpires call.

 

[Joginder_Sharma]

That' why Munro needed to bide time ... hacking against Shankar is easier than Shami.

 

[Aman]

Everyone thought Rayudu played bad, Kane out here with 6 (28) and going nowhere.

 

[Aman]

That' why Munro needed to bide time ... hacking against Shankar is easier than Shami.

Munro is pretty talented, but his cricket IQ is nil.

 

[Aman]

India have done well to shut down the singles, have to show some patience and wait for the bad balls.

 

[Sam99]

Everyone thought Rayudu played bad, Kane out here with 6 (28) and going nowhere.

You will be really surprised if you dig kane williamson's stats. His stats in asia and top sides is pretty poor. Avg around 35 - 38 and strike in 70s pretty much harmless. His stats in South Africa & England is again 20s & 30s in tests & in Asia he is pretty avg in tests too.

 

[Aman]

This is when Kane becomes a liability, he's so bad when he's like this.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

So there is swing, uneven bounce and some movement off the deck. I thought this was a batting paradise?

 

[Aman]

You will be really surprised if you dig kane williamson's stats. His stats in asia and top sides is pretty poor. Avg around 35 - 38 and strike in 70s pretty much harmless. His stats in South Africa & England is again 20s & 30s in tests & in Asia he is pretty avg in tests too.

Kane is a technical batsmen, but I don't think he''s very talented or mentally strong/elite. He's not mentally strong like Smith who can score runs in the truckloads while not being exceptionally talented or naturally talented like Rohit who can play multiple shots to every ball. Kohli has both and that's why he's the best batsmen of this generation.

 

[Aman]

So there is swing, uneven bounce and some movement off the deck. I thought this was a batting paradise?

Nothing too challenging, you're bowling in the right the channels and have tied the batsmen down. They can't do anything to the back of the length ball. It's not like Kohli/Rohit who would pull it behind square, cut or drive it down the covers/ground. They're banging it back of a length or at 5th stump waiting for the chop on/mistake.

 

[Stalin]

Pandya is giving nothing away.

 

[jeeteshssaxena]

Kane is rayudu part 2 in odis.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Batting gets easier under lights so we need a couple more ASAP.

 

[Justcrazy]

Kiwis need 199 more . They have batting to come , but one of these two need to bat through

 

[Oligochaetes]

Shankar is yet to get an international ODI wicket...

 

[Akki malhotra]

We need them 100-5.

 

[jnaveen1980]

India has 5 thbowler weakness. Bhuvi no good with old ball. Pandya is still getting back his rhythm. NZ can just stroll trhough

 

[Aman]

Kane has looked way worse than Rayudu out here.

 

[Justcrazy]

Williamson getting a move along

 

[Aman]

Not really sure how much we can leave for the A/Rs.

They're not consistent and who knows what they'll do today.

 

[Oligochaetes]

NZ are favorites to win this. But I will acknowledge that Indians batted well to get to 252 from 18-4.

 

[Shandarchowka]

Latham is class

 

[Justcrazy]

Required rate is still under control here , need to keep rotating the strike