Liverpool FC 2025/26 Season

[BouncerGuy]

Liverpool to bid for Hugo Ekitike after encouragement he prefers Anfield move

Liverpool are poised to make a bid for Hugo Ekitike, with the Eintracht Frankfurt striker understood to favour a move to the Premier League champions over Newcastle.

Newcastle and Liverpool have held talks with Frankfurt this week over the France Under-21s international, with the former having a £70m offer rejected and attempting to reach an agreement during further negotiations on Wednesday.

Liverpool’s discussions with the German club have also intensified over the past 48 hours and the Anfield club have informed Eintracht that they will bid for Ekitike. The 23-year-old has a €100m (£86.5m) release clause but whether Liverpool’s opening offer will go that high remains to be seen. Talks between the clubs will continue on Thursday and Liverpool have received encouragement that Ekitike wants to join them.

Alexander Isak had topped Liverpool’s list of targets for a No 9 and the champions were willing to pay a British record transfer fee to secure the Newcastle forward, but their understanding is the Sweden international is not for sale.

Liverpool to bid for Hugo Ekitike after encouragement he prefers Anfield move

Liverpool are poised to bid for Hugo Ekitike, with the Eintracht Frankfurt striker understood to favour a move to Anfield over Newcastle

www.theguardian.com

 

[KingKhanWC]

It is not even relevant why Newcastle is not spending. If you have a billion pounds and you are not allowed to access them, are you a billionaire?

The fact is that Newcastle are not contenders for the PL and the UCL and neither are they looking to compete on those fronts right now. There is no pressure on Howe to win those competitions and his success/failure with not be judged by winning/losing those competitions.

The measure of success for Newcastle and Arsenal currently are very different, and this is why I have a problem with @Geordie Ahmed assessment that Saliba or Saka staying at Arsenal reflects a lack of ambition.

Staying at a club that is aiming to win the league and the CL and measures its success/failure by winning/losing those competitions is not the same as staying at a club that is not even looking to win these comps and success and failure criteria are different.

Finishing 3rd and making UCL QF will be an underwhelming season for Arsenal but a successful for Newcastle, so that is why I have a problem with drawing comparisons between the ambition of Isak and Arsenal players.

So yes, Isak stating at Newcastle and not forcing a move to Liverpool shows lack of ambition on his part, because he is one of the best strikers in Europe right now and at his age, he needs to play for a club whose success/failure is measured by winning/losing the league and the UCL, not by making top 4.

Every club wants to win the Premier League, Newcastle are no different. Their owners are as ambitious as any and are working towards being in a position where they can really challenge for the title.

From Newcastle's recent history the club was going down the toilet, until the Saudis bought. It will take some time, maybe even a decade but this club is huge, with a loyal following so its only a matter of time before they get very close to winning the PL or CL. Its unlikely but if things go their way and others falter, they can win it in the next few years.

 

[Mamoon]

Every club wants to win the Premier League, Newcastle are no different. Their owners are as ambitious as any and are working towards being in a position where they can really challenge for the title.

From Newcastle's recent history the club was going down the toilet, until the Saudis bought. It will take some time, maybe even a decade but this club is huge, with a loyal following so it’s only a matter of time before they get very close to winning the PL or CL. It’s unlikely but if things go their way and others falter, they can win it in the next few years.

Time doesn’t stop for anyone. Players only have short careers. They cannot waste their primes playing for a club that might compete a few seasons later.

Isak needs to move to a club that is challenging for the PL and UCL today. He is in his prime now and he is ready to compete for those competitions.

Him not pushing to move for Liverpool when they are knocking on the door for him reflects a complete lack of ambition on his part and is very sad to see.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Time doesn’t stop for anyone. Players only have short careers. They cannot waste their primes playing for a club that might compete a few seasons later.

Isak needs to move to a club that is challenging for the PL and UCL today. He is in his prime now and he is ready to compete for those competitions.

Him not pushing to move for Liverpool when they are knocking on the door for him reflects a complete lack of ambition on his part and is very sad to see.

The issue with this argument is WE have no idea what Isak thinks.

It could be Isak has seen Arsenal win ZERO trophies in 5 years and may feel the manager and club are chokers? If Arsenal continue chocking like the old Saffer cricket team, Newcastle could improve and take over. He also saw last season Newcastle beat Arsenal on numerous occasions, so may think its a step down. Remember you are Arsenal with 5 years of nothing, not PSG, Liverpool or Barca.

 

[IronShield]

Time doesn’t stop for anyone. Players only have short careers. They cannot waste their primes playing for a club that might compete a few seasons later.

Isak needs to move to a club that is challenging for the PL and UCL today. He is in his prime now and he is ready to compete for those competitions.

Him not pushing to move for Liverpool when they are knocking on the door for him reflects a complete lack of ambition on his part and is very sad to see.

I agree with you on this one. This year is his ideal opportunity to move to a club where he will vying for trophies and it works well for Newcastle too as he commands a record fee now. Couple of more years and he will not be commanding as big a fee but the big clubs may not have the vacancy for him to come in. If Gyokeras or Ekitiki hit it off for Arenal and Liverpool respectively then that that leaves him with no option for moving to a club in PL where he is most likely to win the title or champions league.

 

[Mamoon]

The issue with this argument is WE have no idea what Isak thinks.

It could be Isak has seen Arsenal win ZERO trophies in 5 years and may feel the manager and club are chokers? If Arsenal continue chocking like the old Saffer cricket team, Newcastle could improve and take over. He also saw last season Newcastle beat Arsenal on numerous occasions, so may think its a step down. Remember you are Arsenal with 5 years of nothing, not PSG, Liverpool or Barca.

Last I checked, Liverpool were making an offer him. Not sure what it has to do with Arsenal here.

You are making up your own argument here, this has nothing to do with Arsenal; it has to do with Isak not pushing for a move to Liverpool when they clearly want him.

Perhaps you are okay with Isak rejecting you because almost every other player these days rejects Liverpool, so it seems like it doesn’t bother you much. Your club has zero pull in spite of all the success.

Also, it is “choking” not “chocking”. At least get your spellings right if you want to troll.

 

[Geordie Ahmed]

I agree with you on this one. This year is his ideal opportunity to move to a club where he will vying for trophies and it works well for Newcastle too as he commands a record fee now. Couple of more years and he will not be commanding as big a fee but the big clubs may not have the vacancy for him to come in. If Gyokeras or Ekitiki hit it off for Arenal and Liverpool respectively then that that leaves him with no option for moving to a club in PL where he is most likely to win the title or champions league.

Couldn't disagree with this more

He's 25 so still about to enter his prime years, he has 3 years left on his contract so kicking up a fuss is just stupidity

Who cares about the door closing on Arsenal? As if joining Arsenal is a guarantee to winning trophies

If Isak is available in 12/24 months he will have plenty of suitors, both in the PL and abroad

 

[KingKhanWC]

Last I checked, Liverpool were making an offer him. Not sure what it has to do with Arsenal here.

You are making up your own argument here, this has nothing to do with Arsenal; it has to do with Isak not pushing for a move to Liverpool when they clearly want him.

Perhaps you are okay with Isak rejecting you because almost every other player these days rejects Liverpool, so it seems like it doesn’t bother you much. Your club has zero pull in spite of all the success.

Also, it is “choking” not “chocking”. At least get your spellings right if you want to troll.

Liverpool never made an offer and had no real intention to do so, otherwise they would have officially made an offer.

You're missing a simple point. Isak MAY NOT see moving to Arsenal for him winning the PL or CL, as you have chocked for 5 years in a row now, winning sweet fa.

Please continue to correct my typos, appreciate it.

 

[Mamoon]

Liverpool never made an offer and had no real intention to do so, otherwise they would have officially made an offer.

You're missing a simple point. Isak MAY NOT see moving to Arsenal for him winning the PL or CL, as you have chocked for 5 years in a row now, winning sweet fa.

Please continue to correct my typos, appreciate it.

Arsenal is not interested in Isak anyway. Why would they be when they are signing a far better goal scorer for less than half the price?

Gyokeres will be a better signing than Isak for the same price, let alone at their current valuations.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Arsenal is not interested in Isak anyway. Why would they be when they are signing a far better goal scorer for less than half the price?

Gyokeres will be a better signing than Isak for the same price, let alone at their current valuations.

You're going off on a tangent again.

You suggested Isak has no ambition while Saliba does. The point again is...Isak may see staying at Newcastle gives him more of a chance to win the PL or CL than if Saliba does at Arsenal. Poor Saliba has won nothing , his team bottled it year after year in all competitions! Saliba will be gone to Spain if you win nothing, this will confirm his ambitions.

 

[Geordie Ahmed]

Arsenal is not interested in Isak anyway. Why would they be when they are signing a far better goal scorer for less than half the price?

Gyokeres will be a better signing than Isak for the same price, let alone at their current valuations.

I'm not interested in owning a Ferrari anyway. I'm happy with my 2009 Honda Accord

 

[Mamoon]

I'm not interested in owning a Ferrari anyway. I'm happy with my 2009 Honda Accord

Except that Gyokeres is the Ferrari and Isak is the Accord.

Gyokeres wipes the floor with Isak as a goal scorer for Sweden and also in every club competition that they have both participated in. He will do the same in the Premier League as well.

 

[Mamoon]

You're going off on a tangent again.

You suggested Isak has no ambition while Saliba does. The point again is...Isak may see staying at Newcastle gives him more of a chance to win the PL or CL than if Saliba does at Arsenal. Poor Saliba has won nothing , his team bottled it year after year in all competitions! Saliba will be gone to Spain if you win nothing, this will confirm his ambitions.

Isak is delusional beyond belief if he thinks he has a chance of winning the league with Newcastle. They are not even interested in competing at this point. There is no zero pressure on Howe to deliver the premier league and neither will he be judged by it come the end of the season.

If this is the type of club Isak wants to spend his prime years in, so be it. That is his decision. If he lacks ambition, that is his problem.

 

[Geordie Ahmed]

Isak is delusional beyond belief if he thinks he has a chance of winning the league with Newcastle. They are not even interested in competing at this point. There is no zero pressure on Howe to deliver the premier league and neither will he be judged by it come the end of the season.

If this is the type of club Isak wants to spend his prime years in, so be it. That is his decision. If he lacks ambition, that is his problem.

What pressure is there on Arteta to win the Premier League? He's failed to win anything in 5 years and his job is safe

I can guarantee if he fails to win the PL/CL this season you will still be defending him and will shift the blame elsewhere

 

[Mamoon]

What pressure is there on Arteta to win the Premier League? He's failed to win anything in 5 years and his job is safe

I can guarantee if he fails to win the PL/CL this season you will still be defending him and will shift the blame elsewhere

You are once again drawing false comparisons.

If Arteta fails to win the league this season, a lot of Arsenal fans will demand that he is sacked.

If Howe fails to win the league, almost no Newcastle fan would demand that he is sacked.

A disappointing season for Arsenal (finishing 2nd) would be a successful season for Newcastle.

 

[Geordie Ahmed]

You are once again drawing false comparisons.

If Arteta fails to win the league this season, a lot of Arsenal fans will demand that he is sacked.

If Howe fails to win the league, almost no Newcastle fan would demand that he is sacked.

A disappointing season for Arsenal (finishing 2nd) would be a successful season for Newcastle.

Would you demand that he is sacked?

 

[KingKhanWC]

Isak is delusional beyond belief if he thinks he has a chance of winning the league with Newcastle. They are not even interested in competing at this point. There is no zero pressure on Howe to deliver the premier league and neither will he be judged by it come the end of the season.

If this is the type of club Isak wants to spend his prime years in, so be it. That is his decision. If he lacks ambition, that is his problem.

Newcastle aren’t far off Arsenal going by last season, they beat you more than once winning silverware. Isak if given the choice may well believe he’d have more chance with Newcastle than Arsenal . He also may feel Howe is a superior manager than Arteta . Both are strong arguments

 

[KingKhanWC]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1946857051520376856

A good signing , young with quality .

 

[Mamoon]

Newcastle aren’t far off Arsenal going by last season, they beat you more than once winning silverware. Isak if given the choice may well believe he’d have more chance with Newcastle than Arsenal . He also may feel Howe is a superior manager than Arteta . Both are strong arguments

Arsenal are signing a far better goalscorer for less than half the price. They are not interested in Isak.

Liverpool have folded very quickly in the Isak deal.

 

[Geordie Ahmed]

Arsenal are signing a far better goalscorer for less than half the price. They are not interested in Isak.

Liverpool have folded very quickly in the Isak deal.

If the price was the same and both players wanted to join who do you think Arsenal sign?

 

[Mamoon]

If the price was the same and both players wanted to join who do you think Arsenal sign?

Any club would be foolish to go for Isak over Gyokeres considering that Gyokeres blows him out of the water as a goal scorer in every competition that they have played together in, including for Sweden. Same will be the case in the PL as well.

Let’s not forget the injury concerns either. Gyokeres has only missed 5 matches due to injury in his entire career. Isak misses more than 5 matches almost every season.

This Premier League proven stuff means nothing. Isak was also not Premier League proven at one point, and same goes for every great Premier League striker that came from abroad.

Similar concerns were raised about Haaland when he was scoring for fun for RB Salzburg in Austria.

It is very difficult for some people to accept that Gyokeres is better than Isak but they will have no choice after this season. I hope they accept it and don’t make excuses.

 

[mazkhan]

Isak is priced way too much but he has one thing going that he is proven player in Premier league.

Wirtz is also insane amount of money

Ekitike is a ridicolous price imagine he ended up being another nunez

 

[Geordie Ahmed]

Any club would be foolish to go for Isak over Gyokeres considering that Gyokeres blows him out of the water as a goal scorer in every competition that they have played together in, including for Sweden. Same will be the case in the PL as well.

Let’s not forget the injury concerns either. Gyokeres has only missed 5 matches due to injury in his entire career. Isak misses more than 5 matches almost every season.

This Premier League proven stuff means nothing. Isak was also not Premier League proven at one point, and same goes for every great Premier League striker that came from abroad.

Similar concerns were raised about Haaland when he was scoring for fun for RB Salzburg in Austria.

It is very difficult for some people to accept that Gyokeres is better than Isak but they will have no choice after this season. I hope they accept it and don’t make excuses.

I don't think you actually believe all that you have typed but I understand how stubbornness works

 

[Mamoon]

I don't think you actually believe all that you have typed but I understand how stubbornness works

I don’t have a hard time believing that Gyokeres is much better than Isak when I compare their scoring records. It’s not that age factor is in play here, they are almost the same age.

As a goal scorer, Gyokeres is in the same category as Haaland, capable of hitting ridiculous numbers like 50+ goals per season. Isak is not in that league. He is a 25-30 goals per season striker.

Not in a million years will Isak scores 97 goals in two seasons playing for Sporting Lisbon.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Arsenal are signing a far better goalscorer for less than half the price. They are not interested in Isak.

Liverpool have folded very quickly in the Isak deal

You can’t force a club to sell , besides Liverpool have enough goals within the squad , scored the most goals last season. Liverpool also never had any interest in gyokeres . Arsenal believe they have filled the final pieces of the puzzle . It’s time to deliver the biggest prize of the English league or it’s a failure for the striker and manager

 

[Geordie Ahmed]

Isak not travelling to Asia tour due to a "thigh injury"

He's either asked for a massive wage increase or said he wants away, I thought we'd have this situation in 12 months time rather than now

But as I've said previously players hold almost all of the power and I can't see Isak being with us come 1st September

My preference would be to sell him abroad, it's one thing to lose your best player but to lose him to a side in the same league is even more difficult to take. However if he insists he only wants Liverpool then that is what will happen.

 

[Mamoon]

Isak not travelling to Asia tour due to a "thigh injury"

He's either asked for a massive wage increase or said he wants away, I thought we'd have this situation in 12 months time rather than now

But as I've said previously players hold almost all of the power and I can't see Isak being with us come 1st September

My preference would be to sell him abroad, it's one thing to lose your best player but to lose him to a side in the same league is even more difficult to take. However if he insists he only wants Liverpool then that is what will happen.

No player would want to stay at Newcastle when they have offers from bigger clubs. If they do, it is a clear sign of lack of ambition because Newcastle is not fighting for anything important at this stage.

They have stalled in the last two years. They should have been ready to fight for the Premier League in 2026.

 

[Geordie Ahmed]

No player would want to stay at Newcastle when they have offers from bigger clubs. If they do, it is a clear sign of lack of ambition because Newcastle is not fighting for anything important at this stage.

They have stalled in the last two years. They should have been ready to fight for the Premier League in 2026.

You are beyond boring with this

All I ask is for consistency but you don't show that and I'm not sure you will

Let's give it a try though, if Arteta fails to win PL/CL this season, should he be sacked?

 

[Boyka]

If Liverpool sign Isak, it’s over for the rest of us.

 

[Mamoon]

Does John Bin Henry have the funds to sign Isak after massively overpaying for Ekitike?

It seems like Liverpool jumped the gun and folded very quickly when Newcastle said Isak isn’t for sale. They should have tapped up the player.

They probably regret signing Ekitike now.

 

[Boyka]

Does John Bin Henry have the funds to sign Isak after massively overpaying for Ekitike?

It seems like Liverpool jumped the gun and folded very quickly when Newcastle said Isak isn’t for sale. They should have tapped up the player.

They probably regret signing Ekitike now.

They haven’t spent for a few years now. Their recent success has an impact, I think they are okay to spend more.

 

[Mamoon]

You are beyond boring with this

All I ask is for consistency but you don't show that and I'm not sure you will

Let's give it a try though, if Arteta fails to win PL/CL this season, should he be sacked?

There are no parallels between Isak wanting to stay at Newcastle and an Arsenal player wanting to stay at Arsenal, so I am not sure what consistency you are looking for.

If Arteta doesn't win the PL or CL this season, his position should be reviewed. However, sacking a manager isn't always the right thing to do. You have to look at the circumstances and the reasons why the team fell short. For example, God forbid, Gyokeres breaks his leg in February and Arsenal lose the league by 2 points. Would you sack Arteta for this?

 

[Geordie Ahmed]

There are no parallels between Isak wanting to stay at Newcastle and an Arsenal player wanting to stay at Arsenal, so I am not sure what consistency you are looking for.

If Arteta doesn't win the PL or CL this season, his position should be reviewed. However, sacking a manager isn't always the right thing to do. You have to look at the circumstances and the reasons why the team fell short. For example, God forbid, Gyokeres breaks his leg in February and Arsenal lose the league by 2 points. Would you sack Arteta for this?

I'd have sacked him the moment he was prancing around with a light bulb and playing YNWA through speakers at the training ground

 

[mazkhan]

Isak will fit in because we need to get rid off nunez and diaz

And salah needs replacing in a few years

So its good business

Just need guehi and get rid of konate

No point keeping players that dont want to be there diaz and konate

 

[Markhor]

@Geordie Ahmed You'll know the full story better than me but it sounds as if Isak was promised a new contract by Staveley and Mitchell. Both have left, but Isak is intimating that promise was broken.

I see it from both sides. Isak is one of the leading PL strikers with a valuation of well above £100m, and feels that's not being reflected in his paypacket. However Newcastle haven't quite grown their revenues to support a massive wage increase and the knock-on effect it'd have on the rest of the squad. Plus not sure how many clubs would open contract negotiations with 3 years left on a deal.

What adds to the uncertainty is Newcastle's turmoil behind the scenes. Eddie Howe doubling up as a sporting director with his nephew helping out (rather PCBesque arrangement) is hardly ideal ?! Finding a replacement for Isak isn't a given either having missed out on several targets. I can't understand how Mbuemo doesn't choose Newcastle over the basket case that's Man Utd, given you've just won some silverware and guaranteed CL football.

Personally I think it's unlikely Isak moves to us this summer given what we've already spent (though that'll be offset by lots of outgoings in the coming weeks) and Newcastle not having any replacements lined up. I remember we had a similar situation with Suarez in 2013 where he had 2.5 years left on his deal but wanted out. He huffed and puffed so we agreed for him to leave but only after giving us one last year before a big money move to Barcelona in 2014.

 

[Geordie Ahmed]

@Geordie Ahmed You'll know the full story better than me but it sounds as if Isak was promised a new contract by Staveley and Mitchell. Both have left, but Isak is intimating that promise was broken.

I see it from both sides. Isak is one of the leading PL strikers with a valuation of well above £100m, and feels that's not being reflected in his paypacket. However Newcastle haven't quite grown their revenues to support a massive wage increase and the knock-on effect it'd have on the rest of the squad. Plus not sure how many clubs would open contract negotiations with 3 years left on a deal.

What adds to the uncertainty is Newcastle's turmoil behind the scenes. Eddie Howe doubling up as a sporting director with his nephew helping out (rather PCBesque arrangement) is hardly ideal ?! Finding a replacement for Isak isn't a given either having missed out on several targets. I can't understand how Mbuemo doesn't choose Newcastle over the basket case that's Man Utd, given you've just won some silverware and guaranteed CL football.

Personally I think it's unlikely Isak moves to us this summer given what we've already spent (though that'll be offset by lots of outgoings in the coming weeks) and Newcastle not having any replacements lined up. I remember we had a similar situation with Suarez in 2013 where he had 2.5 years left on his deal but wanted out. He huffed and puffed so we agreed for him to leave but only after giving us one last year before a big money move to Barcelona in 2014.

Staveley would have given him the contract, around March last year she and her husband told Isak in the summer his contract would be looked at, they unfortunately left and Paul Mitchell came in as sporting director

However he reportedly told Isak and his agent that with 4 years left on his contract there's no need for the club to look at it, which imo was foolish because in the 2 seasons he showed enough to warrant an improved contract, much like Bruno did, Joelinton too

I think the club absolutely would offer him an improved contract now however our highest paid player is Bruno on about £180k per week, we'd not go much beyond that for Isak, though based on his level he clearly can argue for a much higher salary, when he sees what the likes of Havertz, Rashford etc are making each week

Also, whilst we have made good progress we aren't in a position to win the league, whereas he can start for pretty much any side in the world so I can understand he doesn't want to wait any longer when he'd almost certainly win a league with Liverpool

With Mbeumo it comes down to wages, Man U could offer more than us and the moment he knew that we were out of the running

If you asked me a few weeks ago I would have said it's very unlikely Isak leaves this summer and it will be more likely next summer when he has 2 years remaining but with him having 3 years left we are in a strong position to stand firm, whether that is by insisting he's not for a sale or trying to push for a deal with a club abroad because losing him to another Premier League side albeit a bigger and better one would sting more

It would be interesting if we maintain a not for sale stance how he reacts, would it be full toys thrown out or does he get over it and get back to doing what he does best?

Either way I would want a swift conclusion because worse than losing him would be it dragging on until the end of the window

 

[KingKhanWC]

Does John Bin Henry have the funds to sign Isak after massively overpaying for Ekitike?

It seems like Liverpool jumped the gun and folded very quickly when Newcastle said Isak isn’t for sale. They should have tapped up the player.

They probably regret signing Ekitike now.

Liverpool have near £200m to spend without selling. If Isak is available he will be at Anfield even with Ekitike. This club has secured two all time PL legends for another two years, in this time we want to win another big one again or multiple trophies with a bit of luck . Arsenal are happy to finish 2nd , Liverpool want trophies

 

[KingKhanWC]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1948639358581379227

 

[Mamoon]

Newcastle are smoking some good stuff. They are asking £150m for someone who has never been good enough to score more than 27 goals across competitions in a single season and is also injury prone.

 

[Mamoon]

Liverpool have near £200m to spend without selling. If Isak is available he will be at Anfield even with Ekitike. This club has secured two all time PL legends for another two years, in this time we want to win another big one again or multiple trophies with a bit of luck . Arsenal are happy to finish 2nd , Liverpool want trophies

You don’t need to worry about Arsenal, who have signed the deadliest finisher on the planet who will score more goals than Isak and Ekitike put together just like he did last season as well.

As far as Liverpool is concerned, the fans won’t admit it but they have fumbled big time. They folded very quickly when Newcastle said Isak wasn’t for sale and rushed the signing of Ekitike.

Had they known that Isak would hand in a transfer request only few days later Newcastle said he wasn’t for sale, they wouldn’t have signed Ekitike.

Liverpool are overdoing it now. They cannot fit Isak, Ekitike, Salah and Wirtz in the same team without disrupting the team. They are making too many changes and throwing money around like a strippers club and it will be very funny if it doesn’t work out.

They are trying to fix what’s not broke and create solutions to problems that don’t exist.

 

[IronShield]

Newcastle are smoking some good stuff. They are asking £150m for someone who has never been good enough to score more than 27 goals across competitions in a single season and is also injury prone.

They are pricing him for a Saudi club.

 

[Mamoon]

They are pricing him for a Saudi club.

I think so too. Isak might consider that option as well. Go to Saudi for one season for a big paycheck and get a big move next summer.

 

[IronShield]

I think so too. Isak might consider that option as well. Go to Saudi for one season for a big paycheck and get a big move next summer.

Have to say Newcastle seems to have lost the plot recently. They could have sold Isak to Liverpool for £130m and had a young up and coming replacement in Ekitike for £70m. Now even if they sell him for £130-150m, replacing him will be an issue for them.

I am surprised no one has tried to prize away the midfield trio, possibly one of the best midfields in the PL.

 

[Geordie Ahmed]

Have to say Newcastle seems to have lost the plot recently. They could have sold Isak to Liverpool for £130m and had a young up and coming replacement in Ekitike for £70m. Now even if they sell him for £130-150m, replacing him will be an issue for them.

I am surprised no one has tried to prize away the midfield trio, possibly one of the best midfields in the PL.

Not really, we could have sold Isak and Liverpool would have gotten Ekitike anyways, plus do you think Frankfurt accept £70m knowing we have £130m burning a hole in our pockets?

 

[mazkhan]

I wouldn't even buy isak

Sell nunez diaz and konate no point players who dont want to be there

Sell elliot and cash in on something

And then go and buy Gordon, guehi, mateta

I think mateta would be a beast for liverpool up front

 

[IronShield]

Not really, we could have sold Isak and Liverpool would have gotten Ekitike anyways, plus do you think Frankfurt accept £70m knowing we have £130m burning a hole in our pockets?

Frankfurt knew Liverpool were prepared to pay £120-130m for Isak, they sold him for around £70m to Liverpool. Newcastle will still be in same position with £120-£130m in the pocket for Isak, just Ekitike no longer available.

 

[KingKhanWC]

You don’t need to worry about Arsenal, who have signed the deadliest finisher on the planet who will score more goals than Isak and Ekitike put together just like he did last season as well.

As far as Liverpool is concerned, the fans won’t admit it but they have fumbled big time. They folded very quickly when Newcastle said Isak wasn’t for sale and rushed the signing of Ekitike.

Had they known that Isak would hand in a transfer request only few days later Newcastle said he wasn’t for sale, they wouldn’t have signed Ekitike.

Liverpool are overdoing it now. They cannot fit Isak, Ekitike, Salah and Wirtz in the same team without disrupting the team. They are making too many changes and throwing money around like a strippers club and it will be very funny if it doesn’t work out.

They are trying to fix what’s not broke and create solutions to problems that don’t exist.

There is nowt to worry about. , fantastic signings adding to a championship squad. According to Arteta 9 teams will challenge for the title , if it is this competitive you’ll need a strong squad . A team can’t cry over injuries as Arsenal did , a smart club knows the demands in the English roster . When you’re champions you can attract the best esp if you have money . Liverpool has multiple targets going back months , they will test the waters to see if a signing is possible in all of their potentials .

If we wanted Gyokeres we would have had him .

 

[Mamoon]

There is nowt to worry about. , fantastic signings adding to a championship squad. According to Arteta 9 teams will challenge for the title , if it is this competitive you’ll need a strong squad . A team can’t cry over injuries as Arsenal did , a smart club knows the demands in the English roster . When you’re champions you can attract the best esp if you have money . Liverpool has multiple targets going back months , they will test the waters to see if a signing is possible in all of their potentials .

If we wanted Gyokeres we would have had him .

Liverpool are overdoing it and 12 months from now, you would regret not going for Gyokeres after what he does at Arsenal. Remember, not every striker playing in Portugal is a donkey, only a certain number 9 for Liverpool is

Both Liverpool and Newcastle have fumbled big time here @Geordie Ahmed

Newcastle had this false sense of security about their “project” and wrongly thought that its best players are invested in the idea that they might challenge for the league and the UCL in a few seasons.

They should have anticipated that Isak will want a move this summer because he deserves to play for a club that is ready to compete today, which Newcastle is not.

Selling Isak for good bucks and reinvesting the money to strengthen the squad overall should have been their priority this summer. Had they done that, they could have signed Ekitike or Sesko or anyone else by now.

Liverpool fumbled by folding very easily when Newcastle said no couple of weeks back. They immediately backed off and went after Ekitike whom they wouldn’t have signed had they knew that Isak will hand in a transfer request.

As a neutral in this saga, I am really enjoying the circus and poor planning done by both clubs.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Liverpool are overdoing it and 12 months from now, you would regret not going for Gyokeres after what he does at Arsenal. Remember, not every striker playing in Portugal is a donkey, only a certain number 9 for Liverpool is

Both Liverpool and Newcastle have fumbled big time here @Geordie Ahmed

Newcastle had this false sense of security about their “project” and wrongly thought that its best players are invested in the idea that they might challenge for the league and the UCL in a few seasons.

They should have anticipated that Isak will want a move this summer because he deserves to play for a club that is ready to compete today, which Newcastle is not.

Selling Isak for good bucks and reinvesting the money to strengthen the squad overall should have been their priority this summer. Had they done that, they could have signed Ekitike or Sesko or anyone else by now.

Liverpool fumbled by folding very easily when Newcastle said no couple of weeks back. They immediately backed off and went after Ekitike whom they wouldn’t have signed had they knew that Isak will hand in a transfer request.

As a neutral in this saga, I am really enjoying the circus and poor planning done by both clubs.

It’s football not nuclear physics. Liverpool are the champions, we are making a great squad into an elite , top of the pyramid squad . Isak is superior to a Portuguese league striker. If we get him , we will want more world class players. There is no saga for a title holders , it’s only a drama for contenders , you need anything to help the worry of 6 years and nowt

 

[Mamoon]

It’s football not nuclear physics. Liverpool are the champions, we are making a great squad into an elite , top of the pyramid squad . Isak is superior to a Portuguese league striker. If we get him , we will want more world class players. There is no saga for a title holders , it’s only a drama for contenders , you need anything to help the worry of 6 years and nowt

Isak is not superior to Gyokeres. That is is just your delusion and ignorance.

Gyokeres is a far better goalscorer and this is why he comfortably outperformed Isak while playing alongside him for Sweden and this is why outperforms him in every club competition they have played together. Same will be the case in the Premier League too. Gyokeres has destroyed Man City in the UCL too.

Isak has never been capable of scoring more than 27 goals across competition in a season. Gyokeres gets there around Jan/Feb.

Not in a million years does Isak score 97 goals and make 28 assists across two seasons for Sporting Lisbon. He is simply not in the same league as a striker. There are only 2-3 strikers in the world who are capable of getting 50+ goals in a season in any European league. Gyokeres is one of them, Isak is not.

Gyokeres will come to the Premier League from the Portugese League and dominate, just like a certain Liverpool great Suarez came from the Dutch League and a certain Haaland made his mark in Austrian League and Tevez came from the Argentinian league. I can go on and on.

In fact, I am very happy that people are underestimating Gyokeres because he comes from the Portugese league. It only means that when he dominates the Premier League and wins the golden boot, people like you will have to eat your words and it will be very satisfying.

 

[Kroll]

Isak is not superior to Gyokeres. That is is just your delusion and ignorance.

Gettin title in the bag vibes here.

 

[Mamoon]

Gettin title in the bag vibes here.

I like this. I want this.

Let the rival fans underestimate Gyokeres because when he dominates the PL, the humbling will be very sweet.

He wipes the floor with Isak as a goal scorer for Sweden while playing together in the same team and he will do the same in the PL.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Isak is not superior to Gyokeres. That is is just your delusion and ignorance.

Gyokeres is a far better goalscorer and this is why he comfortably outperformed Isak while playing alongside him for Sweden and this is why outperforms him in every club competition they have played together. Same will be the case in the Premier League too. Gyokeres has destroyed Man City in the UCL too.

Isak has never been capable of scoring more than 27 goals across competition in a season. Gyokeres gets there around Jan/Feb.

Not in a million years does Isak score 97 goals and make 28 assists across two seasons for Sporting Lisbon. He is simply not in the same league as a striker. There are only 2-3 strikers in the world who are capable of getting 50+ goals in a season in any European league. Gyokeres is one of them, Isak is not.

Gyokeres will come to the Premier League from the Portugese League and dominate, just like a certain Liverpool great Suarez came from the Dutch League and a certain Haaland made his mark in Austrian League and Tevez came from the Argentinian league. I can go on and on.

In fact, I am very happy that people are underestimating Gyokeres because he comes from the Portugese league. It only means that when he dominates the Premier League and wins the golden boot, people like you will have to eat your words and it will be very satisfying.

Gyokeres is well known in England. He lived and played here for years but was never considered good enough to play the top levels in the premiership. He has improved vastly but ain’t the R9 you are alluding to . If he get 20 PL goals esp scoring against the top teams it’s a successful season for him .

 

[Mamoon]

Gyokeres is well known in England. He lived and played here for years but was never considered good enough to play the top levels in the premiership. He has improved vastly but ain’t the R9 you are alluding to . If he get 20 PL goals esp scoring against the top teams it’s a successful season for him .

Just like Salah and De Bruyne were never considered good enough at Chelsea and no other English club was interested in them before they left for other countries, improved and made a name for themselves and came back and dominated English football. Gyokeres will do the same. He will win the golden boot this season.

As I said above, I am very happy that rival fans are underestimating him. It will make the humbling sweeter.

 

[aboveandbeyond]

Gyokeres is well known in England. He lived and played here for years but was never considered good enough to play the top levels in the premiership. He has improved vastly but ain’t the R9 you are alluding to . If he get 20 PL goals esp scoring against the top teams it’s a successful season for him .

Agree. He may well turn out to be a decent player. Funny thing is, we have clowns on here labeling Haaland below championship level knowing how strict Pep is on his Philosophy. The same Haaland who under different tactics at Dortmund was a complete all-round package.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Just like Salah and De Bruyne were never considered good enough at Chelsea and no other English club was interested in them before they left for other countries, improved and made a name for themselves and came back and dominated English football. Gyokeres will do the same. He will win the golden boot this season.

As I said above, I am very happy that rival fans are underestimating him. It will make the humbling sweeter.

KDB and Salah were at huge clubs , they decided to leave , no big club in pl wanted gyokeres . Almost all inc Arsenal fans see Isak as superior in all areas, better In the air , quicker , stronger . He should score at Arsenal but will need good supply , if odegaard remains a farm animal , he will struggle to get 20 PL goals

 

[Kroll]

I like this. I want this.

Let the rival fans underestimate Gyokeres because when he dominates the PL, the humbling will be very sweet.

He wipes the floor with Isak as a goal scorer for Sweden while playing together in the same team and he will do the same in the PL.

Gyko may have been hamming it up in a farmers league like the Primeira Liga but PL is different level of beast.

Isak on the other hand is proven in the PL. Let the tall claims and buffoonery commence.

 

[Geordie Ahmed]

Gyokeres is good and I think he will do well in the Premier League

It's just absurd to suggest he's better than Isak, anyone with eyes and even a basic understanding of football knows Isak is better

 

[Mamoon]

KDB and Salah were at huge clubs , they decided to leave , no big club in pl wanted gyokeres . Almost all inc Arsenal fans see Isak as superior in all areas, better In the air , quicker , stronger . He should score at Arsenal but will need good supply , if odegaard remains a farm animal , he will struggle to get 20 PL goals

Gyko may have been hamming it up in a farmers league like the Primeira Liga but PL is different level of beast.

Isak on the other hand is proven in the PL. Let the tall claims and buffoonery commence.

It’s funny how Isak is “better in all areas” but still cannot get anywhere near Gyokeres in terms of goals.

They both play for the same national team together and Gyokeres has to score just 1 goal in the next 26 matches to match Isak’s tally for Sweden.

Gyokeres will breeze past 20 goals in the PL. A 33 year old Chris Wood playing for Nottingham Forest scored 20 in the PL last season.

As far as the farmer league is concerned, I didn’t know Man City was a farmer league team, against whom he scored a UCL hat-trick

Same nonsense was said about Haaland too when he emerged in Austria, and I’m sure ignorant people like you lot would have dismissed Suarez as well when he was killing it for Ajax in the Netherlands.

Just because the overrated Klopp gave you a parting gift in the shape of the retarded Darwin Nunez doesn’t mean every Portuguese league striker is bad.

Gyokeres is the deadliest striker in Europe and he will continue his scoring streak in the PL. I back him to win the golden boot this season or easily get past 25 league goals if not 30 provided he stays fit, which he usually does unlike the walking injury Isak.

He has only missed 5 games due to injury in his career. Isak misses like 10 games every season.

This “Premier league proven” is the biggest load of bull. Anyone who uses this phrase has 0 ball knowledge. It’s like a litmus test. When you’re a ball you ball it everywhere.

Every great foreign striker who has dominated the PL was once not PL proven, and all of them had their detractors who harbored such foolish opinions.

I saw similar things about Isak when he came to the PL from La Liga having scored just 10 goals in his last season in Spain in 33 appearances.

Isak has 54 goals in the Premier League in 86 appearances. Thats nothing. Gyokeres matches this in at least 20 less matches if not less, just like he has matched Isak’s tally for Sweden in 26 less matches.

However, as I said, I love this. I love the fact that rivals fans are underestimating Gyokeres because he comes from Portugal because when he delivers a shut up call to you lot, it will feel extremely satisfying.

 

[Mamoon]

Gyokeres is good and I think he will do well in the Premier League

It's just absurd to suggest he's better than Isak, anyone with eyes and even a basic understanding of football knows Isak is better

I know it is difficult for you to accept at this stage, just like it was difficult for you to accept few weeks back that if Isak has any ambition, he wouldn’t want to stay at Newcastle this summer.

However, just like that truth unfolded in front of our eyes in a matter of two weeks, the myth that Isak is better than Gyokeres will also be put to bed this season.

Isak is nowhere near him as a goal scorer. There is a reason why he has never scored more than 27 goals across competitions in a single season.

He is a 25-30 goals per season striker, and he is a tremendous player, but Gyokeres is one of the 2-3 strikers in the world who are capable of hitting 50+.

Not in a million years would Isak have scored 97 goals in two seasons for Sporting, but Gyokeres easily does at Newcastle what Isak has done.

 

[Geordie Ahmed]

I know it is difficult for you to accept at this stage, just like it was difficult for you to accept few weeks back that if Isak has any ambition, he wouldn’t want to stay at Newcastle this summer.

However, just like that truth unfolded in front of our eyes in a matter of two weeks, the myth that Isak is better than Gyokeres will also be put to bed this season.

Isak is nowhere near him as a goal scorer. There is a reason why he has never scored more than 27 goals across competitions in a single season.

He is a 25-30 goals per season striker, and he is a tremendous player, but Gyokeres is one of the 2-3 strikers in the world who are capable of hitting 50+.

Not in a million years would Isak have scored 97 goals in two seasons for Sporting, but Gyokeres easily does at Newcastle what Isak has done.

You are just talking utter nonsense here, no truth has unfolded

At no stage did I say Isak will not be leaving nor that he will ask for that, I simply challenged the narrative that if he stayed it means he has no ambition

As for the rest, time will tell who is the better goalscorer but that's not even the contention, Isak is better overall

Gyokeres can outscore him but it won't change that reality

Just like Chris Wood scoring more than Watkins doesn't mean Chris Wood is better than him

 

[Mamoon]

You are just talking utter nonsense here, no truth has unfolded

At no stage did I say Isak will not be leaving nor that he will ask for that, I simply challenged the narrative that if he stayed it means he has no ambition

As for the rest, time will tell who is the better goalscorer but that's not even the contention, Isak is better overall

Gyokeres can outscore him but it won't change that reality

Just like Chris Wood scoring more than Watkins doesn't mean Chris Wood is better than him

The gap between the two in other aspects of football isn’t as big as it is when it comes to goals output.

Gyokeres literally scores twice as many goals as Isak does. When there is such a huge disparity other aspects don’t matter.

It’s like saying you’d have Bobby Firmino over Haaland because Firmino’s a better all-round footballer.

Although it’s actually funny because Gyokeres not only scores way more than Isak, he also provides more assists.

 

[Geordie Ahmed]

The gap between the two in other aspects of football isn’t as big as it is when it comes to goals output.

Gyokeres literally scores twice as many goals as Isak does. When there is such a huge disparity other aspects don’t matter.

It’s like saying you’d have Bobby Firmino over Haaland because Firmino’s a better all-round footballer.

Although it’s actually funny because Gyokeres not only scores way more than Isak, he also provides more assists.

So Gyokeres is going to score twice as many this upcoming season than Isak?

 

[Mamoon]

So Gyokeres is going to score twice as many this upcoming season than Isak?

Across competitions, I expected Gyokeres to break the 40 goals barrier just like has for the past two seasons. Along with Haaland, Kane and Mbappe, he is the only striker in the world right now who is capable of hitting those numbers.

On the other hand, I expect Isak to end up with 25-30 across competitions, which is his limit. There is a reason why he has never score more than 27 goals in a single season across competitions.

It might get even harder for him after he joins Liverpool because he will have to share goals with Salah, and then there is his dodgy injury record too.

In the PL alone, Isak should replicate his tally from last season and get around 20-25 goals, while Gyokeres should break the 30 goals barrier.

Overall, he should have zero problems in bettering Isak’s PL record until this point - 56 goals in 84 matches.

 

[mazkhan]

40 goals barrier.

Nobody has done that just If you count the premier league

Not even likes of salah ian rush, ian wright, Thierry henry, alan shearer, fowler, owen etc

Highest pl season goals record is haaland with 36

 

[mazkhan]

Isak is premier league proven at a better and bigger club his potential is only going to increase .

 

[Kroll]

It’s funny how Isak is “better in all areas” but still cannot get anywhere near Gyokeres in terms of goals.

They both play for the same national team together and Gyokeres has to score just 1 goal in the next 26 matches to match Isak’s tally for Sweden.

Gyokeres will breeze past 20 goals in the PL. A 33 year old Chris Wood playing for Nottingham Forest scored 20 in the PL last season.

As far as the farmer league is concerned, I didn’t know Man City was a farmer league team, against whom he scored a UCL hat-trick

Same nonsense was said about Haaland too when he emerged in Austria, and I’m sure ignorant people like you lot would have dismissed Suarez as well when he was killing it for Ajax in the Netherlands.

Just because the overrated Klopp gave you a parting gift in the shape of the retarded Darwin Nunez doesn’t mean every Portuguese league striker is bad.

Gyokeres is the deadliest striker in Europe and he will continue his scoring streak in the PL. I back him to win the golden boot this season or easily get past 25 league goals if not 30 provided he stays fit, which he usually does unlike the walking injury Isak.

He has only missed 5 games due to injury in his career. Isak misses like 10 games every season.

This “Premier league proven” is the biggest load of bull. Anyone who uses this phrase has 0 ball knowledge. It’s like a litmus test. When you’re a ball you ball it everywhere.

Every great foreign striker who has dominated the PL was once not PL proven, and all of them had their detractors who harbored such foolish opinions.

I saw similar things about Isak when he came to the PL from La Liga having scored just 10 goals in his last season in Spain in 33 appearances.

Isak has 54 goals in the Premier League in 86 appearances. Thats nothing. Gyokeres matches this in at least 20 less matches if not less, just like he has matched Isak’s tally for Sweden in 26 less matches.

However, as I said, I love this. I love the fact that rivals fans are underestimating Gyokeres because he comes from Portugal because when he delivers a shut up call to you lot, it will feel extremely satisfying.

Who cares? At least I can sit here and revel in my glory of being Champions. Remind me again how many trophies you won last year and PL titles since 2003? Oh sorry to hear that, even Spurs won a trophy hahaha.

 

[KingKhanWC]

It’s funny how Isak is “better in all areas” but still cannot get anywhere near Gyokeres in terms of goals.

They both play for the same national team together and Gyokeres has to score just 1 goal in the next 26 matches to match Isak’s tally for Sweden.

Gyokeres will breeze past 20 goals in the PL. A 33 year old Chris Wood playing for Nottingham Forest scored 20 in the PL last season.

As far as the farmer league is concerned, I didn’t know Man City was a farmer league team, against whom he scored a UCL hat-trick

Same nonsense was said about Haaland too when he emerged in Austria, and I’m sure ignorant people like you lot would have dismissed Suarez as well when he was killing it for Ajax in the Netherlands.

Just because the overrated Klopp gave you a parting gift in the shape of the retarded Darwin Nunez doesn’t mean every Portuguese league striker is bad.

Gyokeres is the deadliest striker in Europe and he will continue his scoring streak in the PL. I back him to win the golden boot this season or easily get past 25 league goals if not 30 provided he stays fit, which he usually does unlike the walking injury Isak.

He has only missed 5 games due to injury in his career. Isak misses like 10 games every season.

This “Premier league proven” is the biggest load of bull. Anyone who uses this phrase has 0 ball knowledge. It’s like a litmus test. When you’re a ball you ball it everywhere.

Every great foreign striker who has dominated the PL was once not PL proven, and all of them had their detractors who harbored such foolish opinions.

I saw similar things about Isak when he came to the PL from La Liga having scored just 10 goals in his last season in Spain in 33 appearances.

Isak has 54 goals in the Premier League in 86 appearances. Thats nothing. Gyokeres matches this in at least 20 less matches if not less, just like he has matched Isak’s tally for Sweden in 26 less matches.

However, as I said, I love this. I love the fact that rivals fans are underestimating Gyokeres because he comes from Portugal because when he delivers a shut up call to you lot, it will feel extremely satisfying.

I think you’re overestimating him but let’s see if he scores 30 by Xmas and wins the golden boot. Next month he will be at Anfield in VVDs pocket

 

[aboveandbeyond]

He's a decent player, nothing more, nothing less.

But to label him better than isak already, and Put him on a Par with Haaland and Mbappe is utter xxite.

 

[topspin]

Gyokeres is good and I think he will do well in the Premier League

It's just absurd to suggest he's better than Isak, anyone with eyes and even a basic understanding of football knows Isak is better

I think Isak is a better all-round player.

They both play for Sweden and Gyokeres is the better goalscorer but that could be because Isak has a more rounded role behind him.

In the PL, we’ll find out soon who’s the superior goal scorer.

The way I see it so far:

Isak > Gyokeres as an all round player

Gyokeres > Isak as a pure goalscorer

Overall: Isak > Gyokeres

 

[Mamoon]

Who cares? At least I can sit here and revel in my glory of being Champions. Remind me again how many trophies you won last year and PL titles since 2003? Oh sorry to hear that, even Spurs won a trophy hahaha.

And Spurs sacked their manager few days after winning the trophy which sums up the value of that trophy.

Congratulations on being the worst champions since Leicester City. Imagine celebrating a title win with 84 points

Liverpool got very lucky because they got the rub of the green when it came to ref decisions and also because Arsenal and City had a blip.

84 points in the league and R16 in the UCL. That’s poor, and they will fail this season in spite of throwing all the money around like a strippers club.

 

[Mamoon]

I think you’re overestimating him but let’s see if he scores 30 by Xmas and wins the golden boot. Next month he will be at Anfield in VVDs pocket

No top forward has ever been found in VVD’s pocket. He doesn’t even attempt to tackle them. His fake aura only works against weak attackers.

This is why he is massively overrated by Liverpool fans and it’s laughable when they claim that he is the GOAT PL defender. He doesn’t hold a candle to Terry, Ferdinand, Adams.

Saliba is already better than him and will be significantly better than him by the time he is VVD’s age.

He is 34 with only 3 proper trophies in his career and Liverpool fans think he is GOAT material

 

[Mamoon]

He's a decent player, nothing more, nothing less.

But to label him better than isak already, and Put him on a Par with Haaland and Mbappe is utter xxite.

It is actually disrespectful to Gyokeres to be compared to someone like Isak who has never broken the 30 goal barrier across competitions in his career, and has the same number of goals for Sweden in 26 more appearances.

Gyokeres will walk past Isak’s PL record of 54 goals in 86 matches even if he plays to 75% of his potential.

 

[Mamoon]

40 goals barrier.

Nobody has done that just If you count the premier league

Not even likes of salah ian rush, ian wright, Thierry henry, alan shearer, fowler, owen etc

Highest pl season goals record is haaland with 36

I said across competitions. Obviously not in PL only. He should score 30-32 in the PL and 10+ in the UCL. He will play very little FA Cup and probably no League Cup matches.

 

[Mamoon]

I think Isak is a better all-round player.

They both play for Sweden and Gyokeres is the better goalscorer but that could be because Isak has a more rounded role behind him.

In the PL, we’ll find out soon who’s the superior goal scorer.

The way I see it so far:

Isak > Gyokeres as an all round player

Gyokeres > Isak as a pure goalscorer

Overall: Isak > Gyokeres

This all-round play myth will be busted as well. It is the only excuse left for those who don’t want to accept that Gyokeres is a far lethal goal scorer than Isak.

Isak’s all-round play is very good even if he is overrated in front of goal, but Gyokeres all-round play is very underrated and a lot of people will be surprised to watch him play.

People are dismissing that aspect of his game because they haven’t watched him play. He is nothing like Haaland apart from having the same killer-instinct in the box. He can actually dribble and pass, and he gets more assists for club and country than Isak does.

Not to mention, he is not weak like Isak, who is always at the risk of getting injured. Gyokeres has only missed 5 games in his career due to injury which is remarkable especially when you consider the fact that he has played a lot of football in lower divisions of English football where players are kicked around for fun.

 

[KingKhanWC]

No top forward has ever been found in VVD’s pocket. He doesn’t even attempt to tackle them. His fake aura only works against weak attackers.

This is why he is massively overrated by Liverpool fans and it’s laughable when they claim that he is the GOAT PL defender. He doesn’t hold a candle to Terry, Ferdinand, Adams.

Saliba is already better than him and will be significantly better than him by the time he is VVD’s age.

He is 34 with only 3 proper trophies in his career and Liverpool fans think he is GOAT material

You’re watching a different sport to others . Lol . Saliba has been avg last season . Gabrielle is playing better . VVD is elite , known since his youth , Gyokeres played for Coventry and sporting , won no major trophies and is a few years from retirement

 

[aboveandbeyond]

It is actually disrespectful to Gyokeres to be compared to someone like Isak who has never broken the 30 goal barrier across competitions in his career, and has the same number of goals for Sweden in 26 more appearances.

Gyokeres will walk past Isak’s PL record of 54 goals in 86 matches even if he plays to 75% of his potential.

This is the Premier League. Not the Sweden National Team. As things stand, Isak way Superior.

 

[Mamoon]

This is the Premier League. Not the Sweden National Team. As things stand, Isak way Superior.

I know it is very difficult for rival fans to accept that Arsenal have signed the deadliest striker in Europe, especially those fans whose club begged him to join but they got rejected 7 times in the same window.

The argument that Gyokeres has only looked good due to Portuguese league defenders would have had some weight if he hadn't scored in the UCL including a hat-trick vs City and wasn't the top scorer in the Nations League. He dominates every competition and therefore the argument that he is decent and best and made to look amazing due to Portuguese league is absolutely rubbish.

Isak is not superior at all. In fact, Isak is not even in the same class. Gyokeres will blow him out of the water in the PL just like he has blown him out of the water for Sweden.

However, as I said, this is exactly what I want. I want rival fans to underestimate him, because it means that the humbling will be way more satisfying.

 

[Mamoon]

You’re watching a different sport to others . Lol . Saliba has been avg last season . Gabrielle is playing better . VVD is elite , known since his youth , Gyokeres played for Coventry and sporting , won no major trophies and is a few years from retirement

Saliba is 10 years younger than him, and has already established himself as one of the best CBs in the world while playing for a top 2 PL team. Van Dijk at Saliba's age was playing for Southampton.

Saliba has a much higher ceiling than Van Dijk. If Saliba stays at Arsenal for the next 6-7 years and resists the temptation to join Real Madrid unlike that clown defender who wore #66 for Liverpool, he can go down at the same level as Adams, Ferdinand and Terry as the greatest CB in PL history. Van Dijk is not at that level.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Saliba is 10 years younger than him, and has already established himself as one of the best CBs in the world while playing for a top 2 PL team. Van Dijk at Saliba's age was playing for Southampton.

Saliba has a much higher ceiling than Van Dijk. If Saliba stays at Arsenal for the next 6-7 years and resists the temptation to join Real Madrid unlike that clown defender who wore #66 for Liverpool, he can go down at the same level as Adams, Ferdinand and Terry as the greatest CB in PL history. Van Dijk is not at that level.

I’d change your crystal ball now . It’s all when /if . VVD has 2 pl and 1 cl . 2nd in ballondor, regarded as pl legend. . Saliba has a lot to achieve , he’s won nothing so far and will likely leave Arsenal if Arteta fails again. Don’t watch 2 min highlights, numerous times Saliba was taken apart by opposition attackers last season . Even most Arsenal see him as 2nd best to the Brazilian you have .