Official Pakistan 2013 General Elections thread

[raamu kaka]

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[AZ]

^^ these are TV ads or Youtube vids?

 

[raamu kaka]

Ataa ULLAH Esaa Khelvi

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[raamu kaka]

^^ these are TV ads or Youtube vids?

ads sir. we get to see 'em every evening from 7-12 on all tv channels

 

[insaftak]

We are missing a trick here... Need to go for attack ads and expose PMLN's pathetic performance... I am sending out an e-mail to asad Umar soon to consider those things for Media Blitz!!

 

[insaftak]

Latest PTI Ad!

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[insaftak]

Somewhere in Punjab... Khan's Army ready for Jihad against Nooras

 

[Anfield]

We are missing a trick here... Need to go for attack ads and expose PMLN's pathetic performance... I am sending out an e-mail to asad Umar soon to consider those things for Media Blitz!!

maybe people need to know how PTI will bring a change and is different from other parties. Too much slandering of PML N might hurt PTI.

 

[insaftak]

^^

Keep the advice coming... I think they need some blows to soften them up and then go for how we can fix this

Attack ads are good to show public their real face.

 

[Anfield]

^^

Keep the advice coming... I think they need some blows to soften them up and then go for how we can fix this

Attack ads are good to show public their real face.

What PTI need to is what Obama did with Mitt Romney. Accused Romney of supporting Bush policies, standing with Bush on every issue for 8 years and now saying Bush is wrong how's that possible? Then Obama gave his solution's to problems while rubbishing Romney's propsed policies. Imran and PTI should do the same. PTI's biggest attack is how PML N while staying in power for 5 years didn't do a single thing, what can do it now? I know Imran has mentioned that many times but PTI need to narrow it down to specific policies and results.. like what they did for education, corruption, power, justice, etc? Just my two cents.

 

[0tt0man]

I'm all for the ads but they must not attack a particular party. Won't look good on national television.

 

[insaftak]

^^

ON loadshedding issue they can kill both PPP and PMLN.

 

[insaftak]

Why Fatima is voting for Imran Khan

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[srh]

Is it true that Election Commission asked State Bank to name all the bank defaulters on its web site and State Bank said "no"?

 

[PakistanPaindabad]

We are missing a trick here... Need to go for attack ads and expose PMLN's pathetic performance... I am sending out an e-mail to asad Umar soon to consider those things for Media Blitz!!

1. Make an ad on the things that PML (N) promised in their 2008 Manifesto..and show it over the background where NS and Zardari are holding hands, and calling each other bara bhai chota bhai

2. Highlight PTI's own manifesto. Especially on jobs, energy and end to corruption.

Also, please answer the rawalpindi question - whats going on there especially NA 56?

 

[spinDoc]

ads sir. we get to see 'em every evening from 7-12 on all tv channels

thats impressive- i was under the impression these were only internet ads.

 

[spinDoc]

"meanwhile some pathans decided to start taking pictures" could've been "some people decided to start taking pictures.

Come on basha its not racist, it was a phatan taking a pic just like a phatan on internet(me)

 

[spinDoc]

We are missing a trick here... Need to go for attack ads and expose PMLN's pathetic performance... I am sending out an e-mail to asad Umar soon to consider those things for Media Blitz!!

An ad on PMLn 2008 manifesto will be grt ,to see what they promised and if they kept there promises.

 

[waqar_ahmad]

Agree with attacking ads. No reason to hold back. PTI must go all out and destroy PMLN and PPP in these ads

 

[waqar_ahmad]

Klasra has been in great form. He was ripping into PPP. Now he is tearing apart PMLN:

 

[spinDoc]

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how do i put the above pic here?

 

[insaftak]

Hajjan's show from NA 56..

PTI leading and we have yet to unleash TRs

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[Anfield]

Nawaz Sharif talking about Bullet trains in Pakistan. *facepalm* wow just wow! Railway is incurring losses of RS2.50 billion ($25 Million) every month and they are talking about bullet trains.

 

[Waseem]

Hajjan's show from NA 56..

PTI leading and we have yet to unleash TRs

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This show was just WOW! Felt Asma was about to faint on few occasions and to be honest even i didn't expect such a response and now i am starting to feel the "Tabdeeli". Posted link of another Aaj tv show in NA56 yesterday where almost 50% people were PTI supporters. Loved the part where husband wasn't sure and when wife said Imran khan, he immediately agreed and the guy who said not only myself but i have convinced my whole neighborhood to vote for Imran.

 

[Waseem]

Klasra has been in great form. He was ripping into PPP. Now he is tearing apart PMLN:

Rauf Klasra is in very fine form these days, he is openly asking people to vote for Imran Khan which is a big change. Just a year ago he said he would vote for PPP because they they support South Punjab province.

 

[Badsha]

Asma was clearly annoyed as hell with the PTI responses!

 

[Waseem]

Watching Talat's show, i can safely say we have no hope in Sindh and it's partly our own fault. Most people aren't happy with PPP but they have no option other than nationalists. When Talat asked them about Imran Khan, their response was "Woh jo cricket khailta hai"? Not many knew about him and all PTI had to do was to visit these areas and give them an option. Still have chance to hit these areas.

 

[amateurdentist]

PTI will win this time InshaAllah
even if we dont win wecan always try next time. only way our people will learn sadly

 

[waqar_ahmad]

Rauf Klasra is in very fine form these days, he is openly asking people to vote for Imran Khan which is a big change. Just a year ago he said he would vote for PPP because they they support South Punjab province.

Yup, that was one of the most annoying comments I ever heard on tv from a reputable journalist, just voting for PPP coz of the seraiki province. I am glad that he has finally realized what's right.

If PTI wins and form the govt, I'm certain Klasra will help provide a lot of evidence of corruption against these crooks

 

[Waseem]

In words of Sheikh Rasheed, Syasi tawaif group called "Like minded" to to move ECP for Nawaz’s disqualification

http://www.pakistantoday.com.pk/201...roup-to-move-ecp-for-nawazs-disqualification/

PML-N chief Nawaz Sharif is set to face a tough legal challenge as some members of the PML-Likeminded Group have planned moving the Election Commission of Pakistan (ECP) to seek the former PM’s disqualification, citing the Articles 62 and 63, Pakistan Today has learnt reliably.

A source in the group said on condition of anonymity that Hamid Nasir Chattha, the chairman of the likeminded group, had directed his legal aides to prepare a petition which would soon be filed against Nawaz for allegedly violating a written agreement duly signed by the leaders of both sides.

"Nawaz had agreed in principle to allocate 11 percent seats to the likeminded group in year 2012 under a seat adjustment formula,” the source said.

Under the agreement, the likeminded group members had to be accommodated for 30 National Assembly seats, but they were only given one seat - to Salim Saifullah Khan from Lakki Marwat and that too a PML-N ticket - another violation of the agreement.

Agreement:

Per the agreement between the two sides, the criteria decided in the agreement between two parties (PML-N and PML-LM says, “Based on the criteria laid down, thirty (11 percent) out of 272 general seats shall be adjusted between PML-N) and PML-LM. The same percentage shall apply for allocation of provincial general seats".

The memorandum of Understanding (MoU) for seats adjustment between two parties was signed on May 12, 2012 by Humayon Akhtar Khan (from PML-LM) and Iqbal Zafar Jhagra (PML-N secretary general).

Newly-formed PML-J chief Iqbal Dar said they were all set to submit petition in the Election Commission before April 17, attaching signed agreement of the PML-LM and PML-N on seat adjustment formula of 11 percent.

"Saifullah has also refused to contest on PML-N ticket so the party has decided to move ECP after being dumped by Sharifs," Dar added.

The agreement was also signed and at a press conference held at Raiwind, both parties had announced the same, the likeminded leader added.

However, he said Nawaz had now refused to implement the agreement.

"So he has proved himself a liar. So he is no more sadiq (truthful) or ameen and is liable to fall victim to article 63," the source said.

The source added that the likeminded group leaders had decided to submit the petition in Election Commission of Pakistan (ECP) so that Nawaz could be declared a liar and ineligible to contest the upcoming polls.

The source said the former MNA and secretary information of likeminded group, Kashmala Tariq, was active in this regard and had been promised a reserved seat for women but was also dumped later on.

After being betrayed and dumped by the PML-N, the likeminded group stands divided. Humayon Akhtar Khan, the secretary general of the group, is still hopeful, while Chattha has revived the PML-Junejo and Aarbab Ghulam Rahim, the group president, has formed Peoples' Muslim League.

Former PML-LM leader Arbab Ghulam Rahim met PML-N leader Nawaz around two weeks ago to sort out seat adjustment formula, but only some of the party members could get seats.

The party reportedly demanded the 11 percent seat adjustment deal with the PML-N that could not materialise and compelled the party members to revive the PML-Junejo as a new political strength.

One of the members of former PML-LM who secured to get seat from the PML-N, Salim Saif Ullah, also shared with this newspaper that PML-N had not fulfilled its promise and gave only a few seats to LM group. - See more at: http://www.pakistantoday.com.pk/201...nawazs-disqualification/#sthash.WLFPE6JO.dpuf

 

[Black Zero]

@^ beggars cannot be choosers

 

[ahmed778]

There should be a poll in this thread.

 

[spinDoc]

There should be a poll in this thread.

no point-most ppers live abroad.

i live aborad but am campaiging continously for PTI ,have convinced most of my faimly and friends back home to vote PTI

PTI will win abroad anyways.

 

[PakistanPaindabad]

PML (N)s campaign song sounds a lot better than PTI's. Also sung by Rahat Fateh Ali Khan.

PML (N)s ads and the campaign song video look very professional at least. PTI's feels like stuff thrown together at the last minute to get it out the door and get it aired.

 

[khanz141]

PML (N)s campaign song sounds a lot better than PTI's. Also sung by Rahat Fateh Ali Khan.

PML (N)s ads and the campaign song video look very professional at least. PTI's feels like stuff thrown together at the last minute to get it out the door and get it aired.

Ummm No... Otherwise PML-N would not be copying off of every PTI campaign

 

[WiiiCKET]

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[PakistanPaindabad]

Ummm No... Otherwise PML-N would not be copying off of every PTI campaign

no doubt that they copy, but they just make it better and less amateurish

 

[spinDoc]

PML (N)s campaign song sounds a lot better than PTI's. Also sung by Rahat Fateh Ali Khan.

PML (N)s ads and the campaign song video look very professional at least. PTI's feels like stuff thrown together at the last minute to get it out the door and get it aired.

Agreed. Pmln videos show money while pti videos reflect junoon!

 

[waqar goraya]

I saw Ghulam Sarwar Khan sitting during PTI's manifesto conference.....He is the only man who has defeated Ch. Nisar in two and half decades....I guess with his support and votes of PTI in Wah cantt,we have a very good chance against CH. Nisar..

 

[0tt0man]

PML(N)'s ads are extremely well made. Credit to their media team.

Just saw Asma Sherazi's hosw. Shahbaz Sharif's projects are bearing fruit as many people are using it as a basis to vote for PML(N).
PPP's vote bank will entirely be in favour of PTI. We should thank Asif Zardari for this.
A majority of the undecided voters are also expected to vote PTI.
The traders community is divided. With a majority favouring PML(N).
The young population and women folk are overwhelmingly supporting PTI.
Majority people belonging to the older generation are voting PML(N).

It's amazing that a party with negligible ground presence in Rawalpindi has managed to garner so much support.

I can sense PPP's vote bank shifting towards PTI in Punjab and KPK. PPP is done and dusted courtesy of the 'damaad'

 

[waqar goraya]

FBR tells LHC Banks not giving details of candidates' accounts

The Federal Board of Revenue (FBR) informed a full bench of the Lahore High Court on Friday that no commercial bank, except one, had shared accounts detail of their customers with it.

FBR Intelligence and Investigation Inland Revenue Director Muhammad Tanvir Akhtar stated before the bench hearing several petitions seeking implementation of Articles 62 and 63 of the Constitution in the election process that the FBR had no access to information of the account holders as individual but the banks provided the board consolidated statements about them.

The Zarai Taragiati Bank Limited is the only banl( that has given the FBR access of its accounts. He said only the State Bank had the access to these accounts.

Justice Ijazul Ahsan heads the bench along with Justice Syed Mansoor Ali Shah and Justice Syed Mazahar Ali Akbar Naqvi.

Mr Akhtar said that the FBR provided the record of 24,266 candidates to the Election Commission of Pakistan (ECP). The record contained NTN (national taxnumber), income of three years, and tax return. He said that 10,794 candidates did not possess NTN as per their nomination papers. He said the FBR could not find record of any person without an NTN.

The bench directed the FBR to provide the ECP, within three weeks, complete record of tax default of all candidates and also publish the same on website. The bench directed the board to provide record of those candidates by April 17 about who appeals were being heard by election tribunals.

The bench also directed the ECP to get the record from departments concerned about the candidates defaulted on utility bills and submit the same before the court on Monday (April 15). On the request of ECP`s representative, the bench issued notices to SNGPL, Wapda, power distribution companies, PTCL, NTC and Wasa directing them to submit record of their defaulters.

Earlier, senior joint director of State Bank Ali Jafar told the bench that names of all candidates, whose names appeared on the list of defaulters maintained by the Credit Information Bureau, had also been provided to the ECP and was available on its website. Such information also included information relating to written off loans, he said, and added that over 500 cases of candidates/members of their families had beenfound to be defaulters.

Syed Faisal Raza Bokhari, NAB counsel, said that information regarding 23,599 candidates had been provided to the ECP. The bench noted that there appeared to be a difference in the total number of cases sent by the ECP (24,094) and the number mentioned by NAB. The bench asked the counsel to clarify the differential as to why information regarding the rest of the candidates had not been furnished.

During the hearing, Justice Ahsan remarl(ed that the judiciary fully supported the democratic process and efforts of the ECP. He said the election process would not be stopped orinterrupted under any circumstances. Justice Ahsan said the ECP was trying to hold fair, free and transparent elections on time despite time constraints and logistical issues.

The judge dispelled an impression and remarked that there was no question of stopping the election process by the courtfor any reason.

The bench directed the SBP, FBR, NAB and other agencies of the government to support the ECP.

Lahore High Court Bar Association`s President Abid Saqi, additional attorney general Syed Abdul Hayee Gilani and deputy attorney general Nasim Kashmiri, assistant advocate general Shan Gul also made their submissions on the matter. The hearing was adjourned till April 15.

From Dawn News

 

[AZ]

really great to see that election fever is slowly but surely building up, whoever wins it is an extremely positive thing for Pakistan.

Nawaz Sharif talking about Bullet trains in Pakistan. *facepalm* wow just wow! Railway is incurring losses of RS2.50 billion ($25 Million) every month and they are talking about bullet trains.

and Imran is talking about wiping out corruption in 90 days, we should believe that?

 

[The Dark Corner]

really great to see that election fever is slowly but surely building up, whoever wins it is an extremely positive thing for Pakistan.



and Imran is talking about wiping out corruption in 90 days, we should believe that?

Wiping out corruption, no matter how long it takes is actually important. Screw bullet trains. So yes, we should believe in a leader who addresses the ACTUAL issues, not stupid projects.

So many people don't have food to eat and these idiots want to make bullet trains.

 

[AZ]

^ the point is the making of outlandish and far-fetched claims by either side.

The lack of infrastructure and inability to be self-sustainable is an ACTUAL issue.

 

[spinDoc]

really great to see that election fever is slowly but surely building up, whoever wins it is an extremely positive thing for Pakistan.



and Imran is talking about wiping out corruption in 90 days, we should believe that?

He means big corruption thats done by PM and his cabinet. He will wipe it out in one minute once he is PM because he wont do corruption himself.

 

[cricwiz]

PML (N)s campaign song sounds a lot better than PTI's. Also sung by Rahat Fateh Ali Khan.

PML (N)s ads and the campaign song video look very professional at least. PTI's feels like stuff thrown together at the last minute to get it out the door and get it aired.

Well, PTI slogan is of hope and promises.... because they have never been in government... The only thing PTI can show (besides its promises) is the work done by Imran Khan himself (e.g. project like SKMH, Namal Uni, IKF etc)

While PML-N is campaigning with all previous projects they have done (in last 20+ years of federal/provincial govt)... After ruling Punjab for approximately 20+ years, if thats all what they have to show on their CV... than I am seriously disappointed...

 

[ahmed778]

no point-most ppers live abroad.

i live aborad but am campaiging continously for PTI ,have convinced most of my faimly and friends back home to vote PTI

PTI will win abroad anyways.

Overseas Pakistani's are going to be given voting rights IIRC.

 

[spinDoc]

Did PMLF end alliance with PMLN???

 

[Bewal Express]

really great to see that election fever is slowly but surely building up, whoever wins it is an extremely positive thing for Pakistan.



and Imran is talking about wiping out corruption in 90 days, we should believe that?

The raison d'etre of both PML/PPP is to rob and loot. They have no other reason for their existence except to make money for their members-you can call them businesses(at the expense of the poor Pakistanis) and at least IK can wipe out the corruption of the leadership within days. Nawaz is not there to serve the people, he is a crook by nature.

 

[Bashira_taeli]

THE YOUTH VOTE: MORE HYPE THAN REALITY

THAT well over half the Pakistani population is now under the age of 25 is well known. But while there has been plenty of hype about the so-called youth vote, getting from the demographics to young people’s voting habits and preferences has generally been an exercise in speculation.

Now that voter registration is linked to computerised national identity cards (CNICs), some statistics are available about how the youth bulge has fed into electoral rolls. We know that nearly a fifth of the 85 million Pakistanis registered to vote in the upcoming elections are between 18 and 25 years old, and that another 15pc are between 26 and 30.

What we don’t know is how this compares to previous elections, since no data is available about the age distribution of voters in past polls. So the claim that young people will have an unprecedented effect on this year’s elections has no concrete figures to back it up.

Second, it is unclear how likely young people are to turn out on voting day, particularly since those who reached voting age after the elections were registered automatically once they got CNICs.“

For the first time we are getting bits of data on voters’ age distribution, but they are all pieces of a puzzle that hasn’t been put together,” says Mudassar Rizvi of the Free and Fair Election Network (Fafen). “There hasn’t been academic work on the topic, and we haven’t studied voting behaviour. A lot of the analysis has been based on assumptions.“For one thing, voter turnout in Pakistan in 2008 was 44pc. So all 30m voters under the age of 30 are not going to be casting votes.”Mr Rizvi also questions the assumption that the youth are more likely to vote for the Pakistan Tehreek-i-Insaf (PTI), adding that there is no evidence to suggest that young people aren’t just as fragmented in terms of political preferences as the rest of the population is.

But a 4,450-person nationwide survey carried out by Fafen in January does provide some clues about how young voters might behave. Only 48pc of voters aged 18-25 said they intend to vote in the coming elections, far behind other age groups (68pc of the 26-35 age group said they would vote, and the number rises with age to reach 84pc of those above 55).


Another 47pc of those 25 and under simply didn’t answer the question, so the number who actually do turn up to vote could be higher. But what is clear is that the youngest respondents were either less enthusiastic about voting or less clear about whether or not they will vote.

Fafen also asked respondents whether they consider themselves to be associated with any political party in any way, whether as a worker, registered member, office-bearer or simply someone who is “close” to a party. While over half of those aged 55 and above said they were, only 37pc of the youngest voters — a level of political involvement lower than the national average — said the same.

One popular claim does seem to be borne out by the survey results — the youth’s attraction to the PTI. Of those who said they were affiliated with a party, the highest proportion in every age bracket named the PML-N as the party they were associated with. But among those between 18 and 25, 20pc — far higher than in any other age bracket — named the PTI. This number falls off sharply with age; even in the 26-35 bracket, only 12pc named Imran Khan’s party.This may have something to do with the basis on which young people select their party of choice. The numbers show that voters above 25 are more likely to base this decision on a party’s track record of performance in their area — 16pc for this age group versus only 9pc for those 25 and under. Instead, 40pc of the youngest age bracket base their loyalties on a party’s manifesto and another 21pc on the party’s ideology.But Dr Mohammad Waseem, a professor of political science at the Lahore University of Management Sciences, argues that the popular perception about the youth’s preference for the PTI may be overstated because of the visibility of its supporters, the urban youth.“Youth from bigger cities can make their presence felt through social media and cable television,” he explains, “but voting is also territory-bound and constituency-bound, and there are local power structures at play that limit Imran Khan’s penetration in many areas.“Because urban youth are more visible, they have become a platform for the PTI to claim widespread youth support.

”Aside from party preferences, the Fafen survey showed that on several issues young people have opinions very similar to those of older Pakistanis. They are close to the average on questions such as voters’ confidence in Pakistan’s electoral process and whether or not respondents consider past elections in their constituencies to have been free and transparent.

So while the political views and voting behaviours of the country’s youth are widely speculated about, they are not particularly well understood. At the moment there seems to be little hard evidence to suggest that young people will behave significantly differently from, or are more politically conscious than, the rest of Pakistan’s electorate.

http://dawn.com/2013/04/12/the-youth-vote-more-hype-than-reality/

 

[Black Zero]

THE YOUTH VOTE: MORE HYPE THAN REALITY

THAT well over half the Pakistani population is now under the age of 25 is well known. But while there has been plenty of hype about the so-called youth vote, getting from the demographics to young people’s voting habits and preferences has generally been an exercise in speculation.

Now that voter registration is linked to computerised national identity cards (CNICs), some statistics are available about how the youth bulge has fed into electoral rolls. We know that nearly a fifth of the 85 million Pakistanis registered to vote in the upcoming elections are between 18 and 25 years old, and that another 15pc are between 26 and 30.

What we don’t know is how this compares to previous elections, since no data is available about the age distribution of voters in past polls. So the claim that young people will have an unprecedented effect on this year’s elections has no concrete figures to back it up.

Second, it is unclear how likely young people are to turn out on voting day, particularly since those who reached voting age after the elections were registered automatically once they got CNICs.“

For the first time we are getting bits of data on voters’ age distribution, but they are all pieces of a puzzle that hasn’t been put together,” says Mudassar Rizvi of the Free and Fair Election Network (Fafen). “There hasn’t been academic work on the topic, and we haven’t studied voting behaviour. A lot of the analysis has been based on assumptions.“For one thing, voter turnout in Pakistan in 2008 was 44pc. So all 30m voters under the age of 30 are not going to be casting votes.”Mr Rizvi also questions the assumption that the youth are more likely to vote for the Pakistan Tehreek-i-Insaf (PTI), adding that there is no evidence to suggest that young people aren’t just as fragmented in terms of political preferences as the rest of the population is.

But a 4,450-person nationwide survey carried out by Fafen in January does provide some clues about how young voters might behave. Only 48pc of voters aged 18-25 said they intend to vote in the coming elections, far behind other age groups (68pc of the 26-35 age group said they would vote, and the number rises with age to reach 84pc of those above 55).


Another 47pc of those 25 and under simply didn’t answer the question, so the number who actually do turn up to vote could be higher. But what is clear is that the youngest respondents were either less enthusiastic about voting or less clear about whether or not they will vote.

Fafen also asked respondents whether they consider themselves to be associated with any political party in any way, whether as a worker, registered member, office-bearer or simply someone who is “close” to a party. While over half of those aged 55 and above said they were, only 37pc of the youngest voters — a level of political involvement lower than the national average — said the same.

One popular claim does seem to be borne out by the survey results — the youth’s attraction to the PTI. Of those who said they were affiliated with a party, the highest proportion in every age bracket named the PML-N as the party they were associated with. But among those between 18 and 25, 20pc — far higher than in any other age bracket — named the PTI. This number falls off sharply with age; even in the 26-35 bracket, only 12pc named Imran Khan’s party.This may have something to do with the basis on which young people select their party of choice. The numbers show that voters above 25 are more likely to base this decision on a party’s track record of performance in their area — 16pc for this age group versus only 9pc for those 25 and under. Instead, 40pc of the youngest age bracket base their loyalties on a party’s manifesto and another 21pc on the party’s ideology.But Dr Mohammad Waseem, a professor of political science at the Lahore University of Management Sciences, argues that the popular perception about the youth’s preference for the PTI may be overstated because of the visibility of its supporters, the urban youth.“Youth from bigger cities can make their presence felt through social media and cable television,” he explains, “but voting is also territory-bound and constituency-bound, and there are local power structures at play that limit Imran Khan’s penetration in many areas.“Because urban youth are more visible, they have become a platform for the PTI to claim widespread youth support.

”Aside from party preferences, the Fafen survey showed that on several issues young people have opinions very similar to those of older Pakistanis. They are close to the average on questions such as voters’ confidence in Pakistan’s electoral process and whether or not respondents consider past elections in their constituencies to have been free and transparent.

So while the political views and voting behaviours of the country’s youth are widely speculated about, they are not particularly well understood. At the moment there seems to be little hard evidence to suggest that young people will behave significantly differently from, or are more politically conscious than, the rest of Pakistan’s electorate.

http://dawn.com/2013/04/12/the-youth-vote-more-hype-than-reality/

I feel sorry for leaders like IK...who got no grip on reality..

 

[Waseem]

I feel sorry for leaders like IK...who got no grip on reality..

I feel sorry for some Pakistanis who got no grip on reality.
Imran Khan won't be an ultimate loser because he is NOT power hungry and MOST sane people know he is not dying to get into power. He would spend more time with kids and relax a lot more but it's people of Pakistan who would see same madness that we have been witnessing for decades.

It is NOT Imran's test, it's test for people of Pakistan who need to decide if they really want change

 

[Bewal Express]

Let the PPP/PML bleed them dry. If thats what they want, thats what they will get. We know that Pakistani people are generally a bit thick(afterall why vote for people that are standing in elections to rob you) and these elections will prove my theory.

 

[Waseem]

Billu barber cha gaya lol

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[Black Zero]

I feel sorry for some Pakistanis who got no grip on reality.
Imran Khan won't be an ultimate loser because he is NOT power hungry and MOST sane people know he is not dying to get into power. He would spend more time with kids and relax a lot more but it's people of Pakistan who would see same madness that we have been witnessing for decades.

It is NOT Imran's test, it's test for people of Pakistan who need to decide if they really want change

i disagree...
ik wants to implement his plans/ideas to Pakistan...and for that he would need to win...

its all open competition to win the votes...

if he is not after power then he should forget about his plans for Pakistan!

 

[Waseem]

i disagree...
ik wants to implement his plans/ideas to Pakistan...and for that he would need to win...

its all open competition to win the votes...

if he is not after power then he should forget about his plans for Pakistan!

Off course he wants votes and to win the election but surely not dreaming about 1000 security guards, paid around the world trips, luxurious prime minister houses, unlimited opportunities to increase personal assets and employment opportunities for immediate family and relatives?

 

[insaftak]

Kia baat hai gujranwala walay barbar ke!!!

this Pic is from NA1 Peshawar

 

[waqar goraya]

Kia baat hai gujranwala walay barbar ke!!!

this Pic is from NA1 Peshawar

Kia baat hai?

 

[insaftak]

Kia baat hai?

Kia baat hai...meaning wa wa kia kaam kia hai

 

[waqar goraya]

Kia baat hai...meaning wa wa kia kaam kia hai

precisely! this is what i am asking...

 

[insaftak]

^^

LOL...

Time for some Angrazi...

I meant "Amazing stuff by barber in Gujranwala

 

[insaftak]

Legend campaigning for Imran Khan on ground

 

[Anfield]

really great to see that election fever is slowly but surely building up, whoever wins it is an extremely positive thing for Pakistan.



and Imran is talking about wiping out corruption in 90 days, we should believe that?

What you should believe in is listening/reading careful. He said he will end the big corruption at the top level which is destroying the county like Power Plant, railway, etc. Never he said he will end all the corruption in 90 days.

 

[shark11]

Pakistan as a whole is divided into ethinic groups.....IK will face a big defeat in Punjab .....Lot of Punjabis I know are still going to vote for Nawz sharif only cuz he belongs to punjab....Likewise Imran is going to win from kpk very easily this time around....But its the province of Punjab that makes the difference cuz of its huge population, but sorry to say the people there are very dumb to say the least.....I mean after seeing the performance of PML N in 5 years who would want to vote for them.......these guys are even more dangerous than zardari group.....

 

[Nice-N-Fresh]

Pakistan as a whole is divided into ethinic groups.....IK will face a big defeat in Punjab .....Lot of Punjabis I know are still going to vote for Nawz sharif only cuz he belongs to punjab....Likewise Imran is going to win from kpk very easily this time around....But its the province of Punjab that makes the difference cuz of its huge population, but sorry to say the people there are very dumb to say the least.....I mean after seeing the performance of PML N in 5 years who would want to vote for them.......these guys are even more dangerous than zardari group.....

In my parents areaof Punjaab, Chakwal district, IK is very strong. I don´t think it will be a "big defeat" to whoever loses in punjab. It will be a nail biter. Touch and go :ramiz

 

[waqar goraya]

^^

LOL...

Time for some Angrazi...

I meant "Amazing stuff by barber in Gujranwala

Yar!Urdu ati hai mjhe....

I asked you what did the barber do amazing in Gujranwala...?

 

[insaftak]

^^

check the video in post #694

 

[zimmz]

In my parents areaof Punjaab, Chakwal district, IK is very strong. I don´t think it will be a "big defeat" to whoever loses in punjab. It will be a nail biter. Touch and go :ramiz

On what basis you say that?
People in all villages usually vote for someone who promise them gas, road, bridge, job, etc etc. In my village youth have passion but some of them can't resist the choice of elders.

Where in Chakwal you belong to?

 

[baalti]

On what basis you say that?
People in all villages usually vote for someone who promise them gas, road, bridge, job, etc etc. In my village youth have passion but some of them can't resist the choice of elders.

Where in Chakwal you belong to?

near kalar kahar for me

 

[zimmz]

^village name?

 

[zimmz]

Haha a new bhangra song, liked the mixing of scenes Imran hitting six and the lion thrown back

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[GujjarSher]

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I'm really not supporting PML-N, but objectively speaking that is a well done ad/song.

 

[baalti]

^village name?

sar kalan... (close to buchal kalan/laffi/lilla)...

 

[PakistanPaindabad]

I'm really not supporting PML-N, but objectively speaking that is a well done ad/song.

PML (N) is doing a lot better campaigning than PTI..

PTI workers are having a tough time finding flags, flyers or even the letter of IK to give to the TRs..let along anything else, seems mismanaged and chaotic..

PTI's ad are pretty bad .. so I am not sure what they are doing. 28 days left, and PML (N) is way ahead of PTI in every aspect.. itll take a miracle to turn it around from here for the PTI..

I hate to say this but I am slightly disappointed by Asad Umar..he promised an amazing campaign, and all we have seen so far is a stop and go campaign..with 28 days left, I doubt there are many surprises left that can cause any dent to PML (N)..the only hope was to sway the undecided voter, but PTI's message hasnt gotten to them yet..there are reports that a lot of PTI supporters, or a lot of voters in PAkistan dont even know that they need to vote on the bat..

Disappointed to say the least..PTI has lost the initiative..

 

[Waseem]

sar kalan... (close to buchal kalan/laffi/lilla)...

PTI ads i have seen are more about "Tabdeeli Razakars" and PMLN one is about actual campaign but have to agree it is quite professional.
I am also concerned about lack of time left for final assault that we have been hoping for.

 

[baalti]

honestly, its a decision that Pakistani's have to make, on how they want Pak to be in the near future... PTI can't do any wrong from here on unless they succumb to the pressure and self-destruct...

if PTI wins, awesome...

if PMLN wins, PTI will keep them in check by being a true OPPOSITION for the first time ever... and the public will see that (hopefully, and i say that coz pmln will be forced to do proper things coz of strong opposition from PTI, and hopefully our public doesnt get dusched into thinking that PMLN are the life-savers)...

 

[insaftak]

PTV promoting us Key is turnout... we need 60+% to clean sweep. Keep Vote4None guys out!!!

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[mnoman15]

Must watch video https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=172558739554804&set=vb.442925309080856&type=2&theater

 

[The Dark Corner]

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[AZ]

What you should believe in is listening/reading careful. He said he will end the big corruption at the top level which is destroying the county like Power Plant, railway, etc. Never he said he will end all the corruption in 90 days.

not quite.

1st he said he will wipe it out in 90 days.

then he said he will wipe out the 'big' corruption in 90 days.

then he said that the same phenomenon happened in Bihar (or someplace in India) that is where he got the 90 days figure from.

plenty of revisions from IK.