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Pakistan (143/2) clinch a historic ODI series win with a commanding 8-wicket victory over Australia (140) in the 3rd ODI, securing the series 2-1

Hyder said:
Well actually yes thats how it works lol
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^^ Straight from google 🤣
 
RedwoodOriginal said:
I mean nobody comes close to Ramiz. But this is also a clown. As he has shown multiple times.
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Not really, i think hes potentially the best chairman we have had in recent times. If he makes a mistake, he is correct to fix it. Bit like Roman Abrhamovich. The champions trophy will be his a defining moment administratively.
 
Slim said:
Its Aqib behind all of this. Gillipese himself says hes only a match day strategist and has no role in any thing else.
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Not sure if Aqib picks the playing XI or not - in the squad, he actually has picked few "all-rounders".
 
Slim said:
Not really, i think hes potentially the best chairman we have had in recent times. If he makes a mistake, he is correct to fix it. Bit like Roman Abrhamovich. The champions trophy will be his a defining moment administratively.
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I don't agree in any way whatsoever. But you are entitled to your opinion.
 
MMHS said:
Not sure if Aqib picks the playing XI or not - in the squad, he actually has picked few "all-rounders".
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Aqib picks the playing 11 as well. They took the power away from captain and coach after the Saya corporation fiasco.
 
Come on Afridi, easy wickets to pick up now.
 
Slim said:
Its Aqib behind all of this. Gillipese himself says hes only a match day strategist and has no role in any thing else.
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MMHS said:
Not sure if Aqib picks the playing XI or not - in the squad, he actually has picked few "all-rounders".
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Why is it, that we give credit to everyone except the players? They are the ones going out there and actually performing
 
Shaheen bowls em! He's bowled extremely well today. Despite the low 130's pace, his line/length has been excellent.
 
Farabi said:
It’s very convenient to downplay the opposition's efforts by pointing out that Head, Marsh, and Carey are missing, calling it a “build-up to the BGT.” Head is really the only world-class batter who’s absent. Pakistan also doesn’t have Fakhar in the lineup.

I don’t think India’s bowling would have dominated this ODI series the way Pakistan's current quartet has. India’s attack tends to drop significantly beyond Bumrah and Shami is past his peak. However, their batting lineup makes up for this, and having world-class spinners certainly helps.
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Uselessly triggered response. This has nothing to do with India.

Carey is a much better batsman than anyone playing today and you would know that if you watched the ODI series in England and see his Shield numbers this season.

And Mitchell Marsh is much better than anyone in the Top 3 currently.
 
RedwoodOriginal said:
Why is it, that we give credit to everyone except the players? They are the ones going out there and actually performing
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These players were there before too when they smeared their faces in the mud by losing to usa, afghanistan and bangladesh.
 
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MMHS said:
After many, many years, I see a PAK team that knows their core strength. PAK as a team will and can never play a cricket game of bat vs bat - fans should forget about playing "modern" game of 325 vs 325 and fantasy scores like 180/3 after 25 overs, rather the game for PCT should be 10 wickets vs 10 wickets. And PAK bowling can't paly the "containing" game - it should know only one way to bowl.

Lots of credit should go to Gillespie to realize the core strength of PAK team & Riz as well to back him. Long, long after, probably since 1990s, I see a PAK team with 4 strike bowlers picked on absolute bowling merit without considering the "runs from tail". Still whatever comes from bat is bonus, but these four are picked for 40 wicket taking overs and that was PAK's game I saw under Khan, where at times someone Imran Khan was 6th bowler of the playing XI
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still boss I think it's more to do with pitches and how useless Aussie batsmen have been , otherwise with such slow pace and without batting depth we would be looking at 3-0, but still credit to all involved for taking full advantage, in Sena i think we should always go with 3 genuine pacers plus Jamal and one specialist spinner who can actually spin the ball with control,.his batting will be just bonus, and in Aisa we can add another spin al rounder in place of jamal or pacers, batting is best available ,maybe swap Abdullah with Foji , but he isn't getting any younger.
 
RedwoodOriginal said:
Why is it, that we give credit to everyone except the players? They are the ones going out there and actually performing
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Indeed, but that's bit silly to say that team is performing well, because players are performing.
 
Shaheen's finger wasn't dislocated 🤣🤣. That's the point. It was a sprain lol.
 
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Its funny how Fox calls it Australia India series, and indians trying hard to brand it with that funny sounding acronym 😂😂
 
RedwoodOriginal said:
Not really. I have a very low view of Pakistani politics and don't fall on either side of the camp.

His list of crimes and misdemeanors is far too long from hiring and firing multiple selection committees, the bonehead decision of sending the players to an army camp, hiring Gary Kirsten, taking away his powers and then letting him go. And a bunch of other things that aren;t coming to my mind right now.
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Look up Roman Abramovich and Chelsea. Its a different style of management. Chaotic but brings silverware. The other style of management is pathetic sticking to status quo and winning zlich.
 
Zeshan547 said:
Still i

still boss I think it's more to do with pitches and how useless Aussie batsmen have been , otherwise with such slow pace and without batting depth we would be looking at 3-0, but still credit to all involved for taking full advantage, in Sena i think we should always go with 3 genuine pacers plus Jamal and one specialist spinner who can actually spin the ball with control,.his batting will be just bonus, and in Aisa we can add another spin al rounder in place of jamal or pacers, batting is best available ,maybe swap Abdullah with Foji , but he isn't getting any younger.
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I wrote exactly the same - 3+1 wicket taking bowlers - Saim/Aga to share 10 overs and 7 batsmen including Riz. Play a very old school game, but do the job you know best clinically.

Wicket is indeed conducive to attacking bowling and Aussies underestimated PAK attack (after slogging Pom bowling), but this is the way forward. PAK should pick all-rounders if he is at least ARazzak or Mahmood class.
 
This target wont be as easy it sounds, due to the extra pace and bounce at Perth.
 
batandballbattle said:
Bowlers do even better and restrict them to 140.
No dramas from here, we're marching towards history!
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It's a bilateral odi series.

If it's test then yes big deal. Odi and t20 bilaterals means nothing

Besides aus without head is a mediocre team in LOI.

Team relies heavily on Warner and head. Not starc bark Clarke dark etc

Head and Warner. Warner is gone. So now head and basically head. Just head.
 
Incredible performance this by Pakistan. They've looked like a much better side even since that 2nd test against England.

If they can keep themselves grounded and don't get ahead of themselves, like they often do, then this team can become a very formidable and dangerous side.
 
Same players but better bowling changes and field placing makes them much more effective. Credit to Rizwan for giving bowlers direction and motivatiinin the field.
 
Slim said:
These players were there before too when they smeared their faces in the mud by losing to usa, afghanistan and bangladesh.
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Coaches and selectors are just there to select the squads and tell you what to do. Ultimately its the players who have to execute and none of it matters if they are unable to do that. The most credit goes to the players.
 
But with your combo it means 20 overs of spin in SENA, not sure thats the wisest move, plus Jamal has pace and bowl heavy ball, and very handy number 8 atleast , and his bowling won't be worse than any 4th specialist seamer on most days. He is work in progress and no Razzaq but we have to start somewhere. In Aisa we can easily replace him with Spin all rounder.
 
kron said:
It's a bilateral odi series.

If it's test then yes big deal. Odi and t20 bilaterals means nothing

Besides aus without head is a mediocre team in LOI.

Team relies heavily on Warner and head. Not starc bark Clarke dark etc

Head and Warner. Warner is gone. So now head and basically head. Just head.
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Head is on paternity leave, can only beat what's in front of you. And they walloped a much stronger side in the last game.
A bilateral series in the CT run up counts for something too since it gives an idea of standing before the tournament. Plus we've not won a series here for 22 years so that adds more significance.
 
We are not used to it, seeing such a scorecard from Australia against Pakistan

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Getting really nervous. What if we are 20/2. 88/5. Will we crumble under pressure of winning against Australia???
 
Even if you take out today's game, which did not feature a full-strength Australian side, Pakistan have been absolutely brilliant all series. The most amazing thing has been the aggression and clarity of plans. They have essentially played with four bowlers and bowled Australia out twice and almost bowled them out thrice.

Have to give alot of credit to Rizwan's captaincy that has been aggressive and focused on taking wickets rather than playing out the overs, which is what Babar was known for.
 
kron said:
It's a bilateral odi series.

If it's test then yes big deal. Odi and t20 bilaterals means nothing

Besides aus without head is a mediocre team in LOI.

Team relies heavily on Warner and head. Not starc bark Clarke dark etc

Head and Warner. Warner is gone. So now head and basically head. Just head.
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Bilateral wins against aussie will help them in big tournaments psychologically
 
RedwoodOriginal said:
Even if you take out today's game, which did not feature a full-strength Australian side, Pakistan have been absolutely brilliant all series. The most amazing thing has been the aggression and clarity of plans. They have essentially played with four bowlers and bowled Australia out twice and almost bowled them out thrice.

Have to give alot of credit to Rizwan's captaincy that has been aggressive and focused on taking wickets rather than playing out the overs, which is what Babar was known for.
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Bowlers have been spot on in all three games. Which never happens for Pakistan but for some reason they adjusted perfectly to the conditions straightaway
 
RedwoodOriginal said:
Even if you take out today's game, which did not feature a full-strength Australian side, Pakistan have been absolutely brilliant all series. The most amazing thing has been the aggression and clarity of plans. They have essentially played with four bowlers and bowled Australia out twice and almost bowled them out thrice.

Have to give alot of credit to Rizwan's captaincy that has been aggressive and focused on taking wickets rather than playing out the overs, which is what Babar was known for.
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Definitely a huge upgrade over Babar. Babar was always scripted. Following a typical plan that he probably had for 50 overs. Doubt he would have used just fast bowlers for almost entire series like Rizwan. At one stage Rizwan had 3 slips and gully. Doubt Babar would have done it. Rizwan bring a sense of calmness also.
 
RidiculousMan said:
Bowlers have been spot on in all three games. Which never happens for Pakistan but for some reason they adjusted perfectly to the conditions straightaway
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Yup. They have been outstanding. We were really hyping this pace-attack prior to the last World Cup and the Naseem got injured. Let's see if they can recreate the magic we were seeing prior to the 2023 World Cup going into the Champions Trophy.
 
mon858 said:
Definitely a huge upgrade over Babar. Babar was always scripted. Following a typical plan that he probably had for 50 overs. Doubt he would have used just fast bowlers for almost entire series like Rizwan. At one stage Rizwan had 3 slips and gully. Doubt Babar would have done it. Rizwan bring a sense of calmness also.
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Babar lacked killer instinct as captain. There were so many moments when the bowlers had the opposition on the ropes and he completely let the game slip away rather than going in for the kill. He had a propensity for taking the fast-bowlers off when they were on-song to save their overs and then it was too late. Case in point the 2023 Asia Cup match against India or the 2022 Asia Cup final against Sri Lanka. His captaincy was rooted in conservatism. Rizwan is a massive upgrade and by far the best option for this role that Pakistan have right now.
 
Shows the significance of having a 4 pronged pace attack. Even if you have 3 good ones 1 part timers or not accurate bowler can release pressure. They work in pairs and at no point they gave freebies to any batsmen. Almost zero short and wide or full pitched driving balls. Some credit must to Gillespie as well who must have had influence on where to pitch in Australia.
We had similar success bowling wise with 4 pronged pace attach in 2015 world cup. Just that batting screwed up big time to not even chase small totals.
 
Nikhil_cric said:
Uselessly triggered response. This has nothing to do with India.

Carey is a much better batsman than anyone playing today and you would know that if you watched the ODI series in England and see his Shield numbers this season.

And Mitchell Marsh is much better than anyone in the Top 3 currently.
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It’s not a triggered response I am not arguing if Carey, Marsh and Head are better. They are. But it’s Australia’s prerogative to select who they think is their best team if one or 2 players are missing. One can also argue that Fakhar, Imam, Iftikhar and Shadab have better numbers than Saim, Abdullah, Irfan, and Kamran. There are no excuses for Aus folding for 164 and now 140 odd today. Learn to give credit where it’s due.
 
If we are to be glass half empty, an absolutely golden opportunity missed to inflict a 3-0 whitewash.
 
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