Pakistan v England | 3rd ODI | Sharjah | Nov 17, 2015 | Pakistan innings

[JibranAnsari]

Probably the most boring match of the year. I don't know why would anyone pay to watch these batsmen.

 

[Robert]

Blimey, suicidal lemming stuff by PAK. Most curious.....

 

[Pakpak]

No, because they panicked and started slogging.



Typical Pakistani mentality of absolving people of personal responsibility and deflecting the blame onto others.

Captain is not to blame for players being too lazy to run between the wickets or awful shot selection.

I did not mean run outs. I meant how the team generally performs.

Being an ardent Misbah lover I doubt you'll get the point.

 

[#GreenRoars]

Excellent running by tailenders

 

[JibranAnsari]

Biggest criminal today is Sarfraz - 135/3; 29 overs; often teams add 120 from there; he played the dumbest of all shots.

Yah , that was awful.

But others were bad as well , every single wicket was given away today.

 

[The cricket enthusiast]

Not my fault if the truth hurts. I just don't like Pakistani fans stating they are the most important and best Cricket team. I'm helping you guys to wake up!

Very good test team – that's brilliant, but in limited overs now – you have to face the reality. Should really be below the West Indies in the rankings, but you cancelled the series in the last minute just to be in that CT – it sums up Pakistan's (be their fans, team, administrators) attitude.

I'd rather stop watching cricket than be a Bangladesh supporter

If bangladesh is only the only team left to play cricket i would rather give up watching cricket

 

[The_KING]

Butler is a terrible wicket keeper

 

[MMHS]

Need to install brains first in some of the brainless players

Partially true, but Waquar has his limitation as well. Check my post somewhere up, I thought 240 'll be a match winning total here - PAK tried to post 300; which is the root cause of this position. After 10 overs, the way ball is dying & reaching WK in 2 bounce, I am sure a professional Coach would have reassessed the target & sent notes to players at 1st drinks.

 

[marlonbrowndo]

Biggest criminal today is Sarfraz - 135/3; 29 overs; often teams add 120 from there; he played the dumbest of all shots.

Fully agree. Sarfraz and hafeez

 

[#GreenRoars]

Good shot by Zafar

 

[JibranAnsari]

Partially true, but Waquar has his limitation as well. Check my post somewhere up, I thought 240 'll be a match winning total here - PAK tried to post 300; which is the root cause of this position. After 10 overs, the way ball is dying & reaching WK in 2 bounce, I am sure a professional Coach would have reassessed the target & sent notes to players at 1st drinks.

Yah and our players are capable of interpreting a message

 

[marlonbrowndo]

These run outs are like a comedy movie

 

[Big Mac]

I did not mean run outs. I meant how the team generally performs.

Being an ardent Misbah lover I doubt you'll get the point.

No, please explain to me how Azhar is to blame for this.

If you're not talking about run outs, and an inability to play the hook shot or shot selection in general, then how exactly is it Azhar's fault?

 

[JibranAnsari]

Zafar seems to lack power to hit it big , needs to just nudge it around a bit.

 

[marlonbrowndo]

Malik was running back full circle wth

 

[zabalestmsm]

I like the intent of Zafar Gohar! This is how every batsman in our team should play! With an aggressive intent!

 

[dhump]

Malik was running back full circle wth

very stupid or shady honestly...he ran back a full circle whyy ???

 

[JibranAnsari]

Well number 9 truly represents our ranking in the table. I am pretty sure ireland will be better than us soon.

 

[The cricket enthusiast]

Not my fault if the truth hurts. I just don't like Pakistani fans stating they are the most important and best Cricket team. I'm helping you guys to wake up!

Very good test team – that's brilliant, but in limited overs now – you have to face the reality. Should really be below the West Indies in the rankings, but you cancelled the series in the last minute just to be in that CT – it sums up Pakistan's (be their fans, team, administrators) attitude.

Zafar seems to lack power to hit it big , needs to just nudge it around a bit.

He reminds me of fawad alam.

 

[#GreenRoars]

Biggie by Zafar, great shot

 

[The cricket enthusiast]

Not my fault if the truth hurts. I just don't like Pakistani fans stating they are the most important and best Cricket team. I'm helping you guys to wake up!

Very good test team – that's brilliant, but in limited overs now – you have to face the reality. Should really be below the West Indies in the rankings, but you cancelled the series in the last minute just to be in that CT – it sums up Pakistan's (be their fans, team, administrators) attitude.

Sixxxx by fawaddd part2

 

[marlonbrowndo]

Good shot zafar

 

[m.shah]

I don't know why hafeez slowed down suddenly and let the spark to the collapse.

 

[daytrader]

Partially true, but Waquar has his limitation as well. Check my post somewhere up, I thought 240 'll be a match winning total here - PAK tried to post 300; which is the root cause of this position. After 10 overs, the way ball is dying & reaching WK in 2 bounce, I am sure a professional Coach would have reassessed the target & sent notes to players at 1st drinks.

That's been the main problem with Pakistan's management. In this age of computers and analysts we still lack REAL TIME analysis of what's happening in the moment. We have all the resources but what's the point of having aces if your not going to use them at the correct time

 

[#GreenRoars]

Zafar seems to lack power to hit it big , needs to just nudge it around a bit.

) You didn't watch him at domestic and U-19 level i guess

 

[Shafi]

How good is Zafar Gohar??

 

[Executioner]

Have been an avid fan of Pakistan cricket over the day. Pakistan have done well in Tests, though i didn't watch a single match because don't really follow test cricket outside BD, not even Ashes.

ODI batting lacks that certain X-factor. I think the team looks rather a mild team. Azhar Ali, Iftekhar, Babar, Hafeez, Malik, that is not really an opposition batting attack teams will have headaches regarding the batting lineup

In the earlier days, Umar, Afridi, Razzak finishing the batting was rather dangerous for the bowling side

 

[dhump]

How good is Zafar Gohar??

I think PP can hype him as next sobers after this six.

 

[daytrader]

he reminds me of fawad alam.

boom

 

[uberkoen]

Zafar seems to lack power to hit it big , needs to just nudge it around a bit.

Say what?

 

[Executioner]

I am no fan of drafting in someone like Gohar with less than 10 and 20 matches experience in FC and List A respectively. A bad performance here means he will be ousted for life

 

[zabalestmsm]

Wahab as usual wasting deliveries! He should be at 11!

 

[daytrader]

Another debutant to save us today

 

[JibranAnsari]

Have been an avid fan of Pakistan cricket over the day. Pakistan have done well in Tests, though i didn't watch a single match because don't really follow test cricket outside BD, not even Ashes.

ODI batting lacks that certain X-factor. I think the team looks rather a mild team. Azhar Ali, Iftekhar, Babar, Hafeez, Malik, that is not really an opposition batting attack teams will have headaches regarding the batting lineup

In the earlier days, Umar, Afridi, Razzak finishing the batting was rather dangerous for the bowling side

I think teams like zimbabwe , ireland and afghanistan will have a good chance against pakistan in ODIs , we lack quality in both batting and bowling in odis. We can play waiting game in these conditions in test cricket but in odi cricket we are pushed and we break easily.

 

[Pakpak]

Don't respond to him, explain to us all the point that I'm missing.

Just like Misbah, or any other Captain, get the plaudits for being the best test captain yadayada they should be held accountable for poor performances too.

Our ODI team stinks. That's putting it politely. We have no batting order resembling common sense, our constant chopping and changing is a mess and the captain should get some blame when it comes to that.

 

[dhump]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">They must think we are all stupid.....</p>— Michael Vaughan (@MichaelVaughan) <a href="https://twitter.com/MichaelVaughan/status/666617539640885250">November 17, 2015</a></blockquote>
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Something to read here.

 

[#GreenRoars]

Lovely batting by Zafar Gohar, showing his talent.

 

[JibranAnsari]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">They must think we are all stupid.....</p>— Michael Vaughan (@MichaelVaughan) <a href="https://twitter.com/MichaelVaughan/status/666617539640885250">November 17, 2015</a></blockquote>
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Something to read here.

what??

 

[Big Mac]

Just like Misbah, or any other Captain, get the plaudits for being the best test captain yadayada they should be held accountable for poor performances too.

Our ODI team stinks. That's putting it politely. We have no batting order resembling common sense, our constant chopping and changing is a mess and the captain should get some blame when it comes to that.

So it's the captain's fault that the batsmen can't bat?

 

[Pakpak]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">They must think we are all stupid.....</p>— Michael Vaughan (@MichaelVaughan) <a href="https://twitter.com/MichaelVaughan/status/666617539640885250">November 17, 2015</a></blockquote>
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Something to read here.

Serious accusation here.

 

[ethan hunt]

I think teams like zimbabwe , ireland and afghanistan will have a good chance against pakistan in ODIs , we lack quality in both batting and bowling in odis. We can play waiting game in these conditions in test cricket but in odi cricket we are pushed and we break easily.

number 2 in t20s as well , ODI cricket is a different ballgame where the slog or block approach doesn't work.

 

[JibranAnsari]

Another one bites dust , we just cant play short deliveries.

 

[dhump]

Serious accusation here.

what??

last tweet was this

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">3 Run Outs and a few iffy shots for Pakistan.... Never seen that before .... !! <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/PAKvENG?src=hash">#PAKvENG</a></p>— Michael Vaughan (@MichaelVaughan) <a href="https://twitter.com/MichaelVaughan/status/666616029745979392">November 17, 2015</a></blockquote>
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[#GreenRoars]

Debutant tried good, i hope management won't drop him after this match.

 

[Pakpak]

So it's the captain's fault that the batsmen can't bat?

We have no batting order resembling common sense, our constant chopping and changing is a mess and the captain should get some blame when it comes to that.

You seem to have comprehension issues so I have bolded my points above.
If a Captain can get the plaudits for wins and leading his team well then the reverse should work too.

 

[Arsal_AK]

Biggest criminal today is Sarfraz - 135/3; 29 overs; often teams add 120 from there; he played the dumbest of all shots.

Thats why he is not a no.4. You need batsmen that can go on and score big in the top 4.

Haris at 3 and Rizwan at 4 is what we should be going with.

Sarfraz will play a dumb shot 8/10 times in those situation. Has been the case for a while.

 

[JibranAnsari]

number 2 in t20s as well , ODI cricket is a different ballgame where the slog or block approach doesn't work.

t20 is just fun cricket

 

[MMHS]

This groundsman should be given P45 immediately. This is a pathetic ODI wicket - had they used 1 ball, by now most of the balls would have been shooters & the out field is slower than a soccer turf.

Zafar gone - honest trier, probably still not brain dead; 6 months with this company, he 'll start to believe "Larke lenge........"

 

[Pakpak]

Debutant tried good, i hope management won't drop him after this match.

Its Pakistan, you never know!

 

[dhump]

Debutant tried good, i hope management won't drop him after this match.

Or play him as an opener in next game.

 

[JibranAnsari]

last tweet was this

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">3 Run Outs and a few iffy shots for Pakistan.... Never seen that before .... !! <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/PAKvENG?src=hash">#PAKvENG</a></p>— Michael Vaughan (@MichaelVaughan) <a href="https://twitter.com/MichaelVaughan/status/666616029745979392">November 17, 2015</a></blockquote>
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LOL , he underestimates our ability to collapse in a stupid manner without any foreign elements involved.

 

[MMHS]

Thats why he is not a no.4. You need batsmen that can go on and score big in the top 4.

Haris at 3 and Rizwan at 4 is what we should be going with.

Sarfraz will play a dumb shot 8/10 times in those situation. Has been the case for a while.

Who is not playing "dumb" today?

 

[dhump]

They're not even being subtle about it, someone needs to put forth an inquiry for his match in all seriousness.

I dont like the sight of it and honestly this happened after some times...Pakistan use to do this more often before, but we didnt saw this effor in some time now.

 

[uberkoen]

Azhar ali should retire from ODI.. We need a good Agressive Captain, who doesnt play test matches

Why? Because aggressive players don't play test matches? What sort of logic is this?

 

[MMHS]

Somehow, Wahab needs to reach 200...... it 'll be a closer match.

 

[hussain.r97]

Shot Wahab. A few more needed.

 

[#GreenRoars]

Need to score 200+ here and we can still do something with the ball.

 

[zabalestmsm]

When Wahab bats aggressively he clicks more often! The defensive Wahab mostly fails!

 

[uberkoen]

C'mon Wahab get us to 200

 

[marlonbrowndo]

Why did they take a single??

 

[hussain.r97]

Someone needs to make him really really mad again, then we could win

 

[jusarrived]

Pak will defend this & quite easily imo .

 

[marlonbrowndo]

That was a no ball

 

[MMHS]

If Irfan doesn't survive these 2 balls, he shouldn't play ODI.

 

[uberkoen]

I found the problem.

Mohsin: "9 times I click to open Cricinfo and each time a player gone, unlucky."

It's this guy. He should just stop opening cricinfo.

 

[Big Mac]

You seem to have comprehension issues so I have bolded my points above.
If a Captain can get the plaudits for wins and leading his team well then the reverse should work too.

Babar is an opener and he was moved to his natural position, Sarfraz pushed up to provide some impetus, what else doesn't make sense about the batting order?

Chopping and changing is the captain's fault but not the selectors?

Not to mention that I bet you'd be one of the people moaning that the team tactics aren't flexible enough if they used the same batting order in every game.

 

[#GreenRoars]

Wasn't a no ball?

 

[uberkoen]

Pak will defend this & quite easily imo .

There's a fine line between being a fan and being delusional and you just crossed it.

 

[#GreenRoars]

If Irfan doesn't survive these 2 balls, he shouldn't play ODI.

Now grant him ODI status.

 

[Executioner]

I think teams like zimbabwe , ireland and afghanistan will have a good chance against pakistan in ODIs , we lack quality in both batting and bowling in odis. We can play waiting game in these conditions in test cricket but in odi cricket we are pushed and we break easily.

Maybe win a few here and there but otherwise Pakistan should win regularly.

Just that there is too much of a difference between lower tier teams and top 8

 

[EngrOmair]

Just tuned in to watch the match, saw the score when Hafeez and Sarfaraz were at crease. What the hell has just happened here

 

[hussain.r97]

Wasn't a no ball?

Thank goodness, the less Irfan faces the better.

 

[uberkoen]

Unleash your wrath Wahab!

 

[Pakpak]

Babar is an opener and he was moved to his natural position, Sarfraz pushed up to provide some impetus, what else doesn't make sense about the batting order?

Chopping and changing is the captain's fault but not the selectors?

Less said about selectors the better, but a captain should show some cojones when it comes to selection too. Misbah had say in selection, so not far fetched to think Azhar doesn;t

As for the batting order, you don't think its an issue that every match this series we have meddled around?

 

[Ahson8]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">They must think we are all stupid.....</p>— Michael Vaughan (@MichaelVaughan) <a href="https://twitter.com/MichaelVaughan/status/666617539640885250">November 17, 2015</a></blockquote>
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Something to read here.

I think Vaughan is spot on here. Spot on!

 

[hussain.r97]

Just tuned in to watch the match, saw the score when Hafeez and Sarfaraz were at crease. What the hell has just happened here

Tune out, trust me

 

[Betterpolo]

I feel, the wicket is lot slower & there could be a bit spongy bounce - 4 players hold out at line on a 60 metre ground is not common. I think, this match is still lot closer than we think - if Malik can guide the tail to 220, it 'll be tough for ENG to chase against 3 spinners. But, having said that, it shows how dumb PAK batting strategy was today - could have walked past 260, which I think would have been more than enough.

Exactly! Slow pitch but not much movement or pace from England's bowlers. Sensible rotation for 40 overs plus a 10 over launch would do it. Traditional maybe but they should play to the conditions. It suits England to chase when they know they don't need to accelerate as they just drift into Test match mode.

 

[taqi]

i guess pakistan should have revised their target mid innings 240 would have been wining

 

[#GreenRoars]

Come on Wahab, need to cross 200

 

[marlonbrowndo]

Just play a lofted cover drive wahab