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Said it a long time ago he’s just a flash in the pan poor version of Jaiswal
Imran nazir has a few match winning once in a life time innings that can't be replicated though? He was basically a more inconstant version of fakhar zaman aka a one hit wonder but when he did perform 1 to 25 games they were match winning.Looking like this generation's Imran Nazir. No doubting he has plenty of flair, but he has same failings as Haider Ali. No idea how to pick his shots or how to avoid field placings.
If Usman comes in the team, it should be in place of Azam Khan. I think we may try Fakhar Zaman with Saim Ayub as the openers so they both can go in the powerplay. With Babar and Rizwan, Saim has to take most of the responsibility to score quick runs.Too many chances and babar doesn't even trust him with the ball either.
Usman comes in for him.
No thanks, Saim has consistently failed.If Usman comes in the team, it should be in place of Azam Khan. I think we may try Fakhar Zaman with Saim Ayub as the openers so they both can go in the powerplay. With Babar and Rizwan, Saim has to take most of the responsibility to score quick runs.
M.Haris is even worse than him.Time to dump this overhyped atrocious terrible player.
He is a nothing player.
Mohammad haris instead of him would have been much better.
Uhh kinda disagree.My gripe is this, Saim Ayubi has just come around now right and I agree, he’s getting out doing the same thing. But what’s the difference between him and Riswan in that regard? Riswan only has one shot to; the hoik to cow corner and he been playing the same way for almost half a decade!
Ayubi’s head needs clearing but there is a higher ceiling somewhere, whereas for Mr. Ris, he’s only going one way, and that’s plunging to new lows each time that no good SOB is out there
Uhh kinda disagree.
Saim ayub has lost all confidence. I saw how he was playing today. He's under pressure and I think he knows his career is finished after the cup
Neither of these 2 get out doing the same thing. Saim has gotten out numerous tines via top edges as well.What bit do you disagree with specifically dummy
do not insult Jaiswal even with his poor version , Jaiswal would be miles ahead of this clownSaid it a long time ago he’s just a flash in the pan poor version of Jaiswal
Neither of these 2 get out doing the same thing. Saim has gotten out numerous tines via top edges as well.
It's just quality bowlers bowl leg side to him cause they know he doesn't have power to clear and he'll play a lofted stroke.
But otherwise he's gotten out in various ways.
As for rizwan same story
i 100 percent guarantee you babar or rizwan on the other end are telling him to go all out while they keep the wicket on the other end. strategy normally applied in odi's when one batsmen is weaker than the other.bring him back when rizwan and babar retires
He scored 2(7) by going all out. Wonder what will he do if he plays conservativelyi 100 percent guarantee you babar or rizwan on the other end are telling him to go all out while they keep the wicket on the other end. strategy normally applied in odi's when one batsmen is weaker than the other.
he made 49 when he opened with harris, and he made 47 when he was playing with fakhar
all his other scores have been poor.
he needs to come in settle in before he starts going crazy
Gets the 'youngster' cushion. It's an age old Pakistani fantasy. Get a young player to hit a few sixes and he will be a darling.My question is, why do so many posters here want an experiment in progress to continue in a WC?
Sure, give all the chances you want in bi-laterals. But you want someone who is all set and delivers in a WC. Not someone who needs more chances to see if he is good.
Actually you’re right I take my statement back. He’s just another Imran Farhat won’t last. Just not cut out for the big leagueLol that's an insult to Jaiswal who atleast has a double century in test cricket vs England and a very powerful body of work over this Shodda
No way, Imran Farhat had already scored many more runs than him in his initial 20 innings in international cricket.Actually you’re right I take my statement back. He’s just another Imran Farhat won’t last. Just not cut out for the big league
How is this the solution to all problems Ramiz?In a post-match analysis on his YouTube channel following the 2nd T20I between England and Pakistan, Ramiz Raja said:
“First, Saim Ayub coming as an opener. I don’t think Pakistan should continue with Saim. He has been given too many chances and you have to do better in [international] cricket. He is undercooked. You need to revert to the opening pair of Mohammad Rizwan and Babar Azam because that is Pakistan’s strength and they understand each other’s game. The entire combination has been disturbed due to Saim.”
Atm problem is Saim, he needs to go back to basicsHow is this the solution to all problems Ramiz?
Saim is no problemAtm problem is Saim, he needs to go back to basics
Rambo raja knows the 170 baba & rizwan just about get will turn into 140 with walking wicket Ayub in the team.In a post-match analysis on his YouTube channel following the 2nd T20I between England and Pakistan, Ramiz Raja said:
“First, Saim Ayub coming as an opener. I don’t think Pakistan should continue with Saim. He has been given too many chances and you have to do better in [international] cricket. He is undercooked. You need to revert to the opening pair of Mohammad Rizwan and Babar Azam because that is Pakistan’s strength and they understand each other’s game. The entire combination has been disturbed due to Saim.”
No. Haris is much better than this hack. Haris changed the fortune of Pakistan in the previous world T20.M.Haris is even worse than him.
20 games , zero performance and getting out in single digit putting pressure on the middle order.Saim is no problem
He is the right kind of player in the right position.
If he’s going to be replaced, it’s going to have to be with the right kind of player for that position. Is Babar Azam that player? Is Rizwan that player?
Putting Usman to open will fail his career I believe. Not the chance that a rookie like him would thrive in this part of the world and that too against Archer.I think we pull the plug now. Hate doing this. But it’s already too late, and his replacement won’t be given a fair shot anymore, Saim has already had one of the easiest extended lots of chances at opening and it hasn’t worked.
Let Usman open and make it clear to him that whatever happens he has the remaining two T20s in England and all of the World Cup as opener, no matter if he fails.
Saud Shakeel, Agha Salman, Haris , Tayyab tahir, Shan Masood , khawaja nafay are a good bunch.Don't think Saim has had a season where he has been among the top domestic run scorers, he didn't even impress or top the charts during our Shaheen tours or Emerging tournaments. He has been selected and backed purely on the basis of potential. He needs to go back and actually earn a spot in the team now.
He actually had a pretty good 23/24 QEA performance in first class which was one of the reasons he rose up for national selection. Despite that, he’s been an abject failure at the international level.Don't think Saim has had a season where he has been among the top domestic run scorers, he didn't even impress or top the charts during our Shaheen tours or Emerging tournaments. He has been selected and backed purely on the basis of potential. He needs to go back and actually earn a spot in the team now.
He actually had a pretty good 23/24 QEA performance in first class which was one of the reasons he rose up for national selection. Despite that, he’s been an abject failure at the international level.
It’s not fair against him, but I’d try it now. Saim has had enough chances. There’s a chance it will succeed, he was so good in PSL, way better than the rest.Putting Usman to open will fail his career I believe. Not the chance that a rookie like him would thrive in this part of the world and that too against Archer.
Wouldn’t a poor uncompetitive domestic structure do the opposite? It wouldn’t exploit the weaknesses of players, it would mask them.That's indicative of a poor uncompetitive domestic structure where the weaknesses of the players are exploited.
Wouldn’t a poor uncompetitive domestic structure do the opposite? It wouldn’t exploit the weaknesses of players, it would mask them.
Please provide a list of matches that Imad has won for Pakistan over the years to be labeled as a 'match winner'.A lot of people posting emotionally on this post.
Yes, Saim has been poor.
But he is young and being young and carefree should give you chances galore unless absolutely certain there is no hope.
If you want to drop Saim, then better drop Rizwan first or Babar first because we already know their ceiling.
I would give unlimited chances to a young colt rather than a veteran horse on his last legs.
The fans in Pakistan have no idea how to develop a player and thats why they settle for mediocrity.
A mediocre Rizwan plus average Babar find flavor every month over Match winner Fakhar or Imad simply because our fans thoughts are mediocre too.
FakharPlease provide a list of matches that Imad has won for Pakistan over the years to be labeled as a 'match winner'.
Honestly, I'd like to have both Ayub and Haris in the XI. Both have potential imo and I hope Kirsten will be able to groom them.oh bhai I am really done with this guy... dont know how many matches he will get more even after the pathetic performance, Mohammad Haris was a way better option than this fluke.
Looking bad now - all this could change in the World Cup
He is beginning to look like Asif Ali. England had him all worked out. They set a trap for his favorite shot and he was gone with no resistance. Saim plays his hook shot without much control and he takes his eye of the ball. It won't work against top class sides. He needs to improve his batting greatly.Looking bad now - all this could change in the World Cup
Bro he isn't talented enough.Saim has the talent but that is pointless if he doesn't use his brain and make use of the opportunities he is getting. He is naturally aggressive but that doesn't mean he should try to hit every ball. He needs to understand he is not a power hitter and doesn't have the strength that openers like Warner or Salt do. He never muscles or overhits the ball and with his physique that means unless he has timed it well it won't clear the boundary. Therefore, he needs to wait for the right ball rather than trying to hit everything. Secondly, he is becoming too predictable with his no-look and square leg heaves. Bowlers have worked out that weakness and his impulsive urge to play at everything in that region. Most bowlers will gladly concede 1-2 boundaries knowing it will eventually get them his wicket. Again he has the talent, it is now up to him to use his brain and put a price on his wicket.
I disagree. I rate him as the top young LOI talent in Pakistan. What that says about the state of the talent pool is a different debate. The issue is how he translates that talent into performance. And that is not something specific to him. Its a malaise that generally affects young Pakistani players. They just don't seem to have the hunger to learn and to grind their way to success and try looking for shortcuts (but then why just blame them that has become a national trait) and start thinking of themselves as superstars without having achieved anything of note.Bro he isn't talented enough.
He's another marketing gimmick, in the same way Bobby was a marketing gimmick with King memes until the babar vs Kohli narrative got exposed.
The narrative for saim is that he can be some sort of future superstar for Pakistan aka a natural replacement for fakhar and that he's a classy player who can be the next saeed anwar for Pakistan or maybe sanath jaysuria or de villers etc etc.
Again it's all marketing gimmicks, claiming saim is a natural replacement for Fakhar is like claiming Red Bull gives you wings.
My question is, why do so many posters here want an experiment in progress to continue in a WC?
Sure, give all the chances you want in bi-laterals. But you want someone who is all set and delivers in a WC. Not someone who needs more chances to see if he is good.
Doesn’t look like it. The guy doesn’t have enough power to clear square boundaries against pacers on faster tracks,Probably the slow surfaces in West Indies might suit his style.
I don't think so. Its even more difficult to time the ball in Caribbean conditions and Sam is even struggling on flat surfaces.Probably the slow surfaces in West Indies might suit his style.
That is fine, but that does not answer my question.Fakhar
Imad
Amir
The only proper players you have in this squad
Shaheen 4th
Why should I have to breakdown anything? How can you not see that if this guy (Imad) doesn’t bowl 4 overs of less than 26 runs, and picking up 1-2 wickets doesn’t put the breaks on the opposition isn’t vital to his team’s cause…how can I prove anything to someone that doesn’t value this?That is fine, but that does not answer my question.
Amir (in his prime, not the washed up merchant he is today), Fakhar and Shaheen are match-winners. That doesn't require any explanations.
However, I'm interested to see what Imad has done across his 127 international appearances so far to be labeled a match-winner.
Can you please provide a breakdown of the matches that Imad has won for Pakistan to earn the title of a match-winner?
So I see that you made a claim but cannot back it up and now you are deflecting.Why should I have to breakdown anything? How can you not see that if this guy (Imad) doesn’t bowl 4 overs of less than 26 runs, and picking up 1-2 wickets doesn’t put the breaks on the opposition isn’t vital to his team’s cause…how can I prove anything to someone that doesn’t value this?
So Pakistan should just get rid of him?So I see that you made a claim but cannot back it up and now you are deflecting.
Imad has done nothing in his international career to justify the label of a match-winner. Therefore, I am not surprised that you cannot provide a list.
I would argue that a bowler who has taken 0 wickets vs India in international cricket, and averages 60+ with the ball vs the top 5 sides in ODIs while playing as one of the 5 main bowlers, is one of the biggest match losers Pakistan has ever produced.