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[Report] ICC informs the PCB that India has refused to travel to Pakistan for the ICC Champions Trophy 2025 [Updated Post #418]

Why can't Pakistan not play the annual India games organized by the BCCI in the disguise of an Asia Cup or other ICC tournament? If they do it even once, this story will move to its next chapter.
 
mb3407 said:
So take it or leave it by BCCI.

What will icc/pcb do now?
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I’ll wait for a reliable source. I've seen Indians doing Bhangra in this thread many times, and the very next moment, they're phusss. loving the fake bravado from the Indians

Some of the events Indians have been celebrating with Bhangra and then gone phussss the next day

  • Champions Trophy shifting to South Africa
  • Champions Trophy shifting to UAE
  • Champions Trophy shifted to India without Pakistan
  • Champions Trophy will proceed without Pakistan (only for Indian broadcasters to later cry about about missing Pakistan vs. India games)
  • PCB given 24 hours to accept the hybrid model, or the Champions Trophy will be taken away from them
  • Jay Shah will use the ICC POWER to show Pakistan whose the boss
  • PCB accepted the hybrid model without gaining anything in return
  • PCB accepted the hybrid model and renamed it
  • PCB accepted the hybrid model for three years (but India is co-hosting anyway with Sri Lanka)
Keep it coming—we’re loving the Indian comedians in this thread :D

after all that talk seriously need to question India's power and control at the moment they are looking like clowns :cool:
 
BCCI and all the other ICC members had signed off on the ICC security report which was prepared by a third party. They cannot cite Security as an issue now. If the case goes to CAS PCB will have a strong case. BCCI previously cited that they don't have govt approval to tour Pakistan, the Indian Foreign office commented that the decision to not tour Pakistan is BCCI's primarily, the BCCI is refusing to provide an official document showing that the Indian government is refusing to allow the Indian team to tour Pakistan.
 
Is Jay Shah going to debate himself in the mirror to solve this?

The BCCI and ICC's conflict of interest is unrivaled - nothing like it in the entire world of international sport. The only thing the BCCI (and Indian posters on this thread who strangely are so fascinated by Pakistan Cricket that they spend their entire day on PakPassion bashing Pakistan...[but this is a topic for another day]) have going for them is fluffs and posturing. Keep in mind, these are the same jokers who have predicted the "death of Pakistan Cricket" over and over again for the last 15 years, to no avail.

As Mike Tyson said, everyone has a plan until they get punched in the mouth. BCCI has been exposed on every level with this CT farce. PCB has stuck in there long enough, and see this through to till the end, and not fold. Let's see if India really is as important to world cricket as much as they think they are...I'm sure the world can't get enough of India-Aus-Eng / IPL on repeat for the next 30483 years...
 
My honest opinion, if Indian foreign office are saying that the decision to not visit Pakistan is BCCI's primarily,
then Indian cricket team are definitely pooping bricks.

Don't think they are ready to face Sajid don and Nauman chacha on Pakistan's spin pitches after they saw what happened to England and this decision to not tour Pakistan only came after that series.

India losing in Pakistan will be humiliating for India and the Indian public will eat their players alive. so I agree with BBCI their will be security issue but not in Pakistan, it will be in India for the Indian cricket team.
 
BCCI can influence the ICC and ICC members with their money, IPL promises. But can CAS actually act independently and rule on the actual merits of the case? What the PCB proposed to BCCI and the ICC was fair and flexible, it is the BCCI which is egoistically trying to flex its muscles and humiliate the PCB as much as possible.
 
The fact that no final decision has been made so far means that PCB is not ready for a compromise and BCCI is not able to get their demands met. Gotta Respect PCB and Naqvi for holding their ground.
 
Hybrid or otherwise, is this a ploy to generate more hype..?

gone completely off this tournament now and so will other Pakistanis probably.
 
Savak said:
BCCI can influence the ICC and ICC members with their money, IPL promises. But can CAS actually act independently and rule on the actual merits of the case? What the PCB proposed to BCCI and the ICC was fair and flexible, it is the BCCI which is egoistically trying to flex its muscles and humiliate the PCB as much as possible.
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you should look up the term Jurisdiction.


>>>>Not all sports adhere to the jurisdiction of CAS, with notable exceptions being the Fédération Internationale de l’Automobile (FIA), The International Cricket Council (ICC) and the International Basketball Federation (FIBA).<<<<
 
Savak said:
BCCI can influence the ICC and ICC members with their money, IPL promises. But can CAS actually act independently and rule on the actual merits of the case? What the PCB proposed to BCCI and the ICC was fair and flexible, it is the BCCI which is egoistically trying to flex its muscles and humiliate the PCB as much as possible.
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ICC doesn't accept the jurisdiction of CAS.
 
PCB is on a roll. They have not just defeated the BCCI but have humiliated them. This might just turn out to be a pivotal moment in the history of the game with the world cricketing powers aligning behind PCB in the new world order as BCCI finds itself isolated and helpless for the first time.
 
Bhaijaan said:
PCB is on a roll. They have not just defeated the BCCI but have humiliated them. This might just turn out to be a pivotal moment in the history of the game with the world cricketing powers aligning behind PCB in the new world order as BCCI finds itself isolated and helpless for the first time.
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You're playing them like a fiddle, freelance. :ashwin
 
Rajdeep said:
I am not happy and I have said multiple times that I am with PCB on this. This is simply a bullying tactics by BCCI.

What I am saying is, PCB will never get a better opportunity to test this theory that without ind v pak game the Icc Events will be a loss occuring event. So they must remain firm and clearly say no to hybrid model and see how far it can go.

As a cricket fan, I have zero interest now in CT anyway after all this drama. I am eagerly looking forward to next ICC event in Eng whenever it will be.
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My sentiments are same. BCCI, by its bullying is degrading itself further. The PCB has every right to stand up as no other board is as affected as PCB is. Let us hope the PCB doesn't succumb to the ICC pressure.
 
Former Pakistan cricket team pacer Shoaib Akhtar has said the Indian cricket team is dying to play in Pakistan but they are not getting clearance:

"India is dying more than Pakistan to play in Pakistan. Virat Kohli would probably be dying to play in Pakistan. I know what is happening. If India vs Pakistan lands, TV rights sponsorships is going to hit the roof. Let me tell you tell you. They are not coming because of the government,"
 
Cricket Warrior said:
Former Pakistan cricket team pacer Shoaib Akhtar has said the Indian cricket team is dying to play in Pakistan but they are not getting clearance:

"India is dying more than Pakistan to play in Pakistan. Virat Kohli would probably be dying to play in Pakistan. I know what is happening. If India vs Pakistan lands, TV rights sponsorships is going to hit the roof. Let me tell you tell you. They are not coming because of the government,"
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Some of the members of ICT had concerns which thay laid to bcci and then this happened.

So I am not sure about what Shoaib is saying
 
Watching the Pakistani Sports Reporters today. It appears they have given up and have resigned to the fact that the BCCI will get what it wants. The PCB has a tough decision to make i.e. either accept the Hybrid Model being offered by the ICC, BCCI or to have the entire tournament taken out of Pakistan completely. The sports reporters are now pleading with the PCB to act sensibly and accept whatever games they can host in Pakistan and to use it as a stepping stone for the future.
 
Bhaijaan said:
PCB is on a roll. They have not just defeated the BCCI but have humiliated them. This might just turn out to be a pivotal moment in the history of the game with the world cricketing powers aligning behind PCB in the new world order as BCCI finds itself isolated and helpless for the first time.
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I think BCCI and India are already becoming more and more isolated. People/entities put up with it due to financial interests.
 
PCB did all it could.

And for the domestic audience they can claim they fought hard.

But it was impossible to let the whole tournament move out of Pakistan and they have accepted the hybrid model without any preconditions.

Just gotta wait a few more days for this announcement.
 
DeadlyVenom said:
PCB has pulled the rug from right under India here, only a fool would deny it.

On what basis can the PCB's stance be rejected, given they are just asking for equal treatment?

The only basis it can be rejected is $$$$$, so Indian topi drama of security, Mumbai revenge, etc, has been burned to the ashes and shown as just petty muscle flexing against Pakistan.

I get that you guys are happy with such a demonstration of "strength", but any neutral can see exactly what is happening, drama script has been shredded, and thats why I like the route the PCB has taken.
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Problem is that Pakistan fans / Media's/ experts are think that both india and Pakistan has the same reputations as an nation

If they can understand that there is huge difference between them .after that they will not say we will demand hybrid models just because India wanted with them.


Hope you gets what is I'm trying to say because if i explained everything in details than discussion can go off topic.

Pakistan perception as nation's in the World is very bad compared to india when its comes to security.

:kp
 
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Hawkeye said:
PCB did all it could.

And for the domestic audience they can claim they fought hard.

But it was impossible to let the whole tournament move out of Pakistan and they have accepted the hybrid model without any preconditions.

Just gotta wait a few more days for this announcement.
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Brutal by the BCCI, they imposed their decision on the PCB and gave nothing in return. This is tantamount to BCCI telling the PCB "Your only compensation is that you get to live".

Mohsin Naqvi will have a hard time selling this to the domestic audience especially if he got nothing in return from the ICC and BCCI. The PML N could use this as an excuse to have him removed from the PCB.
 
Devadwal said:
Problem is that Pakistan fans / Media's/ experts are think that both india and Pakistan has the same reputations as an nation

If they can understand that there is huge difference between them .after that they will not say we will demand hybrid models just because India wanted with them.

American president hasnt visited for pakistan since 2006 but pakistan PM / President's were / are visited there frequently. At the aame time others nation's President / PM comes and go to Pakistan.

Hope you gets what is I'm trying to say because if i explained everything in details than discussion can go off topic.

Pakistan perception as nation's in the World is very bad compared to india when its comes to security.

:kp
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You may have a point if the other nations had expressed their intentions not to come.

For now, it appears they are happy, so I'm not sure why you are bringing up Joe Biden.

Your argument here is worse than BCCI :kp
 
DeadlyVenom said:
You may have a point if the other nations had expressed their intentions not to come.

For now, it appears they are happy, so I'm not sure why you are bringing up Joe Biden.

Your argument here is worse than BCCI :kp
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Connect your first and second sentence and you'll get your answer why is india not going there while others are going .

Lets me again ask you very simple question , what is the actual reason for pakistan to demand the hybrid model ?

Think and then answer because my next question is already ready . i already know what will be your answer .so think twice
:kp
 
Hawkeye said:
PCB did all it could.

And for the domestic audience they can claim they fought hard.

But it was impossible to let the whole tournament move out of Pakistan and they have accepted the hybrid model without any preconditions.

Just gotta wait a few more days for this announcement.
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Hybrid model without preconditions would be timid.

Pakistan should include preconditions if it is a hybrid model.
 
Some Sr sport journalists are very confident that the PCB has a strong case this time. In case the BCCI says they are unsatisfied with the security in Pakistan, the PCB will highlight the fact all ICC members including the BCCI signed off on the security assessment and reports of the third parties in Pakistan. The PCB will highlight the likes of England, Australia, New Zealand, South Africa, Zimbabwe, Sri Lanka, Bangladesh have all toured Pakistan without any issues and even many PSL seasons have been held in Pakistan without issues.

If India highlights the ongoing political situation in Pakistan, the terror attacks against Chinese, the situation in Baluchistan and KPK, the PCB will highlight the fact that all visiting teams get Presidential level security and after 2009, all teams visiting Pakistan have been provided Presidential Level security and there have been no security issues for visiting teams again.

The PCB will also highlight in court and bring it in writing that they have official Govt of Pakistan approval to respond to the BCCI *** for Tat now with no compromises i.e. if India refuses to come to Pakistan then the Pakistani Govt will refuse permission to the PCB to go to India therefore a Hybrid model is the only solution to satisfy both countries in ICC events.
 
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Savak said:
According to a sports reporter, the ICC is registered in UAE and British Virgin Islands, in the event the ICC and BCCI bulldoze the PCB, the PCB has full intention of going into litigation and implementing a stay order against the ICC while the case will be ongoing.
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Name? Sports reporter in you street corner? Any legal background? Or is this DRC and mou all over again
 
Savak said:
According to a sports reporter, the ICC is registered in UAE and British Virgin Islands, in the event the ICC and BCCI bulldoze the PCB, the PCB has full intention of going into litigation and implementing a stay order against the ICC while the case will be ongoing.
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Also uae and British Virgin Islands courts have a strong enforcement power……
 
emranabbas said:
I’ll wait for a reliable source. I've seen Indians doing Bhangra in this thread many times, and the very next moment, they're phusss. loving the fake bravado from the Indians

Some of the events Indians have been celebrating with Bhangra and then gone phussss the next day

  • Champions Trophy shifting to South Africa
  • Champions Trophy shifting to UAE
  • Champions Trophy shifted to India without Pakistan
  • Champions Trophy will proceed without Pakistan (only for Indian broadcasters to later cry about about missing Pakistan vs. India games)
  • PCB given 24 hours to accept the hybrid model, or the Champions Trophy will be taken away from them
  • Jay Shah will use the ICC POWER to show Pakistan whose the boss
  • PCB accepted the hybrid model without gaining anything in return
  • PCB accepted the hybrid model and renamed it
  • PCB accepted the hybrid model for three years (but India is co-hosting anyway with Sri Lanka)
Keep it coming—we’re loving the Indian comedians in this thread :D

after all that talk seriously need to question India's power and control at the moment they are looking like clowns :cool:
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India/BCCI has no power. This much is obvious.

Power is not something you flaunt like India desperately does, power works in the shadows and leaves something at the table.

The last display of power from India ended up in an implosion of epic proportions - WC23.

Indian will never learn, but this inability is a great benefit for humanity.
 
India just needs five minutes to prove there is big security issues for indian player's in pakistan .

Those sport's reporter are lying to the Pakistan people's like their earlier claims about" Mere ghar ke pass bhai ka ghar hai".

They are thinking that there is no security issue for india . Other team's were touring Pakistan still those time australia and England did not toured Pakistan why?

Every team's has different threats perspection . Pakistan will lose this case in just 5 min. Lol

INDIA can show 5 minutes speech ( in a rally where he was threatened india) of UN designated terrorist Masood Azhar who wants to attack indian citizen's.

:kp
Savak said:
According to a sports reporter, the ICC is registered in UAE and British Virgin Islands, in the event the ICC and BCCI bulldoze the PCB, the PCB has full intention of going into litigation and implementing a stay order against the ICC while the case will be ongoing.
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Biases and all aside, there hasn’t been a better time to be a Pakistani than right now during the last few decades. The way PCB is dominating the BCCI tactically, Bharatiya fans never imagined such a day would come. Mohsin Maqvi must get a statue outside PCB headquarter for pulling off the greatest fight back in PCB history.
 
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