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Re: Lahore Dynamite - Umar Akmal: Mega Discussion Thread

Pete Rose said:
And the false expectations begin...
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As much as I like Umar I have to agree with you. Let the kid play don't hype him otherwise all you get is disappointment.

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JibranAnsari said:
He will never be a top player , but the asad fanboys have balls to criticize someone else. Odd.
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Asad has never been a player of quality of UA. UA is currently the most quality batsman of Pakistan right now.
Sometimes people including team management do not do justice with him and sometimes he does not do justice with his talent.
 
He's obviously not the most talented batsman going around. There are much more young talented batsman than him.
 
This man not have any sort of temperament to stay at wicket left alone quality player.

A blind slogger absolute no composure.
 
His situation matches Ahmad Shahzad's.

Supremely talented, but unrefined and inconsistent. I hope someone like Inzi works on his batting to instill in some composure.

We'd be better off honing in whatever little true talent we have found at this point in time, instead of letting them go to waste.
 
Don't over criticize him. He is very important to us in LOIs. Perhaps the single most important player.
 
Its a myth that he's inconsistent.

You can't be inconsistent and average 38 SR of 85.

BEST BATSMAN IN PAK.
 
Bullet Drive said:
Its a myth that he's inconsistent.

You can't be inconsistent and average 38 SR of 85.

BEST BATSMAN IN PAK.
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You make it sound like 38 is the next Viv average.

An average of 38 shows just what he is.

Inconsistent.

Lol.
 
Being inconsistent is still better than being consistently bad, like a lot of our players.

Good thing he turns up when we need it, unlike Shahzad.
 
Re: Lahore Dynamite - Umar Akmal: Mega Discussion Thread

menace2society said:
38 average for a 23 year old is excellent.

By 26/27 his average will be in the 40s.
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Didn't know age is directly proportional to average. By that logic, Umar will become Don Bradman when he becomes 30+.
 
Bullet Drive said:
Its a myth that he's inconsistent.

You can't be inconsistent and average 38 SR of 85.

BEST BATSMAN IN PAK.
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He has enough talent and skill to average above the 40+ mark thats what they mean he can accomplish much more than he already does if he bats sensibly.
 
he does make runs regularly, but he also flops in the real pressure game with alarming regularity as well.
 
Re: Lahore Dynamite - Umar Akmal: Mega Discussion Thread

menace2society said:
He will end up a better ODI batsman than Younis Khan and a better test player than our beloved Shafiq.
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He is already better than YK in ODI which is not really that hard to become. Shafiq has played some clutch knocks especially against the #1 Test side. UA has become a more sensible player but I doubt he can play some of the knocks that Asad has played. Still, he will end up being better than Shafiq not that it's hard to achieve.
 
i dont ssee why all these shafiq and akmal threads have been bumped, let save it for when the games start
 
AZ said:
he does make runs regularly, but he also flops in the real pressure game with alarming regularity as well.
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WHAT?!?!

He's the one that turns up.

Look at Asia Cup final. Look at innings vs AFG under immense pressure. Look at knock vs AUS in T20 wc.
 
So far tho, he's going to have a career similar to Eoin Morgan- That isn't special to be fair. However, Umar is a better test batsman than ODI so I don't see why he shouldn't be in the Test side but if he's being treated how he's currently being treated- We have a Pakistani Morgan(or JP Duminy or maybe even Yuvraj Singh level). He's being treated as a LOI specialist.
 
Re: Lahore Dynamite - Umar Akmal: Mega Discussion Thread

Bullet Drive said:
WHAT?!?!

He's the one that turns up.

Look at Asia Cup final. Look at innings vs AFG under immense pressure. Look at knock vs AUS in T20 wc.
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Look at his knock vs India in T20 WC. Look at his knock vs Windies in the same WC. :jf
 
leatherface58 said:
Look at his knock vs India in T20 WC. Look at his knock vs Windies in the same WC. :jf
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Look at his performance against SA in the previous T20 WC where Pakistan had to chase 133 but collapsed.

It was Umar Akmal who led the way with Umar Gul and stayed at the crease until the end.
 
Mamoon said:
For a Pakistani batsmen these days, averaging 38 is like averaging 48.
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The question is if it is consistent or not?

The poster said he has consistency.

I would venture to disagree.

He fires but is inconsistent at his best.

I don't care if averaging 38 is like averaging 98 for Pakistan.

No one asked him to be dropped.
 
Dr_Bassim said:
The question is if it is consistent or not?

The poster said he has consistency.

I would venture to disagree.

He fires but is inconsistent at his best.

I don't care if averaging 38 is like averaging 98 for Pakistan.

No one asked him to be dropped.
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I won't say he's consistent. A batsman who keeps getting 40-45 will average in the 40s, but he won't be adding much value to the team in the long run.

Umar needs to score more 70s and 80s, and even hundreds. He has shown improvement on that front though. Has scored almost 2 hundreds and a 70 in his last 6 knocks.
 
To many fake threads on Umar going on here, time to bump the real thread.

On a serious note, over 5 years ago I started this thread and wrote it will be nice to see his progress. And I must say it has been disappointing. He simply has not shown patience, stamina, temperament and professionalism required.

But he is still young and my prayers are with him. InshaAllsh he will come back stronger and I hope when I see back on this thread in another 5 years time there will be a joyful bump InshaAllah.
 
Umar akmal

Ghoshtbuster said:
He is a very aggressive batsman. Made an impact in his first season, but then fell off the radar.

I like his "look".
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UMAR AKMAL is just another Shahid Afridi in the making.No sense of the situation.

Recently,in an interview with an Indian channel he said "I want to be remembered as a legend" but his performance belies this. He has immense talent but he needs proper coaching and guidance.

I urge the cricket followers to shun this attitude of thinking of a batsman as "Successful" or "Great" if he just smashes the ball and scores 2 runs in one ball. This is just "GILLI DUNDA" ,not cricket.
 
Zero brains with a lot talent...Doesnt work

Id rather have a lot of brain and hard work with less talent
 
Scores of 42, 10, 27, 10, 4, 11, 21, 0, 1, 18, 2 - thats 6 FC matches, 11 innings , 146 runs @14

His FC average hat used to be 50+ is down to 45+

Not good from Akmal. Needs to turn it around in the ODIs and T20s vs NZ, else with his current form may not even go to the WC.
 
cricketindiafan said:
Scores of 42, 10, 27, 10, 4, 11, 21, 0, 1, 18, 2 - thats 6 FC matches, 11 innings , 146 runs @14

His FC average hat used to be 50+ is down to 45+

Not good from Akmal. Needs to turn it around in the ODIs and T20s vs NZ, else with his current form may not even go to the WC.
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his game has deteriorated soo much that he does not have the technique to fall back on when he is in poor form when your go to shots are hoick over mid wicket you will struggle to get out of a rut.
 
Xoib said:
his game has deteriorated soo much that he does not have the technique to fall back on when he is in poor form when your go to shots are hoick over mid wicket you will struggle to get out of a rut.
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Unfortunate but true. He showed glimpses of learning and developing into a reliable finisher a couple of years ago and then just went back to his old ways.
 
nice to see him showing respect for Phil Hughes on twitter.
 
Bat him at #4, sandwiched between Fawad and Misbah and I expect him to do well. Also let him play his natural game even if he does throw away his wicket by doing so.
 
If this lad bats 10% of the hard work of what Phil Hughes had before his untimely death:)() I'd give him a chance, but I just can't be bothered by a player that doesn't appreciate the talent he possesses. He constantly has fails to justify that God-given skill.
 
If this lad bats 10% of the hard work of what Phil Hughes had before his untimely death:)() I'd give him a chance, but I just can't be bothered by a player that doesn't appreciate the talent he possesses. He constantly has failed to justify that God-given skill.

fixed.
 
Sherlock said:
If this lad bats 10% of the hard work of what Phil Hughes had before his untimely death:)() I'd give him a chance, but I just can't be bothered by a player that doesn't appreciate the talent he possesses. He constantly has failed to justify that God-given skill.

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He is a very hard-worker. It just isn't coming together for him at the moment. Things change in cricket very quickly bro. Next year you may see him as our leading run scorer. He could win us the World Cup. Have faith in our boys please. Umar is good enough.
 
Bullet Drive said:
He is a very hard-worker. It just isn't coming together for him at the moment. Things change in cricket very quickly bro. Next year you may see him as our leading run scorer. He could win us the World Cup. Have faith in our boys please. Umar is good enough.
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It's not about supporting a player, it's about stating the obvious. Of course he's good enough, that's my issue. He has all the talent you need, but doesn't apply that in games. His recent domestic record has been abysmal too. Whatever he's doing isn't obviously working. It's not just the physical technique but his mental issues also.

He's going the same way Chandimal has gone, and he won't want to end up going any lower.
 
He has the tape ball mentality , if he can address this issue he can be of some use.

Whats the use of a lofted drive when you have the ability to play a grounded drive.

Why cross batted hoicks when you are so good straight down the ground.
Immense talent with zero application.
 
I'd say your argument would hold weight if he averaged 25 in ODI cricket but its not. Its close to 37 which is similar or even better then players around the world who do his role.
 
Thing is even if he scored hundreds in FC the same people would say its only FC cricket.

These cricketers can never win.
 
Bullet Drive said:
Thing is even if he scored hundreds in FC the same people would say its only FC cricket.

These cricketers can never win.
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His poor form in FC cricket has led for calls of him being dropped from Pakistan.

It would help if he bats well domestically, but he hasn't. He doesn't deserve to be in the team.

World Cup is only around the corner, yet he's picked the most inappropriate time to lose form.

No excuses, just say it as it is.
 
Sherlock said:
His poor form in FC cricket has led for calls of him being dropped from Pakistan.

It would help if he bats well domestically, but he hasn't. He doesn't deserve to be in the team.

World Cup is only around the corner, yet he's picked the most inappropriate time to lose form.

No excuses, just say it as it is.
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Yeah Umar has chosen to be out of form.

Every cricketer goes through poor form.

He will be back. Always raises his game in tournaments.
 
Bullet Drive said:
Yeah Umar has chosen to be out of form.

Every cricketer goes through poor form.

He will be back. Always raises his game in tournaments.
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No, you not getting what I'm saying.

I'm not saying he deliberately playing badly, but he should be doing his best to impress the selectors with the WC a few months away.

My issue is with his lack of kicking on when he's set. He'll give his wicket away when the team is on the verge of victory and he's done that too often. Now his clearly in poor form, so much so that he's been dropped again by his team. He's not a kid anymore, he should know his strengths and weaknesses.

Being out of touch is fine, if you know that player will come back and work even harder on his issues, but with Umar the issues are more than just form, it's up in the head.
 
All is not lost yet. He is still in his middle twenties. His performances have always been mercurial.

Even this Umar Akmal is good enough for limited over cricket.

But he certainly needs to think and change his mindset to be successful at the top level.
 
Lovely little innings today, a confidience booster for sure.
 
hope arises fresh yet again.
looked good....the excuses about batting low down the order and getting less deliveries does not apply if you can bat like this.
it also helps if there is less runrate or wicket pressure.
he should open in the odis
 
Only if had a brain :(

The only batsman whose batting i would sit back and enjoy if he stays long enough! :po:
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
What, being a finisher. Just as well Pakistan doesn't need one of those.
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Cameos, not long innings which is why I want him to open or bat at 6.

He needs license to attack to bring his A game. As an opener, he could be the ideal foil to Shehzad's defensive approach and he has been good at number 6.

Don't trust him as a finisher because he doesn't have a thinking brain and lacks the ability to pick and choose bowlers. Also, always perishes in the batting powerplay.

In my view, Sarfraz is the finisher we've lacked. Play him at 6 and make Umar open.
 
Mamoon said:
Cameos, not long innings which is why I want him to open or bat at 6.

He needs license to attack to bring his A game. As an opener, he could be the ideal foil to Shehzad's defensive approach and he has been good at number 6.

Don't trust him as a finisher because he doesn't have a thinking brain and lacks the ability to pick and choose bowlers. Also, always perishes in the batting powerplay.

In my view, Sarfraz is the finisher we've lacked. Play him at 6 and make Umar open.
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Sarfraz himself needs to show that he can close games out on a consistent basis, this is only one game. What he did superbly though was keep the scoreboard ticking which allowed Umar to ease into his game instead of having to come in and slog straight away while Misbah takes 4 balls to get a single.
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
Sarfraz himself needs to show that he can close games out on a consistent basis, this is only one game. What he did superbly though was keep the scoreboard ticking which allowed Umar to ease into his game instead of having to come in and slog straight away while Misbah takes 4 balls to get a single.
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What Sarfraz has done well is play to his strength. He doesn't try to bite more than he can chew and often gives due respect to the bowlers who give him a tough time. Today he tried to play out Milne rather than try and whack him around. Similarly in Tests he looks to target the spinners.

Umar on the other hand gets carried away after a couple of great shots and thinks of himself as invincible. Of course early days for Sarfraz as well but early signs are good. Knowing your limitations is vital at this level.
 
Akmal is one of the classiest players we have, and his instant ease at the crease shows it.

Our selectors made the right move by retaining confidence in Akmal while a lot of fans on this website said it was a bad decision. The selectors and fans should continue to have patience with Akmal and the selectors need to stop dropping him whenever he fails a few times. His most recent omission from the team was after he scored 46 and 5 against Australia. That is very harsh and short-sighted.
 
in_cutter said:
Should be made to open. Give him the freedom to attack.
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I think he could do the job as an opener, but for me he is one of the few batsmen we have who is capable of winning games at the death and giving us what we really need: a finisher. It takes a special batsman to score against death bowling which can sometimes be against the best of the opposition bowling under real pressure. I'm not sure we have too many options for that role.
 
There is no question over his inclusion in the ODI/T20 team. In spite of all his shortcomings, he's a very dynamic and proper modern day Limited Overs batsman.

The issue is with the hype - people comparing him to Tendulkar and Miandad and then Kohli when he's a Raina level player at best.
 
Mamoon said:
There is no question over his inclusion in the ODI/T20 team. In spite of all his shortcomings, he's a very dynamic and proper modern day Limited Overs batsman.

The issue is with the hype - people comparing him to Tendulkar and Miandad and then Kohli when he's a Raina level player at best.
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The issue is he is constantly being dropped when he is needed in the team. No one cares what random posters on Pak Passion think.
 
He has been a fixture in the team for 5 years and hasn't been dropped for a long period of time. An issue out of nothing.
 
Mamoon said:
He has been a fixture in the team for 5 years and hasn't been dropped for a long period of time. An issue out of nothing.
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Dropped for Champions Trophy when had 2 50 in last 4 innings.

Dropped for whole of SA ODI series(5 games) when had 2 50 in last 3 innings.

Dropped for final ODI vs Aus.
 
Miss those days when we had quality posters like Waqar Goraya and Mr Khan Ji on this forum.

Think its time I'm going to have to retire from PP.
 
Bullet Drive said:
Dropped for Champions Trophy when had 2 50 in last 4 innings.

Dropped for whole of SA ODI series(5 games) when had 2 50 in last 3 innings.

Dropped for final ODI vs Aus.
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Big deal, he has played 100 ODIs and 60 T20s already and he's only 24.

He will end up playing 300 ODIs and 150 T20s for Pakistan. No need of getting restless.

Don't expect a long and fruitful Test career though.
 
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