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Geordie Ahmed said:
Oh Arsenal, such a self inflicted result

Overall the better team with the better chances but find themselves about to lose
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Arsensl have been like this all December and now this game

Arteta deserves the sack if Arsenal go out early here
 
@Mamoon - that's what back up strikers do! Diaz with 2 goals

Let's see you defend Arteta and havertz after this shambles
 
It is actually great that Arsenal are out of the FA Cup. A needless distraction that is not the priority anymore.

Arsenal have won 4 FA Cups in the last 10 years and it did nothing for the club. Liverpool fluked it today after getting battered but it is good for Arsenal.

Liverpool can let the FA Cup distraction hamper their title charge while Arsenal can now regroup and fully focus on the only two competitions that matter and the define your season: the PL and the UCL.
 
As a neutral (though would have preferred Arsenal to win because knowing our luck we'll draw Liverpool away) that was frustrating to watch

Arsenal overall the better side and had the better chances but you knew the longer it went that Liverpool would win it

Liverpool do ride their luck in some games but can't fault their resilience, they somehow stay in and just have this belief that they'll win it
 
Mamoon said:
It is actually great that Arsenal are out of the FA Cup. A needless distraction that is not the priority anymore.

Arsenal have won 4 FA Cups in the last 10 years and it did nothing for the club. Liverpool fluked it today after getting battered but it is good for Arsenal.

Liverpool can let the FA Cup distraction hamper their title charge while Arsenal can now regroup and fully focus on the only two competitions that matter and the define your season: the PL and the UCL.
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If you think a toothless attack like Arsenals can mount a title challenge then you sure is deluded.

Unless a quality nine comes in, Arsenal are very predictable.
 
Mamoon said:
Inpatient and toxic fans like yourself never gave Havertz a chance and wrote him off before he kicked a ball for Arsenal.

After doing better than you thought he would, you have switched the goalposts to “he has not lived up to the price tag”

Please go back a few pages and read my post on this again. This is a cop-out because who sets the parameters? In fact, let me help you by quoting my post again:
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“Will not justify price tag” or “won’t live up to the price tag” are vague statements. It is a cop-out used by those who wrote him off and were very aggressive and hostile with their criticism before he had kicked a ball for Arsenal.

Havertz in the last month has clearly performed better than they expected him to so the narrative has changed from “he is terrible and he will never do anything” to “he blows hot n cold” and “he won’t justify his price tag”.

Who defines the parameters of price tag justification? Who decides the rules for when a player has justified a price tag or not.

As I said, it is an open-minded vague statement that can be applied as per your convenience and agenda.

If he scores X goals and Y assists, you can claim that he hasn’t justified his price tag because to do so, he should have scored X+5 goals and provided Y+5 assists.“

Don’t bring Babar, Imam and the cricket nonsense to this thread. Don’t pollute it please.
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🤡🤡 @Mamoon - havertz is reason Arsenal lost today, due to his inability do anything in front of goal
 
Mamoon said:
“Kiwior should play ahead of Zinchenko”

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@topspin
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It's your boy Havertz who lost us the game. Don't talk nonsense.

You deserve this humiliation. Imagine having the audacity to demand an apology for a couple of games. Let's also not forget "He's lived up to price tag".
 
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Amjid Javed said:
🤡🤡 @Mamoon - havertz is reason Arsenal lost today, due to his inability do anything in front of goal
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Thank you.
Mamoon said:
Inpatient and toxic fans like yourself never gave Havertz a chance and wrote him off before he kicked a ball for Arsenal.

After doing better than you thought he would, you have switched the goalposts to “he has not lived up to the price tag”

Please go back a few pages and read my post on this again. This is a cop-out because who sets the parameters? In fact, let me help you by quoting my post again:
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“Will not justify price tag” or “won’t live up to the price tag” are vague statements. It is a cop-out used by those who wrote him off and were very aggressive and hostile with their criticism before he had kicked a ball for Arsenal.

Havertz in the last month has clearly performed better than they expected him to so the narrative has changed from “he is terrible and he will never do anything” to “he blows hot n cold” and “he won’t justify his price tag”.

Who defines the parameters of price tag justification? Who decides the rules for when a player has justified a price tag or not.

As I said, it is an open-minded vague statement that can be applied as per your convenience and agenda.

If he scores X goals and Y assists, you can claim that he hasn’t justified his price tag because to do so, he should have scored X+5 goals and provided Y+5 assists.“

Don’t bring Babar, Imam and the cricket nonsense to this thread. Don’t pollute it please.
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:LOL: :LOL: :LOL: :LOL: :LOL:
 
Bad finishing and the need to take an extra touch made the difference in the end.
 
To be fair Sakah is looking very predictable. He can't beat his man, take a the easier option to cut in.

Abit like Grealish
 
MenInG said:
I love the anti-Arsenal guys trying to tell us that Arteta is the reason we are not wining the league.

Crocodile tears etc.

For Arsenal - onwards and upwards! (or whichever way you want to read it)
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Trophyless season on its way, let's see how many people keep defending this fraud manager
 
Fighting for the title and finishing top 2 is better than not challenging for the title (finishing 3rd/4th) and winning the FA Cup.
 
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An unforgivable defeat at home against a Liverpool team without half of their first team. They were without:
  • VVD - best CB
  • Salah - best forward
  • Endo - best DM
  • Szoboszlai - CAM
  • Henderson
If Arsenal don't win the CL then they need to consider giving Arteta the sack.

There's a real chance of this team finishing outside the top 4.
 
Same old story. Legs turn to jelly when comes the time to shoot.

I said in August Arteta may die on the Havertz sword and I stick by it.

Spending that money on Havertz when we clearly needed a striker is near enough gross negligence.

He obviously and rightly so doesn't trust Eddie but gave him a new contract.

Surely the track record of signing Chelsea players was a red flag in itself.

Frustrated... Ain't gonna say sack him but at the end of the season we have gone backwards then any credit in the bank will be running out.
 
topspin said:
An unforgivable defeat at home against a Liverpool team without half of their first team. They were without:
  • VVD - best CB
  • Salah - best forward
  • Endo - best DM
  • Szoboszlai - CAM
  • Henderson
If Arsenal don't win the CL then they need to consider giving Arteta the sack.

There's a real chance of this team finishing outside the top 4.
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aboveandbeyond said:
If you think a toothless attack like Arsenals can mount a title challenge then you sure is deluded.

Unless a quality nine comes in, Arsenal are very predictable.
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Arsenal need a change of formation. There are enough goals in this team but they need to change their tactics and after the recent slump, I trust Arteta to find a solution internally.

Arsenal will revamp the attack but it is unlikely to happen in January. Will be very difficult.
 
If you are unable to post a proper footballing opinion, don't bother posting on this thread.

We don't have time to babysit posters who have no idea how to post properly.

This thread has become a joke thanks to some who are unable to have a civilized conversation.
 
Mamoon said:
Arsenal need a change of formation. There are enough goals in this team but they need to change their tactics and after the recent slump, I trust Arteta to find a solution internally.

Arsenal will revamp the attack but it is unlikely to happen in January. Will be very difficult.
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Nah.

Sakah and Martineli have hit predictability at the wrong time.
 
Havertz agenda is laughable. He played well and created two clear chances but Saka and Eddie fluffed their lines.

He will continue to play as a target man in the next few games. He has done well and was an important signing.
 
aboveandbeyond said:
Nah.

Sakah and Martineli have hit predictability at the wrong time.
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Martinelli is rubbish, but Saka is a class player and he will rediscover his form. He needs to be more adventurous. Plays it too safe at times.
 
Mamoon said:
Havertz agenda is laughable. He played well and created two clear chances but Saka and Eddie fluffed their lines.

He will continue to play as a target man in the next few games. He has done well and was an important signing.
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Bro what?

He was playing up front. Which Eddie chance?

I'm wondering whether you watched the game.

He missed a easy header from pretty much point blank. Numerous time was in good positions but inexplicably hesitated then shot like his shoe laces were tied together.

If you think he played well, I must have watched a different game.
 
Mamoon said:
Martinelli is rubbish, but Saka is a class player and he will rediscover his form. He needs to be more adventurous. Plays it too safe at times.
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Opposition have worked sakah out. He needs to evolve his skill set.

Agree on Martineli. The guy is a headless chicken
 
Amjid Javed said:
1 win in 7 games, 2 pathetic cup exits

@MenInG @IMMY69 @Firebat @MK7Z @ads101 @Geordie Ahmed @Mamoon

I want to hear all the excuse now for this team and manager that uve been making.

I told you this car crash was coming a long time ago
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Congratulations bro. You won

Enjoy this moment.

Not sure which excuses you are referring to but if passive aggressive posts aimed to take it out on us for trying to see a situation from a different perspective makes you feel better. Good for you bro
 
Soft underbelly.

A lack of leaders.

A team that only seems to know to play one way, pass, pass, pass - and that doesn't always work against the better teams.
 
MK7Z said:
Congratulations bro. You won

Enjoy this moment.

Not sure which excuses you are referring to but if passive aggressive posts aimed to take it out on us for trying to see a situation from a different perspective makes you feel better. Good for you bro
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In all sincerity mate, there is a difference between having a different perspective and having hope with a Manager.
 
I've been saying from the beginning, had Arsenal bought Kudus instead of Havertz, we would have filled the void left by Xhaka, who's doing an amazing job in the Bundesliga for his new club.

The Ghanian bossed Arsenal at the Emirates, when West Ham beat them 2-0 because they couldn't handle their physicality, largely because of his presence in midfield.

He was available for £40m. An absolute bargain and a gem of a player. But according to Havertz's biggest fan, "we shouldn't care about these African players".

It's unreal how Arsenal have thrown away £70m on Havertz and he's become the top earner.

There's no agenda but there needs to be an inquiry as to why:
  • Arteta went above and beyond to pursue his signature
  • Why Edu with his "top talent ID" sanctioned this transfer to take place
  • Why did Arsenal bid £70m? - even though he's been a proven flop in the PL for 3 years straight. This is the same fee Chelsea paid for him
  • Why is he Arsenal's top earner even though he's nowhere near one of their best players?
I hope common sense has now finally prevailed after this reality check and there will be no more demands for apologies from Havertz's biggest fan boy on here.

Havertz needs to be sold in the summer.
 
MK7Z said:
Bro what?

He was playing up front. Which Eddie chance?

I'm wondering whether you watched the game.

He missed a easy header from pretty much point blank. Numerous time was in good positions but inexplicably hesitated then shot like his shoe laces were tied together.

If you think he played well, I must have watched a different game.
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Exactly. Havertz had 5 chances in the first half. He should've ended this game for Liverpool but his incompetence in front of goal has cost Arsenal dearly.

You won't get a rational response because he knows he's been made to look stupid for the way he's been defending Havertz.
 
Mamoon said:
Havertz agenda is laughable. He played well and created two clear chances but Saka and Eddie fluffed their lines.

He will continue to play as a target man in the next few games. He has done well and was an important signing.
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Nah, Havertz was poor

Got a few passes wrong early doors and missed a number of chances, just so ponderous

He wasn't the only one because Saka's shooting was off too
 
Saj said:
Soft underbelly.

A lack of leaders.

A team that only seems to know to play one way, pass, pass, pass - and that doesn't always work against the better teams.
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No shock, I've said this all along.

When you owners have no ambition

When your director of football has no ambition

When the manager is a clueless novice

The captain runs around flicking his every game

The club has no accountability so on the pitch the team crumbles

Until tough decisions need to be made but won't

Won't be shocked if Villa and spurs over take Arsenal in league as well
 
Technics 1210 said:
In all sincerity mate, there is a difference between having a different perspective and having hope with a Manager.
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True. I just personally come from the angle that I have little control of the outcome and letting myself become bitter about a manager takes to much energy. Doesn't mean I accept it. I've stated before I am in no way loyal to Arteta.

I just look forward and see what'll happen where as some repeat what happened the last 4 years 16 times a day on this thread.

If he was sacked tommorow so be it. I'll continue to look forward and try to enjoy football.
 
topspin said:
I've been saying from the beginning, had Arsenal bought Kudus instead of Havertz, we would have filled the void left by Xhaka, who's doing an amazing job in the Bundesliga for his new club.

The Ghanian bossed Arsenal at the Emirates, when West Ham beat them 2-0 because they couldn't handle their physicality, largely because of his presence in midfield.

He was available for £40m. An absolute bargain and a gem of a player. But according to Havertz's biggest fan, "we shouldn't care about these African players".

It's unreal how Arsenal have thrown away £70m on Havertz and he's become the top earner.

There's no agenda but there needs to be an inquiry as to why:
  • Arteta went above and beyond to pursue his signature
  • Why Edu with his "top talent ID" sanctioned this transfer to take place
  • Why did Arsenal bid £70m? - even though he's been a proven flop in the PL for 3 years straight. This is the same fee Chelsea paid for him
  • Why is he Arsenal's top earner even though he's nowhere near one of their best players?
I hope common sense has now finally prevailed after this reality check and there will be no more demands for apologies from Havertz's biggest fan boy on here.

Havertz needs to be sold in the summer.
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Brilliant post and some fantastic points made, the signings was a shambles, and making a top earner and picking him as a main starter is a shambles.

Arteta deserves to be sacked for this signing
 
MK7Z said:
Congratulations bro. You won

Enjoy this moment.

Not sure which excuses you are referring to but if passive aggressive posts aimed to take it out on us for trying to see a situation from a different perspective makes you feel better. Good for you bro
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It's nothing to do with winning. Better managers wouldn't be bottling things with this squad.

A quality squad is being wasted due to incompetent manager and poor recruitment
 
Amjid Javed said:
1 win in 7 games, 2 pathetic cup exits

@MenInG @IMMY69 @Firebat @MK7Z @ads101 @Geordie Ahmed @Mamoon

I want to hear all the excuse now for this team and manager that uve been making.

I told you this car crash was coming a long time ago
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Not sure why I'm being tagged in this 🤣🤣

I don't support Arsenal so have no skin in this fight

My simple observation is that Arteta has done well from where he has taken over. You and others are entitled to think otherwise and that's cool, it's your club so my opinion doesn't mean a great deal

His current run is poor and if by the end of the season Arsenal have gone backwards then I can understand why there would be calls for him to be sacked

In terms of today I would say he coached the game well, when you create chances that's not a coaching issue however where he takes responsibility is most of the chances fell to Havertz, that signing is his responsibility and like @MK7Z said that signing will probably define his job
 
Amjid Javed said:
Brilliant post and some fantastic points made, the signings was a shambles, and making a top earner and picking him as a main starter is a shambles.

Arteta deserves to be sacked for this signing
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I believe the change of system was brought about by Arteta because of his signing. Look at how Xhaka and Kudus are doing compared to Havertz. End result, Arsenal 40 points after 19 games in the PL, fighting for top 4. At this stage last season, they were sitting at top of the table with 50 points.

Anyone who still thinks Havertz was a worthwhile investment for Arsenal needs to give their head a serious wobble.
 
Most annoying thing today, the pathetic late subs

Why keep ESR saying he's part of your plans and you keep bringing him on with few mins left.

Throwing on nketitah and trossard on with 10 mins left and expecting miracles was plain dumb
 
If you look at performance vs output vs fee paid vs PL experience vs minutes played . Kai Havertz is probably pound for pound the worst signing of the season so far.

Made no sense in August and has made little sense since.

Also Zinchenko missing last 2 games. Suprise suprise after 2 shocking performances vs West Ham and Liverpool he suddenly has a niggle.

More like he is crying in the corner somewhere thinking about his next move to get people to feel sorry for him. Maybe an interview with Callum Wilson on his podcast.
 
Amjid Javed said:
Most annoying thing today, the pathetic late subs

Why keep ESR saying he's part of your plans and you keep bringing him on with few mins left.

Throwing on nketitah and trossard on with 10 mins left and expecting miracles was plain dumb
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This is on Arteta. He should've sold ESR when his stock was highest but clearly wanted to keep him, now he's worth pennies in comparison.
 
MK7Z said:
If you look at performance vs output vs fee paid vs PL experience vs minutes played . Kai Havertz is probably pound for pound the worst signing of the season so far.

Made no sense in August and has made little sense since.

Also Zinchenko missing last 2 games. Suprise suprise after 2 shocking performances vs West Ham and Liverpool he suddenly has a niggle.

More like he is crying in the corner somewhere thinking about his next move to get people to feel sorry for him. Maybe an interview with Callum Wilson on his podcast.
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I think only Tonali rivals him for a worse signing but obviously very different circumstances
 
Amjid Javed said:
Most annoying thing today, the pathetic late subs

Why keep ESR saying he's part of your plans and you keep bringing him on with few mins left.

Throwing on nketitah and trossard on with 10 mins left and expecting miracles was plain dumb
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Agreed. ESR should have come on for Jorgino earlier with Rice sitting back and starting play.

Eddie normally needs 99 chances to score 1 so last few mins for him were pointless.

I thought Nelson did well. Ben White needs to be told to stop showing players on to their stronger foot.

Kiwior looks out of place in this team

Saliba again was immense. Gabriel forever has brainless weak left backs on his side so is always having to go out of position.

Ramsdale can't help himself on crosses. Have seen numerous times his ADHD kicks in and he has to be involved. English pundits won't call him out though. Has done it so many times where he makes a good save gets carried away and a goal comes from it
 
Geordie Ahmed said:
Not sure why I'm being tagged in this 🤣🤣

I don't support Arsenal so have no skin in this fight

My simple observation is that Arteta has done well from where he has taken over. You and others are entitled to think otherwise and that's cool, it's your club so my opinion doesn't mean a great deal

His current run is poor and if by the end of the season Arsenal have gone backwards then I can understand why there would be calls for him to be sacked

In terms of today I would say he coached the game well, when you create chances that's not a coaching issue however where he takes responsibility is most of the chances fell to Havertz, that signing is his responsibility and like @MK7Z said that signing will probably define his job
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You were tagged in this because we had a discussion on managers and bad runs.

Emery was sacked because his "bad run" in his 2nd season and was rightly sacked.

I then said Arteta went on a worst run and you Brought up point that it was early in his management stint

Arsenal now have 1 win in 7, and 2 pathetic cup exits as well. After 4 years that's not acceptable at any big club.

Also his in game management was poor. Havertz stayed on who was gash.

He then decides only to bring on other attackers with 10 mins left when 1-0 down

This manager will happily take off players like trossard etc.. in other games at HT after bad performances, yet he keeps his favourites on all game when they are stinking place out.

Everyone knew as usual his subs were going to late and reactive. It shows the manager doesn't trust bench players he's signed or retained
 
MK7Z said:
Agreed. ESR should have come on for Jorgino earlier with Rice sitting back and starting play.

Eddie normally needs 99 chances to score 1 so last few mins for him were pointless.

I thought Nelson did well. Ben White needs to be told to stop showing players on to their stronger foot.

Kiwior looks out of place in this team

Saliba again was immense. Gabriel forever has brainless weak left backs on his side so is always having to go out of position.

Ramsdale can't help himself on crosses. Have seen numerous times his ADHD kicks in and he has to be involved. English pundits won't call him out though. Has done it so many times where he makes a good save gets carried away and a goal comes from it
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ESR won't get game time under Arteta, he's just wasting his career under a manager who hasn't developed players.

Nelson did well overall, but he should have scored early on.

Kiwor signing never made sense last January. We were in a title race last season and we sign a player who doesn't elevate the quality in the squad. Yet another example of poor recruitment .

As soon as oddegard gave that stupid free kick away I knew they would score. Giving TAA a free kick was asking for trouble

The whole trying to walk into the net all game was a utter shambles. This supposed "more control" had lead to less goals, more goals conceded and poor fluidity

I said Arteta was giving me raneri 03 vibes at Chelsea, that's what's happening.

Everytime Arsenal go through a bad patch it last ages under this manager. Nothing ever gets done about it, the mentality is just to weak
 
Geordie Ahmed said:
I think only Tonali rivals him for a worse signing but obviously very different circumstances
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Tbf, I think Milan knew about tonalis gambling and sneakily sold him to you. Their is no explanation for them to want to sell such a player otherwise
 
MK7Z said:
Yup. That's why I mentioned minutes played otherwise Mount would get a mention to.
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Mount is just as rubbish havertz. Pretty much every player Chelsea have sold in summer were garbage
 
Liverpool brought on players like jota today and that's the quality Liverpool have.

Reality is he's better than any striker Arsenal have. All 5 of liverpools strikers are better then anything Arsenal have

The poor forward retention and recruitment is on this clueless manager
 
The only striker he has bought is Gabriel Jesus and some would argue he is not an out and out goal scorer but at the same time flogged Auba Laca and Balogun. Rightly so but you need reenforcements

No games for 2 weeks. If they are serious then a good time to work on targets.

Deep down I know we won't do Jack.
 
MK7Z said:
The only striker he has bought is Gabriel Jesus and some would argue he is not an out and out goal scorer but at the same time flogged Auba Laca and Balogun. Rightly so but you need reenforcements

No games for 2 weeks. If they are serious then a good time to work on targets.

Deep down I know we won't do Jack.
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There are stats flying around at the moment comparing Jesus vs laca at Arsenal and their isn't much difference. Yes Jesus I'd more mobile and brings more people into play. Reailty is Jesus was never going to lead Arsenal to a title, the compensation of other players having to chip in to cover is to much.

Yep the money wasted on havertz and raya (100M) means that unless kronkes put their own money in, we ain't signing a striker
 
1 win in 7 which is pathetic

Now when the 2 week breaks ends

Palace (H)
Forrest (A)
Liverpool (H)
West ham (A)

Can't see this team turning it around in league with those next 4 fixtures. Arsenal's title challenge will be buried by Feb
 
Amjid Javed said:
1 win in 7 which is pathetic

Now when the 2 week breaks ends

Palace (H)
Forrest (A)
Liverpool (H)
West ham (A)

Can't see this team turning it around in league with those next 4 fixtures. Arsenal's title challenge will be buried by Feb
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Turning it around is a stretch, at this point seeing the ball hit the back of the next seems a luxury
 
As much as i hate liverpool they showed grit when not playing well and elite mentality and are still in 4 competitions.
 
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Amjid Javed said:
1 win in 7 which is pathetic

Now when the 2 week breaks ends

Palace (H)
Forrest (A)
Liverpool (H)
West ham (A)

Can't see this team turning it around in league with those next 4 fixtures. Arsenal's title challenge will be buried by Feb
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I think you win the next 2, it's the 2 after that where you'll struggle

At that stage, you could be 9 or 11 points behind Liverpool
 
MK7Z said:
If you look at performance vs output vs fee paid vs PL experience vs minutes played . Kai Havertz is probably pound for pound the worst signing of the season so far.
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Kudos to you for highlighting this because apparently anyone who criticises him has an "agenda" and needs to "apologise" for his rare one-off performances.
 
Just goes to show how desperately we need a certified finisher

Our back up strikers are terrible. Our number 1 striker (Jesus) isn’t ideal either
 
Geordie Ahmed said:
Nah, Havertz was poor

Got a few passes wrong early doors and missed a number of chances, just so ponderous

He wasn't the only one because Saka's shooting was off too
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Well said.

You have to be out of your mind or be a serious cult follower of Havertz to even defend him, let alone suggest that he "played well".

It's funny because the inevitable bubble has now burst for him after having claimed that he's justified his price tag and not to forget for all those desperate demands for apologies after a few rare good performances in what's been an awful 3.5 year track record in the PL for him.
 
topspin said:
I've been saying from the beginning, had Arsenal bought Kudus instead of Havertz, we would have filled the void left by Xhaka, who's doing an amazing job in the Bundesliga for his new club.

The Ghanian bossed Arsenal at the Emirates, when West Ham beat them 2-0 because they couldn't handle their physicality, largely because of his presence in midfield.

He was available for £40m. An absolute bargain and a gem of a player. But according to Havertz's biggest fan, "we shouldn't care about these African players".

It's unreal how Arsenal have thrown away £70m on Havertz and he's become the top earner.

There's no agenda but there needs to be an inquiry as to why:
  • Arteta went above and beyond to pursue his signature
  • Why Edu with his "top talent ID" sanctioned this transfer to take place
  • Why did Arsenal bid £70m? - even though he's been a proven flop in the PL for 3 years straight. This is the same fee Chelsea paid for him
  • Why is he Arsenal's top earner even though he's nowhere near one of their best players?
I hope common sense has now finally prevailed after this reality check and there will be no more demands for apologies from Havertz's biggest fan boy on here.

Havertz needs to be sold in the summer.
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Yawn. Not this nonsense again.

You seem to have a weird and creepy obsession with Kudus. He is a good player for sure and everyone knew that when he was Ajax and I’m sure Edu and Arteta knew it as well because they were closely monitoring him and flirted with the possibility of acquiring him along with Timber, but he wasn’t exactly the profile that they were looking for because of which they went for Havertz who can play multiple positions.
 
So who, or what, is the answer to the problem Arsenal are struggling to solve?

Some might suggest it is a failing Arsenal and Arteta should have tackled last summer, that the £65m handed over to Chelsea for Havertz may have been better spent on someone who could be relied to put the ball in the net with regularity.

Arsenal have long been linked with Brentford's Ivan Toney, who is about to return to football after an eight-month ban for breaching betting regulations.

But this would be a highly expensive deal to do, with talk of a £100m fee, and might be very difficult to pull off in January.

The Toney deal is something that might be ideally addressed in the summer but evidence suggests Arsenal and Arteta cannot afford to hang around, especially when their main striker Jesus seems increasingly susceptible to injury.

www.bbc.co.uk

'Arsenal flaws exposed - and must be urgently addressed'

Arsenal's FA Cup third-round defeat by Liverpool "brutally exposed" their lack of killer instinct, writes Phil McNulty.
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topspin said:
Well said.

You have to be out of your mind or be a serious cult follower of Havertz to even defend him, let alone suggest that he "played well".

It's funny because the inevitable bubble has now burst for him after having claimed that he's justified his price tag and not to forget for all those desperate demands for apologies after a few rare good performances in what's been an awful 3.5 year track record in the PL for him.
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We all know a certain 🤡 is on the defensive now. The usual copy, paste, repeat Arteta this, Arteta that bhangra posts with zero substance.

Havertz running around like a headless chicken is the symbol of Arsenal's weak mentality now.

Things will only get worse this season. The only apology will be when this 🤡 admits Arteta was out of his depth or dissapears at end of season like he did last season
 
Mamoon said:
Yawn. Not this nonsense again.

You seem to have a weird and creepy obsession with Kudus. He is a good player for sure and everyone knew that when he was Ajax and I’m sure Edu and Arteta knew it as well because they were closely monitoring him and flirted with the possibility of acquiring him along with Timber, but he wasn’t exactly the profile that they were looking for because of which they went for Havertz who can play multiple positions.
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Signing a player who is a mediocre in all positions, more incompetence of the highest level. 5 big chances missed yesterday and your the 🤡 who thinks he played well.

Get writing your end of season apology, because I know you will dissapear like the coward that you are like last season
 
To add to the above, Kudus can also play in different positions but the key characteristic that Havertz brings to the table is his ability to play as a target man.

Since selling Giroud in Jan 2018, Arsenal haven’t had a target man who could hold the ball and create space for others. Havertz fulfills that role.

Even yesterday, he was the main reason why Arsenal created so many chances in the first 20 mins.
 
Forget winning the title, just finishing top 4 is going to be a real struggle..

This was possibly the weakest Liverpool side to visit the emirates in over a decade (no VVD, Salah, Fermino, Mane, Firminho) and we couldn't score a single goal.... plenty of chances, should have been 3 to 5 goals up at half time but the same striker/goal scoring issues cropped up again.

We urgently require an instinctive goal scorer if we're going to make top 4 let alone compete for the title.
 
Mamoon said:
To add to the above, Kudus can also play in different positions but the key characteristic that Havertz brings to the table is his ability to play as a target man.

Since selling Giroud in Jan 2018, Arsenal haven’t had a target man who could hold the ball and create space for others. Havertz fulfills that role.

Even yesterday, he was the main reason why Arsenal created so many chances in the first 20 mins.
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🤣🤣 comparing havertz to giroud.

Only comparison needed is both were donkeys in front of goal for Arsenal.

5 big chances missed and you conviently ignore that as it doesn't suit your twerking for mediocrity agenda.
 
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