Arsenal FC | 2023/24 Season

[Amjid Javed]

I think once everyone is fit the best pairing will be Rice and Partey through the middle, with Rice taking the number 8 position on the left.

Arteta has done some special things as coach and you could see that with Tomiyasu. He came in as left back and was largely playing centrally and looked so comfortable doing it.
Not in a million years could I imagine Tomy playing central midfield, in that Zinchenko role.

Havitz is slow but gets into decent situations. His confidence is clearly lacking but I wont fight him off after 4 games.

Tomiyasu came on and didn't nothing special so again stop overhyped stuff which is just a fabrication of your imagination.

Jesus and Vieira came on and showed impetus, Tomiyasu did nothing.

Your making out as though Tomiyasu came on and changed complex of game in midfield, utter rubbish.

Havertz is a proven PL flop. Go look at James maddision who played in a struggling relegated Leicester team. He's gone to a spurs team who aren't great and hit the ground running.

So all this haveryz needs time is yet another one of your lame excuses. Its only taken 4 games into season for your excuses to be brought up.

Maybe you should join Arteta in wooing havertz, like Arteta wooed his wife.

One of the worst players I've seen in an Arsenal shirt and I've support club since 1987. Even gunnersaurus would do a better job in midfield then this fraud of footballer.

Why don't you roll out the "it took Bergkamp, Pires and henry time to settled" excuse and comparison as well. As most of the loser in fan base capping for mediocrity are using it.

 

[Amjid Javed]

Problem for Arteta is he wont drop Havertz because of the high fee.

But from the above you can see he did little to nothing, surely another player on the left side of mid would have done a lot more.

I think the physical nature of the PL is too much for him. Still young enough to put on some muscle and strength but will he be willing to work hard enough in the gym to achieve this?

Arteta will keep picking him as his ego and stubbornness is there as he wants to try and prove people wrong. Top managers Pep, klopp, anchelotti etc.. know when to make changes for team and are proactive. Arsenal collapse in last 3 season are all down to Arteta tactical ineptness.

 

[Amjid Javed]

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The middle graphic sums up havertz, stunk the place out for 77 mins.

Emmanuel eboue type incompetence on pitch, running around like a headless chicken.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Arteta will keep picking him as his ego and stubbornness is there as he wants to try and prove people wrong. Top managers Pep, klopp, anchelotti etc.. know when to make changes for team and are proactive. Arsenal collapse in last 3 season are all down to Arteta tactical ineptness.

Im surprised he made the Germany squad. I think Arteta will think of some other genius idea, to play him in a different position, possibly up top on the left with a 3.

 

[Amjid Javed]

Im surprised he made the Germany squad. I think Arteta will think of some other genius idea, to play him in a different position, possibly up top on the left with a 3.

German squad is full of mediocre players, the current German team is being regularly beaten by mediocre nations. This is a team which was an embarrassment at world cup. So him being selected at international level means nothing. He was useless in last few games for Germany as well.

 

[IMMY69]

In Arteta we trust!
Spoken on behalf of true Gooners

 

[Firebat]

In Arteta we trust!
Spoken on behalf of true Gooners

Anyone who's been to a game in the last 2 years knows the backing he has from the real fanbase. The die-hard, away-going fans belt his name out each week from 90 metres up at St James Park to the Vitality.

So sad to see how far this fraudteta fanboy sickness has spread...

 

[Rana]

This might just be the season where Jesus peaks

InshaAllah 25+ PL goals. He has to do it if Arsenal want to have a chance at winning the league

 

[Firebat]

This might just be the season where Jesus peaks

InshaAllah 25+ PL goals. He has to do it if Arsenal want to have a chance at winning the league

I don't think anyone was expecting him to finish off that chance against United, least of all me, the composure was insane. Hope he's turned a corner and can stay fit for the season.

 

[Amjid Javed]

In Arteta we trust!
Spoken on behalf of true Gooners

True gooners yet more nonsense

Players and managers come and go, the clubs called Arsenal FC not Arteta FC

So by your so called logic you must have been

In Terry Niell we trust
In Don however we trust
In George Graham we trust
In bruch rioch we trust
In wenger we trust
In Emery we trust

So being the Age that you are trusted all these managers to the end did you.

When Arteta is sacked or leaves are you mamoom, firebat taking your Artetas fan club where ever he goes?

"Oh if Arteta wants this player I will support him,"

Absolutely lemming and sheep behaviour.

Well done uve trusted a manager who has bottled a europa league semi final, top 4 race and PL title. Loser mentality

Once Arteta is gone il be glad that you and Mamoon are gone as well and you can cap all you want for which ever mediocre club hires him next.

The fact so called fans are supporting players / Managers like loved up teenagers over the actual club is hilarious

 

[Amjid Javed]

Anyone who's been to a game in the last 2 years knows the backing he has from the real fanbase. The die-hard, away-going fans belt his name out each week from 90 metres up at St James Park to the Vitality.

So sad to see how far this fraudteta fanboy sickness has spread...

Most fans are already questioning his poor tactical changes this season. We will see the fan reaction if it ends trophyless again, that will show whether the club's fans have ambition or are like spurs fans and are happy with "pretty football" and no trophies.

 

[IMMY69]

True gooners yet more nonsense

Players and managers come and go, the clubs called Arsenal FC not Arteta FC

So by your so called logic you must have been

In Terry Niell we trust
In Don however we trust
In George Graham we trust
In bruch rioch we trust
In wenger we trust
In Emery we trust

So being the Age that you are trusted all these managers to the end did you.

When Arteta is sacked or leaves are you mamoom, firebat taking your Artetas fan club where ever he goes?

"Oh if Arteta wants this player I will support him,"

Absolutely lemming and sheep behaviour.

Well done uve trusted a manager who has bottled a europa league semi final, top 4 race and PL title. Loser mentality

Once Arteta is gone il be glad that you and Mamoon are gone as well and you can cap all you want for which ever mediocre club hires him next.

The fact so called fans are supporting players / Managers like loved up teenagers over the actual club is hilarious

You just don't get it and I doubt you ever will.

The negativity you have is toxic.
Criticise by all means, have a discussion about tactics, the mistakes etc but not to the point where you come across as a glass half empty fellow that just brings down the atmosphere, sucking the air out of a room that prevents others to post their own views without being called an Arteta Fanboy or lover.

 

[Amjid Javed]

You just don't get it and I doubt you ever will.

The negativity you have is toxic.
Criticise by all means, have a discussion about tactics, the mistakes etc but not to the point where you come across as a glass half empty fellow that just brings down the atmosphere, sucking the air out of a room that prevents others to post their own views without being called an Arteta Fanboy or lover.

negative? What because I spoke the truth about the club bottling the end of the last 3 seasons.

Feel free to counter that point, where is the proof that Arsenal have shown they are capable of handling end of season pressure. To take a title of a City, fergies united (in past) or Liverpool 80s (past) you have to be able to put winning runs at the back end of season so you can get past those teams.

Let me give you a history lesson while I am at it because you really don't have a clue.

Go back and look at Arsenal's title wins and look at back end of season performances

88/89 - last 10 games (won 6, drawn 3, lost 1)
90/91 after losing to Chelsea in Feb - (won 8, drawn 5) - won title with game to spare
97/98 - won 10 games in a row at back end of season and won title 2 games to spare ( also 13 wins from 14 at back end of season) up to the Everton game.
01/02 - won 13 games in row at end of season (won 15 out of last 16 games, 1 draw)
03/04 - Arsenal won 11 (including 9 in a row), drawn 2 going into spurs game where they won title with 5 games left.

This Arsenal team has shown they can NOT do this "at back end of the season.

Again feel free to shown me evidence of where this current Arsenal team has done that at back end of season

I guarantee you can't.

So I have given you proof and evidence what is needed to win a title.

This is why I don't rate Arteta because he's not shown he can do this.

Bit the hard cold truth and facts hurts your feelings.

"Oh your negative" because I can see and sense from not only previous Arsenal title wins but how other teams have won titles last few years what is needed at back end of season.


Your glass half empty let's call it no cups.

I'd rather be open and honest then being fake positive and burying my head in sand.

 

[Firebat]

negative? What because I spoke the truth about the club bottling the end of the last 3 seasons.

Feel free to counter that point, where is the proof that Arsenal have shown they are capable of handling end of season pressure. To take a title of a City, fergies united (in past) or Liverpool 80s (past) you have to be able to put winning runs at the back end of season so you can get past those teams.

Let me give you a history lesson while I am at it because you really don't have a clue.

Go back and look at Arsenal's title wins and look at back end of season performances

88/89 - last 10 games (won 6, drawn 3, lost 1)
90/91 after losing to Chelsea in Feb - (won 8, drawn 5) - won title with game to spare
97/98 - won 10 games in a row at back end of season and won title 2 games to spare ( also 13 wins from 14 at back end of season) up to the Everton game.
01/02 - won 13 games in row at end of season (won 15 out of last 16 games, 1 draw)
03/04 - Arsenal won 11 (including 9 in a row), drawn 2 going into spurs game where they won title with 5 games left.

This Arsenal team has shown they can NOT do this "at back end of the season.

Again feel free to shown me evidence of where this current Arsenal team has done that at back end of season

I guarantee you can't.

So I have given you proof and evidence what is needed to win a title.

This is why I don't rate Arteta because he's not shown he can do this.

Bit the hard cold truth and facts hurts your feelings.

"Oh your negative" because I can see and sense from not only previous Arsenal title wins but how other teams have won titles last few years what is needed at back end of season.


Your glass half empty let's call it no cups.

I'd rather be open and honest then being fake positive and burying my head in sand.

He's not talking about your views and honesty, that's all good and I respect that. He's talking about this aggressive, pretentious attitude in every post, we'll see it in your reply to me right now. 70 emotional copy-pasted rants a day about the same thing, attacking everyone who doesn't agree with you "groupie" "fanboy" "deluded" "fake positive" "don't have a clue" "naive" "loser" "pathetic" etc etc every post. It's tiring.

This arrogant, I'm always right attitude is the same one that you always rightly criticised Mamoon for, you have the same. Nobody else does. He's not here, none of us are attacking you.

Many times you've even told me that I'm part of the reason Arsenal haven't won anything, because I wrote on a Pakistan cricket forum that I think Arteta has done positive things for the club I spend my money every week every month every season, just like you've done I'm sure, to support the club and I've never met a fellow Arsenal fan so offended by simple views that most of the fanbase share. Just relax man it's not that deep - supporting your team is supposed to be fun.

Take it or leave it, this is why no one interacts with all those posts of yours every day. It's not because we want to bury our heads in the sand, my own brother has the same views and we actually debate all the time like normal people. Just my 2 cents.

 

[IMMY69]

negative? What because I spoke the truth about the club bottling the end of the last 3 seasons.

Feel free to counter that point, where is the proof that Arsenal have shown they are capable of handling end of season pressure. To take a title of a City, fergies united (in past) or Liverpool 80s (past) you have to be able to put winning runs at the back end of season so you can get past those teams.

Let me give you a history lesson while I am at it because you really don't have a clue.

Go back and look at Arsenal's title wins and look at back end of season performances

88/89 - last 10 games (won 6, drawn 3, lost 1)
90/91 after losing to Chelsea in Feb - (won 8, drawn 5) - won title with game to spare
97/98 - won 10 games in a row at back end of season and won title 2 games to spare ( also 13 wins from 14 at back end of season) up to the Everton game.
01/02 - won 13 games in row at end of season (won 15 out of last 16 games, 1 draw)
03/04 - Arsenal won 11 (including 9 in a row), drawn 2 going into spurs game where they won title with 5 games left.

This Arsenal team has shown they can NOT do this "at back end of the season.

Again feel free to shown me evidence of where this current Arsenal team has done that at back end of season

I guarantee you can't.

So I have given you proof and evidence what is needed to win a title.

This is why I don't rate Arteta because he's not shown he can do this.

Bit the hard cold truth and facts hurts your feelings.

"Oh your negative" because I can see and sense from not only previous Arsenal title wins but how other teams have won titles last few years what is needed at back end of season.


Your glass half empty let's call it no cups.

I'd rather be open and honest then being fake positive and burying my head in sand.

negative? What because I spoke the truth about the club bottling the end of the last 3 seasons.

Feel free to counter that point, where is the proof that Arsenal have shown they are capable of handling end of season pressure. To take a title of a City, fergies united (in past) or Liverpool 80s (past) you have to be able to put winning runs at the back end of season so you can get past those teams.

Let me give you a history lesson while I am at it because you really don't have a clue.

Go back and look at Arsenal's title wins and look at back end of season performances

88/89 - last 10 games (won 6, drawn 3, lost 1)
90/91 after losing to Chelsea in Feb - (won 8, drawn 5) - won title with game to spare
97/98 - won 10 games in a row at back end of season and won title 2 games to spare ( also 13 wins from 14 at back end of season) up to the Everton game.
01/02 - won 13 games in row at end of season (won 15 out of last 16 games, 1 draw)
03/04 - Arsenal won 11 (including 9 in a row), drawn 2 going into spurs game where they won title with 5 games left.

This Arsenal team has shown they can NOT do this "at back end of the season.

Again feel free to shown me evidence of where this current Arsenal team has done that at back end of season

I guarantee you can't.

So I have given you proof and evidence what is needed to win a title.

This is why I don't rate Arteta because he's not shown he can do this.

Bit the hard cold truth and facts hurts your feelings.

"Oh your negative" because I can see and sense from not only previous Arsenal title wins but how other teams have won titles last few years what is needed at back end of season.


Your glass half empty let's call it no cups.

I'd rather be open and honest then being fake positive and burying my head in sand.

Your whole reply is based on end of the season results and yet we're only 4 games in to this season.
Last Season we started like a race horse out of the traps and we all know how the season ended.

Liverpool in their first and only premier league title winning season so far also started well and dominated for almost all of the season before City nearly being pipped them at the post.

What does this mean?

Getting results whilst you're not playing well is fundamental.
Hitting form at the right time is equally important.

City have this down to a tea because they are a phenomenal side with an all time great coach at the helm.

Timber is a superb purchase as was Rice. You can't account for his injury after just two games.
Havitz hasn't looked the part but I am prepared to back the coaches who clearly see something in him.
So I will reserve my judgement on him.

The only place where I feel we should have strengthened is Saka's position. We do need a back up for him and give him rest. However, even then, I can see Saka being rested for cup games and Arteta deploying Trossard on the right.

In short, it's long season so pipe down with the negativity for now and keep a positive mindset.

 

[Amjid Javed]

negative? What because I spoke the truth about the club bottling the end of the last 3 seasons.


Your whole reply is based on end of the season results and yet we're only 4 games in to this season.
Last Season we started like a race horse out of the traps and we all know how the season ended.

Liverpool in their first and only premier league title winning season so far also started well and dominated for almost all of the season before City nearly being pipped them at the post.

What does this mean?

Getting results whilst you're not playing well is fundamental.
Hitting form at the right time is equally important.

City have this down to a tea because they are a phenomenal side with an all time great coach at the helm.

Timber is a superb purchase as was Rice. You can't account for his injury after just two games.
Havitz hasn't looked the part but I am prepared to back the coaches who clearly see something in him.
So I will reserve my judgement on him.

The only place where I feel we should have strengthened is Saka's position. We do need a back up for him and give him rest. However, even then, I can see Saka being rested for cup games and Arteta deploying Trossard on the right.

In short, it's long season so pipe down with the negativity for now and keep a positive mindset.

My whole theory is based on end of last season? I clear said that Arsenal have bottled it in the last 3 season, EL semi final, top 4 race and PL title. I know your comprehension skills are non existent

Again I said disprove that theory. But you can't you've just rambled on about getting off to a good start.

Yeah Liverpool won the league because they got off to a flyer and stated consistent for 30 games. All the other titles in last 7 seasons or so have been won by team who has performed strongest in the title run In.

But yet you have no answer. Just like when I asked you for proof "arsenal had played dominant football for last 3 years" yet another delusional statement from you.

Feeble weak mentality, "oh I'm leaving im not posting on here on anymore" then few days later your back.

Hilarious stuff, so keep up you half glass full mediocre happy standards.

Then to your last hilarious point

"Winning when your not playing well"

Arsenal werent playing well at "end" of last season, or the 2 seasons before it and weren't winning. So yet another comical statement.

"Hitting form at right time"

Exactly the point I made on arsenal's last 5 title wins

Then I asked you to show me proof current Arsenal team can do that and you can't.

Clueless you really are, I suggest you pipe down with delusion.

 

[IMMY69]

My whole theory is based on end of last season? I clear said that Arsenal have bottled it in the last 3 season, EL semi final, top 4 race and PL title. I know your comprehension skills are non existent

Again I said disprove that theory. But you can't you've just rambled on about getting off to a good start.

Yeah Liverpool won the league because they got off to a flyer and stated consistent for 30 games. All the other titles in last 7 seasons or so have been won by team who has performed strongest in the title run In.

But yet you have no answer. Just like when I asked you for proof "arsenal had played dominant football for last 3 years" yet another delusional statement from you.

Feeble weak mentality, "oh I'm leaving im not posting on here on anymore" then few days later your back.

Hilarious stuff, so keep up you half glass full mediocre happy standards.

Then to your last hilarious point

"Winning when your not playing well"

Arsenal werent playing well at "end" of last season, or the 2 seasons before it and weren't winning. So yet another comical statement.

"Hitting form at right time"

Exactly the point I made on arsenal's last 5 title wins

Then I asked you to show me proof current Arsenal team can do that and you can't.

Clueless you really are, I suggest you pipe down with delusion.

Here's my reply:-

I refer you to Firebat's post (No. 254).

No doubt you will say something on the lines of "you don't have an argument" etc etc.

It's actually very sad to see.
I get no pleasure at all from it.

But I've done my bit so wish you luck

 

[Amjid Javed]

Here's my reply:-

I refer you to Firebat's post (No. 254).

No doubt you will say something on the lines of "you don't have an argument" etc etc.

It's actually very sad to see.
I get no pleasure at all from it.

But I've done my bit so wish you luck

You haven't done your bit at all.

You made a statement below and asked for proof and you couldn't produce any.



I asked you a question show me proof where Arsenal have handled end of season pressure in last 3 seasons. Again you had no answer.

The fact you can't even address either question shows your so called positive bravado is just "fake"

Fair play to firebat when I asked him the question he gave the below reply. (That's what you call Answering a question, rather then waffling and calling someone negative, because you can't address your own statements or other people's questions)


Simple way to do things

 

[daytrader]

Arsenal hope they can agree a move for Ivory Coast winger Nicolas Pepe to move to Turkey, with Besiktas and Trabzonspor said to be interested in the 28-year-old

 

[Rizzy1]

Cant wait for when Havertz scores from an attack in which Zinchenko puts it through to Eddie who holds up play lays it on to Havertz who bangs it in.

I reckon this thread will say something like " But where was this at the end of last season when Arteta Bottled the league"
or " we got lucky poor defending by opposition" or " Fraudteta Should have took Havertz off in case he gets injured!"

Like come on man, like mentioned above. Enjoy supporting your team. Takes less energy to be happy than to whinge about everything 24/7 and mentioning last season over and over.

 

[BouncerGuy]

Arsenal's former club record signing Nicolas Pepe has joined Turkish side Trabzonspor on a free transfer, ending a disappointing four-year spell at Emirates Stadium.

The Gunners paid £72m to sign the Ivory Coast winger from Lille in 2019.

Pepe scored 27 goals in 112 games for Arsenal and spent last season on loan with French side Nice.

The 28-year-old was not involved in any of the club's matchday squads this season.

Pepe had one year left on his Arsenal contract and had been their record signing until the £100m arrival of West Ham midfielder Declan Rice this summer.

Trabzonspor are seventh in the Turkish Super Lig and in a video posted on the club's Twitter account, Pepe said: "I came here to become a champion and achieve success."

 

[Rizzy1]

Shame it didn't work out for Pepe. He was a fan favourite but never a manager Favourite. Even Emery didn't really want him
Most agree was a flop but his stats aren't as bad as perceived. Not great for the price tag but gets mentioned in same breath as flops like Sancho and Antony

 

[Firebat]

Shame it didn't work out for Pepe. He was a fan favourite but never a manager Favourite. Even Emery didn't really want him
Most agree was a flop but his stats aren't as bad as perceived. Not great for the price tag but gets mentioned in same breath as flops like Sancho and Antony

Yes shame for him. Emery wanted Zaha not him, and of course Arteta wanted him even less.

He's just a Europa League level player though, never worth what we paid for him and a huge waste. He's better in the French league where he can dominate.

 

[Rizzy1]

I'd probably say he was the best free kick and Penalty taker we have had in recent years.

 

[Amjid Javed]

German squad is full of mediocre players, the current German team is being regularly beaten by mediocre nations. This is a team which was an embarrassment at world cup. So him being selected at international level means nothing. He was useless in last few games for Germany as well.

@KingKhanWC - have a look at yet another shambolic performance from Germany and havertz getting slapped 4-1 to Japan.

As I said anyone still twerking for havertz because he's Germanys main striker thinking he's some sort of top player

 

[Amjid Javed]

Cant wait for when Havertz scores from an attack in which Zinchenko puts it through to Eddie who holds up play lays it on to Havertz who bangs it in.

I reckon this thread will say something like " But where was this at the end of last season when Arteta Bottled the league"
or " we got lucky poor defending by opposition" or " Fraudteta Should have took Havertz off in case he gets injured!"

Like come on man, like mentioned above. Enjoy supporting your team. Takes less energy to be happy than to whinge about everything 24/7 and mentioning last season over and over.

The fact you can't wait for 3 bang average footballers to combine is hilarious. Seems like another mediocre clapping and twerking merchant.

I have high standards for the club I support, have you even seen this club win the league? Or you just another fan hyping up current mediocre standards.

Reason last few seasons are brought up is because Club has failed yet some fans are getting gassed up over it.

 

[Amjid Javed]

Next game after international break Everton away a ground Arsenal haven't won at for 6 years, Everton in your face, rough house, direct football at Goodison Park is something Arsenal don't like.

"Evertons poor form" never seems to matter to them when playing Arsenal at home.

Last meeting at Goodison

Everton (18th) 1 - 0 Arsenal (1st) - Everton came into game 8 losses, 2 draw (in all competitions)

Everton (12th) 2 - 1 Arsenal (7th) -
Everton came into game 8 games without a win in PL

Everton (2nd) 2 - 1 Arsenal (15th) -
Arsenal came into game with 1 win in 9 games, also worst start to PL season.

Everton (15th) 0-0 Arsenal (12th) - New managers Ancelotti and Arteta watched game from stands before they took over respective teams

Everton (9th) 1-0 Arsenal (4th) -
Part of Arsenal's end of season top 4 collapse under Emery, where Club won 1 of last 8 PL games that season.

Everton (18th) 2 - 5 Arsenal (5th)
Arsenal's last win at goodison 6 seasons ago.

Everton (7th) 2 - 1 Arsenal (2nd) -
This was Everton's second win in their last 12 games in all competitions.

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Everton have won 5, drawn 1 lost 1 of last 7 meetings at Goodison including last 3 in a row. Most of these Games Everton have gone into them with poor league form.

 

[Rizzy1]

The fact you can't wait for 3 bang average footballers to combine is hilarious. Seems like another mediocre clapping and twerking merchant.

I have high standards for the club I support, have you even seen this club win the league? Or you just another fan hyping up current mediocre standards.

Reason last few seasons are brought up is because Club has failed yet some fans are getting gassed up over it.

If you supported the club as you claim you do, you should have replied with - that you can't wait for that to happen to as a goal for arsenal is a goal.
Of course that would not suit your agenda.

The fact I joked about the possible scenario has triggered you tells me everything I need to know about you as a fan.

I have supported this team for a very very long time. Attended games, ENJOYED it. Over time life has taken over and as much as I want that UCL and PL there are more important things in life so I've took the stance of what will be will be And enjoy the ride

 

[Rizzy1]

Next game after international break Everton away a ground Arsenal haven't won at for 6 years, Everton in your face, rough house, direct football at Goodison Park is something Arsenal don't like.

"Evertons poor form" never seems to matter to them when playing Arsenal at home.

Last meeting at Goodison

Everton (18th) 1 - 0 Arsenal (1st) - Everton came into game 8 losses, 2 draw (in all competitions)

Everton (12th) 2 - 1 Arsenal (7th) -
Everton came into game 8 games without a win in PL

Everton (2nd) 2 - 1 Arsenal (15th) -
Arsenal came into game with 1 win in 9 games, also worst start to PL season.

Everton (15th) 0-0 Arsenal (12th) - New managers Ancelotti and Arteta watched game from stands before they took over respective teams

Everton (9th) 1-0 Arsenal (4th) -
Part of Arsenal's end of season top 4 collapse under Emery, where Club won 1 of last 8 PL games that season.

Everton (18th) 2 - 5 Arsenal (5th)
Arsenal's last win at goodison 6 seasons ago.

Everton (7th) 2 - 1 Arsenal (2nd) -
This was Everton's second win in their last 12 games in all competitions.

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Everton have won 5, drawn 1 lost 1 of last 7 meetings at Goodison including last 3 in a row. Most of these Games Everton have gone into them with poor league form.

They always seem up for it when we come to town
Old school stadium.
Went there a few years back. Night game. Lost 2-1 to a late Ashley Williams goal if I remember right.
Miserable game. Wet, cold and up north.
I think someone like Rice experience can help us in this game. Partey visits to goodison have been shocking.

 

[Amjid Javed]

They always seem up for it when we come to town
Old school stadium.
Went there a few years back. Night game. Lost 2-1 to a late Ashley Williams goal if I remember right.
Miserable game. Wet, cold and up north.
I think someone like Rice experience can help us in this game. Partey visits to goodison have been shocking.

Our record in the North West in general in Attrocious in recent time whether it be Manc city, Liverpool, United or Everton. In terms of Everton the tight stadium, and the way Everton are physical and don't give you time on ball just effects our players who just can't handle that type of pressure.

Everton will play the 3 big physical lads in midfield and this is where Arsenal need to play jorghino, Rice and oddegard to be able to not get over run in midfield but most of all keep the ball in a good manner. Playing havert or Vieira (yes he's done well as a sub) along side oddegard will just mean Everton will just physically bully Arsenal again. We saw oddegard bottling 50:50 challenges last season at Goodison but as he's captain he will play, so we can't afford another physically weak number 8 next to him. A much better performance then we've shown so far this season will be Need defensively and offensively to get anything from goodison Park.

 

[MK7Z]

Roll on the weekend. International break is so annoying, Need the Arsenal back!

 

[Amjid Javed]

Roll on the weekend. International break is so annoying, Need the Arsenal back!

Agreed, international breaks are waste of time. There is another one on October

 

[MK7Z]

Agreed, international breaks are waste of time. There is another one on October

Ye I saw the gap earlier when looking at the fixtures. Does break momentum for teams, but at the same time gives injured players less games to miss if injured over international breaks.
There is always fear players will get injured in pointless friendlies that nobody cares about apart from Harry Maguire who gets some game time.
I believe there is another one in November to, then there is normally none till Spring

 

[hassan918]

Congrats to Declan Rice

https://twitter.com/x/status/1701282544879108164

 

[KingKhanWC]

Congrats to Declan Rice

https://twitter.com/x/status/1701282544879108164

Whats he done , apart from a late goal v Utd?

 

[KingKhanWC]

Our record in the North West in general in Attrocious in recent time whether it be Manc city, Liverpool, United or Everton. In terms of Everton the tight stadium, and the way Everton are physical and don't give you time on ball just effects our players who just can't handle that type of pressure.

Everton will play the 3 big physical lads in midfield and this is where Arsenal need to play jorghino, Rice and oddegard to be able to not get over run in midfield but most of all keep the ball in a good manner. Playing havert or Vieira (yes he's done well as a sub) along side oddegard will just mean Everton will just physically bully Arsenal again. We saw oddegard bottling 50:50 challenges last season at Goodison but as he's captain he will play, so we can't afford another physically weak number 8 next to him. A much better performance then we've shown so far this season will be Need defensively and offensively to get anything from goodison Park.

Declan Rice will have to earn his wages in this fixture. He is touted as strong , physical etc but I think this is a little overated.

Everton have had a poor start again, playing Arsenal at home will give them a big lift. Expect a war.

 

[Mamoon]

I’m back after a couple of months and I’m not surprised to see Amjid still talking absolute nonsense.

I thought he would pipe it down after telling us all summer that Arsenal would miss out on Rice because of lowballing and how they wouldn’t stand a chance of City comes in for him.

Arsenal did brilliant business in the summer but the injury to Timber has been a major blow to Arsenal’s title aspirations.

Rice has been absolutely sensational. A fantastic signing who is worth every penny. He is going to be an Arsenal legend.

Havertz has had a difficult start but I would trust Arteta over folks who probably get sacked on FIFA Career Mode on their Xbox.

The only thing that any player needs is faith from the manager. When you don’t have your manager’s trust, there is no way back. Look at Sancho and Ten Hag.

If Arteta could revive Xhaka’s Arsenal career after he threw his armband to the ground, got sacked as captain and abused the fans, he can also help Havertz achieve his potential.

If he doesn’t he doesn’t. Not the end of the world. He won’t be the first or the last player to fail. He will be sold and life will move on.

If he can turn things around, it will be a huge success story.

This is a wonderful time to be an Arsenal fan and they should be happy to see where the team is currently at and how much they have improved both on and off the field.

Arteta has revived the club and raised the bar from a team fighting to finish fourth to a team fighting for the title.

Arteta has created an environment where anything less than a win every week is considered a failure. He has raised the stakes and trophies will inevitably follow when you establish a high performance culture.

 

[KingKhanWC]

I’m back after a couple of months and I’m not surprised to see Amjid still talking absolute nonsense.

I thought he would pipe it down after telling us all summer that Arsenal would miss out on Rice because of lowballing and how they wouldn’t stand a chance of City comes in for him.

Arsenal did brilliant business in the summer but the injury to Timber has been a major blow to Arsenal’s title aspirations.

Rice has been absolutely sensational. A fantastic signing who is worth every penny. He is going to be an Arsenal legend.

Havertz has had a difficult start but I would trust Arteta over folks who probably get sacked on FIFA Career Mode on their Xbox.

The only thing that any player needs is faith from the manager. When you don’t have your manager’s trust, there is no way back. Look at Sancho and Ten Hag.

If Arteta could revive Xhaka’s Arsenal career after he threw his armband to the ground, got sacked as captain and abused the fans, he can also help Havertz achieve his potential.

If he doesn’t he doesn’t. Not the end of the world. He won’t be the first or the last player to fail. He will be sold and life will move on.

If he can turn things around, it will be a huge success story.

This is a wonderful time to be an Arsenal fan and they should be happy to see where the team is currently at and how much they have improved both on and off the field.

Arteta has revived the club and raised the bar from a team fighting to finish fourth to a team fighting for the title.

Arteta has created an environment where anything less than a win every week is considered a failure. He has raised the stakes and trophies will inevitably follow when you establish a high performance culture.

Would you have taken LFC mid signings over Arsenals this summer?


What is your prediction? You were badly wrong(last season), even after throwing it away v LFC and West Ham, you still believed Arsenal would win the league.

 

[Mamoon]

Would you have taken LFC mid signings over Arsenals this summer?


What is your prediction? You were badly wrong(last season), even after throwing it away v LFC and West Ham, you still believed Arsenal would win the league.

I would haven take Szoboszlai. He is a wonderful midfielder with a great engine and leadership skills. He can play different positions too.

I would have backed Arsenal to win the league if Timber wasn’t injured but it will be difficult now because they are still light at the back.

Zinchenko and Tomi are injury prone and I’m surprised that Tierney was allowed to leave especially after Timber got injured.

I fully expect Arsenal to finish top 2 because I have seen nothing from the other teams including Liverpool to feel that they are better placed than Arsenal to challenge City.

City are obvious favorites at this point but let’s see what happens. They could have dip later especially because they have started strongly which is not normal for them.

 

[KingKhanWC]

I would haven take Szoboszlai. He is a wonderful midfielder with a great engine and leadership skills. He can play different positions too.

I would have backed Arsenal to win the league if Timber wasn’t injured but it will be difficult now because they are still light at the back.

Zinchenko and Tomi are injury prone and I’m surprised that Tierney was allowed to leave especially after Timber got injured.

I fully expect Arsenal to finish top 2 because I have seen nothing from the other teams including Liverpool to feel that they are better placed than Arsenal to challenge City.

City are obvious favorites at this point but let’s see what happens. They could have dip later especially because they have started strongly which is not normal for them.

Szobo on another level, way better than Rice in every way. I think Mac Allisater, Szobo and Gravenburch are a better trio of signings overall.

Liverpool have performed better than Arsenal so far but a long way to go.

Top 2 isnt a prediction. You also have had 4 matches to see before you predict, should be easier. Its ok, Ill take your prediction to be City 1st and Arsenal 2nd. What does Areteta need to do or how long does he need before Arsenal wins the league?

 

[Mamoon]

Szobo on another level, way better than Rice in every way. I think Mac Allisater, Szobo and Gravenburch are a better trio of signings overall.

Liverpool have performed better than Arsenal so far but a long way to go.

Top 2 isnt a prediction. You also have had 4 matches to see before you predict, should be easier. Its ok, I’ll take your prediction to be City 1st and Arsenal 2nd. What does Areteta need to do or how long does he need before Arsenal wins the league?

Liverpool would have signed Rice ahead of all of these guys if they could but they were never in the running because they can’t spend £105m on one player and Rice made it clear that he wanted to stay in London.

Rice is an extremely valuable player. The best English player in his position by a mile and one of the best in the world in his position.

Huge credit to Arsenal for pulling this signing off, it has been very difficult for the rivals to digest because someone like Rice would have never considered going to Arsenal 12 months back.

It is Arteta who has lifted the profile of the club and made Arsenal an attractive proposition.

As far as what it would take for Arsenal to win the league, well it isn’t easy to compete with the FFP cheats who have been running away from 115 charges.

The next step for Arsenal is to invest in a premier striker and I think that would be the number one priority next summer.

Jesus and Eddie are good but neither of them is good enough to be the main man who can score 20+ league goals.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Liverpool would have signed Rice ahead of all of these guys if they could but they were never in the running because they can’t spend £105m on one player and Rice made it clear that he wanted to stay in London.

Rice is an extremely valuable player. The best English player in his position by a mile and one of the best in the world in his position.

Huge credit to Arsenal for pulling this signing off, it has been very difficult for the rivals to digest because someone like Rice would have never considered going to Arsenal 12 months back.

It is Arteta who has lifted the profile of the club and made Arsenal an attractive proposition.

As far as what it would take for Arsenal to win the league, well it isn’t easy to compete with the FFP cheats who have been running away from 115 charges.

The next step for Arsenal is to invest in a premier striker and I think that would be the number one priority next summer.

Jesus and Eddie are good but neither of them is good enough to be the main man who can score 20+ league goals.

Not true, LFC made a bid for a similar amount for another midfielder. Rice is not LFC material, we play a different way, he's simply not fast enough for us.


FFP cheats etc is not a good reply, LFC beat City to the title and were a lot closer than Arsenal on other occasions. Arsenals own FFP may come in to question soon.

Why didnt the genius manager buy a striker? I agree without a 20+ goalscorer, Arsenal aint winning the league. FA cup glory is best hope this season.

 

[Mamoon]

Not true, LFC made a bid for a similar amount for another midfielder. Rice is not LFC material, we play a different way, he's simply not fast enough for us.


FFP cheats etc is not a good reply, LFC beat City to the title and were a lot closer than Arsenal on other occasions. Arsenals own FFP may come in to question soon.

Why didnt the genius manager buy a striker? I agree without a 20+ goalscorer, Arsenal aint winning the league. FA cup glory is best hope this season.

Liverpool would love Rice but they couldn’t have him. They got embarrassed by Caicedo and would have been embarrassed by Rice too. It is good they didn’t dare to bid for him.

Rice is thrice the player Henderson is. Better than him at every aspect and he would have been massive for Liverpool. Just because he was out of reach doesn’t mean he isn’t good enough for you lol. He is good enough for any team in the world.

Arteta didn’t buy a ST because other positions were higher priority. It is a step by step process.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Liverpool would love Rice but they couldn’t have him. They got embarrassed by Caicedo and would have been embarrassed by Rice too. It is good they didn’t dare to bid for him.

Rice is thrice the player Henderson is. Better than him at every aspect and he would have been massive for Liverpool. Just because he was out of reach doesn’t mean he isn’t good enough for you lol. He is good enough for any team in the world.

Arteta didn’t buy a ST because other positions were higher priority. It is a step by step process.

Rice is overated due to being English, just like Sancho, McGuire and others. Szobo is far superiour as I stated earlier and 40 million less, younger too.

Arteta could have bought Rice and a striker but he went for an average player who wouldnt make LFC bench in Havertz. Arteta has shown he is not very smart in transfers.

 

[Mamoon]

Rice is overated due to being English, just like Sancho, McGuire and others. Szobo is far superiour as I stated earlier and 40 million less, younger too.

Arteta could have bought Rice and a striker but he went for an average player who wouldnt make LFC bench in Havertz. Arteta has shown he is not very smart in transfers.

Szoboszlai and Rice are different players. They don’t play in the same position even though both are versatile players.

Rice is what Henderson would have been if Henderson had actual talent while Szoboszlai is best utilized in a more offensive position. They can easily play together in the same midfield.

Arteta couldn’t have bought Rice and a ST. You cannot buy an elite ST in the current market for anything less than 100 million + and Arsenal can’t buy two players for that price in one window.

I hope he goes all out for Osimhen next summer. Arsenal can have a free run at him unless Madrid come in for him if they overcome their Mbappe obsession.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Szoboszlai and Rice are different players. They don’t play in the same position even though both are versatile players.

Rice is what Henderson would have been if Henderson had actual talent while Szoboszlai is best utilized in a more offensive position. They can easily play together in the same midfield.

Arteta couldn’t have bought Rice and a ST. You cannot buy an elite ST in the current market for anything less than 100 million + and Arsenal can’t buy two players for that price in one window.

I hope he goes all out for Osimhen next summer. Arsenal can have a free run at him unless Madrid come in for him if they overcome their Mbappe obsession.

I doubt Oshimehn would choose Arsenal over the likes of PSG, City, Madrid or even Barca and LFC. Forget the elites, Arsenal could still have bought an great talent for less than 100m.

Szobo can do what Rice does, even on a Sunday afternoon. Rice has a lot to prove. Hendo lifted the PL and CL trophy, only something Rice will dream of for the rest of his Arsenal career.

For an Arsenal fan to say 2nd is his prediction is strange, after bottling it last year, you'd think they wouldnt make the same mistake again? If not this year, how long does Arteta need?

 

[Mamoon]

I doubt Oshimehn would choose Arsenal over the likes of PSG, City, Madrid or even Barca and LFC. Forget the elites, Arsenal could still have bought an great talent for less than 100m.

Szobo can do what Rice does, even on a Sunday afternoon. Rice has a lot to prove. Hendo lifted the PL and CL trophy, only something Rice will dream of for the rest of his Arsenal career.

For an Arsenal fan to say 2nd is his prediction is strange, after bottling it last year, you'd think they wouldnt make the same mistake again? If not this year, how long does Arteta need?

None of these teams are going for Osimhen next summer except maybe Madrid. This isn’t FIFA.

Barca have Lewa plus they’re broke. Bayern just signed Kane. PSG just signed Muani and City and Liverpool have Haaland and Nunez.

If Arsenal push for it they have a very high chance of securing him next summer.

Only genuine threat is Real who could go for him if they decide to give up on Mbappe.

 

[KingKhanWC]

None of these teams are going for Osimhen next summer except maybe Madrid. This isn’t FIFA.

Barca have Lewa plus they’re broke. Bayern just signed Kane. PSG just signed Muani and City and Liverpool have Haaland and Nunez.

If Arsenal push for it they have a very high chance of securing him next summer.

Only genuine threat is Real who could go for him if they decide to give up on Mbappe.

You are not privy to future transfer goals of any teams . But you think he wants to come to Arsenal, based on what?

If Arsenal are not expected to win the league, 2nd is fantastic. Surely it has to be next season or will finishing 2nd again and again be enough for Arsenal fans?

 

[Mamoon]

You are not privy to future transfer goals of any teams . But you think he wants to come to Arsenal, based on what?

If Arsenal are not expected to win the league, 2nd is fantastic. Surely it has to be next season or will finishing 2nd again and again be enough for Arsenal fans?

He is entering his peak years, he will not stay at Napoli for long and he is not going to wait 2-3 years for other big clubs to go after him.

Arsenal is an extremely attractive option for any top player right now. A team full of talented players, a charismatic manager who has the full love and admiration of his players, great stadium, London, a team in ascendency.

It is understandable that rival fans cannot digest the fact that Arsenal have become an attractive club again. They thought the days of having bums finishing 8th will never change.

 

[KingKhanWC]

He is entering his peak years, he will not stay at Napoli for long and he is not going to wait 2-3 years for other big clubs to go after him.

Arsenal is an extremely attractive option for any top player right now. A team full of talented players, a charismatic manager who has the full love and admiration of his players, great stadium, London, a team in ascendency.

It is understandable that rival fans cannot digest the fact that Arsenal have become an attractive club again. They thought the days of having bums finishing 8th will never change.

I always liked Arsenal as they were the main rivals to Utd. But you need to be realistic, Oshimen is the hottest striker going after Haaland last season, not sure why he'd choose Arsenal or if you can pay over £100 million again.

Ivan Toney is the best choice for Arsenal. Tell Arteta to send my cheque in the post for pointing him in the right direction.

 

[Amjid Javed]

Ye I saw the gap earlier when looking at the fixtures. Does break momentum for teams, but at the same time gives injured players less games to miss if injured over international breaks.
There is always fear players will get injured in pointless friendlies that nobody cares about apart from Harry Maguire who gets some game time.
I believe there is another one in November to, then there is normally none till Spring

There is Afcons in January / Feb, Asia cup in January / Feb. So Partey, elneny and tomiyassu will be gone for a month. so the club Need to prepared, can't afford shambolic squad management like 2 seasons ago when Afcons was on. Most of our players seem to gey injured on international duty

 

[Amjid Javed]

Seems like some people can't make a straight prediction because they got humilated like a coward "oh Arsensl will finish top 2" which is it 1st or 2nd?

Seems like the Mr "It is in the bag" is still wiping egg of his face.

When uve grown a spine come back a definitive answer.

Usual flip flip predictions every week expected, because he's scared of being wrong.

 

[Amjid Javed]

I’m back after a couple of months and I’m not surprised to see Amjid still talking absolute nonsense.

I thought he would pipe it down after telling us all summer that Arsenal would miss out on Rice because of lowballing and how they wouldn’t stand a chance of City comes in for him.

Arsenal did brilliant business in the summer but the injury to Timber has been a major blow to Arsenal’s title aspirations.

Rice has been absolutely sensational. A fantastic signing who is worth every penny. He is going to be an Arsenal legend.

Havertz has had a difficult start but I would trust Arteta over folks who probably get sacked on FIFA Career Mode on their Xbox.

The only thing that any player needs is faith from the manager. When you don’t have your manager’s trust, there is no way back. Look at Sancho and Ten Hag.

If Arteta could revive Xhaka’s Arsenal career after he threw his armband to the ground, got sacked as captain and abused the fans, he can also help Havertz achieve his potential.

If he doesn’t he doesn’t. Not the end of the world. He won’t be the first or the last player to fail. He will be sold and life will move on.

If he can turn things around, it will be a huge success story.

This is a wonderful time to be an Arsenal fan and they should be happy to see where the team is currently at and how much they have improved both on and off the field.

Arteta has revived the club and raised the bar from a team fighting to finish fourth to a team fighting for the title.

Arteta has created an environment where anything less than a win every week is considered a failure. He has raised the stakes and trophies will inevitably follow when you establish a high performance culture.

the copy and paste bed time stories have returned. Already making excuse for havertz failure with "if he fails it doesn't matter"

The fact you can't definitively predict Arsenal final position and your sitting on the fence shows all your chest beating bravado is a scam. "Finishing top 2" nonsense.

Its either 1st or 2nd. Your just trying to avoid humiliation, having to run off and hide everything because you ego has been beaten black and blue.

 

[Amjid Javed]

Top 2 isnt a prediction. You also have had 4 matches to see before you predict, should be easier. Its ok, Ill take your prediction to be City 1st and Arsenal 2nd. What does Areteta need to do or how long does he need before Arsenal wins the league?

you actually think think after last seasons humiliation he was going to give you an Answer.

He may aswell have said "Arsenal are finishing in top 20" only reason he won't give a direct Answer is he's got no faith in Arsenal winning title. He got egg on his face last year and ran off into hiding, he don't want any of that smoke again.

All the chest beating, superfan is just a scam.

Everyone else has given a prediction. unlike a fence sitter who will just change his prediction along with his underwear once a week.

A guy who is already making excuse for havertz, who According to him was going to turn haverz into prime beckenbauer-mattheus-klinsmann hybrid

 

[Amjid Javed]

Rice is overated due to being English, just like Sancho, McGuire and others. Szobo is far superiour as I stated earlier and 40 million less, younger too.

Arteta could have bought Rice and a striker but he went for an average player who wouldnt make LFC bench in Havertz. Arteta has shown he is not very smart in transfers.

Spot on in regards to havertz, already Arteta fan boys using excuse Arsenal didn't have money to spend on elite striker. Yet spunked away money on havertz, with CL football this season Arsenal could have easily spent 250M in this transfer window.

 

[Amjid Javed]

As far as what it would take for Arsenal to win the league, well it isn’t easy to compete with the FFP cheats who have been running away from 115 charges.

Absolutely lame and pathetic excuse, you harped on about Arsenal having title in bag last season, now making excuse they can't compete.

Liverpool showed with a top class manager and getting your signings spot on over a certain time period you can win a league.

You beat your chest doing bhangra like Arteta is some sort of elite manager but then your full of excuses. Elite managers don't make sake stupid mistakes running to bottle a EL semi, top 4 race and title race.

I've been lucky enough to see two of 3 greatest managers at the club in George Graham and Arsene wenger.

GG took 2 titles off dominat Liverpool team and ended their domination era. AW took 3 titles of fergie. Elite managers win titles vs best of there era.

GG was one of best tactical managers we've ever had. Winning domestic titles and European trophies with tactical brilliance. Current fan base getting gassed up over mediocre player like crychenko. Oh he's a midfielder who can move from defence to midfielder. Inverted nonsense, it's called a "sweeper" go back and see David o leary do same thing in late 80s and 90s.

The over hype these days of a manager who is 3 trophyless seasons in a row and probably likely a 4th this season and still some frauds will defend him.

 

[MK7Z]

I always liked Arsenal as they were the main rivals to Utd. But you need to be realistic, Oshimen is the hottest striker going after Haaland last season, not sure why he'd choose Arsenal or if you can pay over £100 million again.

Ivan Toney is the best choice for Arsenal. Tell Arteta to send my cheque in the post for pointing him in the right direction.

Who would he choose instead? Arsenal have pull whether rivals fans like it or not. I would be concerned about Liverpools pull to be honest. Been rejected multiple times recently with a world class manager like klopp. The 2 top players they did get this season both had release clauses.

United have pull because they will pay stupid amounts in wages not because of their stature.

Man City have Pep

So who in the Premier League currently has more pull than Arsenal? The London Factor is massive to.

Real, Barca you cant compete with tbh, if they come for a player the player will move.

Price tag is more of a Valid point on whether we would spend that much again on a single player, which makes Havertz signing all the more bizarre. 60 million Havertz + 40 million Balogun , could have got something at some point.

Evan Ferguson of Brighton looks special - i would go for him but Brighton drive a hard bargain.

 

[hassan918]

Arsenal have announced their Champions League Squad

https://twitter.com/x/status/1701612326145954290

 

[KingKhanWC]

Who would he choose instead? Arsenal have pull whether rivals fans like it or not. I would be concerned about Liverpools pull to be honest. Been rejected multiple times recently with a world class manager like klopp. The 2 top players they did get this season both had release clauses.

United have pull because they will pay stupid amounts in wages not because of their stature.

Man City have Pep

So who in the Premier League currently has more pull than Arsenal? The London Factor is massive to.

Real, Barca you cant compete with tbh, if they come for a player the player will move.

Price tag is more of a Valid point on whether we would spend that much again on a single player, which makes Havertz signing all the more bizarre. 60 million Havertz + 40 million Balogun , could have got something at some point.

Evan Ferguson of Brighton looks special - i would go for him but Brighton drive a hard bargain.

Liverpool has a bigger pull than Arsenal due to history, club size and recent success of winning trophies, not to mention a great team already present.

You are alluding to the two midfielders from Brighton and Saints. Chelsea are throwing money away, offering higher wages. LFC were also working out deals with two better players in my opinion. Im glad we didnt get those two over Szobo and Gravenberch.

Ivan Tony as recently made it clear, he supports LFC but would also love a move to Arsenal. In January it would be a great buy , as he is a 20+ PL goalscorer in the making.

 

[Firebat]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1701230343804621092

 

[Mamoon]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1701230343804621092

Too bad Arteta met Rice before Amjid and KKWC could meet him in Alum Rock to convince him how much of a fraud Arteta is.

 

[Amjid Javed]

Too bad Arteta met Rice before Amjid and KKWC could meet him in Alum Rock to convince him how much of a fraud Arteta is.

To bad you keep twerking for a mediocre manager who has bottled it at end of last 3 seasons.

For all your chest beating you can't even give a straight prediction to what actual single position Arsenal will finish.

When you grow a spine, then feel free to try and banter others

 

[MK7Z]

Liverpool has a bigger pull than Arsenal due to history, club size and recent success of winning trophies, not to mention a great team already present.

You are alluding to the two midfielders from Brighton and Saints. Chelsea are throwing money away, offering higher wages. LFC were also working out deals with two better players in my opinion. Im glad we didnt get those two over Szobo and Gravenberch.

Ivan Tony as recently made it clear, he supports LFC but would also love a move to Arsenal. In January it would be a great buy , as he is a 20+ PL goalscorer in the making.

Keep believing that. Has not been the case for a long time. Name a world class player that has come to them from a big team that other teams wanted. I cant think of anyone. Liverpool have made very good players even better but pulling a player that other teams want has not happened.

A great team already present? We shall see as last season was a farce for Liverpool. Time will tell but the Hungarian lad is excellent i have to say.

I genuinely cannot think of anyone. Suarez and Coutinho ran as soon as Barca came calling

When Alexis moved to the Emirates Liverpool fans invented a story that his wife wanted to move to London otherwise he would have chosen Liverpool. This was all their cope mechanism as he was never married at the time lol!

Henderson was "twerking" (as AJ would put it) with Bellingham - how did that turn out? tchouameni is another who picked Real.

VVS and Allison come close but again I think they became world class after which is my point. Liverpool cant pull sought after players. HistoryPool does not work anymore.

Recent success and History? How about the starvation in between. 30 Years 1 PL. Just another Blackburn and Leicester.

Ye ye i know i cant speak until Arsenal win a CL... i will accept that lol. You just need to accept Arsenal are a bigger pull.

 

[MK7Z]

Whats he done , apart from a late goal v Utd?

You hate Rice for whatever reason but if you watched the Games we have played so Far Rice has been stand out player.

So you know - won player of the Month. Thats normally how it works

 

[MK7Z]

Keep believing that. Has not been the case for a long time. Name a world class player that has come to them from a big team that other teams wanted. I cant think of anyone. Liverpool have made very good players even better but pulling a player that other teams want has not happened.

A great team already present? We shall see as last season was a farce for Liverpool. Time will tell but the Hungarian lad is excellent i have to say.

I genuinely cannot think of anyone. Suarez and Coutinho ran as soon as Barca came calling

When Alexis moved to the Emirates Liverpool fans invented a story that his wife wanted to move to London otherwise he would have chosen Liverpool. This was all their cope mechanism as he was never married at the time lol!

Henderson was "twerking" (as AJ would put it) with Bellingham - how did that turn out? tchouameni is another who picked Real.

VVS and Allison come close but again I think they became world class after which is my point. Liverpool cant pull sought after players. HistoryPool does not work anymore.

Recent success and History? How about the starvation in between. 30 Years 1 PL. Just another Blackburn and Leicester.

Ye ye i know i cant speak until Arsenal win a CL... i will accept that lol. You just need to accept Arsenal are a bigger pull.

Also I forgot to mention Suarez begged for Liverpool to let him Join Arsenal with the whole 40 Million +£1 debacle.

Firminio had a clause in his contract that Arsenal were not allowed to sign him... Bigger pull you say??

 

[MK7Z]

15 players who turned down tranfers to Liverpool after Caicedo & Lavia snubs

Turns out Caicedo and Lavia aren’t the only players to have chosen Pochettino over Klopp 😬

www.givemesport.com

LiverNoPull FC. The above are a few rejections. Weird for a so called historic big club eh!

 

[hassan918]

Arsenal's squad list for the first half of the 2023/24 season

Mohamed Elneny
Kai Havertz
James Hillson*
Gabriel Jesus
Jorginho
Jakub Kiwior
Gabriel Magalhaes
Gabriel Martinelli
Reiss Nelson*
Eddie Nketiah*
Martin Odegaard
Thomas Partey
Aaron Ramsdale*
David Raya*
Declan Rice*
Bukayo Saka*
William Saliba*
Emile Smith Rowe*
Cedric Soares
Jurrien Timber
Takehiro Tomiyasu
Leandro Trossard
Fabio Vieira
Ben White*
Oleksandr Zinchenko

* Home Grown Player

ARSENAL

 

[Mamoon]

No one cares about Liverpool anymore. They have illustrious history, amazing fans and a great manager at the moment but for some reason, they are not an attractive club. Perhaps it has a lot to do with the dreary weather and atmosphere of the city.

Liverpool have a difficult time attracting players who are also attracting interest from City, Chelsea, Arsenal and United.

In recent years, VVD is the only prominent example of someone who rejected another top English club (City) for Liverpool.

 

[Firebat]

1 week until Arsenal's return to the Champions League.

https://x.com/i/web/status/1701914872689414544

Getting tickets are as hard as it's been for the last few years. I got official tickets for Unai Emery's first PL game in charge (Man City) with ease, now it's a struggle to get to an Arsenal - PSV game! I guess that's good for the club.

 

[Firebat]

Juventus are lining up Arsenal's 30-year-old Ghana midfielder Thomas Partey as a potential replacement for France midfielder Paul Pogba, 30, whose contract could be terminated if he is found to have breached anti-doping rules. (La Repubblica)

 

[Mamoon]

Whats he done , apart from a late goal v Utd?

Arsenal have won 3 out of 4 league games so far and he was Man of the Match in two of this wins - Crystal Palace (A) and United (H).

At Palace, he was instrumental in ensuring Arsenal hold onto the 1-0 lead after being reduced to 10 men with Palace throwing numbers forward.

Against United, it wasn’t just the late goal but his performance throughout the match. He had the most interceptions and ball recoveries.

In fact, the early chance that Havertz fluffed was created by Rice himself when he brilliantly intercepted the ball from Bruno and carried it forward.

He has been Arsenal best player so far and is doing exactly what he was bought to do. His impact on the team and the club is already clear.

People with an agenda against Arsenal are obviously unhappy that he chose Arsenal over other top 6 clubs so they keep inventing new metrics to bring him down.

The funniest that I have heard so far is that he doesn’t score enough goals. Surely that must be a joke. Since when do number of goals matter for a defensive midfielder.

Busquets, the greatest DM of all time, scored 11 league goals in 480+ games for Barcelona.

Rice doesn’t need to add anything else to his game. It doesn’t matter what the crybabies say. He simply needs to continue what he is doing.

Arsenal bought him for his leadership and defensive intelligence not for adding goals to his game to please Roy Keane and Souness.

The future England captain will either be an Arsenal player or a Madrid player, and this fact is very hurtful for most people.

 

[MK7Z]

Mamoon Spitting facts!

 

[hassan918]

Declan Rice has been nominated for the Best FIFA Men’s Player at the 2023 Awards.

 

[topspin]

Too bad Arteta met Rice before Amjid and KKWC could meet him in Alum Rock to convince him how much of a fraud Arteta is.

Thank you! This is exactly what I've been saying for the last few years on PP.

To say "Liverpool has a bigger pull than Arsenal" fits the profile of an Alum Rock football armchair critic.

 

[topspin]

BUT BUT BUT

"Liverpool has a bigger pull than Arsenal"

PS I wish Havertz did choose Bayern for that matter.

 

[MK7Z]

My last message on this matter. Dont forget Klopp has been sniffing round Saka and Martinelli for a couple of years now

 

[Mamoon]

Liverpool will fall into obscurity soon because of their lack of pull. A lot of things fell in place for them over the last few years to achieve success.

They got a quality manager, they unearthed a few gems and some top players came through their academy. Everything fell in place together.

In the long-term, they will find it hard to be better than City, Arsenal, United and Chelsea because they have less money and pull than these clubs.

Arsenal is back and with a bang. With a highly regarded and charismatic manager at the helm and deep pockets, there is no stopping Arsenal now. They can achieve everything.

It is a very exciting period to be an Arsenal fan and it is only the start, the next 4-5 years are going to be a hell of a ride.

I’m certain it will be very similar if not better than the 1997-2005 period.

I expect at least two league titles in the next 4/5 years and hopefully a UCL too.

 

[SpiritOf1903]

Some hoodoo v Everton

 

[Amjid Javed]

Liverpool will fall into obscurity soon because of their lack of pull. A lot of things fell in place for them over the last few years to achieve success.

They got a quality manager, they unearthed a few gems and some top players came through their academy. Everything fell in place together.

In the long-term, they will find it hard to be better than City, Arsenal, United and Chelsea because they have less money and pull than these clubs.

Arsenal is back and with a bang. With a highly regarded and charismatic manager at the helm and deep pockets, there is no stopping Arsenal now. They can achieve everything.

It is a very exciting period to be an Arsenal fan and it is only the start, the next 4-5 years are going to be a hell of a ride.

I’m certain it will be very similar if not better than the 1997-2005 period.

I expect at least two league titles in the next 4/5 years and hopefully a UCL too.

Delusion at its finest, all this chest beating yet couldn't even give a straight position finish for Arsenal.

Similar period to 97-2005? If not better - the club won 3 PL titles, 4 FA cups (PL / FA cup double) and an invincible season.

You think under current bottle job manager who has bottled the last 3 seasons and has had his pants taken down in Europe in europa league is going to win a CL and a few PL titles off Man city.

I've heard some stupid comparisons in my time but this is comedy gold.

Let's see the flip flop excuses if it's a 4th trophyless season In a row.

Never seen someone twerk for mediocrity as much as you. Embarrassing to say the least.

 

[MK7Z]

I back the manager cos thats all there is to do. Does not mean I accept lower standards but I am willing to see the level he can take us. He is to far down the line now.

However... having said that I do think he is under pressure to get something this season. Preferably the big 2 or FA cup bare minimum and even then it will be under whelming. What I am trying to say is if this season the trajectory is not up then might be time to realise Arteta is not that guy.