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Brody has looked on the verge of spontaneously combusting since episode 3, would IMO be implausible for him to still be Nazir's trump card at heart.
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It has it's own style, it's more realistic and plausible, if I can put it that way. Get through the first season and you'll be hooked.Is this show shot like the shield or Bourne ultimatum? Lot of handheld cameras and stuff? I am interested to watch.
I don't see the first season as one to 'get through', maybe the first few episodes. Episode 6 onwards is mega
its only 13 eps a season which isnt much..hence doing a third shouldnt be a problem..
I would like to see more about brodie as a muslim and how his family and those around him react to that.. Also (yes this is a massive longshot considering who developed this show etc) a move away from the easy Nazir is a bad guy trying to kill amreekis and the brave but human CIA will stop him eventually..what if walden is the man behind it all? what if he uses estes and the cia and nazir to help him get elected with sweeping anti liberty powers??
Lewis will probably relinquish his Emmy next year, he is nowhere near as sympathetic and nuanced as last time. To be frank he is getting a bit hammy.
But Claire Danes...wow. Surely she has to retain her gong. Genuinely brilliant acting again - she continues to raise the bar. Her scene with Nazir this week was one of the best of the season.
Thats because they have made Brody's character too weak all of a sudden. He was much more ruthless, complicated and solid last year.
This year all it took was one episode for them to break him and turn him in their favor. Now, after the latest episode, it looks like he is silly putty in the hands of CIA or Abu Nazir and both sides tend to use him as they please with him having zero say in the matter. He seems utterly lost and helpless and lets the tide take him in whatever direction. He does not seem to be as calculated and cautious as he was last season. Most of his actions are spur of the moment and reactionary this time around. But the show has managed to maintain its brilliance due to its fast pace and unexpected turns and some solid work by claire danes and the g uy who plays abu nazir.
What I do want to see before this season ends, is Brody ***** slapping the crap out of Roya Hammad. I hate that woman.
It's hard to tell whether his apparent weakness is just an act though, given what happened in the scene with the Vice President. He seemed to be in on the whole thing.
Well he is conflicted, that is for sure. He wants revenge for death of Abu Nazir's kid and he wants to change the system from inside out without killing innocent civilians but ever since CIA got his confession video, he has been made to look like a rag doll in their hands. He is not completely in control in my opinion and it shows now. Even in the latest epi, his actions in the VP's office were basically driven due to the opportunity presenting itself and his desperate desire to protect Carrie, I dont think he would have planned something like that himself, is what I am saying.
That takes away some of the edge away from his character.
Not sure hey. They didn't show the entire scene between him and Nazir during a previous episode. They went directly from him being interrogated to the two of them praying together, leaving me feeling that there's crucial info missing.
The protecting Carrie thing could have been an act for her to witness, as was Nazir laying into him for "betraying" him. And it almost seems like he was expecting the VP's heart attack, and that it was not a matter of circumstance.
^Well Nazir basically told Brody what would happen when they had the serial number...
SPOILER ALERT..
Brody wanted VP dead there is no question about it. That had been his mission all along. he just didnt want other collateral damage with it which is why he didnt do the deed in the disaster room last season. well that and that he didnt want to kill himself either when his daughter called him.
So I will not really think too much about what he did in the last episode. this was a given, sort of that at the first safe opportunity, he would off the VP. But if he had been acting like that all along as a part of elaborate plan with Abu Nazir is questionable. I think it is more a case of opportunity presenting itself and him taking advantage of it.
Not sure hey. They didn't show the entire scene between him and Nazir during a previous episode. They went directly from him being interrogated to the two of them praying together, leaving me feeling that there's crucial info missing.
The protecting Carrie thing could have been an act for her to witness, as was Nazir laying into him for "betraying" him. And it almost seems like he was expecting the VP's heart attack, and that it was not a matter of circumstance.
what episode are we up to in the UK ?
One behind the US.
Its become a bit like season 1 which got gradually stronger but then didn't finish so strongly...hopefully the final episode will surprise me...
aannndd....bored now..thought this show would have really twisted things but then i come back to reality and realise americans have written it based on an isreali show. personally I would kill off carrie! but hey thats just me. And I would actually show some CIA agents doing what they "really" do around the wall instead of the "cuddly" "nice" saul and the heroic but flawed carrie. What made it worse is she suddenly became an islamic scholar overnight! whoppedy doo. And Brody is a Muslim? er yeah Hollywood Muslim more like. The show had so much potential to engage the viewer in a sliglty different way but is now just 24 Plus. Ultimatley I guess the overall narrative just wont ever change. I was hoping they would have expanded on Brodies conflict of being Muslim and juggling all these new problems that brings, but alas. And also upping the ante in the CIA.
Yes ok you can argue that Estes is upto no good but isnt he still the good guy? For me its just not brave enough.
ok just saw the penultimate episode and it was better. for me the best bit was in the interrogation room between Roya and Carrie. About time they did something like this. Not everyone wants to join the godamned CIA carrie!!
Yeah the way Nazir got revenge on Brody from beyond the grave was just brilliant!! A very neatly edited sequence leading up the shock detonation. And when the video started playing on the news report, I got it all completely, and my mouth dropped. Great screenwriting.
Saul had seen the video before though, so perhaps he will understand that Brody was framed.
...or was he framed? eeeeeek.
Today I am finally done with watching season 2.
David Estes , Galves and other 430 intelligence officers were dead in the finale but how come not Saul? Was he involved in CIA's attack if Brody did not do it? Why was he reluctant to do his lie detector test previously?
The only thing I liked about the second season was its Finale.
Overall, decent show so far.
He was only just released by Estes...and as for why he was reluctant to answer any questions...its cos he knew it was a sham hence his constant comments about an assassination on Brodie...the purpose of the lie detector test was for Estes to shaft him...
Saul recites words in Hebrew as a form of prayer. He is an American Jew.
Great final episode...for all the cussing I have done of Nazir and how incompetent hes been made to appear...it seems that he was the smartest of everyone all along...the part with Brodie's confession playing on CNN was brilliant...also the way they made Nazir's burial coincide with the bombing was smart work...
Good episode after a slow start...how Quinn must be feeling now...I presume he will have some involvement in catching Brodie in season 3...wonder how Carrie is going to explain her disappearance to Saul...
Ending made the previous disappointing episodes seem less disappointing...
Third season starting when? is it today or jan 16?
September the 29th. That's far too long to wait!
Watched both Season 1 and 2 in 3 days. Simply brilliant show, my favt characters are Saul and Virgil (Albeit having a minute side kick role) and one character which I hate to the core is Dana Brody (Geez! Can she be anymore of a drama-queen?) Always coming up with an irritating facial expression and incoherent mumble as dialog delivery(makers of Homeland plz kill this dumbo real quick)
The episode where Brody was in the bunker with the vice president had me almost sweating.
Just finished the first episode. So ignored all the comments above
Pretty good pilot. Gets you hooked. Will watch the rest tomorrow. I quite liked the characters. Lot of acting with the eyes and body language. Mystery seems to be interesting enough.
PS: Why does Nicholas Brody's wife call him Brody?![]()