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India v England | India win 4th Test against England by an innings and 36 runs in Mumbai

street cricketer said:
That is what grinds me the most.

Never aims higher and gets happy with just an eighty or a hundred. It's why his career average gives a lopsided impression.
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Tbh i find that to be a very common thing abou his generation of Tamilians(pardon the generalization) being contented ,Ash is a nice exception and hopefully he keeps thriving.
 
With Ashwin, Jayant and Jadeja coming in the lower order, India should at least match what England has put on the board at this point. They will still need to get decent lead otherwise I don't see them winning as they have to bat on this surface in the 4th inning.
 
cric_fanatic said:
Indian batters have looked fairly comfortable so far. Could look at a sizeable lead by the end of day.
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They have looked comfortable but both could have just as easily been softly dismissed by caught behind too.

England had the same issue. Moeen and Stokes looked like they won't survive another over with the way they were batting but they did and started scoring runs.

If bowlers get lucky, they could snag a few just like that. If they ain't lucky, they have to slog hard to earn those wickets.
 
Chrish said:
With Ashwin, Jayant and Jadeja coming in the lower order, India should at least match what England has put on the board at this point. They will still need to get decent lead otherwise I don't see them winning as they have to bat on this surface in the 4th inning.
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150 behind with 8 wickets in hand, i would back them to get a lead for sure. What remains to be seen if the lead can stretch to 100 or more. A lot will depend on the next session
 
Yeah it's been a miracle how Vijay has managed to survive Rashid..

Anyways have a feeling he wouldn't last long.. Has become bit too lax after 100
 
All good until now. But like somebody once said ,the batting lineup is like a bicycle stand on this pitch. One push and with that all others follow.
 
Anderson 35 runs 0 wkts, Rashid 63 runs 0 wkts... Botham is enjoying the performance of the English teletubbies.
 
Vivek_86 said:
All good until now. But like somebody once said ,the batting lineup is like a bicycle stand on this pitch. One push and with that all others follow.
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Too much pessimism in your very first post to the forum!
 
With Vijay, off late at least, looks tired towards the end of a session, more than being discontented. and hence, the lapse in concentration.
 
Day 3 Lunch

India 247/2 (83.0 ov)
India trail by 153 runs with 8 wickets remaining in the 1st innings

Virat Kohli (rhb) 44 (86)
Murali Vijay (rhb) 124 (267)
 
In 2016 most runs scored are by batsmen are:

1. Root
2. Kohli
3. Warner
4. Smith
5. Williamson
 
JaDed said:
Tbh i find that to be a very common thing abou his generation of Tamilians(pardon the generalization) being contented ,Ash is a nice exception and hopefully he keeps thriving.
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Couldn't agree more. The 'apna kaam khatam' attitude needs a check. I have experienced this first hand.
 
sensible-indian-fan said:
Or maybe an accurate impression.

Will just do enough to avoid criticism.
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I was talking more from an ability wise perspective. He averages some 39 or 40 odd which gives you the impression that he's mediocre or an FTB or sth like that. But he is actually one of the few batsmen in world cricket who have proven themselves in different conditions. Yet, he is just content to make just a good contribution and get out.

I was actually surprised when he was getting out to the short deliveries and English commentators were saying that he has been found out. Because he is usually very good against the short ball, not that he is a great puller but he leaves the ball with great technique ducking and swaying from it and not getting into awkard positions which Pujara and Rahane sometimes find themselves in. I remember him making a patient hundred at Mohali I think with Sachin when the Australians kept bowling short balls to him. But he kept ducking under them so much so that he bored the Aussie bowlers into changing plans. Hence when his struggle againt the short ball was a bit surprising tbh.
 
JaDed said:
Tbh i find that to be a very common thing abou his generation of Tamilians(pardon the generalization) being contented ,Ash is a nice exception and hopefully he keeps thriving.
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Yeah most tamilians are kinda introverts in a way and happy to be away from the likelight. TN actually produced a generation of cricketers who used to be very good at Ranji but fail under pressure and expectations in international cricket.

Srikanth and Ashwin were probably the only exceptions. Srikanth had a bit of a devil may care attitude which helped him while Ashwin is an extrovert and a very confident guy which reflects in his performances.
 
England are waiting for this partnership to break before taking new ball. Then they are hoping to break through the inexperienced middle order and the strong late order batting through new ball. But Ashwin & Jadeja did well against new ball in previous test matches.
 
With the exception of The Ashes, a 5 Test match series is an overkill. I personally lost interest after the third Test, it has been going on for too long now.

A 5 match Test series is like watching a 7 match ODI series. 3 Tests, 5 ODIs and 3 T20s is the perfect combination.
 
Mamoon said:
With the exception of The Ashes, a 5 Test match series is an overkill. I personally lost interest after the third Test, it has been going on for too long now.

A 5 match Test series is like watching a 7 match ODI series. 3 Tests, 5 ODIs and 3 T20s is the perfect combination.
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If so , then why is Ashes an exception?
 
Vivek_86 said:
Ha ha.. I am happy at the situation right now but you can say I am cherophobiac.
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Nice, learned a new word today :)

Welcome to the forum.

Vijay just got out, but keep the faith. Lots of batting still to come.
 
Vivek_86 said:
If so , then why is Ashes an exception?
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It's the most traditional rivalry in cricket and no Test series can match it. It has always been 5 Tests so an exception can be made for it.

In general, 25 days of cricket in one format is just too much for a series.
 
Mamoon said:
It's the most traditional rivalry in cricket and no Test series can match it. It has always been 5 Tests so an exception can be made for it.

In general, 25 days of cricket in one format is just too much for a series.
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What if somehow its India vs Pak....
 
cringeworthy to say the least. That ball could have been put anywhere in the ground but he puts it back to Rashid
 
Cook was keeping Rashid back when he is turning it so big and troubling batsmen.
 
Last recognized pair for us on crease... Then comes a bunch of bowling allrounders... :(
 
HitWicket said:
Shamsuddin, I thought he got to the right decision there but didn't expect it to get overturned to be honest.
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It was definitely the right decision, but it took way too long. We can't have pauses that long in the middle of the match, it ruins the moment. It was obvious right away with the snickometer technology that there was no inside edge.
 
This is a gun shot Parthiv.

We will always get runs if we just hang around.

Have to take the game to the 4th day for the pitch to start playing up consistently. Even then, there isn't guarantee pitch would be a landmine. But likely though.
 
Ankit007 said:
200 more needed for India to make some match out of it
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200 more to win. England aint recovering from a 100 run deficit here.

100 more to keep it even stevens. We bat last but have better spinners.

Conceding a lead in this pitch can be fatal.
 
Although parthiv basically rubished Moeen and Rashid yesterday, he forgot to mention Joe Roots world class part timers that just got him out :D.
 
India may not get to 400 here if Eng keeps it tight.
 
Overconfidence and all that talk. Hes probably better off at the top facing fast bowlers. His defence to spinners looks ordinary
 
sensible-indian-fan said:
200 more to win. England aint recovering from a 100 run deficit here.

100 more to keep it even stevens. We bat last but have better spinners.

Conceding a lead in this pitch can be fatal.
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Agreed.. But If we get a 100 runs lead and they make 250... Then do you think we will get 150 in 4th innings and perhaps in two sessions left?
 
This is exactly why Indian batting is shaky.

260/2 to 305/5 and then expect lower order to help them out.

Could have EASILY dominated this game and went for 400/4 or 400/5....easily....but nooooo we have to go to 300/5 and work like a mule to get to the total.
 
Ankit007 said:
Agreed.. But If we get a 100 runs lead and they make 250... Then do you think we will get 150 in 4th innings and perhaps in two sessions left?
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Chances are there due to their lack of spinners.

But depends on how the pitch is too.

But I would back us to get 150 in 4th innings.

Anyways...100 run lead seems a pipe dream now. Lower order have to pull something special out of their hat.
 
sensible-indian-fan said:
This is exactly why Indian batting is shaky.

260/2 to 305/5 and then expect lower order to help them out.

Could have EASILY dominated this game and went for 400/4 or 400/5....easily....but nooooo we have to go to 300/5 and work like a mule to get to the total.
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This happened like 1545678th time in the last few years. India would be 230/2 or at worse 3 most of the times, only to struggle to reach 400 in the end.
 
sensible-indian-fan said:
Chances are there due to their lack of spinners.

But depends on how the pitch is too.

But I would back us to get 150 in 4th innings.

Anyways...100 run lead seems a pipe dream now. Lower order have to pull something special out of their hat.
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Even a 50 run lead looks difficult now. That could still be critical here.
 
Everyone talking abt lead we will end up with a deficit here,hopefully this ends up being the low score of Ash.
 
Great job, Eng is ahead now. Needs to wrap up Indian tail quickly here and score some runs.
 
Should score at least 360. Should not give a lead of more than 40. Even that looks difficult now.
 
Cook goes off the field and Root takes over the captaincy, brings himself on to bowl immediately and takes 2/4 off 2 overs, not too shabby :D.
 
Our batting always goes by a set template. Good partnership at the top of the order followed by an inevitable middle order collapse followed by a decent lower order resistance. This time I don't think the lower order can do much here.
 
HitWicket said:
Cook goes off the field and Root takes over the captaincy, brings himself on to bowl immediately and takes 2/4 off 2 overs, not too shabby :D.
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Cook shouldn't be captain , he has been pretty ordinary with bowling changes.
 
Root looks like a better bowler than Moeen already. Not sure if that's pleasing or embarrassing.
 
HitWicket said:
Cook goes off the field and Root takes over the captaincy, brings himself on to bowl immediately and takes 2/4 off 2 overs, not too shabby :D.
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Lol Vaughan always says "2 spinners are enough for England. If needed, Joe Root can bowl some of his filth".

Might need to rethink that.:yk
 
James said:
Root looks like a better bowler than Moeen already. Not sure if that's pleasing or embarrassing.
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Ali was bowling too short and allowed batsmen to sit back.
 
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