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Amjid Javed said:
Arsenal fans won't understand? you've probably seen Liverpool win 2 league titles in your entire life time.

Don't get to carried away with stuff. Some Arsenal fans know exactly what should have been done on Sunday and didn't happen. Don't start portraying aj entire fan base on a select few fans
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My apologies, @IMMY69 not included in Arsenal fans.

I hope you guys win something this year, Arteta is causing mental health issues to the fans. :)
 
KingKhanWC said:
https://twitter.com/x/status/1962817779372794019

Smart guy finally he will
Win a proper trophy
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WOAH WOAH WOAH hold it there a minute - Win a proper trophy?

Are you implying the league cup is not a proper trophy? The very trophy which you have won more than any other club. The trophy that has played a significant part in the title of " Most successful club in England".

Are you now saying that is not a proper trophy?
@Amjid Javed @Geordie Ahmed - interesting isn't it?
 
MK7Z said:
WOAH WOAH WOAH hold it there a minute - Win a proper trophy?

Are you implying the league cup is not a proper trophy? The very trophy which you have won more than any other club. The trophy that has played a significant part in the title of " Most successful club in England".

Are you now saying that is not a proper trophy?
@Amjid Javed @Geordie Ahmed - interesting isn't it?
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Liverpool are the most successful club due to 20 PL titles and 6 CL cups. League cup is good but its nice to wind up Geordies while they are already down. :)
 
KingKhanWC said:
Liverpool are the most successful club due to 20 PL titles and 6 CL cups. League cup is good but its nice to wind up Geordies while they are already down. :)
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It's all good, I was at the trophy parade so know what it meant to me

Speaking of trophy parades, didn't Liverpool hold one for the FA Cup and League Cup? Did you turn up?
 
I presume Premier League and Champions league Trophies are all that matters.

Utd been ridiculed recently, even though no doubting our Poor Premier league form, we won the FA cup and Carling Cup.
 
Geordie Ahmed said:
It's all good, I was at the trophy parade so know what it meant to me

Speaking of trophy parades, didn't Liverpool hold one for the FA Cup and League Cup? Did you turn up?
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That was a double, imagination might help. It was booked as we were 2 goals from winning the quad, imagination wont help, try asking Mamoon for drawing crayons.
 
KingKhanWC said:
That was a double, imagination might help. It was booked as we were 2 goals from winning the quad, imagination wont help, try asking Mamoon for drawing crayons.
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Its all perspective isn't it.

If I remember correctly - you could also say you were 2 penalty shootouts from not winning anything.
 
MK7Z said:
Its all perspective isn't it.

If I remember correctly - you could also say you were 2 penalty shootouts from not winning anything.
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Fair point but I would take being in them positions every year.

All that matters now is no . 21 🏆
 
KingKhanWC said:
That was a double, imagination might help. It was booked as we were 2 goals from winning the quad, imagination wont help, try asking Mamoon for drawing crayons.
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I'm the last person that's going to look down on any trophies but you were the one talking about proper trophies, was just trying to work out what is worthy of being celebrated
 
And the gap in centre back remains

Can't believe we sold quansah he could have definetly had made a mark this season and establish himself in the setup.
 
@Geordie Ahmed - on the Isak/rat issue:

Football fandom is inherently hypocritical. One man's traitor is another man's new hero until they step out the door too. We expect loyalty from players but are equally quick to label them as castoffs to discard. There's no consistent logic to be found in such a tribal sport.

Clubs and players are astute at the PR game and creating narratives. The Isak affair got messy and IMO there's blame all around:

1) Newcastle are fair in arguing he had three years left on his deal. Isak had no release clause or written agreement to leave this summer so that's a dereliction of duty from Isak's agent, meaning the only way Isak was getting his move was by creating an almighty stink.

2) Isak's argument he was verbally offered a new contract by Staveley, which was later reneged on by Mitchell, cannot be dismissed too. Yes the club will argue a big pay rise would've destroyed a) the PSR position and b) the pay structure leading to Bruno, Tonali and co knocking at the door.

But that stance dissolves trust between employer and employee. And it's made worse when executives are coming and going like at Newcastle.

Eales' blood cancer diagnosis was horrific and unfortunate, but PL clubs must replace a CEO quickly not leave a power vacuum for so long. That's why you missed out on so many targets - transfer legwork must be done months/years beforehand.

3) We suffered the same with Torres in 2011. We had the inept cowboys Hicks and Gillette with a rotating cast of execs and managers underneath who made him promises Torres felt were broken.

He leaves for rivals Chelsea and then a new, young DOF in Damien Comolli panic bought Carroll from you for a fee way over the odds.

The club were very good at painting Torres as the villain like Newcastle have with Isak through briefing their patch journos in the press - but the reality is always more complex.

I can't tell Newcastle fans how they feel. However I hope in the fullness of time you guys remember what Isak did. Losing at Wembley wasn't nice but seeing old Geordies, Alan Shearer etc in tears after a lifetime of heartache made me realise you needed it more than us. And Isak played a key role in ending that 70 year run - like Torres brought me so many fond memories from demolishing Real Madrid, Man Utd away 1-4 etc. Eventually Torres returned in a 2015 charity game and was cheered. Football stops for nobody. Cash in, reinvest, rebuild.
 
Markhor said:
@Geordie Ahmed - on the Isak/rat issue:

Football fandom is inherently hypocritical. One man's traitor is another man's new hero until they step out the door too. We expect loyalty from players but are equally quick to label them as castoffs to discard. There's no consistent logic to be found in such a tribal sport.

Clubs and players are astute at the PR game and creating narratives. The Isak affair got messy and IMO there's blame all around:

1) Newcastle are fair in arguing he had three years left on his deal. Isak had no release clause or written agreement to leave this summer so that's a dereliction of duty from Isak's agent, meaning the only way Isak was getting his move was by creating an almighty stink.

2) Isak's argument he was verbally offered a new contract by Staveley, which was later reneged on by Mitchell, cannot be dismissed too. Yes the club will argue a big pay rise would've destroyed a) the PSR position and b) the pay structure leading to Bruno, Tonali and co knocking at the door.

But that stance dissolves trust between employer and employee. And it's made worse when executives are coming and going like at Newcastle.

Eales' blood cancer diagnosis was horrific and unfortunate, but PL clubs must replace a CEO quickly not leave a power vacuum for so long. That's why you missed out on so many targets - transfer legwork must be done months/years beforehand.

3) We suffered the same with Torres in 2011. We had the inept cowboys Hicks and Gillette with a rotating cast of execs and managers underneath who made him promises Torres felt were broken.

He leaves for rivals Chelsea and then a new, young DOF in Damien Comolli panic bought Carroll from you for a fee way over the odds.

The club were very good at painting Torres as the villain like Newcastle have with Isak through briefing their patch journos in the press - but the reality is always more complex.

I can't tell Newcastle fans how they feel. However I hope in the fullness of time you guys remember what Isak did. Losing at Wembley wasn't nice but seeing old Geordies, Alan Shearer etc in tears after a lifetime of heartache made me realise you needed it more than us. And Isak played a key role in ending that 70 year run - like Torres brought me so many fond memories from demolishing Real Madrid, Man Utd away 1-4 etc. Eventually Torres returned in a 2015 charity game and was cheered. Football stops for nobody. Cash in, reinvest, rebuild.
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Geordie Ahmed said:
I'm the last person that's going to look down on any trophies but you were the one talking about proper trophies, was just trying to work out what is worthy of being celebrated
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All relative on the team in question. It was a great moment for Newcastle to win after so many years, lovely too see. Isak was key to this success and also CL qualifications.
 
Markhor said:
@Geordie Ahmed - on the Isak/rat issue:

Football fandom is inherently hypocritical. One man's traitor is another man's new hero until they step out the door too. We expect loyalty from players but are equally quick to label them as castoffs to discard. There's no consistent logic to be found in such a tribal sport.

Clubs and players are astute at the PR game and creating narratives. The Isak affair got messy and IMO there's blame all around:

1) Newcastle are fair in arguing he had three years left on his deal. Isak had no release clause or written agreement to leave this summer so that's a dereliction of duty from Isak's agent, meaning the only way Isak was getting his move was by creating an almighty stink.

2) Isak's argument he was verbally offered a new contract by Staveley, which was later reneged on by Mitchell, cannot be dismissed too. Yes the club will argue a big pay rise would've destroyed a) the PSR position and b) the pay structure leading to Bruno, Tonali and co knocking at the door.

But that stance dissolves trust between employer and employee. And it's made worse when executives are coming and going like at Newcastle.

Eales' blood cancer diagnosis was horrific and unfortunate, but PL clubs must replace a CEO quickly not leave a power vacuum for so long. That's why you missed out on so many targets - transfer legwork must be done months/years beforehand.

3) We suffered the same with Torres in 2011. We had the inept cowboys Hicks and Gillette with a rotating cast of execs and managers underneath who made him promises Torres felt were broken.

He leaves for rivals Chelsea and then a new, young DOF in Damien Comolli panic bought Carroll from you for a fee way over the odds.

The club were very good at painting Torres as the villain like Newcastle have with Isak through briefing their patch journos in the press - but the reality is always more complex.

I can't tell Newcastle fans how they feel. However I hope in the fullness of time you guys remember what Isak did. Losing at Wembley wasn't nice but seeing old Geordies, Alan Shearer etc in tears after a lifetime of heartache made me realise you needed it more than us. And Isak played a key role in ending that 70 year run - like Torres brought me so many fond memories from demolishing Real Madrid, Man Utd away 1-4 etc. Eventually Torres returned in a 2015 charity game and was cheered. Football stops for nobody. Cash in, reinvest, rebuild.
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I respect the time and effort you put into this lengthy post but it does not move me one bit

The bottom line is he refused to play, there is a time and place for me to criticise our transfer window, how it's been handled, what Mitchell did etc etc

The bottom line is he refused to play, he shat on the fans. It's not outrageous to suggest we could be sat on 7-9 points instead of the two if he did what he is contracted to, if we miss out on European football come the end of the season by a few points then he's played his part in that. There are even further reports suggesting he even stopped trying towards the end of the season as us failing to qualify would make him wanting to leave an easier process and as I reflect more and more on those performances I am starting to believe that

Torres to my knowledge never refused to play so the comparison is flawed

I'm sorry, I find it so strange why Liverpool fans are getting defensive about what we call him. Again, I repeat for the umpteenth time no one is expecting you to feel that way, he will be amazing for Liverpool and he will rightly be considered a hero, I have no issues with that but completely failing to understand why we hate him is just baffling

You can write an essay but I will forever refer to him as a rat and that will never change
 
KingKhanWC said:
All relative on the team in question. It was a great moment for Newcastle to win after so many years, lovely too see. Isak was key to this success and also CL qualifications.
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Indeed and it was a great moment when your team won it too
 
Players will always want to move onto other clubs, that's always been the case. Some players will look to move in a respectful manner and others won't. Player refusing to train, play etc.. to push for a move, are rightly criticised. Whether someone likes where they are working or not, when under contract you should have the decency to behave in a professional manner.

if promises were made Isak and weren't kept. I understand why he wanted to leave. He should have still played the 1st few games for Newcastle and then moved on. None of the Newcastle players, managers or fans broke promises. It's the board that did. So Newcastle fans are right to be pissed.

We all know Liverpool aren't saints in these types of scenarios. We know trent will be called Judas when he plays the CL game vs liverpool. Some Liverpool fans were sending death threats to stevie G when he wanted to join Chelsea. Loyalty works both ways, but people pick and choose when they want to apply it
 
Geordie Ahmed said:
I respect the time and effort you put into this lengthy post but it does not move me one bit

The bottom line is he refused to play, there is a time and place for me to criticise our transfer window, how it's been handled, what Mitchell did etc etc

The bottom line is he refused to play, he shat on the fans. It's not outrageous to suggest we could be sat on 7-9 points instead of the two if he did what he is contracted to, if we miss out on European football come the end of the season by a few points then he's played his part in that. There are even further reports suggesting he even stopped trying towards the end of the season as us failing to qualify would make him wanting to leave an easier process and as I reflect more and more on those performances I am starting to believe that

Torres to my knowledge never refused to play so the comparison is flawed

I'm sorry, I find it so strange why Liverpool fans are getting defensive about what we call him. Again, I repeat for the umpteenth time no one is expecting you to feel that way, he will be amazing for Liverpool and he will rightly be considered a hero, I have no issues with that but completely failing to understand why we hate him is just baffling

You can write an essay but I will forever refer to him as a rat and that will never change
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@Geordie Ahmed You've misunderstood my post if you think I'm objecting to Newcastle fans calling Isak a rat. I literally said it's not my place to tell Newcastle fans how to feel ! Please re-read my post instead of jumping to conclusions.

My point was these situations are rarely as black and white (no pun intended) as made out. Clubs and players are expert in shaping cartoonishly simple narratives where one party is a villain - yes even our own.

What I'm interested in as a football fan is coldly and rationally analysing how and why the situation got so messy. Who is saying what is of no concern to me.

My view, which you can agree or disagree with, is there are multiple villains. Yes Isak behaved unprofessionally and was poorly advised by his agent. He's undoubtedly tarnished his legacy at Newcastle. However, Newcastle learned a harsh lesson in that top PL clubs cannot leave power vacuums at the executive level ! Clubs and players will ruthlessly prey on you.

If a strong, experienced DOF was in charge, would Isak been so emboldened to go on strike ? Would you have missed out on so many targets ? Maybe the outcome would be the same, but it could've happened more on your terms.

No Torres didn't strike but he was moody and uninterested throughout 2010, including in the game at SJP where you battered us (prompting our panic buy of Carroll). We had a manager who hadn't managed for 11 years, a DOF in the job for 2 months, and new owners who knew nothing about football.

We were in no position to fight Torres, floundered for replacements and then paid over the odds for Carroll like you have with Wissa. Now your situation is actually far more stable than ours was - which is why I'm curious how PIF allowed this power vacuum to develop !

Dare I say, is Isak a convenient scapegoat for PIF to hide the fact they haven't moved swiftly enough behind the scenes to create the structures to enable Newcastle to push on from their League Cup win and CL qualification ? Have the Saudis spread themselves too thin ?
 
Amjid Javed said:
Players will always want to move onto other clubs, that's always been the case. Some players will look to move in a respectful manner and others won't. Player refusing to train, play etc.. to push for a move, are rightly criticised. Whether someone likes where they are working or not, when under contract you should have the decency to behave in a professional manner.

if promises were made Isak and weren't kept. I understand why he wanted to leave. He should have still played the 1st few games for Newcastle and then moved on. None of the Newcastle players, managers or fans broke promises. It's the board that did. So Newcastle fans are right to be pissed.

We all know Liverpool aren't saints in these types of scenarios. We know trent will be called Judas when he plays the CL game vs liverpool. Some Liverpool fans were sending death threats to stevie G when he wanted to join Chelsea. Loyalty works both ways, but people pick and choose when they want to apply it
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This is exactly my point @Amjid Javed. I'm not attacking @Geordie Ahmed or Newcastle fans who I fully expect to be livid with Isak.

What I'm saying is Newcastle fans must also analyse how the board let this situation develop.

Why did this Mitchell step down as sporting director 3 weeks into the most important transfer window of Newcastle's recent history ? It's like a surgeon walking out the theatre while the patient is still carved open ! Where was the replacement ? Why did it take so long to find a CEO ?

Agents and players like Isak who, even with 3 years left on their deal, will see that as weakness and play whatever cards they have including striking. Not saying it's right or wrong, that's how football is.

We got our pants pulled down so many times in the market until we sorted ourselves out. Cuss out Isak or Liverpool, sure, but assess the wider context too.
 
@KingKhanWC

If the League Cup is not a proper trophy, why did Klopp do an open bus parade for winning it along with the FA Cup?
 
Markhor said:
This is exactly my point @Amjid Javed. I'm not attacking @Geordie Ahmed or Newcastle fans who I fully expect to be livid with Isak.

What I'm saying is Newcastle fans must also analyse how the board let this situation develop.

Why did this Mitchell step down as sporting director 3 weeks into the most important transfer window of Newcastle's recent history ? It's like a surgeon walking out the theatre while the patient is still carved open ! Where was the replacement ? Why did it take so long to find a CEO ?

Agents and players like Isak who, even with 3 years left on their deal, will see that as weakness and play whatever cards they have including striking. Not saying it's right or wrong, that's how football is.

We got our pants pulled down so many times in the market until we sorted ourselves out. Cuss out Isak or Liverpool, sure, but assess the wider context too.
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Agents will always be sneaky and under handed, that's always been the case they are ultimately looking to make their clients and themselves the most money

In the case of footballers they can have at times short careers and need to do whats best for themselves. However, when players do sign contracts they have to be more respectful to what they have signed. Maybe now because we see and hear more things on social media, but it seems players and managers now just seen to think they can act like spoilt brats if they don't get there way. We can't have a situation now in football where if a player all of sudden doesn't want to stay, they Starr refusing to train or play. You can't do that in any other form of employment, so it's should be tolerated in football either. It sets a bad precedent, otherwise you could have 4 or 5 unhappy players at clubs behaving In such a way it just makes a mockery of signing a contract In 1st place.

Personal I think both isak and wissa should have played for their clubs in games this season until they were sold.

It's clear in both cases the players Agents have more than likely said, act like a child as that's only way your going to get sold. I can see more players now doing same as this type stuff just sets a bad precedent.

I think even I'd Newcastle had previous people in place, same mess would have occurred as player knew he had to behave in such a way to get out. Clubs can also handle situations better, allowing players to behave like this just means selling club ends up losing value on their asset. Maybe players should be forced to stump up cash out of their own pocket as part of transfers if they want to behave like this
 
@KingKhanWC

What is this? 🤣🤣🤣🤣

No wonder this twig is injured all the time. Gyokeres can knock this Somalian pirate out with one blow.

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Mamoon said:
@KingKhanWC

If the League Cup is not a proper trophy, why did Klopp do an open bus parade for winning it along with the FA Cup?
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See post #408

After drawing cartoons of managers for your wall, now you're looking for photos of players body?
:inti

Once again you are showing you lack of footy understanding. Isak is very strong physically, he is one of the rare defenders who troubled the likes of Saliba and VVD. He is far stronger than Gyokeres who was manhandled like a child on Sunday.

Stop before this hole gets so deep you cant climb out of it.
 
KingKhanWC said:
See post #408

After drawing cartoons of managers for your wall, now you're looking for photos of players body?
:inti

Once again you are showing you lack of footy understanding. Isak is very strong physically, he is one of the rare defenders who troubled the likes of Saliba and VVD. He is far stronger than Gyokeres who was manhandled like a child on Sunday.

Stop before this hole gets so deep you cant climb out of it.
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🤣

The Somalian twig is so strong physically, he has been out injured for 337 days in his career, while the physically weak Gyokeres has only missed 71 days in his career, even though he has played a lot of football in the Championship where players get kicked around for fun and get very little protection from the referees.

Not only does Gyokeres blow the Somalian twig out of the water as a goal scorer both at international and club level, he is far stronger than him too.

The Somalian twig should really ensure he doesn’t take his shirt off and not expose himself like this.

This picture is doing the rounds on social media and someone aptly called him Alexander Insect 🤣.
 
Mamoon said:
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The Somalian twig is so strong physically, he has been out injured for 337 days in his career, while the physically weak Gyokeres has only missed 71 days in his career, even though he has played a lot of football in the Championship where players get kicked around for fun and get very little protection from the referees.

Not only does Gyokeres blow the Somalian twig out of the water as a goal scorer both at international and club level, he is far stronger than him too.

The Somalian twig should really ensure he doesn’t take his shirt off and not expose himself like this.

This picture is doing the rounds on social media and someone aptly called him Alexander Insect 🤣.
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lol injuries are not always related to physical strength, clearly you've never hit the gym or done any physical activity.

Harvey Elliot would be able to mark and tackle Jokeres, he was badly exposed by Liverpool and Utd but will do well against minnows.

Nice racist language too from Peshawar.
 
KingKhanWC said:
lol injuries are not always related to physical strength, clearly you've never hit the gym or done any physical activity.

Harvey Elliot would be able to mark and tackle Jokeres, he was badly exposed by Liverpool and Utd but will do well against minnows.

Nice racist language too from Peshawar.
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Alexander Insect has suffered a lot of muscular injuries. He lacks strength and endurance. It is one of the reasons why clubs were reluctant to sign him when he was in Spain.

What racism - is he not Somalian? Or is he ashamed of his roots like you are?
 
Mamoon said:
Alexander Insect has suffered a lot of muscular injuries. He lacks strength and endurance. It is one of the reasons why clubs were reluctant to sign him when he was in Spain.

What racism - is he not Somalian? Or is he ashamed of his roots like you are?
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No he is not Somalian
 
Mamoon said:
Alexander Insect has suffered a lot of muscular injuries. He lacks strength and endurance. It is one of the reasons why clubs were reluctant to sign him when he was in Spain.

What racism - is he not Somalian? Or is he ashamed of his roots like you are?
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You called him a Somalian twig is is a racist trope but you wouldnt know this in your little world in Peshawar.

Jokeres is an avg player, will which is why no big club wanted him for half the money of Isak. If you understood footy and watched the 2 matches v Utd and LFC, you'd know he is way overarted by Arsenal fans and some others.
 
KingKhanWC said:
You called him a Somalian twig is is a racist trope but you wouldnt know this in your little world in Peshawar.

Jokeres is an avg player, will which is why no big club wanted him for half the money of Isak. If you understood footy and watched the 2 matches v Utd and LFC, you'd know he is way overarted by Arsenal fans and some others.
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Yes, the average player was the highest scorer across all European leagues, was the top scorer in the UNL, has a hat-trick vs City in the UCL and has scored same no of goals for Sweden as Isak in the same era while playing 16 less matches.

He will also outscore Isak in the PL even when Isak has now moved to Liverpool. You can bookmark this but please don’t make excuses later.
 
Amjid Javed said:
Agents will always be sneaky and under handed, that's always been the case they are ultimately looking to make their clients and themselves the most money

In the case of footballers they can have at times short careers and need to do whats best for themselves. However, when players do sign contracts they have to be more respectful to what they have signed. Maybe now because we see and hear more things on social media, but it seems players and managers now just seen to think they can act like spoilt brats if they don't get there way. We can't have a situation now in football where if a player all of sudden doesn't want to stay, they Starr refusing to train or play. You can't do that in any other form of employment, so it's should be tolerated in football either. It sets a bad precedent, otherwise you could have 4 or 5 unhappy players at clubs behaving In such a way it just makes a mockery of signing a contract In 1st place.

Personal I think both isak and wissa should have played for their clubs in games this season until they were sold.

It's clear in both cases the players Agents have more than likely said, act like a child as that's only way your going to get sold. I can see more players now doing same as this type stuff just sets a bad precedent.

I think even I'd Newcastle had previous people in place, same mess would have occurred as player knew he had to behave in such a way to get out. Clubs can also handle situations better, allowing players to behave like this just means selling club ends up losing value on their asset. Maybe players should be forced to stump up cash out of their own pocket as part of transfers if they want to behave like this
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The precedent was set a long time ago. What Isak and Wissa did is nothing new unfortunately, and if anything the Marc Guehi situation proves why players resort to such behaviour to get their way.

Guehi behaved thoroughly professionally and continued playing for Palace despite intimating that he wanted to leave. Palace accepted the bid, he even completes the first part of his medical before the club changed their mind at the last minute and pulled the plug.

Look at Man Utd and how they treated the so-called "Bomb Squad" by preventing them from training at Carrington until after the first team had gone. Those players still had years left on their contracts, so it cuts both ways.

The whole system of transfers needs proper regulation. There's too much nonsense that's allowed to happen.
 
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Also, though I'm loathe to speak highly of him there's levels to football and he is clear of Gyokeres
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This is hard to deny. In hindsight do you think Newcastle should have sold him early in the window, allowing you more options to replace or are you fully happy with the two you bought in?
 
Markhor said:
The precedent was set a long time ago. What Isak and Wissa did is nothing new unfortunately, and if anything the Marc Guehi situation proves why players resort to such behaviour to get their way.

Guehi behaved thoroughly professionally and continued playing for Palace despite intimating that he wanted to leave. Palace accepted the bid, he even completes the first part of his medical before the club changed their mind at the last minute and pulled the plug.

Look at Man Utd and how they treated the so-called "Bomb Squad" by preventing them from training at Carrington until after the first team had gone. Those players still had years left on their contracts, so it cuts both ways.

The whole system of transfers needs proper regulation. There's too much nonsense that's allowed to happen.
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Palace were in a bit of a difficult situation, the manager told the chairman if he sanctions the deal then he'll quit

Igor was meant to be the replacement but he decided to join West Ham, so a serious of unfortunate event

However long term Guehi will still come out of this well, he can sign a pre contract in Jan with a club abroad and on hefty wages or he can wait to join Liverpool in the summer on a free, where his signing on fee and wages will be a lot more

He's adored by Palace fans and they will still adore him when he eventually moves on
 
KingKhanWC said:
This is hard to deny. In hindsight do you think Newcastle should have sold him early in the window, allowing you more options to replace or are you fully happy with the two you bought in?
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I don't think it would have necessarily helped, Liverpool came in with the low ball bid first and accepting that was never an option so we had to wait for another bid but also getting in the replacements was proving to be difficult

I'm actually very happy with the Woltemade and Wissa, though feel the Wissa fee is a bit on the high side, those signings weren't possible earlier because firstly we assumed Woltemade was away to Bayern and secondly Brentford were adamant Wissa was not for sale and kept bumping the price up

I am annoyed that the start of our season has been disrupted, based on performances if we had a proper striker (be that Isak or Wissa) we could easily be sitting on 7-9 points, just hope come the end of the season they don't prove to be crucial but I suspect they will as the margins from 3rd to 7th is likely to be very tight
 
Geordie Ahmed said:
Palace were in a bit of a difficult situation, the manager told the chairman if he sanctions the deal then he'll quit

Igor was meant to be the replacement but he decided to join West Ham, so a serious of unfortunate event

However long term Guehi will still come out of this well, he can sign a pre contract in Jan with a club abroad and on hefty wages or he can wait to join Liverpool in the summer on a free, where his signing on fee and wages will be a lot more

He's adored by Palace fans and they will still adore him when he eventually moves on
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I don't blame Glasner at all since he already lost his best player in Eze, and losing Guehi without an adequate replacement would've taken a wrecking ball to his Palace team who have Europe to contend. I'm not sure why we didn't offer Gomez in a swap but what's done is done.

Going back to earlier, would you agree or disagree that Newcastle's board is equally culpable as Isak, or at least partially culpable, in creating this messy situation ?

How could Mitchell be allowed to walk three weeks into the transfer window as SD ? It's akin to a surgeon walking out the theatre with the patient still cut open. Why did it take so long to appoint a CEO ? Obviously you're more in tune with Newcastle events than me but IMO as an outsider looking in - that gave Isak and his agent the opening to take their stance, and explained why Newcastle struggled for replacements as well as overpaying for 29 yr old Wissa who had a year left on his deal.

I obviously get why Newcastle fans are fuming with Isak, but surely with a strong and experienced DOF/CEO - this summer could've proceeded more on Newcastle's terms than it did ? Not saying Isak would've stayed, but I can't help but feel it suits PIF to paint Isak as a villain to mask their lack of proactiveness behind the scenes.

The only person to emerge with any credit is Eddie Howe who conducted himself in a very dignified manner and deserved more backing.
 
Wirtz 🤣🤣🤣🤣

Absolute robbery by Leverkusen. £116m down the drain.
 
It was a tough game but the team just got the job done to get the 3 points, so WELL DONE.
 
GOSH11 said:
Such a clown.... this is not fifa or EAFC, 4 games.... AJ et al. Spot on about you and your footy (lack of) knowledge.

Peshwari Jimmy Hill indeed!
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It is okay, you don’t need to cry so hard.

He isn’t the first £100m+ flop in PL history and won’t be the last. City did it before you with Grealish.

However, if crying will help you cope with the disappointment of Wirtz being the most expensive flop signing of the summer, please continue to cry like a baby.
 
Mamoon said:
It is okay, you don’t need to cry so hard.

He isn’t the first £100m+ flop in PL history and won’t be the last. City did it before you with Grealish.

However, if crying will help you cope with the disappointment of Wirtz being the most expensive flop signing of the summer, please continue to cry like a baby.
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Crying?

Didn't you say you disappeared off PP after Liverpool vs Arsenal? Now, that is emotional... and for a medic?? Emotional?

Certainly not crying and certainly wouldn't disappear (aside from work- which you obviously do not do- even in some corner of Pakistan......).

The measured approach is to reserve judgment to make an informed opinion... lol, what sort of cowboy medicine do you partake in? Snap judgements, errors galore.... wouldn't cut it in medicine over here, son!
 
GOSH11 said:
Crying?

Didn't you say you disappeared off PP after Liverpool vs Arsenal? Now, that is emotional... and for a medic?? Emotional?

Certainly not crying and certainly wouldn't disappear (aside from work- which you obviously do not do- even in some corner of Pakistan......).

The measured approach is to reserve judgment to make an informed opinion... lol, what sort of cowboy medicine do you partake in? Snap judgements, errors galore.... wouldn't cut it in medicine over here, son!
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If memory serves, you said you disappeared because you were upset or sad.....?!?!?!? After Liverpool vs Arsenal!!

LOL!!
 
GOSH11 said:
Crying?

Didn't you say you disappeared off PP after Liverpool vs Arsenal? Now, that is emotional... and for a medic?? Emotional?

Certainly not crying and certainly wouldn't disappear (aside from work- which you obviously do not do- even in some corner of Pakistan......).

The measured approach is to reserve judgment to make an informed opinion... lol, what sort of cowboy medicine do you partake in? Snap judgements, errors galore.... wouldn't cut it in medicine over here, son!
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It is okay, this too shall pass. You don’t have to cry that hard. You will recoup half of the fee when you sell him back to some German club in two years. He is still young and valued in his home country.
 
GOSH11 said:
If memory serves, you said you disappeared because you were upset or sad.....?!?!?!? After Liverpool vs Arsenal!!

LOL!!
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Let me know when you are done crying…or talking to yourself.
 
I would take the 3 points anyway, performance is 2nd and individual player achievements 3rd... but for you, it seems distorted, not surprised as you try to misappropriate UK footy culture and even that is done badly- cringeworthy and universally panned on here.... literally not rated when it comes to footy- irrelevant, only relevant when ppl wish to jab someone with such low football IQ and track record of clangers
 
Mamoon said:
It is okay, this too shall pass. You don’t have to cry that hard. You will recoup half of the fee when you sell him back to some German club in two years. He is still young and valued in his home country.
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LOL, we shall see.
 
Mamoon said:
Let me know when you are done crying…or talking to yourself.
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Again, for once you cannot belittle someone and play the "medic" card, as you are mediocre in that regard in some corner of Pakistan and as for footy knowledge..... Haha!
 
GOSH11 said:
I would take the 3 points anyway, performance is 2nd and individual player achievements 3rd... but for you, it seems distorted, not surprised as you try to misappropriate UK footy culture and even that is done badly- cringeworthy and universally panned on here.... literally not rated when it comes to footy- irrelevant, only relevant when ppl wish to jab someone with such low football IQ and track record of clangers
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English, please.
 
Mamoon said:
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Cute meme when you are obviously lacking in footy IQ.... universally panned on here, always nice to throw a few jabs at the lack of footy knowledge but back to work.... unlike you and your corner of Pakistan, we have proper medical work to do here in the UK.

Try harder with the PLAB, son and one day you might come up in the medical world and until then......
 
Burnley like Arsenal didn't show enough ambition to win the game and ultimately left themselves open to a sucker punch.

Utd won so many games late on under Ferguson in similar fashion - you spend enough time camped in the opposition third and eventually something falls your way. Slot like Ferguson will gamble by making attacking subs which often pays dividends.

Haven't clicked yet as a team with the overseas signings still getting up to speed with the intensity of the PL, yet we've still won 4 from 4 and Isak is soon entering the fray.
 
On a serious note, Liverpool are looking very good for sure. Yes they have signed a flop in Wirtz, but Salah hasn’t even hit his best form yet. unless this is finally the season where he shows signs of age-related decline.

Isak will also hit the ground running for them. I would back Arsenal to win the league but Liverpool should finish second ahead of City.

I think Arsenal’s squad depth and extremely solid backline + Gyokeres nose for goal will help them pip Liverpool for the title.
 
Burnley are a well drilled defensive side, they concede very little at home and their plan from kick off was to gain 1 point at home!

Liverpool could have played with more intent, took more shots from outside the box to hit the target but were not very good in this regard. The feeling was a goal was always on its way until it reached 90 mins when I thought 2 points dropped. Pressure pen put away with easy by Salah.

Liverpool are yet to click, it will happen but to have 4 wins out of 4 against teams in good form is a great start.

City, Chelsea and Arsenal are in the chasing pack but they all have problems in certain areas. Wednesday evening back in CL against Athletico should give us some rythm going forward.
 
Liverpool showing grit and determination and is paying off. Just knew Burnley will be hard to break down.
 
Champions League night at Anfield is back!

Athletico Madrid is the 3rd best team in Spain and will look to defend deep as they always do. I hope they play more open than the teams we have faced so far in the league. Tonight could be the night Liverpool finally find some rhythm.
 
KingKhanWC said:
Champions League night at Anfield is back!

Athletico Madrid is the 3rd best team in Spain and will look to defend deep as they always do. I hope they play more open than the teams we have faced so far in the league. Tonight could be the night Liverpool finally find some rhythm.
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Simieone has mastered the low block philosophy for best part of Quarter of a Century as a manager. He ain't changing now lol
 
aboveandbeyond said:
Simieone has mastered the low block philosophy for best part of Quarter of a Century as a manager. He ain't changing now lol
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yep unlikley. I'm just hoping I get to see us score a goal before 84 mins! lol

I like this format as you play various different teams but the group stage is too long. You can finish 15th and win the tourny.

Liverpool have one of the toughest draws but we should win all the home matches inc this one tonight!

Alvarez is injured, so unless Griezmann does something special ,they shouldnt score more than 1 goal. I also think we will see the real talent of Wirtz tonight, as it wont be as pacey and frantic as the PL games.
 
Wednesday night at Anfield was the usual incredible European night!

LFC scoring early made this into a very entertaining football match, easily the best for LFC this season so far. After 2-0 the team relaxed almost waiting for the 3rd but wasnt to be. Salah was on fire for most of the 90mins, he could have easily had a hat trick.

Liverpool FC are now in ..... 2nd gear ..!
:salah
 
Haramball series continues tomorrow with David Moyes's Everton although with good technical players like Grealish and Dibling, they might have a go especially with our defensive lapses.

The 1st half vs Atletico was sensational. Much more like it from Salah and Wirtz. Gravenberch is unbelievable on the half turn and our MVP of the season so far. However we became sloppy in possession and were unlucky to concede two deflected goals. MacAllister getting fully fit again is key as he provides control and composure in midfield. He's looked off it so far which is expected as he didn't have a full pre-season.

Hoping for a routine win tomorrow instead of the usual heart murmurs !
 
Markhor said:
Haramball series continues tomorrow with David Moyes's Everton although with good technical players like Grealish and Dibling, they might have a go especially with our defensive lapses.

The 1st half vs Atletico was sensational. Much more like it from Salah and Wirtz. Gravenberch is unbelievable on the half turn and our MVP of the season so far. However we became sloppy in possession and were unlucky to concede two deflected goals. MacAllister getting fully fit again is key as he provides control and composure in midfield. He's looked off it so far which is expected as he didn't have a full pre-season.

Hoping for a routine win tomorrow instead of the usual heart murmurs !
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What are your thoughts thoughts on Isak debut ?

To me he looked 80% match fit but it almost seemed like he’s been with the team for years. You could see he was very determined, this will last , the hunger to succeed at Liverpool seems more than any pressure as Liverpool no.9 joining current champions. His second touch after controlling the ball is elite . His strength , pace and awareness are his biggest assets after his finishing. Wirtz and Salah will create plenty of chances, there is no reason he can’t score plenty of goals adding to the goals we already have. if Isak , Salah , VVD and Alison show great form the rest will follow , this team will be tough to beat over 38 games . Fitness for all is the key , if they stay fit 21 league titles is very much on
 
KingKhanWC said:
What are your thoughts thoughts on Isak debut ?

To me he looked 80% match fit but it almost seemed like he’s been with the team for years. You could see he was very determined, this will last , the hunger to succeed at Liverpool seems more than any pressure as Liverpool no.9 joining current champions. His second touch after controlling the ball is elite . His strength , pace and awareness are his biggest assets after his finishing. Wirtz and Salah will create plenty of chances, there is no reason he can’t score plenty of goals adding to the goals we already have. if Isak , Salah , VVD and Alison show great form the rest will follow , this team will be tough to beat over 38 games . Fitness for all is the key , if they stay fit 21 league titles is very much on
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Breaking news: a £125m striker is really good at football and also very hungry to succeed after going on an employment and hunger strike at his previous club. 🤣
 
KingKhanWC said:
Arsenal couldn’t afford him, he only wanted Liverpool.. the champions. He wants to win 🏆 one day you’ll understand this need
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Arsenal don’t need him, they have signed a more prolific striker who outscores Isak in all comps and will continue to do so in the PL as well.
 
KingKhanWC said:
What are your thoughts thoughts on Isak debut ?

To me he looked 80% match fit but it almost seemed like he’s been with the team for years. You could see he was very determined, this will last , the hunger to succeed at Liverpool seems more than any pressure as Liverpool no.9 joining current champions. His second touch after controlling the ball is elite . His strength , pace and awareness are his biggest assets after his finishing. Wirtz and Salah will create plenty of chances, there is no reason he can’t score plenty of goals adding to the goals we already have. if Isak , Salah , VVD and Alison show great form the rest will follow , this team will be tough to beat over 38 games . Fitness for all is the key , if they stay fit 21 league titles is very much on
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For someone with literally no pre-season, Isak didn't look rusty at all. His control and first touch was excellent. Powerful shot with minimal backlift.

Good thing is he comes into a settled team that's not desperate to rush him in. We can gradually build his fitness up.

Isak and Ekitike are great #9 options we can rotate. Think Ekitike starts tomorrow and Isak gets another hour vs Southampton.
 
Mamoon said:
Arsenal don’t need him, they have signed a more prolific striker who outscores Isak in all comps and will continue to do so in the PL as well.
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It is about winning trophies.... player achievements mean bugger all in comparison to winning the prem or Champions league....
 
GOSH11 said:
It is about winning trophies.... player achievements mean bugger all in comparison to winning the prem or Champions league....
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I am convinced that Arsenal will win the league now. They have been very very close but three issues have plagued them: not having a goal obsessed striker, Martinelli as first choice LW and lack of squad depth.

All three issues have been addressed now.
 
Getting ready for the merseyside derby. What a day of sport for me, first this match then BD v SL match. Lets hope both my teams wins 😊

Need a clean win. Can’t keep doing with the late winners. YNWA!
 
Yes!! High quality goal Gravenbech! Salah with the assist. Liverpool 1-0 up.
 
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