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Costly 2 points dropped by Sunderland against a relegation threatened team. Sunderland should be beating teams like this
 
Amjid Javed said:
Costly 2 points dropped by Sunderland against a relegation threatened team. Sunderland should be beating teams like this
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Haha.

Relegation threatened... lol. You should be rightfully basking in how well your team are doing and where they are as opposed to these weak attempts at banter- no?
 
GOSH11 said:
Haha.

Relegation threatened... lol. You should be rightfully basking in how well your team are doing and where they are as opposed to these weak attempts at banter- no?
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Let me help you out.... you could go for more apt banter related soundbytes- "europa league contenders" or "conference league contenders"

At least have some realism to your banter.... as that what Liverpool are atm..
 
GOSH11 said:
Haha.

Relegation threatened... lol. You should be rightfully basking in how well your team are doing and where they are as opposed to these weak attempts at banter- no?
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Arsenal fans go running to mods when bantered 🤣
 
SherWaqar said:
Arsenal fans go running to mods when bantered 🤣
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No issues with banter, but make it semi plausible and not deluded and secondly, as a grown man- these cute memes are new to me, i thought that waa a teen or kids thing but we have grown men flooded them, i learn new things each day....
 
So totally useless again

But Sunderland are a very good team punching above their weight this season.


Still think slot doesn't fit , dutch managers dont cut it their way of football doesn't work in premiership probably gus hiddink was ok but not sold on it ,liverpool need to get rid ,whole team and the way we played has been altered.
 
I’d bring back Klopp as interim with stevie g as his assistant so he can learn off Klopp. Or get Alonso in if becomes available
 
A great match to watch last night. We were avg in the first half but better in the 2nd. The last 15 mins it was like the old LFC, dominated but couldnt get the winner. Leaving out Salah is foolish, scapegoat. The defence is the issue, spending £200m+ on fowards but nothing on defenders is criminal.

Slot will prob go, he has an ego and wants to keep starting his signings when they are not up to pace.
 
KingKhanWC said:
A great match to watch last night. We were avg in the first half but better in the 2nd. The last 15 mins it was like the old LFC, dominated but couldnt get the winner. Leaving out Salah is foolish, scapegoat. The defence is the issue, spending £200m+ on fowards but nothing on defenders is criminal.

Slot will prob go, he has an ego and wants to keep starting his signings when they are not up to pace.
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🤣🤣 like the old Liverpool, Sunderland dominated most of game and should have won it with chance that chiesa kicked off line.

Other than wirtz shot which wad going out for a throw in, and got deflected in. Liverpool where **** again.

Those 2 dropped points by Sunderland may cosy them a place in Europe at end of season
 
Amjid Javed said:
🤣🤣 like the old Liverpool, Sunderland dominated most of game and should have won it with chance that chiesa kicked off line.

Other than wirtz shot which wad going out for a throw in, and got deflected in. Liverpool where **** again.

Those 2 dropped points by Sunderland may cosy them a place in Europe at end of season
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LFC had 68% possession, 23 shots, 4 on target. Sunderland had 32% possession, 9 shots and 6 on target. If this is domination from Sunderland you and Arteta are smarter than Einstein.

City will go on a winning run now, Arsenal will prob drop points to Villa. I'd worry about smashing a bottle on the floor, not how dominate Sunderland are.
:wenger
 
KingKhanWC said:
LFC had 68% possession, 23 shots, 4 on target. Sunderland had 32% possession, 9 shots and 6 on target. If this is domination from Sunderland you and Arteta are smarter than Einstein.

City will go on a winning run now, Arsenal will prob drop points to Villa. I'd worry about smashing a bottle on the floor, not how dominate Sunderland are.
:wenger
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Possession in a game is irrelevant, all Liverpool did was pass the ball around sideways and backwards. Sunderland regularly ripped open Liverpools defence.

Virgil van twirk again exposed on the goal, deluded Liverpool fans thing this guys an ATG PL player, the guys been exposed all season for overated player he is.

Worse footballing title defence in English history. 400M spent and in relegation battle
 
Amjid Javed said:
🤣🤣 like the old Liverpool, Sunderland dominated most of game and should have won it with chance that chiesa kicked off line.

Other than wirtz shot which wad going out for a throw in, and got deflected in. Liverpool where **** again.

Those 2 dropped points by Sunderland may cosy them a place in Europe at end of season
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Sunderland did deserve the win.

Aside from about 15 to 20mins, they were the better side- certaonly far better organisef
 
Amjid Javed said:
Possession in a game is irrelevant, all Liverpool did was pass the ball around sideways and backwards. Sunderland regularly ripped open Liverpools defence.

Virgil van twirk again exposed on the goal, deluded Liverpool fans thing this guys an ATG PL player, the guys been exposed all season for overated player he is.

Worse footballing title defence in English history. 400M spent and in relegation battle
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There were more stats provided for you than just possession, try reading harder lol.

VVD and most LFC players have won big titles, Arsenal have won FA and im not talking about the FA cup. Have some self respect and stop twerking until you actually win a major trophy.
 
Amjid Javed said:
Possession in a game is irrelevant, all Liverpool did was pass the ball around sideways and backwards. Sunderland regularly ripped open Liverpools defence.

Virgil van twirk again exposed on the goal, deluded Liverpool fans thing this guys an ATG PL player, the guys been exposed all season for overated player he is.

Worse footballing title defence in English history. 400M spent and in relegation battle
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What utter nonsense.

If a player is at the end of his career, overlook the rest of his career?!?! Sergio Ramos was recently let go, in part due to teribble play, by your logic, ignore all the other years and lambast the player.

What utter drivel.... there is bias and then there is just deluded nonsense, this is the latter.


Relegation battle? Really? Utter drivel and nonsense or a very weak attempt at banter.
 
GOSH11 said:
What utter nonsense.

If a player is at the end of his career, overlook the rest of his career?!?! Sergio Ramos was recently let go, in part due to teribble play, by your logic, ignore all the other years and lambast the player.

What utter drivel.... there is bias and then there is just deluded nonsense, this is the latter.


Relegation battle? Really? Utter drivel and nonsense or a very weak attempt at banter.
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VVD is at the back end of his career, clearly fallen off but any sane or rational person does not extrapolate that nonsense.

That is utterly laughable and should be held with contempt!
 
GOSH11 said:
VVD is at the back end of his career, clearly fallen off but any sane or rational person does not extrapolate that nonsense.

That is utterly laughable and should be held with contempt!
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Aresnals greatest ever defender was Tony Adams, in his last 2 seasons he was running slower than a mule with a bad leg. VVD did make an error but on his day he is still world class.
 
KingKhanWC said:
Aresnals greatest ever defender was Tony Adams, in his last 2 seasons he was running slower than a mule with a bad leg. VVD did make an error but on his day he is still world class.
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Agreed.... it was just utter nonsense to denigrate a past, universally acclaimed/recognised standout and world class centreback.

Father time is undefeated and VVD is not the same as he was. Like you said bhai, on his day he still shows that class but those days are a lot less this season.

Tony Adams was brilliant but at the end, as with all, he fell off badly- to be expected.
 
GOSH11 said:
Agreed.... it was just utter nonsense to denigrate a past, universally acclaimed/recognised standout and world class centreback.

Father time is undefeated and VVD is not the same as he was. Like you said bhai, on his day he still shows that class but those days are a lot less this season.

Tony Adams was brilliant but at the end, as with all, he fell off badly- to be expected.
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These are not real footy fans, just want to troll other teams while their own team has won nothing. May will be fun, when Arsenal bottle it again. Im backing City to win this now.
 
KingKhanWC said:
Aresnals greatest ever defender was Tony Adams, in his last 2 seasons he was running slower than a mule with a bad leg. VVD did make an error but on his day he is still world class.
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Adams won a PL and FA cup double in his final season, not bad for someone supposedly running slow.

All VVD is doing is getting bent over and violated every game. Same violation uve Been getting for last 2 months on here.
 
Amjid Javed said:
Adams won a PL and FA cup double in his final season, not bad for someone supposedly running slow.

All VVD is doing is getting bent over and violated every game. Same violation uve Been getting for last 2 months on here.
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Adams played only 10 league matches in his final season, not bad for someone who ran like a mule on one leg.

VVD is a champions league winner which Adams never got close, also 2nd Ballondor, Adams never made it in top 10 or did he in his last season? lol
 
KingKhanWC said:
Adams played only 10 league matches in his final season, not bad for someone who ran like a mule on one leg.

VVD is a champions league winner which Adams never got close, also 2nd Ballondor, Adams never made it in top 10 or did he in his last season? lol
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Plenty of average players have won CL it's a cup competition

Adams won 4 league titles, VVD is nowhere near that level
 
Amjid Javed said:
Plenty of average players have won CL it's a cup competition

Adams won 4 league titles, VVD is nowhere near that level
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You were being disingenuous, Adams hardly played in his last season. lol

No Arsenal player avg or crap has ever won the CL and wont in your lifetime
:wenger
 
KingKhanWC said:
A great match to watch last night. We were avg in the first half but better in the 2nd. The last 15 mins it was like the old LFC, dominated but couldnt get the winner. Leaving out Salah is foolish, scapegoat. The defence is the issue, spending £200m+ on fowards but nothing on defenders is criminal.

Slot will prob go, he has an ego and wants to keep starting his signings when they are not up to pace.
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Slot should be gone by now.
 
SherWaqar said:
Slot should be gone by now.
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Slot won the league with Klopps team and mainly because Salah was on fire with both goals and assists. He decided to change the team radically, with no defenders bought in. Now he is confused, sometimes starts with a deep block, other times tries to press and wrongly too. Playing Isak over Ekitike was a disgrace.

I always back my team and want them to win but if we finish outside of Europe, its a blessing in disguise. A new manager.
 
KingKhanWC said:
You were being disingenuous, Adams hardly played in his last season. lol

No Arsenal player avg or crap has ever won the CL and wont in your lifetime
:wenger
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Mediocre players like carragher, jonny Evans, Ryan Bertrand have win CL. Its a cup competition. Nothing special

You can win a cup with luck.

You don't win 4 titles with luck
 
Amjid Javed said:
Mediocre players like carragher, jonny Evans, Ryan Bertrand have win CL. Its a cup competition. Nothing special

You can win a cup with luck.

You don't win 4 titles with luck
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We've been lucky 6 times. Please get your crayons out and draw a 4 leaf clover, maybe you'll win the CL this time.

Maybe at 200k posts you'll post something sensible regarding football.
 
Amjid Javed said:
Adams won a PL and FA cup double in his final season, not bad for someone supposedly running slow.

All VVD is doing is getting bent over and violated every game. Same violation uve Been getting for last 2 months on here.
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LOL, as pointed out, he barely played and he certainly was not at his top level- nowhwre near. Utter hypocrisy and delusion....

VVD won the prem a matter of months ago...

Some intelligence...!
 
KingKhanWC said:
LFC had 68% possession, 23 shots, 4 on target. Sunderland had 32% possession, 9 shots and 6 on target. If this is domination from Sunderland you and Arteta are smarter than Einstein.

City will go on a winning run now, Arsenal will prob drop points to Villa. I'd worry about smashing a bottle on the floor, not how dominate Sunderland are.
:wenger
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They really won't

They've conceded 8 goals in their last 3 games, that's not a team in full flow

City will win 2-3 games but then lose games consistently
 
Amjid Javed said:
Mediocre players like carragher, jonny Evans, Ryan Bertrand have win CL. Its a cup competition. Nothing special

You can win a cup with luck.

You don't win 4 titles with luck
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Spot on. There's a reason why Clough and Paisley regard winning the PL as the greatest achievement for a manager of a PL side.

To do it week in and week out for 38 games isn't the same as a the CL where it's defined by a few knockout rounds.

Won't paint all Liverpool fans with the same brush but some of them talk like they're on spice. Remember "Liverpool are a team in transition"? :ROFLMAO:

I mean what next "VVD is a player in transition"? :klopp
 
KingKhanWC said:
Slot won the league with Klopps team and mainly because Salah was on fire with both goals and assists. He decided to change the team radically, with no defenders bought in. Now he is confused, sometimes starts with a deep block, other times tries to press and wrongly too. Playing Isak over Ekitike was a disgrace.

I always back my team and want them to win but if we finish outside of Europe, its a blessing in disguise. A new manager.
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Slot deserves utmost credit for the title win. He was brilliant at making HT tactical tweaks and correct subs which helped turnaround countless games - Brighton and Fulham (with 10 men) at home are two examples I immediately think of. We were more compact defensively than the end of Klopp's time (though became slacker later on).

Salah's outstanding season was in no small part thanks to Slot giving him less defensive responsibility. Also if winning the league was as easy as people make - we wouldn't have only won 2 in 35 years.

However he's made some mistakes:

1) Our buildup is so slow ! Watching our defenders endlessly recycle the ball in our half is torture. Trent was so good at what the nerds call "ball progression" which we haven't replaced. Opponents know to press VVD and let Konate or our FBs have possession as they'll do nothing with it.

2) Too much squad turnover. Some of it was enforced (Jota tragedy/Diaz wanting out) but partly our choice. Slot oversaw big turnovers at Feyenoord without major dips in results, but that's harder to do in a stronger league like England's.

3) Lack of plan for the new signings. If you spend a fortune for Isak and Wirtz then create a system to maximise their output !

Isak needs two quick, hard-working wingers who can press and provide service like Gordon and Murphy at Newcastle - not an ageing Salah who now frequently struggles to beat his FB 1v1 and the one-dimensional Gakpo. Apparently we didn't buy a winger because we didn't want to block Rio Ngumoha's "pathway" which was dumb as he's only 17.

If Wirtz plays as a #10 then you need two natural DMs like Rice and Zubimendi who are physical, win duels and can sweep up when Wirtz loses possession. Gravenberch and MacAllister's natural instincts however are to get forward. Neither are specialist DMs like Fabinho.

A point against Sunderland isn't the worst result given their impressive start. Nor do I mind us just being hard to beat and not worrying about pretty football especially when we leak goals like a sieve. However I'm dreading Leeds on SAT as they look in good form, and we look so short on confidence.
 
Markhor said:
Slot deserves utmost credit for the title win. He was brilliant at making HT tactical tweaks and correct subs which helped turnaround countless games - Brighton and Fulham (with 10 men) at home are two examples I immediately think of. We were more compact defensively than the end of Klopp's time (though became slacker later on).

Salah's outstanding season was in no small part thanks to Slot giving him less defensive responsibility. Also if winning the league was as easy as people make - we wouldn't have only won 2 in 35 years.

However he's made some mistakes:

1) Our buildup is so slow ! Watching our defenders endlessly recycle the ball in our half is torture. Trent was so good at what the nerds call "ball progression" which we haven't replaced. Opponents know to press VVD and let Konate or our FBs have possession as they'll do nothing with it.

2) Too much squad turnover. Some of it was enforced (Jota tragedy/Diaz wanting out) but partly our choice. Slot oversaw big turnovers at Feyenoord without major dips in results, but that's harder to do in a stronger league like England's.

3) Lack of plan for the new signings. If you spend a fortune for Isak and Wirtz then create a system to maximise their output !

Isak needs two quick, hard-working wingers who can press and provide service like Gordon and Murphy at Newcastle - not an ageing Salah who now frequently struggles to beat his FB 1v1 and the one-dimensional Gakpo. Apparently we didn't buy a winger because we didn't want to block Rio Ngumoha's "pathway" which was dumb as he's only 17.

If Wirtz plays as a #10 then you need two natural DMs like Rice and Zubimendi who are physical, win duels and can sweep up when Wirtz loses possession. Gravenberch and MacAllister's natural instincts however are to get forward. Neither are specialist DMs like Fabinho.

A point against Sunderland isn't the worst result given their impressive start. Nor do I mind us just being hard to beat and not worrying about pretty football especially when we leak goals like a sieve. However I'm dreading Leeds on SAT as they look in good form, and we look so short on confidence.
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Some great points.

Interestingly, @Geordie Ahmed also highlighted the adaptations needed to supplement Isak.
 
topspin said:
Spot on. There's a reason why Clough and Paisley regard winning the PL as the greatest achievement for a manager of a PL side.

To do it week in and week out for 38 games isn't the same as a the CL where it's defined by a few knockout rounds.

Won't paint all Liverpool fans with the same brush but some of them talk like they're on spice. Remember "Liverpool are a team in transition"? :ROFLMAO:

I mean what next "VVD is a player in transition"? :klopp
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Lol, incoroporating so many new players and alterations that were made to the style of play- it is a transition, i can see that Arsenal fans are desperate to have potshots, no worries at all, a good season to pick. Similarly, last year when Arsenal fans were talking of how it was a title handed away with others playing so poorly- ironicalky, the start of this season is similqr, one standout team and a lot of struggles elsewhere.

I actually worry over next season for Liverpool as the CB pairing as well as the RW position will need addressing with the apparent rapid decline in VVD and Mo Salah, that is not going to be easy either!
 
GOSH11 said:
Lol, incoroporating so many new players and alterations that were made to the style of play- it is a transition, i can see that Arsenal fans are desperate to have potshots, no worries at all, a good season to pick. Similarly, last year when Arsenal fans were talking of how it was a title handed away with others playing so poorly- ironicalky, the start of this season is similqr, one standout team and a lot of struggles elsewhere.

I actually worry over next season for Liverpool as the CB pairing as well as the RW position will need addressing with the apparent rapid decline in VVD and Mo Salah, that is not going to be easy either!
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You've hit the nail on the head. Both Salah and VVD were least of the Problems for Slot coming in to the season. Both are clearly showing signs of regression which adds to the Problems.

Talking of VVD. In the era of VAR, he's truly been a magnificent Defender when in his prime, for me right up there with the likes of Rio , Terry, Stam, vidic as one of the very best.
 
GOSH11 said:
Lol, incoroporating so many new players and alterations that were made to the style of play- it is a transition.
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Absolutely waffling excuses. Plenty of teams change their playing style season upon season.

Also there was no need for slot to integrate so many new players at once into the starting 11.

Liverpool should have slowly Introduced certain players into starting 11, whilst keeping the main core of last seasons 11. That's the managers poor decision not transition..

Arsenal fans could use same "transition" excuses as we have had to change style of play to accommodate gyokeres, also Zubimendi and eze into side as well.

Stop playing usual victims excuses.

Other fans will take pot shots, simply because Liverpool fans can't take criticism or banter. The lack of intelligent counter points on conversations when Liverpool fans are involved is always there to see.
 
Amjid Javed said:
Absolutely waffling excuses. Plenty of teams change their playing style season upon season.

Also there was no need for slot to integrate so many new players at once into the starting 11.

Liverpool should have slowly Introduced certain players into starting 11, whilst keeping the main core of last seasons 11. That's the managers poor decision not transition..

Arsenal fans could use same "transition" excuses as we have had to change style of play to accommodate gyokeres, also Zubimendi and eze into side as well.

Stop playing usual victims excuses.

Other fans will take pot shots, simply because Liverpool fans can't take criticism or banter. The lack of intelligent counter points on conversations when Liverpool fans are involved is always there to see.
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No need for so many changes- probably right but they were done and that has led to a state of flux, indecision and exposed glaring failings...

I can see Arsenal fans, who desperately want this potential and probable prem title to be valued and not have their own points from last season exposed- a lot pf talk that Liverpool won it as others were bad- Only 1 decent team this season thus far.

Arsenal have hit the ground running, manager in place for several years, a lot of credit to Arteta for this year.
 
aboveandbeyond said:
You've hit the nail on the head. Both Salah and VVD were least of the Problems for Slot coming in to the season. Both are clearly showing signs of regression which adds to the Problems.

Talking of VVD. In the era of VAR, he's truly been a magnificent Defender when in his prime, for me right up there with the likes of Rio , Terry, Stam, vidic as one of the very best.
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Very well put bhai!
 
GOSH11 said:
No need for so many changes- probably right but they were done and that has led to a state of flux, indecision and exposed glaring failings...

I can see Arsenal fans, who desperately want this potential and probable prem title to be valued and not have their own points from last season exposed- a lot pf talk that Liverpool won it as others were bad- Only 1 decent team this season thus far.

Arsenal have hit the ground running, manager in place for several years, a lot of credit to Arteta for this year.
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Liverpool deserved the title last year, you won't it with 5 games to spare. Nothing to be devalued at all. Liverpool could have easily got over 90 points last season.

Any team who wins a title deserves it. So not sure why your nit picking here.

Again slots deserves credit last season. This season he's to blame as are the players. The transition excuses doesn't wash
 
Geordie Ahmed said:
They really won't

They've conceded 8 goals in their last 3 games, that's not a team in full flow

City will win 2-3 games but then lose games consistently
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City are improving every week, scoring plenty of goals. Pep is a far superiour manager, he is far ahead of any other manager in the PL now.

Arsenal should really walk it as City and LFC are still not to their levels of past years but Arteta has proved his team bottles it later in the season. If you're a gambling man, put your house on Arsenal but I dont think you would even if you were.
 
Markhor said:
Slot deserves utmost credit for the title win. He was brilliant at making HT tactical tweaks and correct subs which helped turnaround countless games - Brighton and Fulham (with 10 men) at home are two examples I immediately think of. We were more compact defensively than the end of Klopp's time (though became slacker later on).

Salah's outstanding season was in no small part thanks to Slot giving him less defensive responsibility. Also if winning the league was as easy as people make - we wouldn't have only won 2 in 35 years.

However he's made some mistakes:

1) Our buildup is so slow ! Watching our defenders endlessly recycle the ball in our half is torture. Trent was so good at what the nerds call "ball progression" which we haven't replaced. Opponents know to press VVD and let Konate or our FBs have possession as they'll do nothing with it.

2) Too much squad turnover. Some of it was enforced (Jota tragedy/Diaz wanting out) but partly our choice. Slot oversaw big turnovers at Feyenoord without major dips in results, but that's harder to do in a stronger league like England's.

3) Lack of plan for the new signings. If you spend a fortune for Isak and Wirtz then create a system to maximise their output !

Isak needs two quick, hard-working wingers who can press and provide service like Gordon and Murphy at Newcastle - not an ageing Salah who now frequently struggles to beat his FB 1v1 and the one-dimensional Gakpo. Apparently we didn't buy a winger because we didn't want to block Rio Ngumoha's "pathway" which was dumb as he's only 17.

If Wirtz plays as a #10 then you need two natural DMs like Rice and Zubimendi who are physical, win duels and can sweep up when Wirtz loses possession. Gravenberch and MacAllister's natural instincts however are to get forward. Neither are specialist DMs like Fabinho.

A point against Sunderland isn't the worst result given their impressive start. Nor do I mind us just being hard to beat and not worrying about pretty football especially when we leak goals like a sieve. However I'm dreading Leeds on SAT as they look in good form, and we look so short on confidence.
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Good read as always, agree with most.

The difference I see with Klopp and Slot is Jurgen would take all the blame. Slot lays it on the players. He got rid of Quansah because he didnt like him but failed to replace him. He keeps playing Isak when Ekitike is in far better form, the same goes for Kerkez when Robbo was playing well. To be a LFC manager you have to be brave and do whats best for the team, which imo he is not atm.

Outside of top 6 he sacked.
 
KingKhanWC said:
City are improving every week, scoring plenty of goals. Pep is a far superiour manager, he is far ahead of any other manager in the PL now.

Arsenal should really walk it as City and LFC are still not to their levels of past years but Arteta has proved his team bottles it later in the season. If you're a gambling man, put your house on Arsenal but I dont think you would even if you were.
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Only bottle job here is you, the guy that runs off after every Liverpool defeat.

The fact you've got your prayer mat out and your begging for favours from man city, shows your level of desperation
 
KingKhanWC said:
City are improving every week, scoring plenty of goals. Pep is a far superiour manager, he is far ahead of any other manager in the PL now.

Arsenal should really walk it as City and LFC are still not to their levels of past years but Arteta has proved his team bottles it later in the season. If you're a gambling man, put your house on Arsenal but I dont think you would even if you were.
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I don't think City have really improved, they have Haaland who is lethal and Foden who seems to be getting back to his best but their defensive vulnerabilities are the same at the start of the season as they are now

If I did bet I would put it on Arsenal, firstly they look more well rounded and defensively they are way better than City but secondly the 5 point lead they have actually feels bigger for me, due to the fixtures Arsenal have gotten out of the way

But football is a funny old game, things can change quickly
 
Amjid Javed said:
Liverpool deserved the title last year, you won't it with 5 games to spare. Nothing to be devalued at all. Liverpool could have easily got over 90 points last season.

Any team who wins a title deserves it. So not sure why your nit picking here.

Again slots deserves credit last season. This season he's to blame as are the players. The transition excuses doesn't wash
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Of course that is the story now.... would not want anyone to throw the same accusations at Arsenal. For the record, I actually agree with the - any team who wins a title deserves it.

I also agree on the coach and players are at fault but that does not mean to say there is not a transition, multitude of factors- if you thought I was absolving the players and coach- no chance at all but i am mindful of all the changes and there is more to come i.e. CB.
 
GOSH11 said:
Arsenal tinted glasses if ever i saw them... lol
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Campbell was class. I regard him to be superior because of his consistency and longevity. His invincible season was surpasses anything I've seen from VVD.
 
GOSH11 said:
Lol, incoroporating so many new players and alterations that were made to the style of play- it is a transition, i can see that Arsenal fans are desperate to have potshots, no worries at all, a good season to pick. Similarly, last year when Arsenal fans were talking of how it was a title handed away with others playing so poorly- ironicalky, the start of this season is similqr, one standout team and a lot of struggles elsewhere.

I actually worry over next season for Liverpool as the CB pairing as well as the RW position will need addressing with the apparent rapid decline in VVD and Mo Salah, that is not going to be easy either!
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Liverpool had strengthened their squad, particularly in attack and midfield, and were widely tipped as favourites - especially by the bookmakers. In the Premier League thread, I even predicted them to win the title. That’s why, after just ten or so games, it feels disingenuous to suddenly shift the narrative and call this a transitional season.

As for what’s gone wrong, I think the real issue lies deeper. Yes, Liverpool should have reinforced at centre back and defensive midfield during the summer window, but my sense is that Slot may already have lost the dressing room.
 
Geordie Ahmed said:
I don't think City have really improved, they have Haaland who is lethal and Foden who seems to be getting back to his best but their defensive vulnerabilities are the same at the start of the season as they are now

If I did bet I would put it on Arsenal, firstly they look more well rounded and defensively they are way better than City but secondly the 5 point lead they have actually feels bigger for me, due to the fixtures Arsenal have gotten out of the way

But football is a funny old game, things can change quickly
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Arsenal had the best defensive until recent injuries, Villa will be confident to score minimum 1 goal and will be looking for more next game .

City have a far superior attack , Halaand v Gyokeres , is an elite striker v a championship striker . City have depth too ., good keeper too .

Sure anything can happen but Arsenal if they do win it , won’t with 4 or more games to spare as lfc did . City are well in this .
 
topspin said:
Campbell was class. I regard him to be superior because of his consistency and longevity. His invincible season was surpasses anything I've seen from VVD.
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Tbh, i would also have Campbell above VVD, he was somw specimen of a centreback.

However, i would certainly place prime VVD in that same class/rung
 
topspin said:
Liverpool had strengthened their squad, particularly in attack and midfield, and were widely tipped as favourites - especially by the bookmakers. In the Premier League thread, I even predicted them to win the title. That’s why, after just ten or so games, it feels disingenuous to suddenly shift the narrative and call this a transitional season.

As for what’s gone wrong, I think the real issue lies deeper. Yes, Liverpool should have reinforced at centre back and defensive midfield during the summer window, but my sense is that Slot may already have lost the dressing room.
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I also think, if Jota had not passed away, he was a reliable bench striker and i doubt we buy 2 strikers, a lot of what if's.

I agree re loss of dressing room and i do not see Salah helping with that. Only plus i am hoping is a BIG fee for Salah end of season to Saudi with a great send off In sha Allah
 
GOSH11 said:
I also think, if Jota had not passed away, he was a reliable bench striker and i doubt we buy 2 strikers, a lot of what if's.

I agree re loss of dressing room and i do not see Salah helping with that. Only plus i am hoping is a BIG fee for Salah end of season to Saudi with a great send off In sha Allah
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Yes, I can see Liverpool mounting a title challenge next season after sorting out their defenders and DM. If I were Liverpool, I would buy Guehi in January for cheap rather than wait till summer. I'm sure the likes of Real Madrid, Bayern, City will try to sign him in the summer when his contract expires.
 
KingKhanWC said:
Arsenal had the best defensive until recent injuries, Villa will be confident to score minimum 1 goal and will be looking for more next game .

City have a far superior attack , Halaand v Gyokeres , is an elite striker v a championship striker . City have depth too ., good keeper too .

Sure anything can happen but Arsenal if they do win it , won’t with 4 or more games to spare as lfc did . City are well in this .
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Wether a team wins the league with 5 games to spare or with the last kick of the season, end result is you win the league. The fact your harping on about city and liverpools levels, shows how desperate you are right now.

Your already waffling excuses to try down play other teams, typical cry baby Liverpool desperation. The fact you'd in a midtable battle with the worst man united team in PL history, says it all.

Make sure you keep begging for Pep to bail you out whilst saying your daily prayers.

Yes City should not be written off and Pep is a great manager, but the fact you can't cope with liverpools failure and uve got you begging bowl out for man city is hilarious
 
IAJ said:
What a match! Being 0-2 and then 3-3. well done Leeds!
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Good relegation scrap, but you need to beating mediocre teams like this who have spent 400M to help avoid relegation
 
Proper relegation dogfight game.

I'll be amazed if we concede less than 60 goals by the end of the season.
 
Slots style and tactics are showing through this season . Lots of possession but very little created up front

I've seen enough that this guy cannot compete against its rivals

He needs to go
 
Amjid Javed said:
More like lost his bottle, just like your pathetic team. Can't even win games in an "easy league"

🤣🤣🤣
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He is an ETH in disguise. The quicker he departs the better. They were in control of the game till Konate done a Konate out of the blue.
 
aboveandbeyond said:
Not sure Slot is to blame for Comical defending by experienced premier league defenders.
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Why is he playing Konate week in week out. Gomes or Gravenbirch should play there, cant do any worse! Remind me whats the definition of insanity according to Einstein
 
IronShield said:
Why is he playing Konate week in week out. Gomes or Gravenbirch should play there, cant do any worse! Remind me whats the definition of insanity according to Einstein
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You conceded in added time in all these games:

Palace
Utd
Chelsea
Leeds

A sign of a side who has a soft under belly.
 
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