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Pakistan v Australia | 2nd Test | 1/11/2014 | Abu Dhabi l Day 3

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It was a regular yorker and he played it in embarrassing fashion. Shehzad is a little better against pace but an absolute bunny vs spin.

He's no future great.

Great perhaps not but definitely better than Hafeez.

Not a regular yorker, a brilliant one as the commies said. Your cricket analysis continues to deteriorate quicker than this pitch.
 
Your bowlers skilttled them out for 260 on a road and whats the reason they cant do it again. If he was expecting 450 plus made by australia in the third innings.. I am worried for misbah.

If you expect us to get bowled out for 50, I am worried for you.
 
Almost 350 ahead with 8 wickets in hand batting on a road and the wrist-slitters are out in force, do you guys just not understand how test cricket works or what the openers were trying to do?

Same idiots would have crucified Shehzad if he settled himself first. A bunch of hypocrites and nothing else.
 
Lol why are y'all worried no way are Pakistan losing this.Already lead by 339

I know we are in a strong position but enforcing the follow on is the positive move and these are the small small decisions that make Misbah seem somewhat of a defensive captain. (EDIT : AFRIDI IS A HACK :) - I would've backed my bowlers to take another 10 wickets for 200-230 runs more.
 
Great perhaps not but definitely better than Hafeez.

Not a regular yorker, a brilliant one as the commies said. Your cricket analysis continues to deteriorate quicker than this pitch.

Shehzad made it better than it was because he played it poorly. By no means was it unplayable.

His footwork was terrible.

Maybe, but I can spot a chucker when I see one better than you. :21:
 
Almost 350 ahead with 8 wickets in hand batting on a road and the wrist-slitters are out in force, do you guys just not understand how test cricket works or what the openers were trying to do?

Look like complete idiots and they succeeded in emphatic fashion. You can score quickly without playing hack shots.
 
In modern day cricket no one enforces follow on, its out of practice, it's one of the most useless thing to do unless you're playing Namibia, pak fans need to update themselves on cricket. You'll just burn out you bowlers for no reason.
 
If you expect us to get bowled out for 50, I am worried for you.
We were on top and had a lifetime opportunity to win by an innings against australia. But if you dont have faith in your own bowlers then you miss these opportunities.

Win , we will but wont be as good as an innings victory.
 
We were on top and had a lifetime opportunity to win by an innings against australia. But if you dont have faith in your own bowlers then you miss these opportunities.

Win , we will but wont be as good as an innings victory.
No one enforces follow on in modern day cricket anymore, it's an abandoned practice, period.
 
I feel that Pak would win either way. That follow-on burn to Aus would be awesome though.
 
I know we are in a strong position but enforcing the follow on is the positive move and these are the small small decisions that make Misbah seem somewhat of a defensive captain. (EDIT : AFRIDI IS A HACK :) - I would've backed my bowlers to take another 10 wickets for 200-230 runs more.

Positive my ****. You do what gives you the best chance to win the test and the series, not what appears to be aggressive, break records or create nice looking headlines.

Give your bowlers a rest, grind the Aussies into the dirt by making them spend more time standing around in the field before making them bat last trying to save a game with no hope of victory. Crush them completely.
 
What is wrong with you guys? We're 300+ ahead and this pitch is degrading fast. No way are the Aussies chasing down 450 on this pitch in the last innings. This match is ours.

You know these are these small reasons why Misbah gets the 'defensive captain' stick from many of his critics. The guy has been brilliant in his decisions throughout the series but why would you not follow on when the opposition needs 300+ to just make us bat once more. As [MENTION=57110]JibranAnsari[/MENTION] said this defeatist mentality to say we cannot chase in the 4th innings - we have to be positive from the word GO and grind the opposition. An innings win is a massive achievement in terms of morale and I would have backed my bowlers to take another 20 wickets here - if need be
 
Shehzad made it better than it was because he played it poorly. By no means was it unplayable.

His footwork was terrible.

Maybe, but I can spot a chucker when I see one better than you. :21:

Unplayable when you've just come in after fielding for two sessions and being in attack mode. Very easy to sit in an arm-chair and criticize the guy who has scored a century against the Aussies and was murdering MJ before that dismissal.

Shehzad > Hafeez which I know is hard to accept for Professor's #1 student.
 
Look like complete idiots and they succeeded in emphatic fashion. You can score quickly without playing hack shots.

You didn't answer the question did you?

Trying to do ≠ What they actually did
 
Positive my ****. You do what gives you the best chance to win the test and the series, not what appears to be aggressive, break records or create nice looking headlines.

Give your bowlers a rest, grind the Aussies into the dirt by making them spend more time standing around in the field before making them bat last trying to save a game with no hope of victory. Crush them completely.

Australia's Achilles heel is batting on spinning tracks not vice versa. You exploit your oppositions weakness and shoot them mentally for future contests. I will give you an example, why did our titans of 90s and early 2000s couldn't do what these lots have done here - simple answer that from day 1 were taking the attack to them.
 
. An innings win is a massive achievement in terms of morale and I would have backed my bowlers to take another 20 wickets here - if need be

Beating Australia for the first time in 20 years isn't good enough for morale already?
 
You know these are these small reasons why Misbah gets the 'defensive captain' stick from many of his critics. The guy has been brilliant in his decisions throughout the series but why would you not follow on when the opposition needs 300+ to just make us bat once more. As [MENTION=57110]JibranAnsari[/MENTION] said this defeatist mentality to say we cannot chase in the 4th innings - we have to be positive from the word GO and grind the opposition. An innings win is a massive achievement in terms of morale and I would have backed my bowlers to take another 20 wickets here - if need be

I would rather have a defensive captain deliver me a 2:0 series win over the Aussies than an attacking captain giving the Aussies a chance at levelling this series.

Not to mention that the bowlers will perform better when they are fully rested and the morale of the Aussies is at a complete low since they have no chance of winning.

Graem Smith, one of the best captains ever would have done the same thing here.
 
Shehzad made it better than it was because he played it poorly. By no means was it unplayable.

His footwork was terrible.

Maybe, but I can spot a chucker when I see one better than you. :21:

It was a brilliant delivery.

A yorker coming in at 150k's is always tough. I have seen many greats of the game get out in the same fashion.
 
Unplayable when you've just come in after fielding for two sessions and being in attack mode. Very easy to sit in an arm-chair and criticize the guy who has scored a century against the Aussies and was murdering MJ before that dismissal.

Shehzad > Hafeez which I know is hard to accept for Professor's #1 student.

Murder that lasted for 3 deliveries.

Professor isn't a Test batsman, when did I ever say otherwise? Calling Shehzad the new Professor wasn't meant to be an honor, was it?
 
Professor's #1 fan trying to make his beloved hack look better by bringing Shehzad down to his level.

Same guy would have been posting at 100 p/m if Shehzad was playing like these two are.
 
Murder that lasted for 3 deliveries.

Professor isn't a Test batsman, when did I ever say otherwise? Calling Shehzad the new Professor wasn't meant to be an honor, was it?

Atleast it lasted.

Shehzad is a test batsman which is why I was pointing out the major flaw in your statement.
 
Professor's #1 fan trying to make his beloved hack look better by bringing Shehzad down to his level.

Same guy would have been posting at 100 p/m if Shehzad was playing like these two are.

Not a professor supporter in Tests, he's only playing because Chuckmal has been shown the door.
 
You guys need some cricket lessons. Well, Jibran naybe. Greenknight is beyond the help of even the best teachers

The problem of Blind Misbah devotees are that they twists the inner meaning even if we post something supporting Misbah :facepalm:
 
These guys need to step it up. Doesn't matter if we get shot out for 100, that will be more than enough.
 
Come on Azhar, hit him down the ground like you did in the last innings.
 
We have only one Test standard opener and he's batting at number 3. :srt
 
You asked what the openers were trying to do, didn't you?

And you blatantly lied through your teeth. Shehzad was bowled by a great ball, Hafeez was the headless chicken.
 
You asked what the openers were trying to do, didn't you?

Yes, and you replied to it twice without answering the question both times.

And you blatantly lied through your teeth. Shehzad was bowled by a great ball, Hafeez was the headless chicken.

Also not relevant to the question tbf.

I'm just concerned with the cricketing logic and the gameplan. Not the fact that Hafeez can't bat and Shezhad got carried away
 
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At this stage, I'd rather have all our batsman play like Shehzad than to do this. What exactly is the point of leaving deliveries right now?
 
Azhar is making my brain melt. Atleast strike at a rate of 50-60.
 
Hafeez is a quality test Allrounder who always gets some classy digital scores with classy wicketless spells. but he should be in the team since his presence provides the 'X' factor to the Team :hafeez2

Shehzad scores centuries and half centuries so comfortably , but he is not good enough and should be thrown out of the Team, because he is Upul Tharanga Of Pakistan Team. He'll never progress!!
 
If Amin had played that pull shot Mamoon would have talked about it for the next year at-least. How he should be given a run forever and how he is potentially our best bat.

And if he had by some miracle crossed fifty for once......
 
Yes, and you replied to it twice without answering the question both times.



Also not relevant to the question tbf.

I'm just concerned with the cricketing logic and the gameplan. Not the fact that Hafeez can't bat and Shezhad got carried away

I did, so should we praise them for intent or execution? A simple question.
 
If Amin had played that pull shot Mamoon would have talked about it for the next year at-least. How he should be given a run forever and how he is potentially our best bat.

And if he had by some miracle crossed fifty for once......

This isn't the first time Shehzad has perished when trying to be aggressive.
 
Pakistani batsmen forgot they are playing against a top side for a moment. Concentration and hard work is back.
 
some ball are turning some aren't...5th day would be fun. Pakistan needs to bat as long as they can before tea tomorrow.
 
:))) Warner our 12th player scoring plenty of runs behind the wickets for us..
 
So basically we are 2-356. I guess we are looking to get to around 500 then declare again.
 
I did, so should we praise them for intent or execution? A simple question.

Responding to a question with a question is not giving an answer. You're trying to the change the subject again when you know fully well that my question wasn't concerned with praise or criticism of the openers
 
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