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Pakistan v New Zealand | 2nd ODI | Sharjah | December 12, 2014 | Pakistan Innings

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Sums up how idiotic our management is to put these atrocious batsmen onto our team. We're excited that these guys continue to prove that they're garbage and don't deserve opportunities so we can have a chance at the WC. Don't be butthurt because you're lover boys can't play ODI cricket at all but you can never accept it.


Ermm my favorite?

You obviously associate me with some warped sense of fanboysim which I don't have.

Asad was awful in last match, bad in this match and if he gets the chop then so be it.

He can't complain on back of last two performances.
 
You keep throwing a false narrative. No one wants to see players who in the long run are not going to perform for Pakistan. If losing the match the make the necessary changes in the long run. So be it. I hope we win but so hope Haris whom I think is a real player is a key component to it again.

It's about long term success.

No, please put it this way: we are sad that we have to see our team suffer in the hands of incompetent players. and we are not happy about it but, we know that players like younis and asad will fail as they are not good players. and before they lose us 100 matches, it would be better that they get dropped as soon as possible. nobody is wishing pakistan to lose, at least now me..........


I hope Hafeez makes a century and misbah plays well, we make a decent score and win. Hafeez gets cleared and we can have him one down in WC, instead of Younis. how about this.
 
ramiz making sense for once by saying "we are stuck in the 80's and 90's mindset".
 
And how do you believe that he's hiding? Jeez.

Because he has refused in the past to move up the order, and because you don't throw a young player in at 5 above the captain when the team is struggling. Because 6 is traditionally the position a new middle order batsman plays at. Because Misbah is a slow player who shouldn't be coming at 6, he should be higher up to accomodate his tuk tuk. Enough reasons?
 
ramiz making sense for once by saying "we are stuck in the 80's and 90's mindset".

I disagree with 99% of what Rameez says but he is talking truth. They were talking about Fawad, Maqood and Akmal last match, which is what us fans want to see as well
 
Makes me sad that M. Sami is not among our bowling line-up. Not used to seeing faster bowlers in opposition team.
 
Because he has refused in the past to move up the order, and because you don't throw a young player in at 5 above the captain when the team is struggling. Because 6 is traditionally the position a new middle order batsman plays at. Because Misbah is a slow player who shouldn't be coming at 6, he should be higher up to accomodate his tuk tuk. Enough reasons?

when he comes up the order we start complaining youngster do not get chances up the order.
 
Because he has refused in the past to move up the order, and because you don't throw a young player in at 5 above the captain when the team is struggling. Because 6 is traditionally the position a new middle order batsman plays at. Because Misbah is a slow player who shouldn't be coming at 6, he should be higher up to accomodate his tuk tuk. Enough reasons?

Haris made 85 in the last match in that position. If he can handle such pressure then why not move him up the order?
 
Ermm my favorite?

You obviously associate me with some warped sense of fanboysim which I don't have.

Asad was awful in last match, bad in this match and if he gets the chop then so be it.

He can't complain on back of last two performances.

Well I never called him you're favourite, but the fact that you've actually defended his selection makes me believe you're a Shafiq lover. Anyone who thinks having Shafiq on the ODI team is fine, clearly has some problems. Shafiq should never step onto a ground in an international LOI however, I know that he will definitely be back and continue to provide these atrocious performances.
 
Haris made 85 in the last match in that position. If he can handle such pressure then why not move him up the order?

because you dont move a youngster up the order to open , with the team at 20/3. Misbah is in the team because he can consolidate, thats the main reason.
 
Haris made 85 in the last match in that position. If he can handle such pressure then why not move him up the order?

well ......... he is moved one position above misbah. one at a time ...... and we already have younis and asad up there, come on.
 
No, please put it this way: we are sad that we have to see our team suffer in the hands of incompetent players. and we are not happy about it but, we know that players like younis and asad will fail as they are not good players. and before they lose us 100 matches, it would be better that they get dropped as soon as possible. nobody is wishing pakistan to lose, at least now me..........


I hope Hafeez makes a century and misbah plays well, we make a decent score and win. Hafeez gets cleared and we can have him one down in WC, instead of Younis. how about this.

For me, I just want the 11 best guys. PCB will never select the 11 best guys so we will never consistently win in the long run. I just make predictions on what history has taught me. Shafiq now in 5 ODIs since his come back has one 50 to his name, a 39, 13, 5 and 1. Average below 20, SR in the low 60s, in his 51 now ODIs he averages 25 with an SR of 68. Anyone who says the past with a lot of evidence does not indicate the future, well YK and Shafiq are a perfect example.

I wish Shafiq was actually a good player. I have no personal attachment, I just look and see who has performed and who has the ability to score. Affinity for run as I've always said is a talent.

Maqsood, Harris, Umar, Fawad, Sarfraz, these guys have match winning performances where they put the team on their back. I don't watch Shafiq and see the potential for him to score big runs on a consistent basis.

The former have flaws but there is no reason why anyone could pick Shafiq over them.

He can play the entire ODI series, would htm be shocked if he does, but do I expect performances more often than not? No. That's why he shouldn't play. It's about players who consistently put runs on the board. Shafiq has never done that and if anyone still has any defence it's mind blowing.
 
Because he has refused in the past to move up the order, and because you don't throw a young player in at 5 above the captain when the team is struggling. Because 6 is traditionally the position a new middle order batsman plays at. Because Misbah is a slow player who shouldn't be coming at 6, he should be higher up to accomodate his tuk tuk. Enough reasons?

Oh and another thing:

Misbah moves up the order and fans be like: selfish Misbah not giving youngsters a chance becuz of his tuk tuk!!!
Misbah bats down the order: Coward Misbah exposing youngster to such a situation!! Omg He is destroying his career!!

God when are you fans EVER happy?
 
What in the world is YK doing in the ODI team? Why is Asad Shafiq selected ahead of Umar Akmal....You can't make selection decisions based on emotional quota. Fawad Alam should've been there as well.
 
a batsman who can play such a back foot punch through covers is always quality. haris is quality
 
What in the world is YK doing in the ODI team? Why is Asad Shafiq selected ahead of Umar Akmal....You can't make selection decisions based on emotional quota. Fawad Alam should've been there as well.

this is the most difficult question in kaun banega crorepati???
 
Well I never called him you're favourite, but the fact that you've actually defended his selection makes me believe you're a Shafiq lover. Anyone who thinks having Shafiq on the ODI team is fine, clearly has some problems. Shafiq should never step onto a ground in an international LOI however, I know that he will definitely be back and continue to provide these atrocious performances.

Its not Shafiq.

Even if a cricketer from Abbotabad who didn't know how to hold a bat made it into the team, and if he was on the pitch I'd hope he'd do well.

But if it was obvious he wasn't cut for it, I wouldn't back him forever.

My backing for Shafiq is not permanent as people believe, and if he is left out next 3, I won't say why.

Would be a right decision.
 
just looks so good how effortlessly haris rotates strike. same for sarfaraz
 
Its not Shafiq.

Even if a cricketer from Abbotabad who didn't know how to hold a bat made it into the team, and if he was on the pitch I'd hope he'd do well.

But if it was obvious he wasn't cut for it, I wouldn't back him forever.

My backing for Shafiq is not permanent as people believe, and if he is left out next 3, I won't say why.

Would be a right decision.

Why would you even back him to begin with? He's 30, played 50 matches and hasn't shown you by any means that he can play consistently and effectively. He's a trash ODI player, definitely the worst specialist batsman I've seen play 50 overs for an international squad that has WC aspirations.
 
People complain that his tuk tuk destroys our chances of scoring big so why not?

I think the management don't know what they're doing, with their poor selections and batting order. Misbah better make sure then that he scores quickly if he wants to play at 6.

Other people advocated him coming in at 3 because of the way he plays, but he didnt want to do that.
 
Its not Shafiq.

Even if a cricketer from Abbotabad who didn't know how to hold a bat made it into the team, and if he was on the pitch I'd hope he'd do well.

But if it was obvious he wasn't cut for it, I wouldn't back him forever.

My backing for Shafiq is not permanent as people believe, and if he is left out next 3, I won't say why.

Would be a right decision.

Dr. peoples from abbotabad cant bat???

it seems to be peoples anywhere from pakistan cant bat
 
If Misbah and Hafeez insist for Shafiq and Younis's inclusion it should be on Misbah and Hafeez cost.
 
after overview the score card it came in my notice that younis s/r was 100.......... onething that can help him to go Australia
 
I think the management don't know what they're doing, with their poor selections and batting order. Misbah better make sure then that he scores quickly if he wants to play at 6.

Other people advocated him coming in at 3 because of the way he plays, but he didnt want to do that.

Well last game he was unlucky so he might get his chance now to show if he can bat at 6.
 
I cant make up the ideal team: with misbah, sohaib, haris, fawad, umar and shahzad playing in same 11, unless we should try: Haris or Umar as an opener. Even then it is a difficult task.
 
Dr. peoples from abbotabad cant bat???

it seems to be peoples anywhere from pakistan cant bat

Yaar yey matlab nai tha mera..

Agar mein karachi kehta tow koi banda kehta karachi walay bat nai kar sakty.

Jis ilakay ka kaho wo naraaz hojata hy.

I hope you are not from Abbotabad and I apologize if you think I think they can't . I think even someone from Swabi can be a great cricketer.
 
Why are people making a big issue of Misbahs batting position. We are experimenting here, so if Haris comes in above him and scores runs, all it means is that there is pressure on the management to drop YK and or AS. Because Misbah will not be batting lower than 5 in the WC, and they will not want to waste Haris at 6.

Then again you never know what our management is thinking- no clue why they swapped Asad and YK today?? I'm hoping it was done intentionally to unsettle them so as to show them the door after a few more failures. We can think and overthink but WE JUST DO NOT KNOW!?
 
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