[Report] ICC informs the PCB that India has refused to travel to Pakistan for the ICC Champions Trophy 2025 [Updated Post #418]

Has PCB lost it's mind. are they thinking to boycott a event which is they hosting ? shallow the pride and Play the CT in Hybrid model
 
Hybrid model or just play without them. What's this nonsense about Pakistan boycotting CT? :yk
 
so Disney Hotstar paid 3 Billion $ for Indian Market for rights cycle of 2024-2027. lets say icc did not revived CT as a tournament , how much disney would have bid on rights? 2.4 Billion USD , surely not. A tournament that lasts around a month and the one that will only last 2 weeks surely are not equal for a broadcaster . they will make more money from longer tournament compared to shorter one

A longer tournament has lots of minnow matches. Not worth any money.

Disney has to pay ICC 3bn in 4 installments.
 
The most tragically ironic aspect of this thread is the sheer obsession of Indian extremist posters who, despite rallying for a complete severance of ties between India and Pakistan, spend their lives haunting a Pakistani cricket forum. They demand their government and cricket board isolate Pakistan, yet they can’t resist the compulsion to rack up tens of thousands of posts interacting with the very people they claim to despise.Their hypocrisy knows no bounds.

What’s even more hilarious is their government’s shameless prioritization of its citizens’ lives. The blind cricket team, carried the lowest $ value, and is deemed expendable enough to risk a trip to a so-called “terrorist” country, one allegedly responsible for the deaths of their countrymen. Other sports teams are assigned slightly higher $ value but still disposable worth, and are allowed to travel to Pakistan. But but but wait! The men’s cricket team the supposed national pride must be “protected” due to the priceless value of their lives. So, in India’s warped value system, cricketers’ lives rank higher than jawans on the border.
 
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Its in the best interests, long may it continue….let the PCB and by extension, the incumbent crooks feel this embarrassment and shame. At some point a bone supporting the back will need to be produced.
 
No need to do legal just invite SL

Throw these clowns out
So far, neither has happened. If the ICC had the will, both of these would have happened a long time ago.

I will not bet on either happening.
 
Seriously, PCB will buckle again, the political appointees at the top don't have much options or self respect. Naqvi has already started giving mix signals about hybrid model if receive a written reply from BCCI.

It takes courage, believing in self respect for your country before you can take a firm stand. Remember when APS attack happened in December 2014, Pakistan continued the series against NZ on some flimsy excuse about broadcasting rights/fee blah blah. Likewise when NZ team bailed out last moment in 2021, that clown Ramiz went all bonkers issuing threatening statements how he's going to drag NZ board to accountability and how he's going to make them pay for damages, what happened after that? Likewise in the last installments of national humiliation, we adapted the hybrid model in Asia Cup just cuz PCB once again didn't have the guts to take a courageous and principled stand.
 
Seriously, PCB will buckle again, the political appointees at the top don't have much options or self respect. Naqvi has already started giving mix signals about hybrid model if receive a written reply from BCCI.

It takes courage, believing in self respect for your country before you can take a firm stand. Remember when APS attack happened in December 2014, Pakistan continued the series against NZ on some flimsy excuse about broadcasting rights/fee blah blah. Likewise when NZ team bailed out last moment in 2021, that clown Ramiz went all bonkers issuing threatening statements how he's going to drag NZ board to accountability and how he's going to make them pay for damages, what happened after that? Likewise in the last installments of national humiliation, we adapted the hybrid model in Asia Cup just cuz PCB once again didn't have the guts to take a courageous and principled stand.
Nzland paid for damages in that series and toured immediately the next year. We went for hybrid in Asia Cup because Zaka was spineless.
 
Most pakistanis just like most Indians lack logical/critical thinking which does not let them think beyond the surface and get to the root cause of the problems.

Let’s see what PCB decides next.
 
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Repeating something again and again doesn't make it true.

Pakistan has always played politics in sports when it suits them just like every other nation in the world. The difference here is no nation whines so long and loud like Pakistan when things go against them.

As for CT, Pakistan is the host. India doesnt want to come. Objectively, get ICC to bring in Sri Lanka as a replacement and be done with. BCCI and India do not care. There has been no demand from PCB to kick out India. Why is that? They are only bitching about hybrid model. Simply ask ICC to get SL as a replacement, but as usual Pakistan lacks the spine!
 
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Why not allow 9th ranked team and dump india. Its not a big deal if india does not participate in CT.
Because ICC will not allow it. Common sense. Broadcaster will ask for compensation. They paid the kind of money that they did with the idea that India will participate in all the major ICC tournaments. Sponsors, majority of which are Indian companies, will also pull out.
 
ICC doesn't sell tournament rights separately. The entire time period is sold and then the amount paid in annual installments.
icc does not need to sell rights separately because no such situation has arisen before where we talk about playing without india, it does nt natter if they are sold as package. CT 2025 is not worth 600 Million $ if we isolate it from package or if icc sells it seperately
 
Javed Miandad, Inzamam blast India's 'joke' of a stance on Champions Trophy: 'Pakistan won't only survive but prosper'

The closer we inch towards the ICC Champions Trophy 2025, India's stance on whether the team will travel to Pakistan for the ICC event keeps getting clearer. Rest assured, it will take a miracle… and then some for India to cross the border, which is why former Pakistan greats are annoyed with India's reluctance to budge from their stance. PCB official Mohsin Naqvi on Sunday revealed that the ICC has written to them that India won't come to Pakistan to play, which clearly hasn't sat too well with the likes of Javed Miandad and Inzamam-ul-Haq, among others.

Never afraid to speak his mind, Miandad called for a boycott of India matches. The India vs Pakistan rivalry always holds a special place in the hearts of Indian fans; some even feel that playing India is important for Pakistan as it helps generate revenue; Miandad, however, reckons Pakistan are better off without playing India, indirectly implying that if the reigning T20 World Champions decide not to come, the CT should go on as planned.

"It is a joke that this is happening. Even if we don't play India at all, Pakistan cricket will not only survive but prosper as well as we have shown in the past. I would like to see how the ICC events earn money when there are no Pakistan and India matches," Miandad was quoted as saying by PTI.

"They are depriving cricket of such a big occasion. There is no threat to the Indian team in Pakistan. In fact, they would get the best hospitality here," said Inzamam.

Rashid Latif, another former Pakistan captain, called India's stance unacceptable. "Enough is enough. When all teams are playing in Pakistan without any problem, this decision by India is purely political, and that should be unacceptable in all sports, including cricket," he said.

 
BCCI should just pull out of the event. We have no right to take the tournament away from Pakistan after they were awarded hosting rights. Hybrid model isn't fair either since they have been awarded hosting rights. Since we are not willing to travel to Pakistan, the problem lies with us, not with anyone else. We should just pull out of the tournament.​
 
BCCI should just pull out of the event. We have no right to take the tournament away from Pakistan after they were awarded hosting rights. Hybrid model isn't fair either since they have been awarded hosting rights. Since we are not willing to travel to Pakistan, the problem lies with us, not with anyone else. We should just pull out of the tournament.​
Problem is money at the end of the day. Pakistan is a push over nation. If it was a capable nation, you wouldn't be seeing a bunch of Pakistani students run away to overseas countries and start a new life.

At the end of the day the country has been given alot of money but not only is it incompetent in utilising it properly, it hasn't been able to get rid of its hostile borders.

China doesn't give a damn, India and Afghanistan being hostile is on them. Similarly Bangladesh or any other nation closeby just doesn't care and Is overall disassociated.

Its a country with barely any support and a country that is being run by a government that has no clue on how to run a country.
 
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BCCI should just pull out of the event. We have no right to take the tournament away from Pakistan after they were awarded hosting rights. Hybrid model isn't fair either since they have been awarded hosting rights. Since we are not willing to travel to Pakistan, the problem lies with us, not with anyone else. We should just pull out of the tournament.​
Why should india pullout from champions trophy. India has already signed the agreement to play champion trophy but they did not sign that they will Play in pakistan. Both agreement are different so people are need to understand this before any discussion .
 
Pakistan boycotting will give a strong message . Yes it will be unfortunate but Pakistan is left with no choice . India’s attitude has been horrible they never want to make a step forward .
 
I read some posts here that PCB will sue BCCI?

What will PCB sue BCCI for? What obligation does BCCI have towards PCB? Has BCCI signed any agreement with PCB?
 
Pakistan boycotting will give a strong message . Yes it will be unfortunate but Pakistan is left with no choice . India’s attitude has been horrible they never want to make a step forward .
Have you even think the implementation of boycotting the ICC Event by PCB?
 
I read some posts here that PCB will sue BCCI?

What will PCB sue BCCI for? What obligation does BCCI have towards PCB? Has BCCI signed any agreement with PCB?
Its seem like PCB legal team is Full of incompetent peoples .they were already lost a case against india under Najam Sethi .

I'm 100% dam sure they will lose against BCCI this time also if they file any case against BCCI . BCCI does not signed any agreement with PCB .how follish they are ?
 
Its seem like PCB legal team is Full of incompetent peoples .they were already lost a case against india under Najam Sethi .

I'm 100% dam sure they will lose against BCCI this time also if they file any case against BCCI . BCCI does not signed any agreement with PCB .how follish they are ?
I read some posts here that PCB will sue BCCI?

What will PCB sue BCCI for? What obligation does BCCI have towards PCB? Has BCCI signed any agreement with PCB?

Other than doing the right thing by cricket, the host nation and trying to not cause disruption for other boards trying to plan for the tournament…

This selective boycott makes no sense. You either play each other or be consistent with your moral approach and don’t play in any event/match at all
 
Other than doing the right thing by cricket, the host nation and trying to not cause disruption for other boards trying to plan for the tournament…

This selective boycott makes no sense. You either play each other or be consistent with your moral approach and don’t play in any event/match at all

BCCI has said it won't travel to Pakistan. If a board doesn't participate in the tournament their share of ICC revenues will be forfeited. So BCCI will lose its proportionate share of CT 2025.

That's the monetary punishment.

There is nothing else there. BCCI has no agreement with PCB. So PCB has no grounds to sue.
 
This is basically a game of chicken now. Who will blink first?

I have been very critical of the Naqvi regime but what I like about the PCB this time around is that they seem to be sticking to their guns. Unlike on previous occasions, where they cowered to the BCCI's stance, this time they are demanding a formal response from the BCCI for not coming. Obviously, if India does not want to come, they won't come. They are the biggest board in town and there is nothing you can do. But what the PCB needs to do is continue standing their ground on this because otherwise you would be setting an irreversible precedent for years to come.

A scenario in which Pakistan is stripped of the hosting rights and does not participate is much better than this hybrid nonsense. Sometimes cutting your nose off to spite your face is the only thing left to do.

Legal action against the BCCI will an absolutely frivolous, waste of time. You will never win that battle and only lose money. So I seriously hope they are not considering that route.
 
This is basically a game of chicken now. Who will blink first?

I have been very critical of the Naqvi regime but what I like about the PCB this time around is that they seem to be sticking to their guns. Unlike on previous occasions, where they cowered to the BCCI's stance, this time they are demanding a formal response from the BCCI for not coming. Obviously, if India does not want to come, they won't come. They are the biggest board in town and there is nothing you can do. But what the PCB needs to do is continue standing their ground on this because otherwise you would be setting an irreversible precedent for years to come.

A scenario in which Pakistan is stripped of the hosting rights and does not participate is much better than this hybrid nonsense. Sometimes cutting your nose off to spite your face is the only thing left to do.

Legal action against the BCCI will an absolutely frivolous, waste of time. You will never win that battle and only lose money. So I seriously hope they are not considering that route.

BCCI has already written to ICC. They will not engage with PCB.

If ICC goes for a hybrid model and PCB boycotts the event and subsequent events in India, how will it affect the BCCI or ICC? What is PCBs end game here?
 
While the PCB has assured India that they’ll be provided maximum security, recent incidents of unrest within Pakistan make the situation complex. The BCCI has been offered a solution where the Indian team can return to Amritsar after each game in Lahore, which is about 25 kilometers away. While this suggestion may seem practical, it raises several critical concerns:

1.Security Risk During Transit: Even with heightened security, transit is inherently vulnerable. A team bus crossing borders frequently would require immense logistical support and careful coordination between both nations’ security agencies. Despite the PCB’s assurances, any isolated incident or misstep could still be catastrophic. If, God forbid, an attack were to occur during one of these journeys, it wouldn’t only threaten Indian players but also discourage other teams from traveling to Pakistan in the future.
2. Impact on Pakistan’s International Hosting Rights: An incident involving India would lead to heightened security concerns from all cricketing nations. Given how hard Pakistan has worked to re-establish itself as a safe cricket destination, a single security lapse could set back years of progress, affecting their chances of hosting future international tournaments.
3. Strain on Players and Officials: Traveling across borders after each match could create logistical difficulties, affecting players’ rest and preparation time. Additionally, the continuous border crossings would require both countries to synchronize closely, which could be disrupted by unforeseen political or diplomatic issues.
4. If other countries perceive India’s security as insufficient, they might request similar measures, creating an unsustainable precedent. The complex logistics could make Pakistan a less viable host for ICC events in the future, impacting the nation’s cricketing ambitions.
In conclusion, while the PCB’s proposed arrangement shows willingness to accommodate India’s concerns, it presents considerable risks. Ensuring a neutral venue could be a safer, more sustainable approach to preserving the tournament’s integrity and avoiding a situation that could escalate into a larger security or diplomatic crisis.
 
Pakistani cricketers are literally 50% maulanas. Have you forgotten the bigoted communal comments from Rashid Latif, Sohail Tanvir, Waqar Younis to say the very least. Even some no name female anchor of yours said some pathetic things about hinduism and was rightfully banned for it.

Pakistanis have earned every bit of hate through their actions not. Your people have no respect for other religions and feel they can openly mock our Gods and our culture. We are not interested in working with your lot.
Dont play us in world cups either then. Be consistent.
 
As per media reports:

PCB is preparing to formally address the ICC regarding India’s decision to withdraw from the upcoming Champions Trophy, which is set to be held in Pakistan.

The PCB plans to submit a letter to the ICC within the next two days, following government guidelines.

Following thorough legal consultations, the PCB aims to ask the ICC for detailed reasons behind the BCCI decision to decline participation in the tournament.

In line with government advice, the PCB plans to take a strong stance and will request an official explanation from the BCCI clarifying their choice.
 
Other than doing the right thing by cricket, the host nation and trying to not cause disruption for other boards trying to plan for the tournament…

This selective boycott makes no sense. You either play each other or be consistent with your moral approach and don’t play in any event/match at all
Whenever any country team tour to another nation its always subject to government permission.

BCCI asked for permission from Government of India and they does not granted the permission . So BCCI is not break any law and they haven't signed any agreement with ICC/ PCB to Play champion trophy in pakistan .

ball is now Pakistan/ ICC court .PCB can host entire tournament in pakistan and they have rights to host it but they need to understand this to ICC not BCCI or India.
 
Pakistan will have to swallow its pride and accept the Hybrid model. They are heavily dependent on ICC handouts, they already have a very poor international and domestic broadcast deal which wont give them more than $10 million for the next 2-3 years, their PSL broadcast deal is also paltry at $12 million per year for the next 2 years and they have to surrender 95% of that to the Franchises.

If IPL can thrive without Pakistani players, why can't International cricket survive without Pakistan?

This is what BCCI wants for Pakistan to unwisely throws their toys out of the pram without thinking about the long term repercussions.

The PCB will get something via the Hybrid model. It is a better option than not getting anything at all.

Pakistan needs to come to terms with where the country of India and the Indian economy is at vis a vis Pakistan. The political realities b/w the two countries cannot be ignored. Play your cards right for now and hopefully things will change for the better in the next 10-20 years.
Stop it with this defeatist lack of self esteem based thinking. Its time to take a stand. If it means the end of Pak cricket then so be it. But principles and honour should come first.
 
Stop it with this defeatist lack of self esteem based thinking. Its time to take a stand. If it means the end of Pak cricket then so be it. But principles and honour should come first.
Yes take a bold stand . hopefully PCB and Pakistan will not take any U turn like always. Its now or never. Pakistan prestige is at stake.

Teach the ICC a lesson that without Pakistan/ PCB, ICC is nothing . :kp
 
BCCI has already written to ICC. They will not engage with PCB.

If ICC goes for a hybrid model and PCB boycotts the event and subsequent events in India, how will it affect the BCCI or ICC? What is PCBs end game here?
To create global awareness about how India uses their power in cricket to blackball Pakistan. Once you get average people like ex-cricketers, global news and media outlets talking, awareness about the issue grows and more people (who aren't necessarily even associated with cricket) start taking notice. Of course, none of this is likely to make any difference to India's stance. But it is atleast a way to challenge the status-quo. There's a chance that it will put pressure on India and cause damage their international image, which has known to be a sticking point for this current government. On top of that, you hurt the ICC a bit as well by cutting off their revenue for India-Pakistan matches. Again, I'm just spit balling here and talking in hypotheticals. It's very likely that none of this will make any difference. But it is certainly better than doing nothing and accepting the current status-quo.

Personally, I don't see any issue in Pakistan missing an ICC tournament or two on Indian soil. It's not like our fans or journalists will be given visas anyway. We could all certainly do without our cricketers getting abused by xenophobic Indian fans. The only tournaments in which this could be an issue will be the upcoming Champions Trophy (if Pakistan chooses to boycott) and the 2029 Champions Trophy which will be held entirely in India. In 2026, the T20 World Cup hosting rights are shared between India and Sri Lanka. And in 2031, the World Cup hosting rights are shared between India and Bangladesh. If Pakistan get to the final (which will for sure be in India), then we'll cross that bridge when come to it.
 
To create global awareness about how India uses their power in cricket to blackball Pakistan. Once you get average people like ex-cricketers, global news and media outlets talking, awareness about the issue grows and more people (who aren't necessarily even associated with cricket) start taking notice. Of course, none of this is likely to make any difference to India's stance. But it is atleast a way to challenge the status-quo. There's a chance that it will put pressure on India and cause damage their international image, which has known to be a sticking point for this current government. On top of that, you hurt the ICC a bit as well by cutting off their revenue for India-Pakistan matches. Again, I'm just spit balling here and talking in hypotheticals. It's very likely that none of this will make any difference. But it is certainly better than doing nothing and accepting the current status-quo.

Personally, I don't see any issue in Pakistan missing an ICC tournament or two on Indian soil. It's not like our fans or journalists will be given visas anyway. We could all certainly do without our cricketers getting abused by xenophobic Indian fans. The only tournaments in which this could be an issue will be the upcoming Champions Trophy (if Pakistan chooses to boycott) and the 2029 Champions Trophy which will be held entirely in India. In 2026, the T20 World Cup hosting rights are shared between India and Sri Lanka. And in 2031, the World Cup hosting rights are shared between India and Bangladesh. If Pakistan get to the final (which will for sure be in India), then we'll cross that bridge when come to it.
There is no global awareness because security issues is real in pakistan.

This is only highlight pakistan issues no other way around

A day Prior to announce made by BCCI there was a blast in pakistan and 25 people were killed in that blast .


 
There is no global awareness because security issues is real in pakistan.

This is only highlight pakistan issues no other way around

A day Prior to announce made by BCCI there was a blast in pakistan and 25 people were killed in that blast .


Security issues exist in every country including India which is home to numerous active insurgencies. A week before the start of the 2017 Champions Trophy there was a terror attack in London. It made no impact on the Champions Trophy. Every country except India has come to Pakistan in recent years and has been perfectly satisfied with the security arrangements. India's excuse that the security situation in Pakistan is bad holds no weight in present day, especially after first-world, Western countries like Australia, New Zealand and England have made multiple multi-format tours to Pakistan since international cricket returned to the country.
 
Strange country. They send various other athletes from mma fighters to bridge players with little to no security.

Pakistan should agree to the hybrid model & send mma cricket xi with a phulwan as a wicket keeper .
 
Security issues exist in every country including India which is home to numerous active insurgencies. A week before the start of the 2017 Champions Trophy there was a terror attack in London. It made no impact on the Champions Trophy. Every country except India has come to Pakistan in recent years and has been perfectly satisfied with the security arrangements. India's excuse that the security situation in Pakistan is bad holds no weight in present day, especially after first-world, Western countries like Australia, New Zealand and England have made multiple multi-format tours to Pakistan since international cricket returned to the country.
That is rubbish. As if the threat is more for citizens of western countries. The hatred for Indians is the highest in Pakistan.
 
Security issues exist in every country including India which is home to numerous active insurgencies. A week before the start of the 2017 Champions Trophy there was a terror attack in London. It made no impact on the Champions Trophy. Every country except India has come to Pakistan in recent years and has been perfectly satisfied with the security arrangements. India's excuse that the security situation in Pakistan is bad holds no weight in present day, especially after first-world, Western countries like Australia, New Zealand and England have made multiple multi-format tours to Pakistan since international cricket returned to the country.
Oh bhai why you forget that in pakistan a team was directly attacked by terrorists

Has any other nation provided presidential level security to a cricket team ? No , because where is no direct threat to any team player's.

Pakistan reputation is well known facts for international community when comes to security .
 
That is rubbish. As if the threat is more for citizens of western countries. The hatred for Indians is the highest in Pakistan.
To be very honest, most people here don't give a damn about India. We have far bigger problems to worry about. It is only in India that elections are won by demonising Pakistan.
 
I don’t understand why there’s a discussion here. India have made their position clear.

The rights or wrongs of it can be argued elsewhere.

The official position is: The Indian Government have refused the Indian team to travel to Pakistan.

If there is time to replace India with SL or whoever is next in line, great let’s do that.

If not, all of India’s matches are forfeited.

Tournament goes ahead in Pakistan as planned.

It’s simple really. What’s the problem?
 
Oh bhai why you forget that in pakistan a team was directly attacked by terrorists

Has any other nation provided presidential level security to a cricket team ? No , because where is no direct threat to any team player's.

Pakistan reputation is well known facts for international community when comes to security .
That was 15 years ago. Over the years, Pakistan has done alot to improve the security situation and root out terrorism that had boiled into this country as a result of the US invasion of Afghanistan. Now the security situation here is very good, as evident by the various tours of every international team except India.
 
Stop it with this defeatist lack of self esteem based thinking. Its time to take a stand. If it means the end of Pak cricket then so be it. But principles and honour should come first.
I have seen this statement in various forms from several posters on this forum. But nothing even remote to this has been put in action by the PCB and people running it. And they are the people that matter in such circumstances.
 
Oh bhai why you forget that in pakistan a team was directly attacked by terrorists

Has any other nation provided presidential level security to a cricket team ? No , because where is no direct threat to any team player's.

Pakistan reputation is well known facts for international community when comes to security .
the team that was attacked has come back several times after that. so this argument holds no weight
 
BCCI has said it won't travel to Pakistan. If a board doesn't participate in the tournament their share of ICC revenues will be forfeited. So BCCI will lose its proportionate share of CT 2025.

That's the monetary punishment.

There is nothing else there. BCCI has no agreement with PCB. So PCB has no grounds to sue.

The spirit of the cricket award goes to..
 
Former India opener Aakash Chopra said on his YouTube channel:

"Yes, this is an ICC event. Broadcasters have committed money for the event. But there is always a rider that if ICC cannot ensure India's participation, then the broadcasters will not invest or there will be a financial re-evaluation. If India does not participate, the money falls drastically."

"The last PCB board chief during the 2023 ODI World Cup said 'dushman mulk ja rahe hum' (we are going into the enemy's territory). In the future, if Pakistan decides not to play against India, there will be repercussions. India will also face repercussions if they do not visit Pakistan, but the sanctions will be financial, and how can the ICC stop India's money going to India? Pakistan do not have that kind of leverage. This is the hard reality. I feel it is absolutely certain that there will be no Champions Trophy without India. Every team, including Pakistan, understands this."
 
Have you even think the implementation of boycotting the ICC Event by PCB?
It’s not PCB fault here ICC allocated them as hosts and they did everything to put in place . PCB has to take the bold step . You can’t just always put up with this drama of hybrid model . It’s all vote bank politics in India . Bjp doesn’t want to show that they allowed team to play in Pakistan . Unless Pakistan takes some strong step this crap will keep on going .
 
That was 15 years ago. Over the years, Pakistan has done alot to improve the security situation and root out terrorism that had boiled into this country as a result of the US invasion of Afghanistan. Now the security situation here is very good, as evident by the various tours of every international team except India.
Security situation may have improve from earlier but still blast is happening frequently and blast on a railway station is not a Joke .

There is reason pakistan provide presidential level security to every team because there is always chance of attacks compared to other countries.

Pakistan fans may think that presidental level security is good things but actually its not.

To be very honest, most people here don't give a damn about India. We have far bigger problems to worry about. It is only in India that elections are won by demonising Pakistan.
Another wrong take .

Have you noticed how many countries delegation were visited in pakistan for SCO submit .

But guess what , only Indian foreign minister was centre of attraction for media etc. They even update on his morning walks etc lol

Every youtubers ( No matters which fields they are belong to ) from Pakistan are talking about india more than Pakistan
 
To create global awareness about how India uses their power in cricket to blackball Pakistan. Once you get average people like ex-cricketers, global news and media outlets talking, awareness about the issue grows and more people (who aren't necessarily even associated with cricket) start taking notice. Of course, none of this is likely to make any difference to India's stance. But it is atleast a way to challenge the status-quo. There's a chance that it will put pressure on India and cause damage their international image, which has known to be a sticking point for this current government. On top of that, you hurt the ICC a bit as well by cutting off their revenue for India-Pakistan matches. Again, I'm just spit balling here and talking in hypotheticals. It's very likely that none of this will make any difference. But it is certainly better than doing nothing and accepting the current status-quo.

Personally, I don't see any issue in Pakistan missing an ICC tournament or two on Indian soil. It's not like our fans or journalists will be given visas anyway. We could all certainly do without our cricketers getting abused by xenophobic Indian fans. The only tournaments in which this could be an issue will be the upcoming Champions Trophy (if Pakistan chooses to boycott) and the 2029 Champions Trophy which will be held entirely in India. In 2026, the T20 World Cup hosting rights are shared between India and Sri Lanka. And in 2031, the World Cup hosting rights are shared between India and Bangladesh. If Pakistan get to the final (which will for sure be in India), then we'll cross that bridge when come to it.

No one is going to bat an eyelid on what Pakistan has to say about India. That's something that should have been clear to Pakistanis. No one cares. Imran Khan learnt it after 2019. The status quo will remain except that PCB will lose millions of dollars.

The absence of Pakistan from any ICC event in India will not make much monetary difference. BCCI and Indian sponsors will cover it.

So unless PCBs end game is some posturing with little gain, the current reaction will achieve nothing.

Only if PCB can hold the CT in Pakistan, sans India and not let ICC and its members suffer losses, will it mean something.
 
In 1996, West Indies and Australia refused to tour Sri Lanka for the World Cup. In 2003, New Zealand didn’t play in Kenya, and England refused to play in Zimbabwe. The ICC didn’t consider a hybrid model nor change the venue for teams reluctant to tour a country. So, why should there be a hybrid model this time? The ICC shouldn't let its tournament be hijacked by politics.

-From a journalist (Twitter)
 
It’s not PCB fault here ICC allocated them as hosts and they did everything to put in place . PCB has to take the bold step . You can’t just always put up with this drama of hybrid model . It’s all vote bank politics in India . Bjp doesn’t want to show that they allowed team to play in Pakistan . Unless Pakistan takes some strong step this crap will keep on going .

Unless PCB is thinking of hosting CT without India and compensating the ICC rest nothing makes a difference.
 
In 1996, West Indies and Australia refused to tour Sri Lanka for the World Cup. In 2003, New Zealand didn’t play in Kenya, and England refused to play in Zimbabwe. The ICC didn’t consider a hybrid model nor change the venue for teams reluctant to tour a country. So, why should there be a hybrid model this time? The ICC shouldn't let its tournament be hijacked by politics.

Stupid comparison. None of those teams missed the entire tournament.
 
It’s not PCB fault here ICC allocated them as hosts and they did everything to put in place . PCB has to take the bold step . You can’t just always put up with this drama of hybrid model . It’s all vote bank politics in India . Bjp doesn’t want to show that they allowed team to play in Pakistan . Unless Pakistan takes some strong step this crap will keep on going .
Its not PCB fault that BCCI is not sending the team but Pakistan boycott of champion trophy is own faults because they have signed the agreement with ICC.

You are not talking about legal points but emotionally .this is the reason why PCB were lost legal case against BCCI
 
Yep dumb move by PCB instead invite Sri Lanka in place of India
Its not PCB fault that BCCI is not sending the team but Pakistan boycott of champion trophy is own faults because they have signed the agreement with ICC.

You are not talking about legal points but emotionally .this is the reason why PCB were lost legal case against BCCI
 
So money >>>> Indian soldiers for you guys. It was funny how you guys had a mini opening ceremony last year at the Ind V Pak game and now when its Pak turn to host, we are the terrorist nation again.

Not giving pakistanis any advantage is the goal.

How's giving pakistanis 2 free points helpful?
 
I have been saying this for months. But PCB did not lift a finger. All this nonsense could have been avoided had they done that. But nope. They chose to be reactive than proactive.

How will inviting sri Lanka change the situation?
 
Not giving pakistanis any advantage is the goal.

How's giving pakistanis 2 free points helpful?
The lives of Indian soldiers should be more important than the two points or is that not the case? That is usually how it works - you are taking a stand on an issue.
 
The lives of Indian soldiers should be more important than the two points or is that not the case? That is usually how it works - you are taking a stand on an issue.
This is not how things works in professional set-up . The snake gets killed without the stick breaking - This is India approach

this approach already send a warning to PCB and Pakistan government to act against non state actors who are leaving peaceful life in pakistan
 
The lives of Indian soldiers should be more important than the two points or is that not the case? That is usually how it works - you are taking a stand on an issue.
Sorry but the deaths of soldiers are the most useless deaths in this world. You die because of war and then the final solution is to have a agreement and end the war for god sake. See history, all wars are ended with an agreement. So what is the use of losing a life then?
 
Sorry but the deaths of soldiers are the most useless deaths in this world. You die because of war and then the final solution is to have a agreement and end the war for god sake. See history, all wars are ended with an agreement. So what is the use of losing a life then?
There is thing called sacrifice for the country .this is why soldiers should treated respectfully no matter which country's they are belong to .
 
Security situation may have improve from earlier but still blast is happening frequently and blast on a railway station is not a Joke .

There is reason pakistan provide presidential level security to every team because there is always chance of attacks compared to other countries.

Pakistan fans may think that presidental level security is good things but actually its not.


Another wrong take .

Have you noticed how many countries delegation were visited in pakistan for SCO submit .

But guess what , only Indian foreign minister was centre of attraction for media etc. They even update on his morning walks etc lol

Every youtubers ( No matters which fields they are belong to ) from Pakistan are talking about india more than Pakistan
If you want to act like a typical chest-thumping Indian nationalist then by all means feel free to do so. If you want to debate this topic like a grown adult then stick to the points of the topic instead of going off-topic.

The presidential level security that Pakistan provides teams is more of a deterrent than anything else. Because such an unfortunate and high-profile incident happened in Pakistan in 2009, Pakistan feel the need to provide teams with fool-proof security. More than anything it is a way to assuage their fears and put them at rest that nothing will happen. On the whole there is no need for providing that level of security situation because the situation in Pakistan is fairly normal/
 
The lives of Indian soldiers should be more important than the two points or is that not the case? That is usually how it works - you are taking a stand on an issue.

So we should give Pakistan 2 points and help them. Is that how we take a stand? By helping?
 
To be very honest, most people here don't give a damn about India. We have far bigger problems to worry about. It is only in India that elections are won by demonising Pakistan.
Most pakistanis don't give a damn about sri lankans even, yet they got attacked.
 
Its sheer hypocrisy from the Indian side and its so absurd the some stupid Indians should take a good hard look at themselves. If they are so morally staunch, then they should forfeit all matches against Pakistan in WCs, ICC tournaments etc.

Its laughable they only stoop to not going to Pakistan where they would be received warmly.
 
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So we should give Pakistan 2 points and help them. Is that how we take a stand? By helping?
No, you are showing the world that nothing is greater than the lives of your soldiers especially a Cricket game. By playing ICC events, or allowing other teams to play in Pak like the MMA group that recently came, it shows you guys are not really taking a stand so the message isn't really there..
 
No, you are showing the world that nothing is greater than the lives of your soldiers especially a Cricket game. By playing ICC events, or allowing other teams to play in Pak like the MMA group that recently came, it shows you guys are not really taking a stand so the message isn't really there..

We are not helping pakistan in anyway. That matters.
 
Its sheer hypocrisy from the Indian side and its so absurd the stupid Indians should take a good hard look at themselves. If they are so morally staunch, then they should forfeit all matches against Pakistan in WCs, ICC tournaments etc.

Its laughable they only stoop to not going to Pakistan where they would be received warmly.

Why will India act as per your wish?
 
Not even once is PCB saying we will compensate ICC, come and play without India.
 
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