The Russian invasion of Ukraine

[Reddy]

29th January Briefing, Russian Ministry of defence:

️Russian forces destroy 2 US-supplied M777 howitzers, 2 US-supplied Paladin self-propelled howitzers and US-supplied radar station in Donetsk Republic,

️2 US-supplied radar stations and Ukrainian army ammo dump destroyed in Kherson region,

️Up to 200 Ukrainian soldiers killed over past 24 hours in Donetsk Republic as Russian forces continue offensives in region.

https://eng.mil.ru/en/special_operation/news/more.htm?id=12452914@egNews

 

[daytrader]

Zelenskiy calls for faster weapons supplies; fighting in Donetsk ‘very tough’

Volodymyr Zelenskiy has called on Ukraine’s allies to speed up the supply of new weaponry to help his forces overcome Russia’s invasion.

The Ukrainian president said time should be used as a weapon in his Sunday night address.

"The speed of supply has been and will be one of the key factors in this war. Russia hopes to drag out the war, to exhaust our forces. So we have to make time our weapon."

"We must speed up the events, speed up the supply and opening of new necessary weaponry options for Ukraine.”

Zelenskiy also noted the “significant defence results” in military aid support in the past week from the United States, Germany, Poland, Canada, Belgium, Norway and Italy.

“We have to make the next week no less powerful for our defence,” he added.

Addressing the situation on the battlefield, Zelenskiy described the situation as “very tough”.

“Bakhmut, Vuhledar and other areas in the Donetsk region are under constant Russian attacks. There are constant attempts to break through our defence,” he said.

“The enemy … maintains a high intensity of attacks.”

The Guardian

 

[Reddy]

29th January Briefing, Russian Ministry of defence:

️Russian forces continue offensive in Donetsk and Zaporozhye regions, successfully gaining more strategic positions,

️Ukrainian tank unit ELIMINATED in Ugledar, Donetsk region

️More than 110 Ukrainian soldiers ELIMINATED in Donetsk.

️ More than 35 Ukrainian soldiers ELIMINATED in Kupyansk, Kharkov region, East Ukraine.

️ Russian air defence facilities have shot down one Mi-8 helicopter of Ukrainian Air Force near Novodarovka (Zaporozhye region).

https://eng.mil.ru/en/special_operation/news/more.htm?id=12452981@egNews

 

[KingKhanWC]

In fact Putin “won” the 2018 “election” by 78%, putting opposition candidates under house arrest, and enjoying the vote of every single Chechen somehow voting for him.

We still have free and fair elections UK, though Johnson attempted to hamstring the Electoral Commission. If that happened I would say UK was a failed state. You don’t see the PM put the LOTO under house arrest. Yet.

No idea what your Mexico point means. Ukraine never invaded Russia. At worst, they lashed out at the Putin-backed separatists in Donbas.

(Actually I would say the worst killer states were Conquistador Spain, who all but eradicated the population of South America, Soviet Russia who murdered more Soviet people than Hitler, and Red China who starved to death 25 million Chinese in a few years. UK presided over several famines in the Subcontinent, Iran and Ireland, but not as fast as Russia and China.)

I’ve already explained why NATO states will not call for peace, until Russia leaves Donbas and Crimea.

Putin won in 2000 by 53%, since he has shown to his poeple he is a great leader which is why they voted him in larger numbers. All other polls suggest he has this type of popularity unless they are western polls.

In UK people can vote but there is no such thing as free and fair. The powers that be ensure who is in charge and if they are against them, they will no suceed such as the attacks on Corbyn. UK has had the last two PM's who were never voted in. Rich donors give money to politicians to do their bidding, this is not democracy.

Simple. IF Russia armed, helped and supported Mexico with Russian special forces , America would go to war with Mexico and do much worse than Russia.

NATO doesnt want peace. Russia was willing to leave all regiions if Ukraine could guarantee those regiions would have some sort of atomony but Nato leaders stopped the peace talks last April. NATO want to use Ukraine to bleed Russia, even children realise this now.

 

[KingKhanWC]

You think everything is due to Zionism. This isn’t the Middle East.

I think Putin is one of these dictators who uses religion in a populist way - the opium of the masses, to quote Lenin. Like Mussolini. Like Trump holding up that big Bible.

If Putin was for his people, he wouldn’t have robbed them blind of their nationalised oil. He’s richer than any American oil man ever was.

Robert sadly you dont understand what Zionism is.

WW1 - Balfrour decleration.
WW2 - State of Israel came into existance.
WW3 - ?

Most Zionists are Chrisitans living in the US with powerful positions. It is those who wanted a proxy war with Ukraine. Israel is up against Russia in Syria and would love for the RUssian nation to crumble. While Ukraine is in the news, the terrorist Zionist entity of Israel is now attacking Iran. Their new far right extemists Jewish government is killing more and more as we speak. Why dont Nato and your fellow Brits change their flags in their support?

You're reading too much British history books. Putin hid and prayed while growing up in Communist nation, he is not a communist and is a Christian , the real Christians.

How has he robbed them? lol Russians are living better lives than they EVER HAVE lived. Meanwhile in Europe its the opposite.

 

[Robert]

Robert sadly you dont understand what Zionism is.

WW1 - Balfrour decleration.
WW2 - State of Israel came into existance.
WW3 - ?

Most Zionists are Chrisitans living in the US with powerful positions. It is those who wanted a proxy war with Ukraine. Israel is up against Russia in Syria and would love for the RUssian nation to crumble. While Ukraine is in the news, the terrorist Zionist entity of Israel is now attacking Iran. Their new far right extemists Jewish government is killing more and more as we speak. Why dont Nato and your fellow Brits change their flags in their support?

You're reading too much British history books. Putin hid and prayed while growing up in Communist nation, he is not a communist and is a Christian , the real Christians.

How has he robbed them? lol Russians are living better lives than they EVER HAVE lived. Meanwhile in Europe its the opposite.

Wasn’t Zionists who invaded Crimea and Donbas. Was Putin.

He isn’t a Christian. Might call himself one. Nobody can be a Christian who murdered that many people.

Putin didn’t hide. He was a KGB agent for 19 years, rising to the rank of Lt-Colonel, before starting a career in politics after the Wall fell.

How did a former KGB agent became the richest man in the world? By running a protection racket among the oligarchs who seized control of the Soviet utilities such as oil, gas, power, water, railways. Murdered one, and made all the rest give him half their wealth. Read Bill Browder on this.

 

[Technics 1210]

It is Zionists pulling NATO strings by goading Russia long before this war. Forcing Russia to annex Crimea. Most of US Congress are Zionists, and who approves the US and its participation in war and the budget/military equipment for a war? Yup you guessed it folks, US congress.

Zionists are masters of the art of deception, or better known as false flag operations.

These same Zionists wouldn't allow a missile in Syria or Iran, but hey, lets park weapons on the Russian border with NATO members.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Wasn’t Zionists who invaded Crimea and Donbas. Was Putin.

He isn’t a Christian. Might call himself one. Nobody can be a Christian who murdered that many people.

Putin didn’t hide. He was a KGB agent for 19 years, rising to the rank of Lt-Colonel, before starting a career in politics after the Wall fell.

How did a former KGB agent became the richest man in the world? By running a protection racket among the oligarchs who seized control of the Soviet utilities such as oil, gas, power, water, railways. Murdered one, and made all the rest give him half their wealth. Read Bill Browder on this.

Please read what I wrote carefully.

Putin hid while PRAYING.

Zionists are the ones who were behind the Maidan coup of 2014, installing Nazis to murder people, hold the government hostage and then installing a puppet who murdered over 14,000 people in the East. Puting is liberating them and I fully support him, hopefuly he will break Nato like never before but the balance of power on the planet has changed and will continue to change. Please watch a few more James Bond movies while the west is superiour, the time is running out. The world has had enough of western terrorism and rightly is standing up to it. Western outpost of Israel will soon have its time too.

Putin hardly sleeps let alone parades around on Yachts or in mansions, he isnt as wealthy as some in the deluded west claim. He is a man who belives in God and is changing history for the better.

 

[Technics 1210]

Please read what I wrote carefully.

Putin hid while PRAYING.

Zionists are the ones who were behind the Maidan coup of 2014, installing Nazis to murder people, hold the government hostage and then installing a puppet who murdered over 14,000 people in the East. Puting is liberating them and I fully support him, hopefuly he will break Nato like never before but the balance of power on the planet has changed and will continue to change. Please watch a few more James Bond movies while the west is superiour, the time is running out. The world has had enough of western terrorism and rightly is standing up to it. Western outpost of Israel will soon have its time too.

Putin hardly sleeps let alone parades around on Yachts or in mansions, he isnt as wealthy as some in the deluded west claim. He is a man who belives in God and is changing history for the better.

Why do you think the Zionist controlled media in the West turned anti-Trump in 2020 and robbed him off a win? Because Trump was seeking peace with Putin, and peace would've torpedoed the Zionist agenda!

 

[KingKhanWC]

It is Zionists pulling NATO strings by goading Russia long before this war. Forcing Russia to annex Crimea. Most of US Congress are Zionists, and who approves the US and its participation in war and the budget/military equipment for a war? Yup you guessed it folks, US congress.

Zionists are masters of the art of deception, or better known as false flag operations.

These same Zionists wouldn't allow a missile in Syria or Iran, but hey, lets park weapons on the Russian border with NATO members.

Putin knows this.

Zionists were behind the The Bolshevik 'revolution' which aimed to take out the Christian Orthodox Russians and replace them with a godless communist ruler(s). Muslims and Christians are the biggest threat to Zionism but only the Orthodox not the Catholics or these liberal so called Christians.

Its no coincidence Russia has banned gay marriage, is agains trans/lgbt etc while the West are puhsing this down peoples throats(no pun intented).

Iran/Russia/Syria/China/Arabs/Pakistanis/Africans/South Americans all are anti west and realise the game here, not to mention they know first hand how much a terrorist the Zionist/US run nation is.

 

[KingKhanWC]

^ You are correct. Trump is an annoyance, he did some of their work but isnt such a lapdog he will take them to a huge war.

I really feel Trump might be targetted for assasination in the next 18 months.

 

[JaDed]

NG prices have crashed, Russia needs to do a lot more now to finance this war.
This also means West can prop up movements everywhere like in South Asia and China.

 

[KingKhanWC]

NG prices have crashed, Russia needs to do a lot more now to finance this war.
This also means West can prop up movements everywhere like in South Asia and China.

Only in Jan due to mild weather but are expected to rise again.

Despite sanctions Russia has earned over £150 billion in sales and this will continue regardless of flucuations.

 

[Technics 1210]

Only in Jan due to mild weather but are expected to rise again.

Despite sanctions Russia has earned over £150 billion in sales and this will continue regardless of flucuations.

Russia is selling more oil to China and India to make up for the shortful, plus a host of other non-Western countries. Plus Russia can pile on the debt to fund this war, just like Amreeka and UK have in the past, and are currently doing so, by donating BILLIONs to Ukraine while increasing government deficit and debt!

Russia is quids in; its citizens will not be rationing energy unlike citizens living in the West!

 

[JaDed]

Only in Jan due to mild weather but are expected to rise again.

Despite sanctions Russia has earned over £150 billion in sales and this will continue regardless of flucuations.

Not really unless something geopolitical happens, it has crashed to 2021 levels almost below that.

The sales might have helped for waging the war but it won’t for continuation.

But again I would accept if I’m wrong but that’s how it stands currently.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Russia is selling more oil to China and India to make up for the shortful, plus a host of other non-Western countries. Plus Russia can pile on the debt to fund this war, just like Amreeka and UK have in the past, and are currently doing so, by donating BILLIONs to Ukraine while increasing government deficit and debt!

Russia is quids in; its citizens will not be rationing energy unlike citizens living in the West!

Not really unless something geopolitical happens, it has crashed to 2021 levels almost below that.

The sales might have helped for waging the war but it won’t for continuation.

But again I would accept if I’m wrong but that’s how it stands currently.

Natural recoures are a goldmine.

China is the key for Russia. China's inflation is only 2%! Thats incredible, meaning they will be the first to explode in growth again esp as their savings rate is 45%! China will need huge supplies of NG, oil, cooper etc. They will try to start a conflict with Taiwain before this happens but it will fail imo.

 

[Technics 1210]

Natural recoures are a goldmine.

China is the key for Russia. China's inflation is only 2%! Thats incredible, meaning they will be the first to explode in growth again esp as their savings rate is 45%! China will need huge supplies of NG, oil, cooper etc. They will try to start a conflict with Taiwain before this happens but it will fail imo.

These sort of facts are lost on NATO/Liberal apologists. They never see the bigger picture beyond the bold ZMSM headlines.

 

[MenInG]

US President Joe Biden has ruled out sending F-16 fighter jets to Ukraine, despite renewed calls from Ukrainian officials for air support.

Asked by a reporter on Monday if the US would be providing the planes, Mr Biden replied simply "no".

His comment comes a day after Germany's leader also ruled out sending fighter jets.

Ukraine has said it needs the jets to take control of its airspace in its ongoing war with Russia.

F-16 Fighting Falcons are widely considered one of the world's most reliable fighter jets and are used by other countries, such as Belgium and Pakistan.

They would be a significant upgrade on the Soviet-era fighting jets Ukraine is currently using, which were made before the country declared independence from the USSR more than 30 years ago.

 

[Robert]

Please read what I wrote carefully.

Putin hid while PRAYING.

Zionists are the ones who were behind the Maidan coup of 2014, installing Nazis to murder people, hold the government hostage and then installing a puppet who murdered over 14,000 people in the East. Puting is liberating them and I fully support him, hopefuly he will break Nato like never before but the balance of power on the planet has changed and will continue to change. Please watch a few more James Bond movies while the west is superiour, the time is running out. The world has had enough of western terrorism and rightly is standing up to it. Western outpost of Israel will soon have its time too.

Putin hardly sleeps let alone parades around on Yachts or in mansions, he isnt as wealthy as some in the deluded west claim. He is a man who belives in God and is changing history for the better.

I do read your posts carefully. I’m sorry, because I try to find common ground with people, but I don’t believe one word of this.

This is digital thinking on your part. You put ideas into two boxes - one labelled good and the other labelled evil - and as you think the West is evil and Putin opposes the West, he must go in the good box because there is nowhere else to put him.

I’m not a digital thinker. I’m a pluralist (things can be more than one thing at a time) and a relativist (nobody is good or evil, people all do good stuff and bad stuff, and all we can do is try to do less bad stuff and more good stuff. Some people do a lot of good stuff like Martin Luther King. Some people do a lot of bad stuff like Putin.)

Once again you deny agency to the people of Ukraine. They remember being under the Russian yoke. When their leader Yukoshenko leaned to Moscow against their will, they demonstrated that they wanted Western freedom and prosperity in their Maidan.

Putin can’t “break” NATO. He is clearly unable to subdue one relatively poor nation, so the well-equipped and trained NATO military would flatten his military very quickly. Russia has half the GDP of UK, or of France, or of Germany. All they have going for them is raw materials and these will run out one day, hence the land grab into Ukraine. No different to the Bush-Rumsfeld-Cheney-Halliburton oil grab of Iraq. They said they were liberators too.

How could Putin “hide” when he was a senior KGB agent in the Soviet regime, and then went into politics? Hide from whom?

His attempt at forcible regime change in Kyiv failed due to the incompetence of his military (remember that massive armoured column?) and now he is seeking to create a buffer zone, using the actual Nazis of the mercenary Wagner Group. So this deNazification rhetoric is nonsense. You can’t remove Nazis by adding more Nazis in. You just get more Nazis.

He owns a $100M superyacht by the way. It was berthed in Hamburg but abruptly left before the Germans seized it.

https://www.businessinsider.com/put...amid-sanction-threats-report-2022-2?r=US&IR=T

How do you think he afforded that on a Lt-Col’s pension?

You also have to consider some of the fans he has in the West. Actual fascists. People who admire only strength and the will to impose authoritarianism. They despise kindness and social justice. Avoid these people.

 

[daytrader]

Western allies at odds over jets for Ukraine

• Western allies are divided over Ukraine’s push for fourth-generation fighter jets, after relenting over providing battle tanks to counter the ongoing Russian invasion.
• France and Poland appear willing to entertain Kyiv’s request, while the US has dismissed the possibility of providing F-16s.
• The debate comes as defence minister Oleksiy Reznikov is expected in Paris to meet President Emmanuel Macron on Tuesday.
• Ukrainian forces are sending reinforcements to Bakhmut, Maryinka and Vuhledar, as Russian forces make advances west of Donetsk city.

Al-Jazeera

 

[Robert]

[MENTION=43583]KingKhanWC[/MENTION],

The Patriarch of Constantinople - the leading Orthodox cleric on the planet - has condemned Putin’s invasion of Ukraine as “unholy and diabolical”.

https://cne.news/artikel/1820-patriarch-bartholomew-calls-putins-war-unholy-and-diabolical

The Patriarch is considering setting up a Ukrainian Orthodox church independent of the Patriarch of Moscow.

His Holiness had better not stand by any high windows…..

 

[SalimBhai]

How do you know he “hid” and prayed???

 

[Technics 1210]

Apart from the fact there is no empirical evidence that Putin is one of the richest politicians in the world, other than liberals throwing a hissy fit and making false claims, let us spare a thought on the wealth of US politicians such as Congress, Senators, VPs, and Presidents, who may I remind everyone, collectively earned BILLIONS through decades of war, and in particular contracts in Iraq (look up Halliburton).

The NATO apologists living in the UK who consider the US to be their friends and saviour, will happily turn a blind eye to the insane amount of money earned by Western politicians!

This level of racism and discrimination must be exposed! Radical liberals have no problem with the actions of the Western Christian folk, but Christians such as Putin, are condemned to an eternity of hell fire because he saved his people.

Liberals lied about Putin's cancer, lied about Russian missiles, lied about Putin's wealth, suppressed free speech - then they wonder why the world is standing up against their hippy tree hugging nonsense.

 

[bones]

I’ve given up trying to explain Zionism and money lending to people. They are either not smart enough to understand or they are happy to look the other way so long as they are surviving.

People like Robert will never bother to understand the Balfour treaty and the build up to it. They will never ask why it’s always twisted by the MSM.

 

[Reddy]

31st January Briefing, Russian Ministry of defence:

After liberation of Blagodatnoe, Russian-led forces continue successful offensive in Donetsk Republic:

️ More than 150 Ukrainian troops ELIMINATED,

️ 4 armored fighting vehicles, French Caesar self-propelled artillery system, a US-made M-777 artillery system, an MSTA-B howitzer, a tank, and 2 artillery ammunition depots DESTROYED.

️ Russian forces DESTROY 2 Ukrainian Gvozdika self-propelled artillery units and 2 ammunition depots in Kherson region

https://eng.mil.ru/en/special_operation/news/more.htm?id=12453082@egNews

 

[KingKhanWC]

I do read your posts carefully. I’m sorry, because I try to find common ground with people, but I don’t believe one word of this.

This is digital thinking on your part. You put ideas into two boxes - one labelled good and the other labelled evil - and as you think the West is evil and Putin opposes the West, he must go in the good box because there is nowhere else to put him.

I’m not a digital thinker. I’m a pluralist (things can be more than one thing at a time) and a relativist (nobody is good or evil, people all do good stuff and bad stuff, and all we can do is try to do less bad stuff and more good stuff. Some people do a lot of good stuff like Martin Luther King. Some people do a lot of bad stuff like Putin.)

Once again you deny agency to the people of Ukraine. They remember being under the Russian yoke. When their leader Yukoshenko leaned to Moscow against their will, they demonstrated that they wanted Western freedom and prosperity in their Maidan.

Putin can’t “break” NATO. He is clearly unable to subdue one relatively poor nation, so the well-equipped and trained NATO military would flatten his military very quickly. Russia has half the GDP of UK, or of France, or of Germany. All they have going for them is raw materials and these will run out one day, hence the land grab into Ukraine. No different to the Bush-Rumsfeld-Cheney-Halliburton oil grab of Iraq. They said they were liberators too.

How could Putin “hide” when he was a senior KGB agent in the Soviet regime, and then went into politics? Hide from whom?

His attempt at forcible regime change in Kyiv failed due to the incompetence of his military (remember that massive armoured column?) and now he is seeking to create a buffer zone, using the actual Nazis of the mercenary Wagner Group. So this deNazification rhetoric is nonsense. You can’t remove Nazis by adding more Nazis in. You just get more Nazis.

He owns a $100M superyacht by the way. It was berthed in Hamburg but abruptly left before the Germans seized it.

https://www.businessinsider.com/put...amid-sanction-threats-report-2022-2?r=US&IR=T

How do you think he afforded that on a Lt-Col’s pension?

You also have to consider some of the fans he has in the West. Actual fascists. People who admire only strength and the will to impose authoritarianism. They despise kindness and social justice. Avoid these people.

Im not sure what digital thinking is, I prefer to think along the lines of the TRUTH and not in 'us against them' or 'we are the good guys' or 'Putin is a despot' etc as they are simply lies.

The Ukrainian leader was elected, they have to elect another one. It wasnt the majority of Ukrainians who werent happy but the bloodthirsty west.

Putin is waging an economic war on the west, he doesn't need a hammer. Currently Russia, China and others are working on a new global reserve currency, this is what will break western hegemony in the world.

Bush and his terrorist nation are not on the borders of Iraq, they lied and went to loot and murder. Ukraine isnt even close to being anything similar.

Putin hid as a child to pray not when he was KGB.

Azov who were the national guard are almost all in hell with Hitler now. Nazis have been wiped clean pretty much. Zelensky the puppet could be taken out at any time if Putin wanted but he is such a clown it helps Russia as the world can see a cocaine fiend parading at the global globes while Ukrainians are dying.

Putin owns a lot of things but so does Biden who has proven to be corrupt esp in the latest renting his house for so much to his son etc. Many others are corrupt too such as the old witch Pelosi. To suggest Putin is after wealth is schoolboy thinking.

It doesn't matter who supports him or who doesn't, again the TRUTH is important.

 

[KingKhanWC]

[MENTION=43583]KingKhanWC[/MENTION],

The Patriarch of Constantinople - the leading Orthodox cleric on the planet - has condemned Putin’s invasion of Ukraine as “unholy and diabolical”.

https://cne.news/artikel/1820-patriarch-bartholomew-calls-putins-war-unholy-and-diabolical

The Patriarch is considering setting up a Ukrainian Orthodox church independent of the Patriarch of Moscow.

His Holiness had better not stand by any high windows…..

Most Orthodox support him.

Putin praises Russian Orthodox Church for backing troops in Ukraine

https://www.reuters.com/world/europ...istmas-service-by-himself-kremlin-2023-01-06/

On that note most Muslims support him too.

 

[Robert]

I’ve given up trying to explain Zionism and money lending to people. They are either not smart enough to understand or they are happy to look the other way so long as they are surviving.

People like Robert will never bother to understand the Balfour treaty and the build up to it. They will never ask why it’s always twisted by the MSM.

There are no people like me.

There are certainly a lot of clerics in the American MidWest who support Israel and influence a large voting bloc.

But nobody in my political circles ever mentions it. We fight the Tories. The only groups the Zionist narrative has traction with appear to be (some but not all) Muslims and the hard left.

While there is a grain of truth in it, I think it’s mostly paranoid conspiracy nonsense based on centuries of religious hatred.

 

[Technics 1210]

I’ve given up trying to explain Zionism and money lending to people. They are either not smart enough to understand or they are happy to look the other way so long as they are surviving.

People like Robert will never bother to understand the Balfour treaty and the build up to it. They will never ask why it’s always twisted by the MSM.

The reason is obvious; said people do not want to offend the Jews/Isreal. This is why they will never criticise Zionism let alone try to understand the true intentions and fallicies behind Zionism - too afraid to do so. The power and result of systematic brainwashing through the decades.

Thankfully such lunacy is confined within the Western hemisphere; and Putin is about to break the stranglehold.

This Ukraine war has exposed so much. The weakness of NATO, the funding by Zionists, the power and influence of Russia, the demise of the Petrodollar, and ultimately the daylight hypocrisy of Liberals.

 

[SalimBhai]

There are no people like me.

There are certainly a lot of clerics in the American MidWest who support Israel and influence a large voting bloc.

But nobody in my political circles ever mentions it. We fight the Tories. The only groups the Zionist narrative has traction with appear to be (some but not all) Muslims and the hard left.

While there is a grain of truth in it, I think it’s mostly paranoid conspiracy nonsense based on centuries of religious hatred.

Very well put. 100 agreed

 

[Robert]

Im not sure what digital thinking is, I prefer to think along the lines of the TRUTH and not in 'us against them' or 'we are the good guys' or 'Putin is a despot' etc as they are simply lies.

I explained it. One-zero thinking. It means you sort ideas into one of only two categories.

To you the West is evil. The opposite of evil is good. So anyone who opposes the evil West can only be good. Never mind that he is a mass-murderer too.

 

[KingKhanWC]

I explained it. One-zero thinking. It means you sort ideas into one of only two categories.

To you the West is evil. The opposite of evil is good. So anyone who opposes the evil West can only be good. Never mind that he is a mass-murderer too.

Killing a million people in Iraq, destroying Syria, Libya ,Afghanistan, South America, Africa and many other nations inc the Bikini islands are a sign of evil.

I think we will never agree but Im happy to know I can see evil.

Lets stick to the current events.

Do you think Russia is losing like many of the western supporters or is Ukraine losing?

 

[KingKhanWC]

The reason is obvious; said people do not want to offend the Jews/Isreal. This is why they will never criticise Zionism let alone try to understand the true intentions and fallicies behind Zionism - too afraid to do so. The power and result of systematic brainwashing through the decades.

Thankfully such lunacy is confined within the Western hemisphere; and Putin is about to break the stranglehold.

This Ukraine war has exposed so much. The weakness of NATO, the funding by Zionists, the power and influence of Russia, the demise of the Petrodollar, and ultimately the daylight hypocrisy of Liberals.

Sadly most of the people living in the west are nothing more than sheep, without the ability to think for themselves. Some know the truth but enjoy others suffering and some are immigrants who feel obliged to defend their new homes even if they are met with racism due to their life long dodgy accents.

Zionism is evil and seen as this by the rest of the world. Truth can never be defeated which is why any critiism of the evil state of Israel or their backers is silenced with claims of racism. lol. Its so funny how much people see themselves as having a slave mind.

 

[daytrader]

US readying new $2bn Ukraine weapons package: Report
Military aid will include longer-range weapons that could help Ukraine disrupt activity behind Russian lines

The United States is readying more than $2bn worth of military aid for Ukraine that is expected to include longer-range rockets for the first time as well as other munitions and weapons, according to the Reuters news agency, citing two US officials briefed on the plan.

The aid is expected to be announced as soon as this week, the officials said on Wednesday. It is also expected to include support equipment for Patriot air defence systems, precision-guided munitions and Javelin anti-tank weapons, they added.

One of the officials said a portion of the package, expected to be $1.725bn, would come from a fund known as the Ukraine Security Assistance Initiative (USAI), which allows President Joe Biden’s administration to get weapons from industry rather than from US weapons stocks.

The USAI funds would go towards the purchase of a new weapon, the Ground Launched Small Diameter Bomb (GLSDB), which has a range of 150km (94 miles). The US has rebuffed Ukraine’s requests for the 300-km (185-mile) range ATACMS missile.

...
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/2/1/us-readying-new-2-billion-ukraine-weapons-package-report

 

[Robert]

Killing a million people in Iraq, destroying Syria, Libya ,Afghanistan, South America, Africa and many other nations inc the Bikini islands are a sign of evil.

I think we will never agree but Im happy to know I can see evil.

Lets stick to the current events.

Do you think Russia is losing like many of the western supporters or is Ukraine losing?

Yes, those things were evil. Killing the Chechen and Ukrainian civilians is *also* evil.

As for one side winning or losing, I don’t think there is any clear winner here, it depends what his objectives are. If he wants regime change in Kyiv, he has lost. If he wants an occupied buffer zone in Donbas, like Israel in the Golan Heights, he has won.

But Ukraine will not accept that loss of territory and will keep killing Russians. He’s in the same position that Brezhnev and his successors were in Afghanistan. Eventually he or a successor will have to withdraw. And again, all these Russian deaths will have been for nothing.

 

[MenInG]

Lets stick to the war for now - leave the economy stuff for other threads

 

[bones]

The Russians are slowly deploying more and more of the mobilised forces. It's still not enough to take kiev but should be enough to take Kharkiv and possibly Dnipro.

 

[MenInG]

Vladimir Putin has compared Russia's invasion of Ukraine to the fight against Nazi Germany, in a speech to mark the 80th anniversary of the conclusion of the Battle of Stalingrad.

Citing Germany's decision to send Leopard tanks to Ukraine, he claimed history was repeating itself.

"It's unbelievable but true," he said. "We are again being threatened by German Leopard tanks."

Germany is one of many countries helping Ukraine defend its territory.

Russia launched its bloody, full-scale invasion almost one year ago, prompting Western countries to send weapons and aid to the government in Kyiv.

Speaking in Volgograd - the modern name for Stalingrad - Mr Putin hinted that he could seek to move beyond conventional weapons.

"Those who hope to defeat Russia on the battlefield do not understand, it seems, that a modern war with Russia will be very different for them," the 70-year-old leader said.

"We are not sending our tanks to their borders, but we have the means to respond. It won't be limited to the use of armoured hardware. Everyone must understand this."

Kremlin spokesperson Dmitry Peskov declined to elaborate on Mr Putin's comments, but did tell reporters that "as new weapons are delivered by the collective West, Russia will make greater use of its potential to respond".

Mr Putin was in Volgograd to mark the anniversary of the end of the Battle of Stalingrad, the World War Two conflict which saw Russia capture nearly 91,000 German troops and turn the tide of the war.

Over a million people perished in the battle - the bloodiest of World War Two.

Throughout the war in Ukraine, Mr Putin has falsely sought to present Russia's invasion as a battle against nationalists and Nazis - who he claims are leading the Kyiv government.

And he returned to the theme throughout his speech.

"Now, unfortunately, we see that the ideology of Nazism, already in its modern guise, in its modern manifestation, again creates direct threats to the security of our country," he said.

"We are once again forced to repulse the aggression of the collective West."

 

[Reddy]

Our assault units have completely taken control of Sacco and Vanzetti, Donetsk Republic - Wagner Chief Prigozhin

 

[Reddy]

2nd February Briefing, Russian Ministry of defence:

️ Russian-led forces ELIMINATE more than 100 Ukrainian soldiers in Krasny Liman, Donetsk Republic

️ 2 Ukrainian brigades DESTROYED with the support of Russian aviation, rocket launchers, and artillery in Donetsk Republic , more than 50 soldiers KILLED.

️Russian forces destroy 2 Ukrainian military radars in Zaporozhye region


More than 65 Ukrainian troops ELIMINATED in Zaporozhye, 6 armored combat vehicles destroyed.

2 Ukrainian ammunition depots destroyed in Kherson region

Russian forces DESTROY 2 US-made HIMARS multiple launch rocket systems, M-270 MLRS launchers, and 3 Ukrainian missile and artillery weapons depots in Zaporozhye and Donetsk Republic

Russian Air defense systems shot down 4 missiles from US-made HIMARS multiple rocket launchers and 5 Ukrainian drones.

https://eng.mil.ru/en/special_operation/news/more.htm?id=12453322@egNews

 

[the Great Khan]

The Russians are slowly deploying more and more of the mobilised forces. It's still not enough to take kiev but should be enough to take Kharkiv and possibly Dnipro.

They have around 500k troops now and have practically rebuilt their forces to fight NATO.

I have read they will be producing about 40 t90m's per month.

I also read that the abrams for every 1 hour of usage requires 3 hours of maintenance. Thus requires spare parts logistics and personnel..the Ukrainians have none of these..even if they get the German tanks how will they maintain them? The Russians control the skies pretty much..

Zelensky should have made peace when he took kherson. It was the ideal time..he would have come out a hero..but now we will soon see the MSM reduce Ukraine to the back pages..this thread will go quiet and after a year everyone will ask..oh what happened to ukraine..didn't Russia lose?

 

[90MPH]

Yes, those things were evil. Killing the Chechen and Ukrainian civilians is *also* evil.

As for one side winning or losing, I don’t think there is any clear winner here, it depends what his objectives are. If he wants regime change in Kyiv, he has lost. If he wants an occupied buffer zone in Donbas, like Israel in the Golan Heights, he has won.

But Ukraine will not accept that loss of territory and will keep killing Russians. He’s in the same position that Brezhnev and his successors were in Afghanistan. Eventually he or a successor will have to withdraw. And again, all these Russian deaths will have been for nothing.

Chechnya never existed for Putin apologists. I still vividly remember the images of Russian planes carpet bombing tower blocks on Grozny in the late 90s where thousands were massacred.
After that I never trusted Putin and let’s forget he also bombed the hell out of Aleppo as well but of course the contrarians love defending Assad as well.
Muslim lives matter only when it’s geopolitically convenient for some.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Yes, those things were evil. Killing the Chechen and Ukrainian civilians is *also* evil.

As for one side winning or losing, I don’t think there is any clear winner here, it depends what his objectives are. If he wants regime change in Kyiv, he has lost. If he wants an occupied buffer zone in Donbas, like Israel in the Golan Heights, he has won.

But Ukraine will not accept that loss of territory and will keep killing Russians. He’s in the same position that Brezhnev and his successors were in Afghanistan. Eventually he or a successor will have to withdraw. And again, all these Russian deaths will have been for nothing.

Chechens are figthing with Putin, they did a great job of wiping out the Azov Nazi National guard esp in Mariupol. War ended and now there is peace. Grozny is a developed city now. When Afghans and Iraqis who whose parents were fighting American and British invaders decide to fight with them, we can make a comparison.

Putin has never suggested regmine change, he could have killed Zelensky a long time ago, this is a western concept. It was the west which insitgated the bloody coup for regime change in 2014.

Ukraine is nothing like Afghanistan. All Afghans hate invaders, which is why so many Afghan army soldiers killed Americans. The East of Ukraine are Russians, Putin came in to liberate them, they will not fight Russia, they Donbass militias were fighting Nazis since 2014, with over 14,000 killed. Its a huge mistake to compare the two, Im sorry but you believe this , you are rightly confused as to whats going on.

 

[KingKhanWC]

They have around 500k troops now and have practically rebuilt their forces to fight NATO.

I have read they will be producing about 40 t90m's per month.

I also read that the abrams for every 1 hour of usage requires 3 hours of maintenance. Thus requires spare parts logistics and personnel..the Ukrainians have none of these..even if they get the German tanks how will they maintain them? The Russians control the skies pretty much..

Zelensky should have made peace when he took kherson. It was the ideal time..he would have come out a hero..but now we will soon see the MSM reduce Ukraine to the back pages..this thread will go quiet and after a year everyone will ask..oh what happened to ukraine..didn't Russia lose?

Most of the M1 Abrams arent even ready, it could take months before they arrive in Ukraine. But I agree they are gas guzzlers which arent very reliable.

Now we have clowns such as Boris and some others asking the west to send Fighter jets. Imo they would need around 100+ to make it a game changer. Many will be shot down by Russian S400 but some will get through and because its Nato stategy , they are not like the Russians who have always tried to minimise civilian casulaties, they will go full American style cowboy killing masses of civilians, this will then no doubt very much risk an all out war with Nato.

Europeans are so stupid thinking they will always be safe and its the browns or blacks who can only be bombed and destoryed.

This war is at a criticial stage not just for Ukraine but for humanity now.

 

[the Great Khan]

With regards to Chechnya and the wests hypocrisy..anybody remember poor Babar Ahmad. After 9.11 he got arrested for raising money for fighters who were fighting the Russians. Got Sent to a supermax..tortured and abused for years..finally got free..they said he was funding terror..now those same cadres are fighting for...yup you guessed it...Ukraine.

But [MENTION=7774]Robert[/MENTION] will brush this hypocrisy under the carpet with typical English double speak about making mistakes and it was a different time and we are where we are blah blah blah..

But Babar life was destroyed and he won't even get an apology..we remeber the war on terror and how it destroyed our generation. We lived in fear of travelling , at unis we were muzzled..and we got prevent..but for Ukraine everything is halal..

 

[the Great Khan]

Most of the M1 Abrams arent even ready, it could take months before they arrive in Ukraine. But I agree they are gas guzzlers which arent very reliable.

Now we have clowns such as Boris and some others asking the west to send Fighter jets. Imo they would need around 100+ to make it a game changer. Many will be shot down by Russian S400 but some will get through and because its Nato stategy , they are not like the Russians who have always tried to minimise civilian casulaties, they will go full American style cowboy killing masses of civilians, this will then no doubt very much risk an all out war with Nato.

Europeans are so stupid thinking they will always be safe and its the browns or blacks who can only be bombed and destoryed.

This war is at a criticial stage not just for Ukraine but for humanity now.

Lol the whole thing is a scam..it will be over in about 6 months..the MSM will go quiet and Robert and Co will have something else to talk about..

 

[KingKhanWC]

Lol the whole thing is a scam..it will be over in about 6 months..the MSM will go quiet and Robert and Co will have something else to talk about..

Lets hope so. You know how bad Nato/West are when we need Russia to win this conflict in a decisive manner so the world is a much safer place.

Putin speech yesterday was on point again. He stated yet again Russians are facing German tanks with crosses on them. I think the basic design of these leapord tanks is from the Nazi tanks which attacked Russians. It shows Putin and Russia know their history and will never allow their people to be attacked again.

 

[Robert]

Chechens are figthing with Putin, they did a great job of wiping out the Azov Nazi National guard esp in Mariupol. War ended and now there is peace. Grozny is a developed city now. When Afghans and Iraqis who whose parents were fighting American and British invaders decide to fight with them, we can make a comparison.

Putin has never suggested regmine change, he could have killed Zelensky a long time ago, this is a western concept. It was the west which insitgated the bloody coup for regime change in 2014.

Ukraine is nothing like Afghanistan. All Afghans hate invaders, which is why so many Afghan army soldiers killed Americans. The East of Ukraine are Russians, Putin came in to liberate them, they will not fight Russia, they Donbass militias were fighting Nazis since 2014, with over 14,000 killed. I a huge mistake to compare the two, Im sorry but you believe this , you are rightly confused as to whats going on.

Yes, it’s odd that Chechens would side with the man who killed so many of them.

Russia carried out regime change many times in the Soviet era. It’s not a “Western concept”. It’s a “land-grab concept”.

I don’t confuse Afghanistan with Ukraine. I believe the result will be the same for Moscow. Eventually they will have to leave.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Yes, it’s odd that Chechens would side with the man who killed so many of them.

Russia carried out regime change many times in the Soviet era. It’s not a “Western concept”. It’s a “land-grab concept”.

I don’t confuse Afghanistan with Ukraine. I believe the result will be the same for Moscow. Eventually they will have to leave.

Its not odd. The Chechen war started before Putin became leader. The CIA were supporting them against the Soviets. Eventually Putin made peace and Chechens have a lot of autonomy now along with decent living standards. There is always a chance of reconciliation, which Putin also wants with the West but the West are too stupid to consider this.

Russia today is not the Soviet Union.

Not at all, again the Eastern regions support Russia, they wanted Russia to intervene. Please explain what makes you think they will fight the people they see has heros?

 

[sweep_shot]

Chechnya today is not the same Chechya from the 1990's (when Chechen war took place).

Modern day Chechnya has autonomy. It has undergone great development. There is now truce between modern day Chechnya and state of Russia.

It is better to side with the Russians than with Yankees. That's for sure.

 

[Technics 1210]

If these radical liberals will not house Ukrainian refugees, why don't they go fight for Ukraine and defeat Putin's army? Should be easy with all the NATO support.

 

[Robert]

Lets hope so. You know how bad Nato/West are when we need Russia to win this conflict in a decisive manner so the world is a much safer place.

How, if Ukraine becomes a Russian satellite state again, do you think the world will be safer?

 

[KingKhanWC]

If these radical liberals will not house Ukrainian refugees, why don't they go fight for Ukraine and defeat Putin's army? Should be easy with all the NATO support.

According to some reports over 10 million have left. Thats nearly a third of the population.

UK cant pay nurses and others a fair wage but can spend billions on helping them? Check this out, esp the first report. Now some are angry as there are too many brown people in the UK.

 

[KingKhanWC]

How, if Ukraine becomes a Russian satellite state again, do you think the world will be safer?

Ukraine should be a neutral nation now. If the war continues the west will continue to use Ukranian blood to weaken Russia. But the western leaders are so stupid, Russia is becoming stronger than ever. Even with a strong US $, the Ruble is near under 70 per dollar!

If the west wins(which wont happen), they will then use Ukraine to attack inside Russia.

Did you know Soros stated this would happen, do you know when he said this?

 

[Robert]

If NATO wanted to attack Russia, it would have happened already from the Baltic states.

Ukraine should be a neutral nation now.

Isn’t that up to the people of Ukraine? If they want to join EU for prosperity and NATO for protection, isn’t that their right?

 

[sweep_shot]

If these radical liberals will not house Ukrainian refugees, why don't they go fight for Ukraine and defeat Putin's army? Should be easy with all the NATO support.

Radical liberals and Greta are all about lip services.

A large percentage of radical liberals seem too fat to do basic daily activities. Forget about fighting in a war.

 

[KingKhanWC]

If NATO wanted to attack Russia, it would have happened already from the Baltic states.



Isn’t that up to the people of Ukraine? If they want to join EU for prosperity and NATO for protection, isn’t that their right?

Proxy attack, any direct attack by Nato would mean a nuclear war.

Yes it was up to them before the Nato bloody coup. Their elected leader chose Russia. Didnt you suggest the minority protesters had a right to be against this?

Now unless Ukraine is neutral it wont survive esp as nation is being kept running by western aid. When this stops , they will suffer and Nato will not care.

 

[SalimBhai]

Radical liberals and Greta are all about lip services.

A large percentage of radical liberals seem too fat to do basic daily activities. Forget about fighting in a war.

Do you have any stats for proving liberals are fatter than conservatives. Or are you again going to run away from the thread ? Usa from a casual observation I would guess( I could be wrong) it’s the higher way around. Anyway waiting for proof. Your silence will prove once again that you are just making things up

 

[the Great Khan]

According to some reports over 10 million have left. Thats nearly a third of the population.

Imo send them all back, many of them are racist idiots or criminals. UK cant pay nurses and others a fair wage but can spend billions on helping them? Check this out, esp the first report. Now some are angry as there are too many brown people in the UK.

I posted this above..pin drop silence..now their kids will grow up with their white privilege intact..

 

[KingKhanWC]

I posted this above..pin drop silence..now their kids will grow up with their white privilege intact..

Yes you did but there will some sort of excuse, oh they are traumatised or something.

Remember when blacks and browns were being attacked at the start of the conflict in Ukraine?

They were let into the country without any serious questions or risk assement. Why let men in anyway, surely they should be in Ukraine fighting?

 

[Technics 1210]

Yes you did but there will some sort of excuse, oh they are traumatised or something.

Remember when blacks and browns were being attacked at the start of the conflict in Ukraine?

They were let into the country without any serious questions or risk assement. Why let men in anyway, surely they should be in Ukraine fighting?

The reality is that if refugees are white (even Nazi sympathisers from Ukraine) then society has no problem, in particular Liberals, but refugees from say Iraq and Afghanistan, countries illegally attacked by NATO and its members, then all hell breaks lose.

 

[SalimBhai]

The reality is that if refugees are white (even Nazi sympathisers from Ukraine) then society has no problem, in particular Liberals, but refugees from say Iraq and Afghanistan, countries illegally attacked by NATO and its members, then all hell breaks lose.

How many refugees did europe take from afghan and Middle East. How many did saudi take ?

 

[Reddy]

3rd February Briefing, Russian Ministry of defence:

US-supplied HIMARS rocket launcher system DESTROYED in Kherson region

Russian forces continue offensive in Donetsk Republic, taking advantageous positions and killed over 70 Ukrainian soldiers.

Ukrainian army fuel dump and 2 ammo dumps DESTROYED by Russian strikes in Donetsk Republic.

In Krasny Liman direction,two armoured fighting vehicles, one infantry fighting vehicle, one D-20 howitzer, and one U.S.-manufactured M-777 artillery system have been eliminated.

In Zaporozhye direction, The enemy has lost over 20 Ukrainian personnel, one U.S.-manufactured M-777 artillery system, two D-20 howitzers, and one D-30 howitzer.

https://eng.mil.ru/en/special_operation/news/more.htm?id=12453434@egNews

 

[Robert]

Proxy attack, any direct attack by Nato would mean a nuclear war.

Yes it was up to them before the Nato bloody coup. Their elected leader chose Russia. Didnt you suggest the minority protesters had a right to be against this?

Now unless Ukraine is neutral it wont survive esp as nation is being kept running by western aid. When this stops , they will suffer and Nato will not care.

Pretty flipping large “minority” if so - those Maidan protests were vast, 500,000+ people just in Kyiv.

Their parliament had overwhelmingly voted to join the EU, but President Yanukovych buckled to pressure from Moscow and reversed their decision. So the people rose up en masse.

 

[Robert]

How many refugees did europe take from afghan and Middle East. How many did saudi take ?

1. Millions

2. None

 

[sweep_shot]

1. Millions

2. None

For the record --> UNHCR has estimated that at least 240,000 Palestinians reside in Saudi Arabia, though the real number is believed to be much higher and other sources have suggested an upper estimate of as high as 1,000,000. Among the Rohingya, there are at least 250,000 registered Rohingya and an estimated 150,000 unregistered.

How many refugees did europe take from afghan and Middle East. How many did saudi take ?

Why are you bringing in Saudi here?

Just for the record --> UNHCR has estimated that at least 240,000 Palestinians reside in Saudi Arabia, though the real number is believed to be much higher and other sources have suggested an upper estimate of as high as 1,000,000. Among the Rohingya, there are at least 250,000 registered Rohingya and an estimated 150,000 unregistered.

Reference: https://academic.oup.com/rsq/advance-article/doi/10.1093/rsq/hdac027/6820992.

 

[Technics 1210]

Why should Saudi take in refugees from Afghanistan and Iraq? They didn’t start the illegal wars in Afghanistan/Iraq - NATO did!

 

[sweep_shot]

I have been very impressed with Wagner group. They seem like effective Nazi crushers.

I hope all the Azov Nazis will be wiped out (if not achieved already) by the time this special military operation is over.

 

[SalimBhai]

Why should Saudi take in refugees from Afghanistan and Iraq? They didn’t start the illegal wars in Afghanistan/Iraq - NATO did!

Well going by your logic. They did use Saudi bases for attacks. Also what happened to the Muslim brotherhood.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Pretty flipping large “minority” if so - those Maidan protests were vast, 500,000+ people just in Kyiv.

Their parliament had overwhelmingly voted to join the EU, but President Yanukovych buckled to pressure from Moscow and reversed their decision. So the people rose up en masse.

So you support protests from a minority against an elected leader because he choose Russia not the EU.

Then you write

"Isn’t that up to the people of Ukraine?"

Surely in a so called democray the majority has the say.

Many politicians sold out to Nato. They should have waited and democratically removed the leader as per law . I assume you dont support the shooting dead of people and police by the Azov and their friends or was that ok too because the leader wanted to be with Russia.

Where do you draw the line Robert, a nuclear bomb is ok too as you claimed it was when the Yanks dropped it on Japan?

 

[KingKhanWC]

I have been very impressed with Wagner group. They seem like effective Nazi crushers.

I hope all the Azov Nazis will be wiped out (if not achieved already) by the time this special military operation is over.

It was mainly the Chechens who wiped out the Azov. Those Muslim brothers are monsters physically but humble people. I would have loved to see the faces of the Nazis when met with Chechen special forces. There isnt even an argument in my view, the greatest combat figthers on planet Earth right now. This is why I laugh when people here in the UK think if RUssia invaded we would have the men to fight such people. Here most young men are weak, drug addicted, booze additced and nowadays we dont even know if they are men or women

 

[Robert]

For the record --> UNHCR has estimated that at least 240,000 Palestinians reside in Saudi Arabia, though the real number is believed to be much higher and other sources have suggested an upper estimate of as high as 1,000,000. Among the Rohingya, there are at least 250,000 registered Rohingya and an estimated 150,000 unregistered.

Irrelevant to [MENTION=156573]SalimBhai[/MENTION]’s question - about Afghanistan and Iraq - which you clearly didn’t read.

 

[sweep_shot]

Irrelevant to [MENTION=156573]SalimBhai[/MENTION]’s question - about Afghanistan and Iraq - which you clearly didn’t read.

Salim's question was --> How many refugees did Saudis take from Afghanistan and Middle East?

Last time I checked, Palestine was in Middle East. Looks like you need to go back to school for geography lesson.

 

[sweep_shot]

It was mainly the Chechens who wiped out the Azov. Those Muslim brothers are monsters physically but humble people. I would have loved to see the faces of the Nazis when met with Chechen special forces. There isnt even an argument in my view, the greatest combat figthers on planet Earth right now. This is why I laugh when people here in the UK think if RUssia invaded we would have the men to fight such people. Here most young men are weak, drug addicted, booze additced and nowadays we dont even know if they are men or women

Only good Nazi is a dead Nazi. Glad Chechens and Wagner are smashing those Nazis.

A significant percentage of modern day British men seem softened up. Radical liberalism has made them brittle. That's the vibe I get.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Salim's question was --> How many refugees did Saudis take from Afghanistan and Middle East?

Last time I checked, Palestine was in Middle East. Looks like you need to go back to school for geography lesson.

Many go to Saudi as simply immigrants. Saudi Arabia hosts the world's second largest migrant population.

However Saudi doesnt claim to be the land of the saviours of the planet, which many lands in the west do.

 

[sweep_shot]

Salim's question was --> How many refugees did Saudis take from Afghanistan and Middle East?

Last time I checked, Palestine was in Middle East. Looks like you need to go back to school for geography lesson.

Just to add there is nothing called "Afghan refugee" anymore. Afghanistan is free again after Yankees have been sent home defeated.

 

[sweep_shot]

Many go to Saudi as simply immigrants. Saudi Arabia hosts the world's second largest migrant population.

However Saudi doesnt claim to be the land of the saviours of the planet, which many lands in the west do.

Saudi Arabia has a pretty effective system. They only allow as much as they can handle. They don't make unsustainable decisions like western countries do.

Saudi Arabia or any country of that size can't take in unlimited refugees. There has to be a cap.

 

[Robert]

Only good Nazi is a dead Nazi. Glad Chechens and Wagner are smashing those Nazis.

Wagner are also Nazis. You are cheering for actual Nazis.

A significant percentage of modern day British men seem softened up. Radical liberalism has made them brittle. That's the vibe I get.

You are using the language of the fascist again.

I’ll accept lessons on manhood from you when you finally get to kiss a girl.

 

[Robert]

So you support protests from a minority against an elected leader because he choose Russia not the EU.

Then you write

"Isn’t that up to the people of Ukraine?"

Surely in a so called democray the majority has the say.

Many politicians sold out to Nato. They should have waited and democratically removed the leader as per law . I assume you dont support the shooting dead of people and police by the Azov and their friends or was that ok too because the leader wanted to be with Russia.

Where do you draw the line Robert, a nuclear bomb is ok too as you claimed it was when the Yanks dropped it on Japan?

The people didn’t give Parliament time to remove the President. Half a million citizens of Kyiv rose up in peaceful protest after their President reversed what he said he would do. Yanukovych became a fugitive, and fled to Russia.

That was all before Putin invaded Crimea and fomented armed uprisings against Ukraine in Donbas - which he did in response to the Euromaidan.

No clue about the WW2 bombing reference - that’s a quixotic argument.

 

[KingKhanWC]

The people didn’t give Parliament time to remove the President. Half a million citizens of Kyiv rose up in peaceful protest after their President reversed what he said he would do. Yanukovych became a fugitive, and fled to Russia.

That was all before Putin invaded Crimea and fomented armed uprisings against Ukraine in Donbas - which he did in response to the Euromaidan.

No clue about the WW2 bombing reference - that’s a quixotic argument.

There wasnt half a million in Kyiv. Rose up? Nazis were used to shoot and murder people inc police. Are you suggesting you support this?

WW2 referenc is because you are happy nukes to be used on people so what type of violence do you stop at when it comes to those you support?