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West Indies v Pakistan | 2nd Test | Bridgetown, Barbados | Apr 30-May 4, 2017 | Day 5

140 target was the cut off for me

This may sound stupid but at 2 down vlcould have sent Shadab to up the ante like 20 in 25 balls that would have shattered WI
 
troodon said:
Pak should still be able to win it.

If Sarfraz can bat for 20 overs, Pak will be in driving seat.

Pak's lower order are no mugs with the bat. Yasir/Amir/Shadab can all bat and support Sarfraz.

I say its 60-40 advantage to WI at lunch. All is not lost for Pak. A 30 or 40 run partnership will put WI under severe pressure. They are all noobs. No experience there.
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more like 85-15 atm, very hard to comeback, but still a chance. But you're right least our tail can bat a bit, so if these batsmen can get a partnership going there is a chance.

Actually felt it's the strongest tail we've fielded in ages. Only Abbas looks like he can't really bat. Of course they aren't amazing, just usually used to having a very weak tail.
 
Friend786 said:
Thats one big IF !!!
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If any player could handle this pressure, it is Sarfraz. He can run quick singles and hit the occasional boundary.

This newbie WI team do not know how to win. A 30 run partnership could shatter their confidence.

If Pak does not lose any wickets in the first hour after lunch, WI will panic.

Pretty sure Bishoo will bowl after lunch which should be a relief for Pak.
 
How would fans react if Bangladesh struggled like this abroad? I can only imagine the "omg you can't beat West Indies even"

Winning tests abroad ain't easy
 
35/5 ? Oh lord. This is quite funny. and there are posters who equate the Pakistani team to be the number 1 test team .
 
Shadab is a dangerous threat Windies have to be wary of. If he gets set, he's gonna take the game away.
 
ahmedwaqas92 said:
Before Edgebatson 2016, Before Galle 2012, Before Sydney 2010 there was Antigua 2000 :babar

That was the first time I cried over a test match loss but one has to agree that the umpiring was horrendously dodgy in that game as Wasim had dismissed Jimmy almost thrice in that single innings.

Plus that run out muck up by Saqlain in the end :facepalm:
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Was checking out the game. Pretty amazing that Adams scored 48 from 212 balls and zero boundaries. Immense exhibition of defensive batting!
 
Executioner said:
How would fans react if Bangladesh struggled like this abroad? I can only imagine the "omg you can't beat West Indies even"

Winning tests abroad ain't easy
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Pakistan do quite well abroad.

Chasing is an issue for Pak in general be it UAE, Pak or on Mars.
 
Executioner said:
How would fans react if Bangladesh struggled like this abroad? I can only imagine the "omg you can't beat West Indies even"

Winning tests abroad ain't easy
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We won the first one and may even go onto win this one here.


Don't compare a test minnow side like Bangladesh with Pakistan.
 
I finally had time today to watch the match properly, and this is what happens :facepalm:
[MENTION=138463]Slog[/MENTION], just saw your mention from a couple of days back. Busy with college. Semester's about to end, finals and stuff.
 
Pakistan team always has always been unpredictable and that trend continues. Whether to set a total or chase one - you cannot play one sided games. To be recognized as a good team you'd have to perform in either scenario and whether at home and abroad. Collapsing like this against a depleted WI team is quite bad . Even if they win this- this wouldn't be a moral victory for them
 
Executioner said:
How would fans react if Bangladesh struggled like this abroad? I can only imagine the "omg you can't beat West Indies even"

Winning tests abroad ain't easy
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Fourth innings on such wicket can be very tricky, No need to go too far away.

Also West Indies haven't won yet.
 
I don't know why people have to drag the "it isn't easy winning matches abroad" excuse to justify this pathetic exhibition of batting against a minnow, this is pretty standard subcontinental type surface with similar characteristics, they're used to playing on these and a defeat here should be condemned just like any other defeat.
 
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bleaf27 said:
Pakistan team always has always been unpredictable and that trend continues. Whether to set a total or chase one - you cannot play one sided games. To be recognized as a good team you'd have to perform in either scenario and whether at home and abroad. Collapsing like this against a depleted WI team is quite bad . Even if they win this- this wouldn't be a moral victory for them
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Agree with everything you said. But I would argue winning this from here would be a huge moral victory. Don't see it happening though.
 
Syed1 said:
We won the first one and may even go onto win this one here.


Don't compare a test minnow side like Bangladesh with Pakistan.
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How much cricket does Bangladesh get to play and how much Pakistan does? Bangladesh can only get better with experience.
 
Hamza_ said:
Fourth innings on such wicket can be very tricky, No need to go too far away.

Also West Indies haven't won yet.
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I understand but I am talking about a hypothetical situation. Heck BD got flak for losing the 3rd ODI against sl
 
Executioner said:
How much cricket does Bangladesh get to play and how much Pakistan does? Bangladesh can only get better with experience.
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The point of bringing Bangladesh into a Pakistan vs West Indies thread is ????

Are you lot that insecure ?????
 
Boy this wicket is bad.

Cracks look much worse then yesterday.
 
Very worrying signs for the future, especially with Asad Shafiq, a guy who is supposed to be the backbone of our middle order in the coming years. His inconsistency is proving to be a real problem.
 
KhalidRafi said:
Agree with everything you said. But I would argue winning this from here would be a huge moral victory. Don't see it happening though.
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It could be either way - Pak would look this as a moral victory for being 35/5 and winning this - but again they made this hard for themselves . WI would look at this as a moral victory of putting a stronger Pak team down to the mat while defending such a small total.
 
Have said it before and I'll say it again

Pakistan batting HAS NEVER failed to disappoint me over the years
 
Not saying Shadab can't bat, but usne aisey kiya kia hai that he has become more of a dangerous threat than anyone else in our team?
 
Executioner said:
I understand but I am talking about a hypothetical situation. Heck BD got flak for losing the 3rd ODI against sl
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Pakistan gets a similar flack for poor performance in NZ and Australia from India and other fans, Even some Pakistani fans.

It's a game and there are fans, Australia gets a flack for it's pathetic performance in UAE.

Bangladesh may have been under flack because they were having some sharp rise in ODIs while SL are on an all time low.
 
Unless shadab scores a 50 plus, his inclusion is what has cost us.

Should never have played with 2 leg spinners and only 2 pacers
 
Let's see which Pakistani batsman can get a 20. I have a felling Sarfraz will get to the milestone.
 
Who the heck was saying that Shadab could bat....This guy is a proper #11 Horrible technique
 
Wow. This is even more disgraceful than South Africa. Atleast they were South Africa bowling us out in the 40s.
 
captain crook said:
What's the lowest score in a test innings?
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26 all out by Kiwis in 1955.

Pakistan's lowest is 49 all out against Saffers in Jo'burg in 2013, a couple of months after the Saffers bowled the Kiwis out for 45.
 
ahmedwaqas92 said:
Who the heck was saying that Shadab could bat....This guy is a proper #11 Horrible technique
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I'd said first day that most likely he is another zabardasti ka all rounder like Nawaz

And people rounded on me saying he's as good as a pure batsman and whatnot
 
KhalidRafi said:
Wow. This is even more disgraceful than South Africa. Atleast they were South Africa bowling us out in the 40s.
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Not to mention an ATG pace attack in Steyn, Philander and Morkel on Saffer pitch
 
Not an easy pitch to bat on, but absolutely pathetic approach by Pakistan . . there is NO WAY ON EARTH you can just survive on this pitch and hope for some runs . . sooner rather than later, you will get a ball with your number on it . . This approach is suicidal . . they don't wanna score runs . . just wanna survive . . which isn't possible! The other thing scoring does is that it makes the bowler think . .they can't keep doing the smae thing . . the captain needs to think . . change bowlers, change plans . . you score a quick 50, and its a different game altogether . . cuz they dont have a ton of runs to play with . . but this apprioach, they know that Pak won't harm them . .
 
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