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Dr. Tahir-ul-Qadri discussion thread

Anyone following this closely on TV?

Nearly all independent reporters are saying that there are about 30-40k people on the streets.

Is that accurate? or is it 4 million as Qadri puts it?

Those are gov. agencies, police claim there are 30k when rehman malik claims there are 30k police there.

BBC claimed yesterday it was 200k which seems more accurate.

However it seems to have increased this morning like i predicted earlier and after his 11am speech more people came out, SC judgment has spread the news of a government collapse is coming which will bring more people.

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Things have cooled of a bit. I bet Qadri is eating pullao right now. Gut feeling.
 
Exactly. What a drama. The elections are taking place in two-three months time. We've had 5 years of this government, let it complete its term and let ANY change be done by the ballot box and by the votes of the Pakistani people.

Unconstitutional, extra-judicial attempts and another Operation Fair Play will simply play into the hands of the PPP whose best electoral asset is the martyrdom card.

So sick of all these conspiracies and plots by various institutions in an attempt to undermine each other.

It's not that simple. There is still some sorting out to do.


I actually want Qadri to go on for a bit.
 
Exactly. What a drama. The elections are taking place in two-three months time. We've had 5 years of this government, let it complete its term and let ANY change be done by the ballot box and by the votes of the Pakistani people.

Unconstitutional, extra-judicial attempts and another Operation Fair Play will simply play into the hands of the PPP whose best electoral asset is the martyrdom card.

So sick of all these conspiracies and plots by various institutions in an attempt to undermine each other.

Well even if elections are taking place in a couple of months I don't see any change. If it's not PPP then it's PML-N.
AS I wrote in this thread yesterday millions of people have been voting these parties for generations and these parties have a strong hold in many many families. If a son wants to vote for one party his father will ask him to vote for the same party he himself gives his vote to otherwise the son will be in trouble and if they don't change their attitude you will probaly see the same result again, and add to that the fraud which takes place during the elections.
 
Those are gov. agencies, police claim there are 30k when rehman malik claims there are 30k police there.

BBC claimed yesterday it was 200k which seems more accurate.

However it seems to have increased this morning like i predicted earlier and after his 11am speech more people came out, SC judgment has spread the news of a government collapse is coming which will bring more people.

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People are leaving. My two subordinates were there and they told me they are now their way back to home . There are at max 40k.
 
BBC claimed yesterday it was 200k which seems more accurate.
BBC said 20K, gathered outside his residence. I didn't see mention of 200k
SC judgment has spread the news of a government collapse is coming which will bring more people.
I don't he will hit the 4 million mark. That is half a city. 100k max, including mostly guys watching the drama as schools and colleges have been closed.
 
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Well even if elections are taking place in a couple of months I don't see any change. If it's not PPP then it's PML-N.
AS I wrote in this thread yesterday millions of people have been voting these parties for generations and these parties have a strong hold in many many families. If a son wants to vote for one party his father will ask him to vote for the same party he himself gives his vote to otherwise the son will be in trouble and if they don't change their attitude you will probaly see the same result again, and add to that the fraud which takes place during the elections.

So then does it mean elections should mever happen? This mentality cannot be changed overnight.
 
BBC said 20K, gathered outside his residence. I didn't see mention of 200k

I don't he will hit the 4 million mark. That is half a city. 100k max, including mostly guys watching the drama as schools and colleges have been closed.

All institutions are open. Were open today as well.
 
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BBC said 20K, gathered outside his residence. I didn't see mention of 200k

I don't he will hit the 4 million mark. That is half a city. 100k max, including mostly guys watching the drama as schools and colleges have been closed.

4 million was a wild number, even 1 million is for a protest where people have to come from other cities.

However in Tahrir square there was only 300,000 which can be achieved if they stay there for few more days and more people will pour in.
 
Well even if elections are taking place in a couple of months I don't see any change. If it's not PPP then it's PML-N.
AS I wrote in this thread yesterday millions of people have been voting these parties for generations and these parties have a strong hold in many many families. If a son wants to vote for one party his father will ask him to vote for the same party he himself gives his vote to otherwise the son will be in trouble and if they don't change their attitude you will probaly see the same result again, and add to that the fraud which takes place during the elections.

In 1997 - the PPP won 18 seats. The PML-N was collapsing soon after their 97 election victory, and in 2002 - the PML-N won 19 seats. But of course, Musharraf intervened and both parties were made martyrs of. And then we had to go back to square one.

In 65 years of the existence of the state of Pakistan, about half has been under military rule. The democratic institutions or any other institution has never been allowed to develop. Even now every other department is run by an ex-general or a brigadier. If you cut a tree down every time it starts growing it will not grow very large. Every time a democratically elected government gets out of control it is the army which comes in rather than the people.

1947-1958 - 11 years of democracy
1958–71 - 13 years of military rule
1971-77 - 6 years of democracy
1977–88 - 11 years of military rule
1988-99 - 11 years of democracy
1999-2008 - 9 years of military rule
2008- 5 years of democracy

Now how do you expect an institution to return a good system and grow strong when it hasn't even been given 15 continuous years throughout our history ? How are the people going to learn how to use their votes when they have never been allowed to vote a full three terms? Give the people of Pakistan a chance to learn how to use democracy to their advantage.

If people seriously think the solution to all our problems is for a cleric who has lived abroad for the best part of a decade to go on a march then you are mistaken. Demand-making should be done through parliament and not through unconstitutional means. Why play into the hands of the PPP and the military who will only benefit from such instability - two parties that have sold the country down the river for the mighty dollar.
 
Perveiz Musharraf is coming back to Pakistan within 3 weeks.

...and remember this man, Shaykh Muhammad Nazim - the turkish scholar who predicted the Arab Spring.

Well this is what he said about Pakistan
http://saltanat.org/videopage.php?id=5649

Musharraf will return to power and his rule will extend to Delhi. There are 7 awliyas in Pakistan that are praying for his success.
 
However in Tahrir square there was only 300,000 which can be achieved if they stay there for few more days and more people will pour in.
In egypt you had protests in every city, not just Cairo. The leadership had the option of going or staying for the long term.

In Pakistan the leadership is looking to loot for another few months only. They can haul out for that long.

Besides Qadri is considered a cartoon by majority of Pakistanis. He does not command a support of 300,000 people in Northern Pakistan.
 
Perveiz Musharraf is coming back to Pakistan within 3 weeks.

...and remember this man, Shaykh Muhammad Nazim - the turkish scholar who predicted the Arab Spring.

Well this is what he said about Pakistan
http://saltanat.org/videopage.php?id=5649

Musharraf will return to power and his rule will extend to Delhi. There are 7 awliyas in Pakistan that are praying for his success.

Hahahahahahahahahahaha
 
In 1997 - the PPP won 18 seats. The PML-N was collapsing soon after their 97 election victory, and in 2002 - the PML-N won 19 seats. But of course, Musharraf intervened and both parties were made martyrs of. And then we had to go back to square one.

In 65 years of the existence of the state of Pakistan, about half has been under military rule. The democratic institutions or any other institution has never been allowed to develop. Even now every other department is run by an ex-general or a brigadier. If you cut a tree down every time it starts growing it will not grow very large. Every time a democratically elected government gets out of control it is the army which comes in rather than the people.

1947-1958 - 11 years of democracy
1958–71 - 13 years of military rule
1971-77 - 6 years of democracy
1977–88 - 11 years of military rule
1988-99 - 11 years of democracy
1999-2008 - 9 years of military rule
2008- 5 years of democracy

Now how do you expect an institution to return a good system and grow strong when it hasn't even been given 15 continuous years throughout our history ? How are the people going to learn how to use their votes when they have never been allowed to vote a full three terms? Give the people of Pakistan a chance to learn how to use democracy to their advantage.

If people seriously think the solution to all our problems is for a cleric who has lived abroad for the best part of a decade to go on a march then you are mistaken. Demand-making should be done through parliament and not through unconstitutional means. Why play into the hands of the PPP and the military who will only benefit from such instability - two parties that have sold the country down the river for the mighty dollar.

Top top post. :thumbup::thumbup:
 
All comparisons to Egypt are simply invalid. As pointed out the entire country was protesting.

They have a much larger urban, educated middle and working class, and have totally different demographics to Pakistan, a mainly poor, illiterate and a semi-industrialised/agrarian nation. And of course you had Mubarak's one party rule for 30 years.

Also feudal ties still are strong in Pakistan. People are treated like modern-day serfs, and thousands are in a form of debt bondage.
 
All comparisons to Egypt are simply invalid. As pointed out the entire country was protesting.

They have a much larger urban, educated middle and working class, and have totally different demographics to Pakistan, a mainly poor, illiterate and a semi-industrialised/agrarian nation. And of course you had Mubarak's one party rule for 30 years.

Also feudal ties still are strong in Pakistan. People are treated like modern-day serfs, and thousands are in a form of debt bondage.

Egyptians were against a dictator who have been ruling over them for decades. They were fighting for democracy while qadri is fighting against democracy. He has got few thousands workers of his minhaj ul Quran institutions, students of his instititions and some thousand aqeedat mand. Totally invalid comparison. Its a topi drama. Infact its a joke.
 
Farhan Bokhari, senior journalist of Financial Times has just said on Geo news that he has covered many long marches at Islamabad but never seen such a massive and determinant crowed in his life.
 
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In egypt you had protests in every city, not just Cairo. The leadership had the option of going or staying for the long term.

In Pakistan the leadership is looking to loot for another few months only. They can haul out for that long.

Besides Qadri is considered a cartoon by majority of Pakistanis. He does not command a support of 300,000 people in Northern Pakistan.

The comparisons are valid, because the Egyptian ones grew overtime which will happen here too. We just had big protests all over the country for the Hazara incidents, unfortunately they died down but once this protest grows i can see some cropping up all over the country.

As for the leadership looking to stay only a few months then you are wrong, they are almost certain to win elections along with pmln and continue there looting forever till someone takes a stand, and here is the oppertunity to do away with them forever. This is probably the biggest protest ever in the capital.

This isnt about Qadri or any individual, other big figures need to come out and join in to increase the numbers.
 
From TuQ's fb page

Dr Qadri’s briefing
►Breaking news! / 08:26pm
Dr Muhammad Tahir-ul-Qadri’s emergency address to people at 08:26pm (less than one hour ago).

Now I want to explain two or three important points regarding the happenings of the last night. The cowards of law enforcement agencies tonight again plan to stage an attack, like the one they did in the morning.

Last night we reached in Islamabad at around 02:15am in the meeting place. Rehman Malik backed out of his word as where the gathering would take place. First he committed the place of D-Square and then he said he didn’t.

So people went to D-Square—the place where the gathering was supposed to take place.

In the morning, Rehman Malik sent bearded people who resorted to gunfire and then shell firing. Thus they dispersed the gathering largely. They, then, tried to abduct Dr Qadri. They took control of the steering wheel of the vehicle. The two security guards of Dr Tahir-ul-Qadri entered the front seat and fought the members of law enforcement agencies hand to hand. The security guards of broke the handle of the wheel, so the would-be abductors realized they would be unable to carry out their mission—the vehicle would not move. Also, outside the female participants of the sit-in made a chain of hands and protected the life of Dr Qadri. Then the would-be abductors escaped firing in the air.

They have not given even a single security guard to Dr Qadri and the participants of the million march man.

The rulers are ready to flee from Pakistan. Their aeroplanes are ready to take them and the families abroad.

Be warned, according to Dr Qadri’s reports, they again tonight are returning in much more numbers. They will tear gas the people, use water cannons and fire in the air. And they want to abduct and/or kill Dr Qadri.
 
There is significance ignorance I do see here in our young members who may be spending too much time hating TUQ rather realzing real issue and his agenda

At present moment TUQ may have gone out to the wrong way to start this movement at very bad time, and it seems to be derail democratic process. However reality is that presently there in NO democracy exist in Pakistan. Election are always riged, voters are bought and there is no check and balance system e.g. independent election commision with power of exercising powers without fear of reprocusion.

Like Imran Khan said two parties PML N and PPP has done a silient deal, where they will switch powers, and this time PML N to take central and PPP to take SINDH in next elections

Now if this process remain like this, then Pakistan is on verge of serious crisis where people will give up and conclude democracy cannot be consider option for better future, unfortunately Army is not good option either.

Why this long march is very important, even this seems undemoractic move by TUQ , BUT if he is able to shake this Govt in time ahead of election, where PLM N and PPP cannot get ease to put their interim govt and election comissioner who will make sure that election favors these two parties. He will then have done huge favor to the nation in time along long has he suceed getting fair election commissioner, and a real interm goverment, may be not now be in few months.

If this happends then his party and other rising parties like PTI will get fair chance in election and Pakistan will indeed see a change, however change does come with struggle which is TUQ atleast has started
 
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U S A foreign department asks for more security for tuq and mob. Dunya news .
 
There is significance ignorance I do see here in our young members who may be spending too much time hating TUQ rather realzing real issue and his agenda

At present moment TUQ may have gone out to the wrong way to start this movement at very bad time, and it seems to be derail democratic process. However reality is that presently there in NO democracy exist in Pakistan. Election are always riged, voters are bought and there is no check and balance system e.g. independent election commision with power of exercising powers without fear of reprocusion.

Like Imran Khan said two parties PML N and PPP has done a silient deal, where they will switch powers, and this time PML N to take central and PPP to take SINDH in next elections

Now if this process remain like this, then Pakistan is on verge of serious crisis where people will give up and conclude democracy cannot be consider option for better future, unfortunately Army is not good option either.

Why this long march is very important, even this seems undemoractic move by TUQ , BUT ]if he is able to shake this Govt in time ahead of election, where PLM N and PPP cannot get ease to put their interim govt and election comissioner who will make sure that election favors these two parties. He will then have done huge favor to the nation in time along long has he suceed getting fair election commissioner, and a real interm goverment, may be not now be in few months.

If this happends then his party and other rising parties like PTI will get fair chance in election and Pakistan will indeed see a change, however change does come with struggle which is TUQ atleast has started

Who will do this and how will it be done?
 
They, then, tried to abduct Dr Qadri. They took control of the steering wheel of the vehicle. The two security guards of Dr Tahir-ul-Qadri entered the front seat and fought the members of law enforcement agencies hand to hand. The security guards of broke the handle of the wheel, so the would-be abductors realized they would be unable to carry out their mission—the vehicle would not move.


From TuQ's fb page

And where was Rajni Kanth during this stint?
 
How many of you think that Pakistan is going towards a civil war? PPP and PML-N are going to play their political cards as well. That still has to be seen.
 
Obviously people of Pakistan can do it, by speaking up ENOUGH is ENOUGH

We are not puppets we are 180 million people with some has some brain :)

Protrest is the right of every Pakistani, TUQ formula by increasing pressure when participant gets double every day would do it. It would be impossible for govt then to put interm govt which can ridge elections since whole world is now looking, and so do the army. Sooner or latter PM and Presendent will get a very nasty calls ... from here and there
 
Obviously people of Pakistan can do it, by speaking up ENOUGH is ENOUGH

We are not puppets we are 180 million people with some has some brain :)

Protrest is the right of every Pakistani, TUQ formula by increasing pressure when participant gets double every day would do it. It would be impossible for govt then to put interm govt which can ridge elections since whole world is now looking, and so do the army. Sooner or latter PM and Presendent will get a very nasty calls ... from here and there


hmmmm .. and who will put a non-bias interim govt?
 
I am going to sleep right now and I will wake up in the morning.

here is my question for you guys. Just speculate.

What "ada kam" is qadri referring to? What will happen by tomorrow or day after tomorrow?
 
hmmmm .. and who will put a non-bias interim govt?

hint hint


Not sure have you seen Apis Ki baat show by najim sethi. This whole drama could be staged by establishment so they can atleast clear to way for clean and less corrupt people. Idea is to shake the givt and PLM N in time. Sooner or later if this turns into uunccntrolable to event which possiblity is it might be, then expect army to send a serious statement like case of last long march.

I see in conclusion TUQ will suceed in getting new independent commision where news channels are porting that talks have begun already in Govt
 
I am going to sleep right now and I will wake up in the morning.

here is my question for you guys. Just speculate.

What "ada kam" is qadri referring to? What will happen by tomorrow or day after tomorrow?


What on god's green earth Tahir Qadri had to with "adha kaam" being done due to his march ???? Why is he taking credit for it?

He said he's got 4 to 5 million people while only about 50K may have turned up. This guy is a LIAR !! unless of course after living six years in Canada he couldn't figure that 50K is not equal to 5 million cuz that's what new desis do when they move to west. Even before buying tomatoes piyaaz and Dhaniya they will first convert dollar amount in Pak Rs and usually get lost in the math.
 
Dr. Qadri: I am thankful to Imran Khan who supported my agenda and I request him if you want change this is the TIME and come join me right now.
 
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I mean come on, is there a reason to be biased here? Most of us are cricket fans here, lets imagine the gaddafi stadium where we've all been and think, can all these people fit in there? I'm sure they can't and gaddafi holds 60,000.
 
Dr. Qadri: I am thankful to Imran Khan who supported my agenda and I request him if you want change this is the TIME and come join me right now.



And now he is pulling Imran Khan in this crap. Why putting pressure on Imran ??
What does Imran have to do with your timing of showing up in Pakistan you retarded piece of crap??
Imran wants to go thru a process and that is ELECTIONS.
What will Imran do if he join you? NOTHING !! Imran wants an ELECTION, not protests like this.
If Imran wanted he could have a staged a protest of a size that would made your pants wet but this was NOT Imran's plan, and this was NOT his way.

Yes, I Imran would have marched out to ISD and ouster the govt IF AND ONLY IF there was being a rigid election, NOT before that. !!

This parasite has just ruined everything that Imran worked so hard for.
 
And now he is pulling Imran Khan in this crap. Why putting pressure on Imran ??
What does Imran have to do with your timing of showing up in Pakistan you retarded piece of crap??
Imran wants to go thru a process and that is ELECTIONS.
What will Imran do if he join you? NOTHING !! Imran wants an ELECTION, not protests like this.
If Imran wanted he could have a staged a protest of a size that would made your pants wet but this was NOT Imran's plan, and this was NOT his way.

Yes, I Imran would have marched out to ISD and ouster the govt IF AND ONLY IF there was being a rigid election, NOT before that. !!

This parasite has just ruined everything that Imran worked so hard for.

PPP Supporter ?
And cut down on the abusive language please he's doing something you couldn't do if you had a million year life time
 
PPP Supporter ?
And cut down on the abusive language please he's doing something you couldn't do if you had a million year life time

Imran could have done way more damage that Qadri had he wanted. But Imran wants a political process, elections, and transfer of power.

Qadri has given PPP the chance to play the victim card once again.
 
Imran could have done way more damage that Qadri had he wanted. But Imran wants a political process, elections, and transfer of power.

Qadri has given PPP the chance to play the victim card once again.

Obviously Imran could get a million men for his march easy but whats to say this election isn't rigged ?
As for PPP playing the victim card well that won't happen if some how Qadris demands are met and zadari gets stuffed.
 
The long march has caught the politicians by the balls. They know they are toast hence calling each other to save their own backsides. True colors coming out. Their rule is coming to an end. NS is the biggest barking dog at the moment - love it.
 
Read this line again.









And no abusive language. It's all politically correct.

Why don't you see it as Qadri doing IKs dirty work ?
BTW your a retarded piece of crap !
That's politically acceptable so I am allowed to say it I assume ? Or is it one rule for me and another for you .
 
Tahir ul Qadri has nothing wrong over the last few weeks. He has repeated what we all have been saying for years including Imran Khan. Pakistan is being emptied of its wealth in the name of democracy which serves the politicians. How can we all sit back and just watch and let the game continue? The change must happen now so that looters like Zardari and Sharifs will never be seen ever again.

Pakistan's democracy is like a two sided kingdom - one run by zardari and one by NS yet the aim never changes - to loot and plunder the country. Ab mere baari ab tumhari bari. 5 years me then 5 years you. Enough!
 
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Why don't you see it as Qadri doing IKs dirty work ?
BTW your a retarded piece of crap !
That's politically acceptable so I am allowed to say it I assume ? Or is it one rule for me and another for you .

I never addressed YOU as a forum member ... I am addressing Tahir Qadri as it would be obvious to a 5 year old kid, so take back your reply and apologize.
 
Tahir ul Qadri has nothing wrong over the last few weeks. He has repeated what we all have been saying for years including Imran Khan. Pakistan is being emptied of its wealth in the name of democracy which serves the politicians. How can we all sit back and just watch and let the game continue? The change must happen now so that looters like Zardari and Sharifs will never be seen ever again.

Pakistan's democracy is like a two sided kingdom - one run by zardari and one by NS yet the aim never changes - to loot and plunder the country. Ab mere baari ab tumhari bari. 5 years me then 5 years you. Enough!


wrong.
Protests should have been TRULY JUSTIFIED ONLY after a rigid election that would have brought PPP or PML(N) back in power. We should let the election go and take it's due process.
All this protest and frustration should have been taken out at the VOTING BALLOT, not in the streets.
 
even zaid hamid has the brains, its quite amazing how baffled a guy like IK is

From ZH

Our message to Imran and PTI:

The Hazaras of Quetta had put up a brave stand in freezing conditions to bring down the corrupt provincial government. Now thousands of Pakistanis are putting up a brave fight in Islamabad in extreme conditions to remove this regime. Zardari is under extreme pressure now. Chef Justice has also been encouraged and has taken the much delayed step of ordering the arrest of Prime Minister also. This is the moment to launch your own movement in support of the cause. Do not delay now. Launch immediately.

We may have many differences on strategy, policies and vision but we are common on one agenda -- remove this regime and bring about patriotic caretaker government which should reform the system and recover the state. We will deal about the elections later.

There is a complete political anarchy in Islamabad now. This is an unprecedented crisis. parliament is under siege and the entire government has fled. Constitution is silent on such a crisis. We have rejected the caretaker setup by the two political parties. Now the parliament is also under siege and government is incapacitated. This situation cannot continue indefinitely. Pakistan cannot remain without a government for long. The crisis must be resolved quickly and that needs a force multiplier.

Indians are waiting on their toes to exploit the power vacuum in Pakistan. If the political parties delay the resolution of the crisis, enemies would exploit our national security.

InshAllah Khair for Pak Sarzameen.
 
I never addressed YOU as a forum member ... I am addressing Tahir Qadri as it would be obvious to a 5 year old kid, so take back your reply and apologize.
Ok I apologise but please refrain from talking ill of a fellow Muslim .Also your reactions show you it's not nice to have people talking I'll of you .
Treat others how you want to be treated .
 
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even zaid hamid has the brains, its quite amazing how baffled a guy like IK is


Our message to Imran and PTI:

The Hazaras of Quetta had put up a brave stand in freezing conditions to bring down the corrupt provincial government. Now thousands of Pakistanis are putting up a brave fight in Islamabad in extreme conditions to remove this regime. Zardari is under extreme pressure now. Chef Justice has also been encouraged and has taken the much delayed step of ordering the arrest of Prime Minister also. This is the moment to launch your own movement in support of the cause. Do not delay now. Launch immediately.

We may have many differences on strategy, policies and vision but we are common on one agenda -- remove this regime and bring about patriotic caretaker government which should reform the system and recover the state. We will deal about the elections later.

There is a complete political anarchy in Islamabad now. This is an unprecedented crisis. parliament is under siege and the entire government has fled. Constitution is silent on such a crisis. We have rejected the caretaker setup by the two political parties. Now the parliament is also under siege and government is incapacitated. This situation cannot continue indefinitely. Pakistan cannot remain without a government for long. The crisis must be resolved quickly and that needs a force multiplier.

Indians are waiting on their toes to exploit the power vacuum in Pakistan. If the political parties delay the resolution of the crisis, enemies would exploit our national security.

InshAllah Khair for Pak Sarzameen.

From ZH

something that Imran NEVER wanted. He wanted the people of Pakistan to use their vote as means of venting out their frustration not a protest in the streets. If Imran wanted he would have staged a 100 times larger march than this and removed the govt in a couple of hours. And Imran WAS planing for such a march ONLY and ONLY if there had been a rigid elections.
 
something that Imran NEVER wanted. He wanted the people of Pakistan to use their vote as means of venting out their frustration not a protest in the streets. If Imran wanted he would have staged a 100 times larger march than this and removed the govt in a couple of hours. And Imran WAS planing for such a march ONLY and ONLY if there had been a rigid elections.

Had been ?
What makes you so sure the elections aren't rigged ?
 
I make that 100,000 easily. It seems all of the main news sources are under estimating the numbers on purpose.
 
I make that 100,000 easily. It seems all of the main news sources are under estimating the numbers on purpose.

No most were saying it's 100 000 today.

The first speech had only around 50 thousand.


Rain in the coming days will effect this a lot but I don't see this going for more than 2 more days. Qadri has it all planned. He's in touch with the army and they're pressurizing SC.


Tomrrow will be his second half. His speeches seem fake for fure and he has some personal agenda of his but whatever it is, it's a headache for the government and that's a good thing.

I don't think PPP can use the sympathy card now. People are dumb but not that dumb
 
does it matter if there were 50,000 people or 100,000 people..a lot of people are just obsessed with numbers tbh
 
Depends on tonight really and also the weather
If tonight the government forces try and get rid of them and are battered I don't see them leaving until atleast Friday then .
 
yeah, i was thinking the same and all the embassies are in a protected area anyways..
perhaps they still open thursday or friday

i am all for protesting and stuff but this is really hurting many people !
 
yeah, i was thinking the same and all the embassies are in a protected area anyways..
perhaps they still open thursday or friday

i am all for protesting and stuff but this is really hurting many people !

i feel for you bro but its about time someone took a stance against these corrupt businessmen they aint politicians
 
something that Imran NEVER wanted. He wanted the people of Pakistan to use their vote as means of venting out their frustration not a protest in the streets. If Imran wanted he would have staged a 100 times larger march than this and removed the govt in a couple of hours. And Imran WAS planing for such a march ONLY and ONLY if there had been a rigid elections.

Then hes a lunatic.

..and no he or no one would have got something 100 times larger then this.
 
So Qadri still waiting for his demands be met...the drama slowly coming to end with loser mureeds walking back to where ever they came from.
 
So Qadri still waiting for his demands be met...the drama slowly coming to end with loser mureeds walking back to where ever they came from.

Great news. I hope it's true and this drama dies off ASAP.
 
So Qadri still waiting for his demands be met...the drama slowly coming to end with loser mureeds walking back to where ever they came from.

Again cheap shots at his mureeds
What did they ?
do beat you up
Your coming across as a pathetic moaning loser
Honestly even a blind man can see more than you
Take the glasses of hate off for a minute
I can't believe one human being can be so consistent in hating another
 
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Again cheap shots at his mureeds
What did they ?
do beat you up
Your coming across as a pathetic moaning loser
Honestly even a blind man can see more than you
Take the glasses of hate off for a minute
What are you Ahmedi ? or something
I can't believe one human being can be so consistent in hating another

Good one
 
Again cheap shots at his mureeds
What did they ?
do beat you up
Your coming across as a pathetic moaning loser
Honestly even a blind man can see more than you
Take the glasses of hate off for a minute
What are you Ahmedi ? or something
I can't believe one human being can be so consistent in hating another

You are a hypocrite. Telling people off for abusing someone, and then disrespecting Ahmedis at the same time. Shame on you.
 
You are a hypocrite. Telling people off for abusing someone, and then disrespecting Ahmedis at the same time. Shame on you.

Easy now I didn't say anything bad about about Ahmedis
I apologise if i offended anyone !
I shall edit my post
Also I have seen a lot of Ahmedis calling out and abusing TUQ so I jumped the gun but I guess I was wrong .
 
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So Qadri still waiting for his demands be met...the drama slowly coming to end with loser mureeds walking back to where ever they came from.

at least those mureeds don't behead and blow up innocent people..:moyo

..not to forget calling for destruction of holy sites of Makkah,attack shrines and other religion's worshiping places.
 
We plan and Allaah plans and Allaah is best planner of all, Alhamdulillah!

If Tahir is the man who will bring positive change in Pakistan, then we need to support him. It's good news that Pakistan has two leaders now, Tahir and Imran, and Insha'Allaah! Pakistan will be changed for better.

My prayer is with Tahir and Imran Khan. Pakistan Zindabad!
 
I understand the frustration of TUQ followers but sadly the facts are there to face. No hard feelings to you guys but I feel for the people who blindly follow a political, selfish and liar mullah and then suffer in this blind love.

@MRSN Full marks for the positives you listed.
 
I understand the frustration of TUQ followers but sadly the facts are there to face. No hard feelings to you guys but I feel for the people who blindly follow a political, selfish and liar mullah and then suffer in this blind love.

@MRSN Full marks for the positives you listed.

In the same way some blindly follow TUQ you blindly hate TUQ so your no better . Anyways mate your opinion is your opinion and your free to believe what you want all I ask is you respect the guy by not abusing him . Oh and stop using the word mullah as a derogatory term .
Peace
 
People supporting TUQ should understand that Imran is not in a position as yet to start protesting like TUQ. He has been asking for neutral setup and elections have not even been announced ye so how can he start protesting. Imran wants to contest election and has been working hard to ensure free and fair elections, TUQ on the other hand is NOT contesting elections and he can easily become a pressure group.

Let both Imran and TUQ work their own ways.
 
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