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England v Pakistan | 1st Test | Lord's | Jul 14-18, 2016 | Day 1

Wow....this has nothing to do with Pakistan playing well....but I died a little inside when Ali is rightfully being treated as the 3rd grade bowler he is.......what have our guys done......ban all those who gave wickets temporarily to Ali in 2014 or fine them heavily to teach them a lesson :facepalm:
 
Lol Cook should have just stuck to his policy of not bringing on Moeen. Look what happened lol.

Cook has been poor today with rotating the bowlers. Moeen should have bowled his quota earlier in the day. You know with the pacers tiring and wickets in hand Pakistan will look to score very quickly in the final session, and Cook's got no choice but to bowl his two weakest options today Moeen and Finn, in tandem.
 
Adel Rashid would have been a better option. Moen Ali is just not Test class.

Good to see England under the pump.

I don't think even Jimmy Anderson would have done much on this surface. He needs clouds too to be effective.
 
PLEASE God, if there's any justice in this world and if anyone deserves to be on the Lord's honours board its Misbah-ul-Haq.

I second that, that would be justice to his handwork at this age!!!
 
Shere e Pakistan Misbah- cant imagine a pedigreed thoroughbred like him is treated as a kaddu by some English Ozzie middle aged immigrant.
 
[MENTION=132916]Junaids[/MENTION]

Boss, for a 2nd myth buster - I still believe this game is simpler than you make it. I'll be more than happy to have my No. 8, 9, 10 & Jack like McGill, Chandra, Asif, Walshi or Mac if they can bowl like these bunch did. Tail whagging is built from top - not bottom.

Long way to go, but, if somehow PAK goes to say 363/6 at lunch tomorrow, with Berbi on his knees & one of Asad/Sarfu still there well set - I bet Wahab, Aamir, Yasir & Rahat is going to spank at least 125 in post lunch session.

Misbah for PM - Miah Sharif can do a Camaron .......

Take my words back bro misbah has shown guts i didnt think he would succeed, personally like him just went with stats lol he needs to stay till the end now can't throw it away need a daddy hundred and pak will be in a really good. Position to. Win the test
 
How did kohli get out to this luloo bowler hahahahahahahahahha

This is exactly what baffles me to be honest :O :O how did this phusadi bowler own Kohli in that series [MENTION=139664]street cricketer[/MENTION] [MENTION=134809]sensible-indian-fan[/MENTION] What exactly happened then ???
 
[MENTION=132916]Junaids[/MENTION]

Boss, for a 2nd myth buster - I still believe this game is simpler than you make it. I'll be more than happy to have my No. 8, 9, 10 & Jack like McGill, Chandra, Asif, Walshi or Mac if they can bowl like these bunch did. Tail whagging is built from top - not bottom.

Long way to go, but, if somehow PAK goes to say 363/6 at lunch tomorrow, with Berbi on his knees & one of Asad/Sarfu still there well set - I bet Wahab, Aamir, Yasir & Rahat is going to spank at least 125 in post lunch session.

Misbah for PM - Miah Sharif can do a Camaron .......

I rate him really highly as a poster but he's been getting a few predictions wrong. Both hafeez and Misbah did well today.
 
Cook has been poor today with rotating the bowlers. Moeen should have bowled his quota earlier in the day. You know with the pacers tiring and wickets in hand Pakistan will look to score very quickly in the final session, and Cook's got no choice but to bowl his two weakest options today Moeen and Finn, in tandem.

Yeah I was just joking around, but I agree could have bowled Moeen Ali earlier. Has no time to get in rhythm, bowling against a set Misbah and Asad, the former supreme against spin especially. I mean in all honesty I wouldn't have even picked Moeen, I would have gone with a specialist spinner and three pacers with Finn missing out.
 
Those who are surprised with my comment on Asad has no idea what it's like playing 1st time ever in England. Driving against down slop (I don't know how many knows here that Lord's has a ~3 metre slope across the wicket) at Lord's is a different proposition than hitting through the line on absolute LO belters.

Virat has many other qualities, like his temperament & placements, but I stand on my comment - hardly anyone drives better than Asad on top hand & PAK plays him at 6.
 
This is exactly what baffles me to be honest :O :O how did this phusadi bowler own Kohli in that series [MENTION=139664]street cricketer[/MENTION] [MENTION=134809]sensible-indian-fan[/MENTION] What exactly happened then ???

Unbelievable man totally unbelievable
 
This is exactly what baffles me to be honest :O :O how did this phusadi bowler own Kohli in that series [MENTION=139664]street cricketer[/MENTION] [MENTION=134809]sensible-indian-fan[/MENTION] What exactly happened then ???

It can happen , its cricket , not the best ball you bowl always get you a wicket
 
Congrats man, looks like they do hire zombies!

Thanks man! Sneaked in 2 hrs of sleep before I pulled an all nighter.

Congo. What job?

Congrats.. didn't you just start school?

What job? Congrats

Thanks guys, yeah I just started school, but I just finished my summer semester and passed cal 3 with an A alhamdulilah. Was sitting at home doing nothing, so thought I'd get a full time job for a month before the family and I go for vacation in Pakistan. It's some cell phone company, that deals with customer service and stuff, dunno much but I start training on Monday.
 
Pakistan should win this test series; it's a format they're strong at, like and have the experience to thrive. Amir, Yasir and Wahab is too strong of a bowling attack too: England have their work cut-out despite being at home.
 
Misbah doesn't need to keep on playing the reverse sweep he should just wait for moens bad balls
 
Where were those people saying Misbah and Younus are gone.

Where is everyone who was saying it's sad if youngsters aren't even better than Misbah or Younus? [MENTION=134608]Hawkeye[/MENTION]?

As I said, Test cricket is more forgiving for older batsmen.

That said, I won't put Misbah in Test only category. He always (and still) has ability to play all formats because he is a class batsman. His only limitation was stupid approach to limited overs.

He is still and will for two years be the best batsman in Pakistan.
 
It was Anderson effect. Kohli was low on confidence. Over attacked Ali. Not just him, even Rohit, Rahane all gifted wickets to Moen Ali by attacking him.

Same as the English batsmen attacking Ishant during that Lords test and throwing their wickets away. Payback in some ways.
 
if anyone deserves a century at Lords it's Misbah. He's played magnificently today I was one of the ones who said he would struggle in England and while it's still a long series to go it's a great start.

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Misbah needs to have 100 before new ball, so that whole focus in on one thing... Seeing it off

He has plenty of time... 6/7 overs
 
Misbah did struggle, but he put up all the hardwork and made it through the rough. He defo deserves a century here.
 
It can happen , its cricket , not the best ball you bowl always get you a wicket

Feel this is especially true with Finn and Moeen. So many times they've got wickets with poor/average balls. Still remember that five wicket haul he picked up in the ashes and I said it was the worst one I've seen and got attacked for it. He bowled terribly, let up all the pressure created by Broad and Anderson and then got wickets when Australia were purposely trying to tonk him to get a declaration.

Finn has talent but he isn't reliable enough. He goes through periods where he's looking really good, then a few tests later just falls off again. Moeen just isn't a good bowler, he's an opener playing down at 7, fufilling a specialist spinner's job. It's altogether pretty strange.
 
Pakistan need to aim for 400 at least. Lords is a notoriously good batting track that gets better on days 2 and 3 so we should make hay while the sun shines.

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Pakistan need to aim for 400 at least. Lords is a notoriously good batting track that gets better on days 2 and 3 so we should make hay while the sun shines.

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450+ is winning here. Mainly because Pakistan bowling is class and England batting while overall good has terrible starts and getting under pressure against class bowlers is not a great idea.
 
This is dilemma for England, they want to test the other three for new ball... Moeen will leak runs, Finn is off color...Pakistan could milk some runs here!!! - reach 275/290 before new ball... Which is very good scoring rate in 80 overs...
 
Hope Misbah gets a 100.

Nicest bloke he is.

Long way to go. 248/4 is good but by no means safe. Need 450 on this track so must keep continuing.
 
Shafiq looking totally composed out there....as I said this is that turnaround innings.

Actually he looks more assuring than Misbah
 
450+ is winning here. Mainly because Pakistan bowling is class and England batting while overall good has terrible starts and getting under pressure against class bowlers is not a great idea.
it depends on Amir if he is at his best we have a good chance . Wahab seems to be obsessed with banging it in and bowling short which doesn't help on English tracks. While Rahat is a lottery. Yasir will come into it on day 4 and 5 but we need to make sure we bat well enough to keep him in the game.

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[MENTION=132916]Junaids[/MENTION]

Boss, 3rd one. Can you recall - this PAK batting has the capability to reach 303/4 at the end of Day 1............?

I understand Jimmi is not there (Though that 303/4 was considering the absence of Jimmi), but ENG won't restrict PAK with this attack if they don't make PAK 70/5 after 25 overs; unless it's a green top (but then, PAK is not SRL, that ENG 'll get to 450 from 80/5 ........)
 
Now do you see why I talk about the 5th bowler a LOT?

Here lack of a good 5th bowler is killing England.

Good 5th bowlers do not come by every day......likes of Kallis etc are once in a generation players for a reason or in some other teams one of the 5 bowlers is more than a competent batsman or bowler.

Playing likes of Ali and Binny is always a big gamble,even though I think Ali has a good batting record in domestics
 
Same as the English batsmen attacking Ishant during that Lords test and throwing their wickets away. Payback in some ways.

The best part about that collapse was the comment of Bob Willis after the match: "There are more happy hookers in this England line-up than there are at Soho.":))
 
Cook punishing Finn.
'Mate you are rubbish today, so you bowl right before the new ball at the batsmen's rib cage
 
[MENTION=132916]Junaids[/MENTION]

Boss, 3rd one. Can you recall - this PAK batting has the capability to reach 303/4 at the end of Day 1............?

I understand Jimmi is not there (Though that 303/4 was considering the absence of Jimmi), but ENG won't restrict PAK with this attack if they don't make PAK 70/5 after 25 overs; unless it's a green top (but then, PAK is not SRL, that ENG 'll get to 450 from 80/5 ........)

Last time at lords England recovered from 100/7 to 400 plus I guess. You can't rule out the possibility.
 
Take my words back bro misbah has shown guts i didnt think he would succeed, personally like him just went with stats lol he needs to stay till the end now can't throw it away need a daddy hundred and pak will be in a really good. Position to. Win the test

He is a wonderful Character, last of the survivors of that 90s generation which had "balls" (not necessarily you need to show that ala Lala style). Shukar hai, we are in "modern & developed" era of Cricket, warna, MoHa would have been famous for his bowling, starting career 20 years back ..............
 
Now do you see why I talk about the 5th bowler a LOT?

Here lack of a good 5th bowler is killing England.

They have problem with 5, we may not have problem with 4... Quality and variety of bowlers matter... None of their bowlers can bowl with old ball and spinner is well useless... Where as we are better than most if not all teams in those two areas ;-)
 
Wouldn't be as much a problem if they had four good bowlers though. Finn having a stinker magnifies the impact of Moeen bowling poorly.

Would be bad but not this much if Finn did better.

Plus all 4 bowlers having a decent day isn't possible on tracks like these.
 
There are 90mph bowlers in England line up....no one has bowled short/bouncers to test Pak batsmen yet....hardly
 
Last time at lords England recovered from 100/7 to 400 plus I guess. You can't rule out the possibility.

Was that a Cricket match? ICC is stupid & spineless - otherwise that Test would have never stayed as an official game.
 
They have problem with 5, we may not have problem with 4... Quality and variety of bowlers matter... None of their bowlers can bowl with old ball and spinner is well useless... Where as we are better than most if not all teams in those two areas ;-)

If 4 bowlers are really really good then ok (aka Aus of 00s).

But Pakistan's bowling attack isn't really really good in these pitches.

I think you are overestimating Pakistan's bowling in these pitches (flat Lords).
 
Second new ball will be critical. Have got to survive until stumps, the platform is there for us to build on tomorrow.
 
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