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India v England | 1st Test | Rajkot | Nov 9-13, 2016 | Day 1

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We should've had then 5 down by now. These days if you're batting second, you need to pick up 4/5 wickets in the 1st session .
 
MMHS said:
Still, I'll say it actually proves my point.

Babar is a type of bowler who doesn't flight or turn much, he is a mean darter, who keeps pegging the batsmen & wait for them to miss one. That actually is not a spinner wicket bowling, rather dead slow wicket bowling - just keep things tight, choke runs & you miss, I hit.

Can you recall, I always say that the most difficult bowler to face in UAE will be Jaddu - he is the better version of Babar. Obviously, on a dry wicket under desert sun, without slightest of live or dead grass on it, spinners will get turn after 300 overs - but that's not sin track. It doesn't test batsman's spin playing capacity, rather it tests his patience & resistance to boredom. For spinners also, it doesn't test their bowling skills - loop, turn, drift or intelligence of setting up a batsman; rather it just tests their accuracy & endurance of bowling 35 overs in a day on tight line in desert.

Take the example of 2 wickets by Ash today - in UAE, that edge won't have ever carried to slips & that slider would have been so slow that probably Haseeb would have got the time to take his bat in line, despite beaten all end up & possibly an inside edge (even then, that bad pad won't have carried). To be honest, I like Test cricket just for the drama of it & the uncertainty of 3 results; otherwise, I probably won't have watched a single ball in UAE. You can notice that during ODI/T20 in UAE, I hardly post - just don't find any taste to watch such vulgar cricket.
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Don't think people are saying UAE is a good spin track or even a normal spin track.

Dead tracks are the ones where India-SL played in 90s (947 runs hehe), India Pak played in 2005...etc.
 
sensible-indian-fan said:
Don't think people are saying UAE is a good spin track or even a normal spin track.

Dead tracks are the ones where India-SL played in 90s (947 runs hehe), India Pak played in 2005...etc.
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Those wickets/grounds were at least batting favorable, could watch big scores & good shots. Along with dead slow & low wickets, add snail out field - it can't be a worse advertisement of cricket, in UAE. Unless it's a rank long-hop or half volley, you won't see a single boundary/good shot in UAE. Here king is Misbah, with his hoicks....
 
ENG needs a right hander at 5; may be Josh should replace Ducket. From 4 to 8 (Ansari), they have only one right hander; which is not going to work.
 
Ashwin still hasn't got it right.

Touch disappointed with his bowling.

The strategy for Root will only work if he doesn't go too full.

Will be fun if he gets it right but is taking a long while now.
 
Sidilicious said:
Doesn't the SG ball favour spinners a bit more? Wonder why BCB dont also use SG. They used Kookaboora against England.
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Probably, because BD domestics are played with Kookaburra as well.

Bangladesh cricket has most of the inputs taken from Aussies - FC system, coaching academies, groundsmen, youth program, support staff .... apart from the wickets, almost everything is a sort of copy from AUS. I think, long back BCB cracked a long-term contract with the supplier - even Dhaka Leagues Div 1 & 2 are played with Kookaburra balls.
 
aliasad1998 said:
Thank you for conveying my message. I wasn't saying it clearly enough. Huge myth that UAE wickets are spinners paradise on day 4 and 5. If I were a spinner I'd prefer to bowl on day 1 of this wicket than day 4 of a UAE wicket. This is why when I judge our bowlers I am not too harsh on them and judge them on how they are bowling in stead if how many wickets they are getting
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There is zero turn here, what are yo even talking about?
 
MMHS said:
Those wickets/grounds were at least batting favorable, could watch big scores & good shots. Along with dead slow & low wickets, add snail out field - it can't be a worse advertisement of cricket, in UAE. Unless it's a rank long-hop or half volley, you won't see a single boundary/good shot in UAE. Here king is Misbah, with his hoicks....
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Don't you worry, Misbah is about to add Australasia to his burgeoning empire.

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h/t [MENTION=56933]ElRaja[/MENTION] for the picture
 
This is really a good Test wicket. I think, this morning IND pacers bowled poor & the drops didn't help; but Poms balanced that out with a wrong call on DRS & two soft dismissals. But, this is a Test wicket, which'll keep everyone honest, even spectators. ENG can put another 107 to reach 243/4, India can get them 214/7 as well - either way, still the game is alive.

Fantastic Test wicket, if one is ready to apply with bat or hold on to chances.
 
Looked like he made it to me but they can't afford to make any mistakes like that on this tour, have to maintain focus at all times.
 
[MENTION=79064]MMHS[/MENTION] i know UAE pitches are one of the worst, but don't you think you are going a little OTT, basics of test cricket still works there and you have to play good cricket to win tests even in UAE.
 
Is this pitch going to break up and turn viciously from day 3 on wads?

If that's the case, India are stuffed.
 
Brilliant batting this by Joe Root. Showing his teammates there are no real demons in the pitch, who would've been haunted in Bangladesh by the sharp turn.

Moeen is a gritty customer, has great fight within him even if he doesn necessarily show it via expressions. India will want to see the back of him sooner rather than later, otherwise he could do some damage with the bat as he showed in England against Pakistan.
 
Zeshan547 said:
[MENTION=79064]MMHS[/MENTION] i know UAE pitches are one of the worst, but don't you think you are going a little OTT, basics of test cricket still works there and you have to play good cricket to win tests even in UAE.
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You see, any wicket will work - because the game is built on a competition between 2 teams scoring runs. It's not gymnastics that you score on your drills. But, for us spectators, why do we watch a game - one is support; even on a mud bed, I'll watch BD scoring 153/4 in 90 overs & stroll to a draw in 5 laborious day. But, apart from that, there is an aesthetic part of the game - the strokes, the bowling, the catching, the placement of shots, timing, swing, turn, slip catching ...... Which aspect is covered in those wickets? As I said, even if we play 10 Days Test with scores like 747, 726, 450 & 353 - still that's a good cricket match or if the scores are 134, 127, 91, 85 - still that's a good match.

The reason that I watch cricket, I don't find anything in UAE wickets - 80% wickets down to bowled or LBW; hardly any catch behind batsman; not a single on the rise shot, horizontal bat shot, no value for timing or placement (more pathetic is that in 10 overs time Captains are forced to put 4 men on line), nothing, absolutely nothing to watch, apart from the result of the game.
 
MMHS said:
This is really a good Test wicket. I think, this morning IND pacers bowled poor & the drops didn't help; but Poms balanced that out with a wrong call on DRS & two soft dismissals. But, this is a Test wicket, which'll keep everyone honest, even spectators. ENG can put another 107 to reach 243/4, India can get them 214/7 as well - either way, still the game is alive.

Fantastic Test wicket, if one is ready to apply with bat or hold on to chances.
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They bowled pretty well. Created 3 chances in 6 overs and went past the edge multiple times.
 
Moeen MUST attack Mishra - if next 3 lefties don't go after him, he'll settle into nice rhythm & that'll be the end of the match. I think, Virat's weapons are Ash-Mish in 1st innings & Ash-Jad on 2nd.
 
anindo said:
They bowled pretty well. Created 3 chances in 6 overs and went past the edge multiple times.
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They bowled poorly, trust me - those catches were incompetence of batsmen - poked at 12th stick ball in 1st 3 overs of the day. With new ball, in 10 overs, there were not even 10 balls which batsmen had to play. This is not what is called new ball bowling.
 
Incredible batting depth England has, I know it has been said before but just realized Rashid averages about 35 in first class cricket with the bat, 10 hundreds!!! :O
 
India light on batting.

If England put on 400+, they'll be in a good position to win.
 
I called it when the game started. If England's spinners bowl well they will win this game
 
Suleiman said:
Incredible batting depth England has, I know it has been said before but just realized Rashid averages about 35 in first class cricket with the bat, 10 hundreds!!! :O
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Yep, they would be good if the top order could bat !
 
Root playing beautifully. He wants to score off every delivery which is the right bing to do here
 
Robert said:
Yep, they would be good if the top order could bat !
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True lol, but I guess it all (gary) balances out with the good batting depth. Still think Cook will come good this series.
 
Poor field settings.

How can you give away so many singles ??

It's not an ODI - batsman should earn their runs or hit good shots for boundaries.
 
Get the field up for both Moeen and Root (make him work for that 100).
 
A wicket-less session - now, I think IND desperately needs a wicket. If one of these 2 can end the day not out, that tail will come into play.
 
England is control. Tough task for India now to contain England.
 
This has been a very eventful day.

Trump is to England what Hillary is to India. Everybody thought England would just roll over and it was just formalities for India to take care of. But instead India and Hillary have been left with a bloodied nose today.:srini
 
street cricketer said:
This has been a very eventful day.

Trump is to England what Hillary is to India. Everybody thought England would just roll over and it was just formalities for India to take care of. But instead India and Hillary have been left with a bloodied nose today.:srini
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Where is that how do you think England will do thread, I didn't predict they would get rolled over
 
MMHS said:
A wicket-less session - now, I think IND desperately needs a wicket. If one of these 2 can end the day not out, that tail will come into play.
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India will still win, I have a feeling Kohli will score a double ton, he wants to take badla for the previous English series.
 
Root reconfirms his status as the number one Test batsman in the world.
 
This has been a phenomenal partnership for England, match defining.

India are well and truly stuffed if the wicket starts to break up and the cracks start to widen late tomorrow or day after tomorrow. Overall it's been a fantastic day for England and a great start to the test series for them.
 
Dare I say Haseeb has a lot to do with England's performance? Pakistan were a different team in England once Sami Aslam replaced those rabbits - Shan and Hafeez.
 
Moeen Ali's batting has come a long way since that Lords Test against Pakistan. He looks a proper frontline batsman now.
 
90MPH said:
:yk2

Really ?
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Yes. It takes some serious skill to perform like this one day of the series, against bowlers who have their tails up and whom he has not faced in a long, long time.

Could have pulled a Younis and clowned around in embarrassing fashion till the last Test and letting the other players do the hard yards meanwhile, but the truly great players lead the charge from the front.
 
India is developing a mental block against England, who seem to have their number.
 
Okay, England are pressing on the pedal big time here.

India will find it hard to make a comeback in this match unless something happens out of the blue here. The pitch looks good to bat on, but India are light on batting and you never know when it will start to break down. England pacers will fancy their chances too as the ball was reversing for Malcolm Yadav.
 
Pretty sure we'll have a rank turner in the next match after watching how England have played here lol
 
So this is what happens when India lose a toss :yk2

Looking forward to seeing them bat last.

Ashwin and Jadeja have gotten exposed big time. Only going to get worse for them when them tour abroad.
 
Mamoon said:
India is developing a mental block against England, who seem to have their number.
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Lmao it's so frustrating.. These guys start losing their heads whenever they see England in the opposition.:yk

Perhaps the scars run deeper than we thought.
 
England have batted solidly today and with stokes and Bairstow to come still 450-500 should be on the cards here.
 
Would be awesome if England bat two days to pile on the pain.
 
Oh man, one side is going to be FURIOUS no matter what the decision is here :)))
 
Massive wicket that for India so late in the day.. makes game very balanced now.
 
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