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KingKhanWC said:
I’d change your crystal ball now . It’s all when /if . VVD has 2 pl and 1 cl . 2nd in ballondor, regarded as pl legend. . Saliba has a lot to achieve , he’s won nothing so far and will likely leave Arsenal if Arteta fails again. Don’t watch 2 min highlights, numerous times Saliba was taken apart by opposition attackers last season . Even most Arsenal see him as 2nd best to the Brazilian you have .
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I don’t need to watch 2 min highlights as I watched almost all the PL matches. He was not at his best last season but he is still a world class CB with a higher ceiling than VVD.
 
Mamoon said:
I know it is very difficult for rival fans to accept that Arsenal have signed the deadliest striker in Europe, especially those fans whose club begged him to join but they got rejected 7 times in the same window.

The argument that Gyokeres has only looked good due to Portuguese league defenders would have had some weight if he hadn't scored in the UCL including a hat-trick vs City and wasn't the top scorer in the Nations League. He dominates every competition and therefore the argument that he is decent and best and made to look amazing due to Portuguese league is absolutely rubbish.

Isak is not superior at all. In fact, Isak is not even in the same class. Gyokeres will blow him out of the water in the PL just like he has blown him out of the water for Sweden.

However, as I said, this is exactly what I want. I want rival fans to underestimate him, because it means that the humbling will be way more satisfying.
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No one's underestimated him. When you spout your usual he's better than isak he's on a par with Mbappe, Haaland, kane, is when YOU cant be taken seriously.
 
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aboveandbeyond said:
No one's underestimated him. When you spout your usual he's better than isak he's on a par with Mbappe, Haaland, kane, is when YOU cant be taken seriously.
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What are your thoughts on the combination of Gyokeres and Noni Madueke? What do you predict?
 
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LordJames said:
What are your thoughts on the combination of Gyokeres and Noni Madueke? What do you predict?
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No doubting Gyokeres potential. He could well be the missing link Gooners where craving for to lead them to the title.

As for Madueke i definitely see Potential there. His one on one skill set is quality which is key to unblock low blocks.
However, like all young players, he can be inconsistent. But I do rate him.
 
aboveandbeyond said:
No doubting Gyokeres potential. He could well be the missing link Gooners where craving for to lead them to the title.

As for Madueke i definitely see Potential there. His one on one skill set is quality which is key to unblock low blocks.
However, like all young players, he can be inconsistent. But I do rate him.
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Been waiting a longtime for the title, FA cup is not enough.
 
aboveandbeyond said:
No one's underestimated him. When you spout your usual he's better than isak he's on a par with Mbappe, Haaland, kane, is when YOU cant be taken seriously.
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There is nothing in Isak’s game that makes him superior to Gyokeres. Gyokeres has overshadowed him in every comp they have played together including the Sweden national team, and same will be the case in the PL.

Mbappe is the only one who is clearly better than him. He is equally prolific as Kane and is at the same level in terms of overall play. He is also equally prolific as Haaland but much better in terms of overall play.

My rankings for the best strikers in the world as of today is the following:

1. Mbappe
2. Gyokeres/Kane
3. Haaland
4. Lewandowski

Lewandowski would be top 2 but he is very old now and past his prime, although he is still fantastic.

Not sure who is inviting Isak to the table. He is not in this league. He doesn’t have the caliber to score 40+ goals like these guys and he is also built like a twig due to which he is very injury prone.

Isak is a level below this class and is alongside strikers like Lautaro Martinez, Alvarez, Marmoush.
 
Mamoon said:
I don’t need to watch 2 min highlights as I watched almost all the PL matches. He was not at his best last season but he is still a world class CB with a higher ceiling than VVD.
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Saliba could hardly run at times , he was poor last season and must improve as Arsenal need a trophy or he could be known as empty handed like his manager . I think he should go to Real .
 
KingKhanWC said:
Saliba could hardly run at times , he was poor last season and must improve as Arsenal need a trophy or he could be known as empty handed like his manager . I think he should go to Real .
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Saliba wants to stay and win things with Arsenal. That is why he is signing a new contract. He knows that if he leaves Arsenal before he wins the league, he will not be remembered by the fans.

You should be more worried about Konate, who seems to be keen in joining Trent and moving to Real. Looks like Liverpool has become the feeder club for Real.
 
Mamoon said:
Saliba wants to stay and win things with Arsenal. That is why he is signing a new contract. He knows that if he leaves Arsenal before he wins the league, he will not be remembered by the fans.

You should be more worried about Konate, who seems to be keen in joining Trent and moving to Real. Looks like Liverpool has become the feeder club for Real.
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Saliba wants to win , he won’t continue if you don’t win PL or CL this season. Trent and Konate won everything, their aim is money which is next after winning. Arsenals greatest ever player Henry had to leave Arsenal for Barcelona to win the CL . Liverpool don’t have this issue with its stars.
 
KingKhanWC said:
Saliba wants to win , he won’t continue if you don’t win PL or CL this season. Trent and Konate won everything, their aim is money which is next after winning. Arsenals greatest ever player Henry had to leave Arsenal for Barcelona to win the CL . Liverpool don’t have this issue with its stars.
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If this is the lie that Liverpool fans are telling themselves to make themselves feel better about Trent and potentially Konate as well, it is not a good one.

If Trent wanted to go for money, he would have gone to Saudi or MLS. Trent is going because playing for Liverpool is not the same as playing for Madrid.

When Madrid knocks on your door and you don’t open, you will regret it one day. Trent has also seen the impact playing for Real has had on his boyfriend Bellingham, and he wants to experience it too. It has nothing to do with money.

This applies to Konate as well, who wants to be remembered as a Real Madrid player not a Liverpool player.

Sooner or later, Saliba will go too. Arsenal fans have accepted this. If Real want an Arsenal or Liverpool player, they will eventually have him.

I am hopeful that they will handle it much better and will not fumble the situation like Liverpool did with Trent, ultimately losing him out for only £10m which was a kick in the teeth.

Saliba contract expires in 2027 and Madrid want to do another Trent and sign him for free.

Arsenal must not let that situation happen. He either needs to sign a contract extension or he should be listed for transfer next summer.
 
Mamoon said:
Sooner or later, Saliba will go too. Arsenal fans have accepted this. If Real want an Arsenal or Liverpool player, they will eventually have him.

I am hopeful that they will handle it much better and will not fumble the situation like Liverpool did with Trent, ultimately losing him out for only £10m which was a kick in the teeth.

Saliba contract expires in 2027 and Madrid want to do another Trent and sign him for free.

Arsenal must not let that situation happen. He either needs to sign a contract extension or he should be listed for transfer next summer.
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Real Madrid recently tried to sign MLS but he ended up extending his contract. Thierry Henry turned down Madrid when he was at the peak of his powers.

I hope Saliba will extend his contract but yes I agree if he doesn't, sell him next summer and let's hope Mosquera is ready to step up.
 
Liverpool remember Jota before first Anfield game

Liverpool paid tribute to Diogo Jota in their first match at Anfield since the late forward's death.

The 28-year-old Portugal international died in a car crash in Spain along with his brother Andre Silva, 25, in July.

The Reds played Athletic Bilbao in a double header of pre-season friendlies on Monday, with games at 17:00 and 20:00 BST.

Liverpool legend Phil Thomson and Athletic president Jon Uriarte brought wreaths out on to the pitch and laid them on the edge of the six-yard box before the opening game.

The billboards around Anfield read 'Rest in Peace Diogo Jota and Andre Silva - You'll Never Walk Alone', while fans sang about Jota.

Reds supporters also held up flags and banners remembering their number 20 - a number that has been retired by the club this summer.

Both sets of players, coaches and fans applauded as both games were stopped in the 20th minute.

Jota scored 65 goals in 182 appearances for the Reds, helping them win the Premier League, FA Cup and League Cup, following his arrival from Wolves in 2020.



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Diogo Jota: Liverpool remember late Portugal forward before first Anfield game

Liverpool pay tribute to late forward Diogo Jota in their first match at Anfield since his death.
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Result was not important but the link up play of Salah and Wirtz already looks incredible. Liverpool seem like we will be break last seasons goals.
 
Mamoon said:
If this is the lie that Liverpool fans are telling themselves to make themselves feel better about Trent and potentially Konate as well, it is not a good one.

If Trent wanted to go for money, he would have gone to Saudi or MLS. Trent is going because playing for Liverpool is not the same as playing for Madrid.

When Madrid knocks on your door and you don’t open, you will regret it one day. Trent has also seen the impact playing for Real has had on his boyfriend Bellingham, and he wants to experience it too. It has nothing to do with money.

This applies to Konate as well, who wants to be remembered as a Real Madrid player not a Liverpool player.

Sooner or later, Saliba will go too. Arsenal fans have accepted this. If Real want an Arsenal or Liverpool player, they will eventually have him.

I am hopeful that they will handle it much better and will not fumble the situation like Liverpool did with Trent, ultimately losing him out for only £10m which was a kick in the teeth.

Saliba contract expires in 2027 and Madrid want to do another Trent and sign him for free.

Arsenal must not let that situation happen. He either needs to sign a contract extension or he should be listed for transfer next summer.
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LFC have improved from a title winning team. Its really for teams who bottle it or come up short to worry about improving the squad in ever area of the pitch. Liverpool is the most attractive team for players in the PL right now. Players will leave but better ones will arrive.
 
KingKhanWC said:
LFC have improved from a title winning team. Its really for teams who bottle it or come up short to worry about improving the squad in ever area of the pitch. Liverpool is the most attractive team for players in the PL right now. Players will leave but better ones will arrive.
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That remains to be seen because IMO you have made too many changes too quickly and if it doesn’t work out, Slot will be blamed for flogging a running horse and getting too excited with all the new money John Bin Henry found under his bed.
 
Mamoon said:
That remains to be seen because IMO you have made too many changes too quickly and if it doesn’t work out, Slot will be blamed for flogging a running horse and getting too excited with all the new money John Bin Henry found under his bed.
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Not at all, we spent nothing 12 months ago. We replaced both full backs and replaced a striker, adding Wirtz who is a future potential great. LFC actually need to spend more yet, another CB and another winger would be nice.

Liverpool are aiming for history this season, its not going to be easy but 21 League Titles it what matters to this club.
 
Darwin Nunez is off to Al Hilal. Best of luck to him, wasnt meant to be at LFC but he scored some very important goals in his time here.
 
KingKhanWC said:
Darwin Nunez is off to Al Hilal. Best of luck to him, wasnt meant to be at LFC but he scored some very important goals in his time here.
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Probably the worst signing in Liverpool history, especially considering the price. Absolutely terrible move by Klopp. No wonder John Bin Henry didn’t trust him with money after that.

His talent ID was always poor, he also wanted Brandt over Salah in 2017 but the club overruled him.
 
Mamoon said:
Probably the worst signing in Liverpool history, especially considering the price. Absolutely terrible move by Klopp. No wonder John Bin Henry didn’t trust him with money after that.

His talent ID was always poor, he also wanted Brandt over Salah in 2017 but the club overruled him.
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Its always a risk buying from the Portuguese league :wenger

Imo he is a huge talent, the pressure of of playing for LFC got to him a little. Im sure he will score plenty for Al Hilal and will do well in the World Cup for his national team. Its a shame, he has it all to be a great striker , still young enough to achieve this.
 
I hope we sign a CB and Malick Fofana, and call it a day. Isak can wait until January or next summer.

Signing a player with a history of muscle injuries to come in without a proper pre-season is a bit risky. Doesn't look like Newcastle are capable of finding a replacement either.

Worth remembering Coutinho and VVD didn't get their big moves until the following window.
 
KingKhanWC said:
Its always a risk buying from the Portuguese league :wenger

Imo he is a huge talent, the pressure of of playing for LFC got to him a little. Im sure he will score plenty for Al Hilal and will do well in the World Cup for his national team. Its a shame, he has it all to be a great striker , still young enough to achieve this.
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There is no risk associated with buying anyone from a particular league. The only thing matters is the player profile. A certain Cristiano Ronaldo was also signed from Portugese League, and Dortmund signed Haaland when he was in Austria, a weaker league than Portugal.

Darwin scored more in Portugal than he did in England but his scoring rate wasn't insane like VG. He must have been wasteful there too, so it was an error of judgment by Klopp and Liverpool are paying the price for it now, by making a heavy loss on him.

He might be talented but he is thick as a plank, this is why no one in Europe wants to take a chance with him even though Liverpool were offering him at a discounted price.
 
Mamoon said:
There is no risk associated with buying anyone from a particular league. The only thing matters is the player profile. A certain Cristiano Ronaldo was also signed from Portugese League, and Dortmund signed Haaland when he was in Austria, a weaker league than Portugal.

Darwin scored more in Portugal than he did in England but his scoring rate wasn't insane like VG. He must have been wasteful there too, so it was an error of judgment by Klopp and Liverpool are paying the price for it now, by making a heavy loss on him.

He might be talented but he is thick as a plank, this is why no one in Europe wants to take a chance with him even though Liverpool were offering him at a discounted price.
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Ronaldo and Haaland were child child prodigies, bit of a daft comparison. lol. The Portugal league is way below the level of the PL, hence why Gyokeres couldnt find a big club in England, so went over there to improve himself, which he has but is no CR7 as you think he is lol.

Liverpool didnt lose at all with Nunez, a big fee for sale while he scored big goals too. Nunez outscored Havertz two seasons ago and although I havent checked is prob close or above him last season too. Nunez was a potential great talent, but didnt work out. Liverpool have done better than most teams, the amount of donkeys bought by Arteta, he could open his own zoo in North London.
 
Markhor said:
I hope we sign a CB and Malick Fofana, and call it a day. Isak can wait until January or next summer.

Signing a player with a history of muscle injuries to come in without a proper pre-season is a bit risky. Doesn't look like Newcastle are capable of finding a replacement either.

Worth remembering Coutinho and VVD didn't get their big moves until the following window.
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A CB is a must imo, we cannot rely on Konate and VVD. I assumed this was a priority so unless we are unaware of a target, something needs to be done. After this the squad is set up nicely
 
FA Community Shield: Ngumoha unused sub as Liverpool lose to Crystal Palace on penalties

Liverpool's teenager sensation Rio Ngumoha was an unused substitute as the Reds failed to claim their first silverware of the 2025/26 season, losing the 2025 Community Shield at Wembley Stadium on Sunday afternoon.

The match ended 2-2 after ninety minutes, with Crystal Palace eventually triumphing 3-2 in the penalty shootout to secure the victory.

New signings Hugo Ekitike and Jeremie Frimpong were on target for the Reds, while Jean-Philippe Mateta and Ismaïla Sarr netted for the Eagles.

Ngumoha joined Liverpool from Chelsea last summer and has quickly made an impression during pre-season ahead of the 2025/2026 campaign.

The young forward showcased his blistering pace, direct dribbling, and clinical finishing throughout the club's summer friendlies, scoring against Stoke City, Yokohama F. Marinos, and Athletic Bilbao.

His performances caught the eye of manager Arne Slot, who rewarded the teenager with a place on the bench for the season's curtain-raiser.

Although Ngumoha failed to make his first competitive appearance against an English top-flight team, his inclusion signals the faith Liverpool's coaching staff have in his potential.

With the 2025/26 campaign ahead, the highly rated youngster will be aiming to build on his pre-season form and force his way into the senior side.
 
Liverpool have looked woeful defensive all pre-season and that should be a concern for slot. They definitely need to sign another defender. Otherwise they are going to have to depend on outscoring teams in high scoring games.

At other end they do need another striker as well.

If Liverpool go into season with squad as it is, then Man city, Chelsea and Arsenal have a chance in title race to pick them off.

Wirtz looked excellent and ekitike scored a good goal, but was also wasteful
 
Markhor said:
I hope we sign a CB and Malick Fofana, and call it a day. Isak can wait until January or next summer.

Signing a player with a history of muscle injuries to come in without a proper pre-season is a bit risky. Doesn't look like Newcastle are capable of finding a replacement either.

Worth remembering Coutinho and VVD didn't get their big moves until the following window.
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You definitely need another CB, Gheui would be prefer signing. I think with extra creativity going forward in the team, Liverpool will lose some defensive stability. That balance will need to be addressed
 
Amjid Javed said:
You definitely need another CB, Gheui would be prefer signing. I think with extra creativity going forward in the team, Liverpool will lose some defensive stability. That balance will need to be addressed
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Yeah we looked unbelievable going forward today but shaky defensively.

I thought the FBs and Konate were fine, but VVD made mistakes for both goals. Szobo was sloppy in possession in the 2nd Half and unsuited to playing as a 6. Endo was ineffectual.

We missed Gravenberch and a fully fit MacAllister - they put out so many fires. However Gravenberch will miss the first game vs Bournemouth due to suspension.

The club want Guehi but don't want to pay over the odds as he's in his final year of his contract, and could land him on a free next summer. However he's a leader, in the right age bracket, and PL proven. Given Gomez's constant injuries, we may have to bite the bullet.
 
Wirtz first half and his chemistry with Ekitike was a hugh Plus point for Liverpool, they were Top Quality.
 
Markhor said:
Yeah we looked unbelievable going forward today but shaky defensively.

I thought the FBs and Konate were fine, but VVD made mistakes for both goals. Szobo was sloppy in possession in the 2nd Half and unsuited to playing as a 6. Endo was ineffectual.

We missed Gravenberch and a fully fit MacAllister - they put out so many fires. However Gravenberch will miss the first game vs Bournemouth due to suspension.

The club want Guehi but don't want to pay over the odds as he's in his final year of his contract, and could land him on a free next summer. However he's a leader, in the right age bracket, and PL proven. Given Gomez's constant injuries, we may have to bite the bullet.
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Going into a season with just VVD, konate, gomez would be very risky. Espcially with you wanting to compete on all fronts. Palace are looking to sell Guehi, as he won't sign a new contract, so you more than likely will have to pay over odds. There aren't many other PL ready proven CB available at moment.

I think your midfielder during season will be fine, but you definitely need to isak or someone else, otherwise the lack of depth up front will show if you have just salah, ekitike and gapko.

I imagine slot is asking for atleast 2 if not 3 players before TW shuts.
 
Realistically, 2 signings should be sufficient, Rio is ready to spell some time at LW, Gakpo is versatile, as are Ekitike and Wirtz.

Definitely need another number 9 and a good 3rd CB option.
 
Clubs buy success, Liverpool are buying failure 🤣

They ruined a perfectly fine team by overspending. They have bought too many shiny new toys and the team lacked cohesion.
 
Mamoon said:
Clubs buy success, Liverpool are buying failure 🤣

They ruined a perfectly fine team by overspending. They have bought too many shiny new toys and the team lacked cohesion.
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Nonsense.

It is better being proactive rather than sitting on laurels.

New fullback pairing long overdue.

Wirtz, genuine superstar potential and leading player- if you have the chance- you go for it, he fits the system also.

Weakness was the no9- you go out and get Ekitike, had Jota not passed away, that would have sufficed.

Diaz being moved one- 28, almost 29, always advtangeous to look at the financials- good offer, he served the club well but a good sale.

Another forward and a CB, that will sure things up.

The only move I would regret is the sale of Quansah but he is going to get serious gametime and there is a buyback option.

I want Elliott to stay also- only sold if needed for Isak.
 
GOSH11 said:
Nonsense.

It is better being proactive rather than sitting on laurels.

New fullback pairing long overdue.

Wirtz, genuine superstar potential and leading player- if you have the chance- you go for it, he fits the system also.

Weakness was the no9- you go out and get Ekitike, had Jota not passed away, that would have sufficed.

Diaz being moved one- 28, almost 29, always advtangeous to look at the financials- good offer, he served the club well but a good sale.

Another forward and a CB, that will sure things up.

The only move I would regret is the sale of Quansah but he is going to get serious gametime and there is a buyback option.

I want Elliott to stay also- only sold if needed for Isak.
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John Bin Henry is getting too excited with the oil well that he has found underneath Anfield. My assessment is that Liverpool have made too many changes this summer and it will backfire this summer.

It will only get worse if they get their hands on Isak. There is no way you can fit him, Salah, Ekitike and Wirtz in the same XI without disrupting the balance of the team, and if you put any of them on the bench, you disrupt the harmony of the team.

I really don’t think Liverpool would have signed Ekitike if they were confident they would land Isak. He was an alternative option.

However, Liverpool folded very quickly and very easily when Newcastle told them he isn’t for sale. They immediately pivoted to Ekitike and signed him very quickly before Isak handed in a transfer request.

It was an error of judgement by Liverpool. They didn’t expect Isak to hand in a transfer request.

Had they known, they wouldn’t have dropped £70m+ on their second choice striker.
 
Markhor said:
Yeah we looked unbelievable going forward today but shaky defensively.

I thought the FBs and Konate were fine, but VVD made mistakes for both goals. Szobo was sloppy in possession in the 2nd Half and unsuited to playing as a 6. Endo was ineffectual.

We missed Gravenberch and a fully fit MacAllister - they put out so many fires. However Gravenberch will miss the first game vs Bournemouth due to suspension.

The club want Guehi but don't want to pay over the odds as he's in his final year of his contract, and could land him on a free next summer. However he's a leader, in the right age bracket, and PL proven. Given Gomez's constant injuries, we may have to bite the bullet.
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Crystal Palace have a very good attacking line up, well organised and difficult to break down. For them this was another chance at Wembley glory, hence their energy in the 80th min pressing hard and tackling hard.

For Liverpool it was more match fitness, looking to gel so many new players. There were many positives esp from the new players, Wirtz is sublime, he's control, passing and movement is expectational even for his age. Ekitike was also flowing nicely, scoring a lovely goal.

Its a charity game, the trophy is not a real trophy so no issue losing it, but the outing was key for LFC.

It will take a few games for the new players to gel with the older ones but imo once this team finds its feet, it will be a difficult team to beat.

Friday v Bournemouth at home you will see a different Liverpool.
 
KingKhanWC said:
Crystal Palace have a very good attacking line up, well organised and difficult to break down. For them this was another chance at Wembley glory, hence their energy in the 80th min pressing hard and tackling hard.

For Liverpool it was more match fitness, looking to gel so many new players. There were many positives esp from the new players, Wirtz is sublime, he's control, passing and movement is expectational even for his age. Ekitike was also flowing nicely, scoring a lovely goal.

Its a charity game, the trophy is not a real trophy so no issue losing it, but the outing was key for LFC.

It will take a few games for the new players to gel with the older ones but imo once this team finds its feet, it will be a difficult team to beat.

Friday v Bournemouth at home you will see a different Liverpool.
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Try telling that to Arteta, he counts it as a real trophy that he has won :ROFLMAO:
 
IronShield said:
Try telling that to Arteta, he counts it as a real trophy that he has won :ROFLMAO:
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Yes according to Michael, he has won 3 trophies inc 2 shields lol.

Arsenal are due at Anfield this month, it will be a good chance for them to finally win at Anfield. LFC need their new players to get quickly, if they do it should be 3 points against the greatest charity shield manager of all time.
 
KingKhanWC said:
Yes according to Michael, he has won 3 trophies inc 2 shields lol.

Arsenal are due at Anfield this month, it will be a good chance for them to finally win at Anfield. LFC need their new players to get quickly, if they do it should be 3 points against the greatest charity shield manager of all time.
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Once Grav comes back into the No.6 position, much of the defensive issues will be sorted. The pace at left and right back positions is scary!!
 
The Community Shield is a domestic trophy. It’s the first official match of the English football season.

If the Community Shield equivalent in Spain, Italy, Germany and France can be considered a trophy, why not the CS?

Absolute nonsense.
 
KingKhanWC said:
Yes according to Michael, he has won 3 trophies inc 2 shields lol.

Arsenal are due at Anfield this month, it will be a good chance for them to finally win at Anfield. LFC need their new players to get quickly, if they do it should be 3 points against the greatest charity shield manager of all time.
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Liverpool are clueless when it comes to beating Arsenal in the PL. It has been over three years since they last took 3 points off Arsenal. Let’s see if their fortune changes this time around.
 
Mamoon said:
Liverpool are clueless when it comes to beating Arsenal in the PL. It has been over three years since they last took 3 points off Arsenal. Let’s see if their fortune changes this time around.
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Michael Arteta is the greatest shield manager this decade 🤣
 
Mamoon said:
The Community Shield is a domestic trophy. It’s the first official match of the English football season.

If the Community Shield equivalent in Spain, Italy, Germany and France can be considered a trophy, why not the CS?

Absolute nonsense.
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The community shield is not a proper trophy

It's a glorified friendly

What other countries do is irrelevant, in this country it's never been considered a proper trophy
 
Mamoon said:
The Community Shield is a domestic trophy. It’s the first official match of the English football season.

If the Community Shield equivalent in Spain, Italy, Germany and France can be considered a trophy, why not the CS?

Absolute nonsense.
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This is the champions wall outside Anfield . We don’t count those , there is no need . Arteta can have his glory
 
Geordie Ahmed said:
The community shield is not a proper trophy

It's a glorified friendly

What other countries do is irrelevant, in this country it's never been considered a proper trophy
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KingKhanWC said:
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This is the champions wall outside Anfield . We don’t count those , there is no need . Arteta can have his glory
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GOSH11 said:
Spot on- Mamoon is trying too hard.... football he just doesn't get
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@Geordie Ahmed

There is no such thing as a proper or improper trophy. The CS is an official FA competition. There is a match, there is a winner and there is a trophy/shield lifted. Therefore, it’s a trophy and counts as honours won.

@KingKhanWC

This is hilarious because Liverpool considered it as a trophy won. They are listed in the honours section on the website.

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Liverpool FC is one of the world's most successful football clubs with 52 major men's honours.
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“The Reds have got their hands on 16 Charity/Community Shields over the years, either winning the trophy outright or, as used to be the case, sharing it with another team following a draw.”

@GOSH11

You don’t know anything about football and I have proved it above.
 
Whether the CS is a trophy or not a trophy is not up for debate. It is a trophy because it counts as honours won.

The only question is where does it rank in comparison to other trophies? The answer is easy - it ranks the lowest, and therefore, it makes sense why it is not featured on the champions wall etc., but just because it’s the least significant trophy available for a PL club doesn’t mean it’s not a trophy. It definitely is.

Personal opinions of the fans do not matter.
 
Geordie Ahmed said:
The community shield is not a proper trophy

It's a glorified friendly

What other countries do is irrelevant, in this country it's never been considered a proper trophy
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🤣🤣 your trying to explain to someone with zero ball knowledge.

This is a guy that was counting goals in Emirates Cup as official goals for Arsenal
 
Mamoon said:
@Geordie Ahmed

There is no such thing as a proper or improper trophy. The CS is an official FA competition. There is a match, there is a winner and there is a trophy/shield lifted. Therefore, it’s a trophy and counts as honours won.

@KingKhanWC

This is hilarious because Liverpool considered it as a trophy won. They are listed in the honours section on the website.

Liverpool FC — Honours

Liverpool FC is one of the world's most successful football clubs with 52 major men's honours.
www.liverpoolfc.com www.liverpoolfc.com

“The Reds have got their hands on 16 Charity/Community Shields over the years, either winning the trophy outright or, as used to be the case, sharing it with another team following a draw.”

@GOSH11

You don’t know anything about football and I have proved it above.
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That’s information it’s not considered a real trophy when it’s not on the wall . It gives a clue in the text , shared multiple times , hence a friendly charity game nobody cares for the trophy apart from Michael
 
Mamoon said:
@Geordie Ahmed

There is no such thing as a proper or improper trophy. The CS is an official FA competition. There is a match, there is a winner and there is a trophy/shield lifted. Therefore, it’s a trophy and counts as honours won.

@KingKhanWC

This is hilarious because Liverpool considered it as a trophy won. They are listed in the honours section on the website.

Liverpool FC — Honours

Liverpool FC is one of the world's most successful football clubs with 52 major men's honours.
www.liverpoolfc.com www.liverpoolfc.com

“The Reds have got their hands on 16 Charity/Community Shields over the years, either winning the trophy outright or, as used to be the case, sharing it with another team following a draw.”

@GOSH11

You don’t know anything about football and I have proved it above.
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I don't know if you actually believe what you are saying or this is just a demonstration where being from another country highlights you don't understand it

Most half knowledgeable football fans could name the winners of all the proper competitions but they'd struggle to name who has won the charity/community shield because quite frankly it's deemed irrelevant
 
Mamoon said:
Whether the CS is a trophy or not a trophy is not up for debate. It is a trophy because it counts as honours won.

The only question is where does it rank in comparison to other trophies? The answer is easy - it ranks the lowest, and therefore, it makes sense why it is not featured on the champions wall etc., but just because it’s the least significant trophy available for a PL club doesn’t mean it’s not a trophy. It definitely is.

Personal opinions of the fans do not matter.
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Genuinely, you have no idea about football- especially English football! That becomes clearer and clearer....

If, as you say- you're an Arsenal fan, at the very least- try and get an understanding of the game, time and time again, you make foolish judgements based on YT highlight reels or EAFC etc. Laughable!
 
Geordie Ahmed said:
I don't know if you actually believe what you are saying or this is just a demonstration where being from another country highlights you don't understand it

Most half knowledgeable football fans could name the winners of all the proper competitions but they'd struggle to name who has won the charity/community shield because quite frankly it's deemed irrelevant
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He just doesn't get it, youtube highlight reels can only take you so far- the limitations are real!
 
@Geordie Ahmed @KingKhanWC @GOSH11

I repeat — the fact that all clubs list the CS as official “Honours won” puts an end to this debate.

It is a not a preseason cup, it is a not a friendly. Its status isn’t the same as the Emirates Cup or Audi Cup or any other prominent preseason competition.

It’s an official FA competition and winning it counts as official honours won.

I’m not sure what is so difficult to understand here?

Once again, the opinions of fans couldn’t matter less. They can consider it as a friendly but it will not change the status of the CS as an official FA competition and it will not stop clubs from counting them as official honours won.

I am well aware of how the CS is perceived by the general football fans in the UK. As I have said many times before almost all my immediately relatives live in the UK and I haven’t most of my summers there.

I don’t disagree with the assessment that the fans don’t consider it as a real trophy and don’t count it as a trophy.

However, as I have already stated above, the fan perception doesn’t matter. They can say what they want.

The only thing that matters is how the clubs view it and as I have shown with Liverpool’s example above (and I can provide more examples), the clubs consider it as honors won.

For example, if you go to the Arsenal website, the CS is listed as Honours won, but the Emirates Cup, a preseason competition, is obviously not listed because it doesn’t count since it’s preseason.

In summary:

Is the CS taken seriously by most football fans in England? Absolutely not

Is it the least significant/important trophy available to a PL club? Absolutely yes

Is it a friendly/preseason competition? Absolutely not

Does it count as trophies/honors won? Absolutely yes

If you have a problem with it being counted as Honours Won, please sign a petition so that the FA revokes its status and clubs take it down from their websites as Honours won.
 
Mamoon said:
@Geordie Ahmed @KingKhanWC @GOSH11

I repeat — the fact that all clubs list the CS as official “Honours won” puts an end to this debate.

It is a not a preseason cup, it is a not a friendly. Its status isn’t the same as the Emirates Cup or Audi Cup or any other prominent preseason competition.

It’s an official FA competition and winning it counts as official honours won.

I’m not sure what is so difficult to understand here?

Once again, the opinions of fans couldn’t matter less. They can consider it as a friendly but it will not change the status of the CS as an official FA competition and it will not stop clubs from counting them as official honours won.

I am well aware of how the CS is perceived by the general football fans in the UK. As I have said many times before almost all my immediately relatives live in the UK and I haven’t most of my summers there.

I don’t disagree with the assessment that the fans don’t consider it as a real trophy and don’t count it as a trophy.

However, as I have already stated above, the fan perception doesn’t matter. They can say what they want.

The only thing that matters is how the clubs view it and as I have shown with Liverpool’s example above (and I can provide more examples), the clubs consider it as honors won.

For example, if you go to the Arsenal website, the CS is listed as Honours won, but the Emirates Cup, a preseason competition, is obviously not listed because it doesn’t count since it’s preseason.

In summary:

Is the CS taken seriously by most football fans in England? Absolutely not

Is it the least significant/important trophy available to a PL club? Absolutely yes

Is it a friendly/preseason competition? Absolutely not

Does it count as trophies/honors won? Absolutely yes

If you have a problem with it being counted as Honours Won, please sign a petition so that the FA revokes its status and clubs take it down from their websites as Honours won.
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You dont understand something so simple because you are not from England, spending summers here when the footie season is off, doesnt mean much lol.

Its not a trophy ,its a shield. Its not a major honour. To give this charity game some more prestige, a shield was introduced. Its no different to the Emirates cup or any other competition, they are glorified friendlies.

99% of English football fans will tell you the same, reason why no fan on here agrees with you either.
 
KingKhanWC said:
You dont understand something so simple because you are not from England, spending summers here when the footie season is off, doesnt mean much lol.

Its not a trophy ,its a shield. Its not a major honour. To give this charity game some more prestige, a shield was introduced. Its no different to the Emirates cup or any other competition, they are glorified friendlies.

99% of English football fans will tell you the same, reason why no fan on here agrees with you either.
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You are repeating yourself which leaves me with no choice but to repeat myself as well.

Firstly, I never said it is a "major honour". I simply said that I reject the notion that it is a friendly/preseason match. It is not, because it counts as official honours won and this is why all clubs have listed it as honours won on their website, including Liverpool.

You had no idea about it, so you should be thankful that I educated you.

Secondly, the opinion of the fans don't matter. They can say what they want, but as long as the CS is an official FA competition and it is listed by clubs as "Honours won", it is a trophy. As simple as that. Whether the fans like it or not, it doesn't make a difference to the official status of the CS.

If these fans have such a problem with clubs recognizing the CS as honours won, maybe they can do a protest outside the FA HQ.
 
Mamoon said:
You are repeating yourself which leaves me with no choice but to repeat myself as well.

Firstly, I never said it is a "major honour". I simply said that I reject the notion that it is a friendly/preseason match. It is not, because it counts as official honours won and this is why all clubs have listed it as honours won on their website, including Liverpool.

You had no idea about it, so you should be thankful that I educated you.

Secondly, the opinion of the fans don't matter. They can say what they want, but as long as the CS is an official FA competition and it is listed by clubs as "Honours won", it is a trophy. As simple as that. Whether the fans like it or not, it doesn't make a difference to the official status of the CS.

If these fans have such a problem with clubs recognizing the CS as honours won, maybe they can do a protest outside the FA HQ.
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Ok I’ll agree it’s a major trophy . Pls add these to LFC honours and advise how many trophies we now have in total ?
 
Leoni deal almost done- top bot h future prospects and reasonable price.

If Guehi is added also, I would try and offload Konate
 
Liverpool made a mistake getting rid of quansah he is a future prospect

Instead gomez should have gone
 
mazkhan said:
Liverpool made a mistake getting rid of quansah he is a future prospect

Instead gomez should have gone
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Think the offer was too good to turn down for the club. Quansah is a talent but always had a mistake in him. Delap was all over him at Ipswich on the opening day of last season and Slot subbed him at HT. If he does mature into a top CB, we have a buyback clause.

Ideally we shift Gomez too but difficult to sell a player who missed so many games through injury last season, and is on the shelf again !

So two CBs are a must. Guehi is PL proven but my only worry is his lack of height may leave us exposed on set-pieces. Not seen much of Leoni - he's a unit and passes the data test. Ben Bocsak on X says he's only one of two U20 CBs in the Top 5 European leagues last season who won more than 60% of their aerial and defensive duels. Arrigo Sacchi rates him which is high praise. But has only played 17 games for Parma, and I'd be terrified if an 18 year old is the next CB after VVD and Konate.

Another reason why I wouldn't be so certain about retaining the title (which we haven't done since Joe Fagan in 1984) is if Chiesa and Elliott go, we're down to only 3 senior attackers ! We need Isak plus a winger as Ngumoha and Doak aren't ready to play every week as a rotation option.
 
Giovanni Leoni transfer news: Liverpool agree deal to sign Parma defender

Liverpool have agreed a deal to sign 18-year-old defender Giovanni Leoni from Parma; Reds will pay a fee of £26m for the defender; Liverpool were targeting defensive reinforcements with Ibrahima Konate entering the final year of his deal at Anfield

Leoni now has permission to travel to Liverpool to agree personal terms and undergo a medical, which is expected to begin on Thursday.

Liverpool saw off competition from elite Italian clubs and Premier League sides, with the player adamant his choice was a move to Arne Slot's side.

Leoni will also immediately join the first-team set-up for this season, with any suggestion of a loan move completely ruled out.

Liverpool were targeting reinforcements at centre-back with Ibrahima Konate entering the final year of his deal at Anfield

What is the latest on Guehi?​


Liverpool remain in talks for Crystal Palace defender Marc Guehi and are favourites to sign the England international

The question is whether they can negotiate a fee now or wait to sign him as a free agent next summer.

Sky Sports News previously reported there was a gap in valuation between the two Premier League sides.

Palace will not let their captain go on the cheap and Liverpool know they can wait until next summer to sign him on a free transfer.

If the situation does not change, it looks likely as things stand that Guehi will stay at Crystal Palace and leave on a free transfer next summer.

www.skysports.com

Giovanni Leoni transfer news: Liverpool agree deal to sign Parma defender

Liverpool have agreed a deal to sign 18-year-old defender Giovanni Leoni from Parma; Reds will pay a fee of £26m for the defender; Liverpool were targeting defensive reinforcements with Ibrahima Konate entering the final year of his deal at Anfield
www.skysports.com www.skysports.com
 
Amjid Javed said:
Liverpool have looked woeful defensive all pre-season and that should be a concern for slot. They definitely need to sign another defender. Otherwise they are going to have to depend on outscoring teams in high scoring games.
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Made this call early, Liverpool looking awful if defence again. Definitely need new defenders
 
Amjid Javed said:
Made this call early, Liverpool looking awful if defence again. Definitely need new defenders
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Konate is truly Awful. His positional play been Amateurish.

Wirtz been nothing special. Will need a good portion of the season to get used to the pace and physicality of the PL
 
aboveandbeyond said:
Konate is truly Awful. His positional play been Amateurish.

Wirtz been nothing special. Will need a good portion of the season to get used to the pace and physicality of the PL
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Wirtz will take time adjusting to pace of league.

Liverpool right side defence looked weak and vulnerable.

Semenyo looked good last season for Bournemouth and looked good tonight
 
Markhor said:
Three points are three points but kamikaze football. Need to improve balance big time before Newcastle.
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I did say your defence looked weak, you need atleast 1 good new quality CB or maybe even another for squad depth. Unless this Italian kid is going to play.
 
Well at least Ekitke (captain) and Gakpo are in my fantasy league team.

Very impressed by both team this evening.

Liverpool need to turn their focus on signing Guehi because defensively they look a little supect. Having both Isak and Ekitke is overkill.
 
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