New Zealand beat Bangladesh by 9 wickets in the 2nd Test, win series 2-0

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New Zealand have won the toss and are bowling first.

New Zealand Team
JA Raval, TWM Latham, KS Williamson*, LRPL Taylor, HM Nicholls, C de Grandhomme, BJ Watling†, MJ Santner, TG Southee, N Wagner, TA Boult

Bangladesh Team
Tamim Iqbal*, Soumya Sarkar, Nazmul Hossain Shanto, Mahmudullah, Shakib Al Hasan, Sabbir Rahman, Nurul Hasan†, Mehedi Hasan Miraz, Taskin Ahmed, Rubel Hossain, Kamrul Islam Rabbi
 
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There are 3 watchable batsmen in the Bangladesh lineup...Mushy, Mominul, and Tamim...all 3 gone. Excited to watch Nurul who is easily the best WK in the country. But Mosaddek should have played ahead of Nazmul.
 
One thing you can't say about Bangladesh is that they are boring. Going at 5 an over after being put in without three key batsmen.
 
BD have given an excellent account of themselves in Test series so far. This series will raise their Test stocks.
 
Boult and Southee have been terrible ever since Bond left.
 
i think bangladesh will become a batting powerhouse one day

hopefully they find a murali too
 
Soumya is naturally aggressive batsman

I am utterly shocked that we are persisting with Riad in tests when we have someone with a 70 average in FC Cricket who was pushed into ODIs but not test team
 
This is effectively Bangladesh B team lol

No Fizz
No Shahid
No Mushy
No Imrul
No Mominul

Personally Bangladesh don't look lost in new Zealand. They are fine with the condition.

But there is something wrong in the mindset
 
I would rather have Afridi in our test side than sir Riad with his sub-30 average in tests last 5 years with 0 centuries
 
How did Sarkar manage to get into the test team with such poor fc stats?

Because our coach doesn't follow our domestics

He sent back the best performer in the BPL and played Imrul Kayes in T20s whose average is 6.71 yes that is less than what you would average if you played

We Even sent back our best FC performer with 70 average in 3 seasons
 
Because our coach doesn't follow our domestics

He sent back the best performer in the BPL and played Imrul Kayes in T20s whose average is 6.71 yes that is less than what you would average if you played

We Even sent back our best FC performer with 70 average in 3 seasons

Who?
 
Bangladesh seem to be more of the India mould than of Pakistan mould. Batting powerhouse and canny spinners.

Been personally surprised by Bangladesh's approach with the bat in this tour. India normally bat extremely well especially if the wicket is batting friendly but I haven't seen them going 4+ an over too many times. They mostly operate in the 3.25-3.75 and go near 4 rr during some periods of play. But Bangladesh have looked to attack right from the start going at 4+ an over in both matches and haven't been shy of playing their shots. Think they need to rein in a bit though.
 
Bangladesh should be demoralized after their previous test defeat! A match which they should have at least drawn, if so they would have got motivated to win this test match from this stage!
 
So at Stumps on Day 1

Bangladesh 289 (84.3 ov)
 
Soumya sat in for Riad???
 
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Taskin really unlucky to not pick up a wicket so far he has bowled really well.

opening the bowling with a spinner on the other end is a surprising move. This is NZ not Bangladesh.
 
Bangladesh not doing too bad with a second-string pace attack. Taskin really unlucky not to pick up a wicket. Bowled really well.
 
Bangladesh not doing too bad with a second-string pace attack. Taskin really unlucky not to pick up a wicket. Bowled really well.

Yeah. Should enforce follow-on on moral victory grounds. Can wrap up the game by tomorrow.
 
Bangladesh have competed better than Pakistan. They are two quality swing bowlers away from becoming a quality side and I believe, unlike India, they will find them. All credit to the Bangladesh Cricket Board for developing a system and now they are reaping the rewards.
 
Another useless performance by NZ, will probably still scrape away with a win, but they have been far from convincing when winning in the last 12 or so months.
 
Bangladesh have competed better than Pakistan. They are two quality swing bowlers away from becoming a quality side and I believe, unlike India, they will find them. All credit to the Bangladesh Cricket Board for developing a system and now they are reaping the rewards.

Shakib is a spinner is making huge difference as well, Shakib is probably the best spinner in the world outside Asia. Has performed well in NZ, England and South Africa. Dunno about Australia, all finger spinners get trashed in Australia
 
Shakib is a spinner is making huge difference as well, Shakib is probably the best spinner in the world outside Asia. Has performed well in NZ, England and South Africa. Dunno about Australia, all finger spinners get trashed in Australia

Not sure about being the best spinner. Not consistent enough these days with all these t20 leagues.

But so far better performance abroad than Yasir or Ashwin. All that considering he is a quality batsman even away from home. Probably averages 40ish overseas. Although haven't checked the numbers lately
 
What we really need is Miraz to come good with the bat. That would make us a really good side. Two genuine all-rounders in world cricket when all other teams combined have basically zero.

Only issue is Miraz isn't doing anything with bat at all. Getting out too early.
 
What we really need is Miraz to come good with the bat. That would make us a really good side. Two genuine all-rounders in world cricket when all other teams combined have basically zero.

Only issue is Miraz isn't doing anything with bat at all. Getting out too early.
Geez, why the arrogance?

I rate Ashwin higher than Shakib as an A/R, and it isn't close IMHO.
 
Geez, why the arrogance?

I rate Ashwin higher than Shakib as an A/R, and it isn't close IMHO.

I meant all formats. Ashwin isn't useful in shorter formats as a batsman

And Ashwin is ranked above shakib right in A/R rankings now because Shakib hasn't played too many tests lately. Shakib already scored 300 runs in the 3 innings he has batted in and took few wickets. Took 13 wickets in the series against England. Shakib as a batsman is much more capable than Ashwin. Would you expect Ashwin to score a double century overseas?

Having said that I would agree Ashwin has been excellent particularly as a spinner.
 
Bangladesh have competed better than Pakistan. They are two quality swing bowlers away from becoming a quality side and I believe, unlike India, they will find them. All credit to the Bangladesh Cricket Board for developing a system and now they are reaping the rewards.

Do you think Shami, Kumar and Yadav can be effective in South Africa?
 
I meant all formats. Ashwin isn't useful in shorter formats as a batsman

And Ashwin is ranked above shakib right in A/R rankings now because Shakib hasn't played too many tests lately. Shakib already scored 300 runs in the 3 innings he has batted in and took few wickets. Took 13 wickets in the series against England. Shakib as a batsman is much more capable than Ashwin. Would you expect Ashwin to score a double century overseas?

Having said that I would agree Ashwin has been excellent particularly as a spinner.

I don't think Ashwin is capable of hitting a double. But I have lost count of the clutch knocks Ashwin has played with the bat in his short career. A lot of them turned out to be match saving and some even match winning for us.

An excellent bowler plus a clutch lower order batsman, if that doesn't make one a genuine all rounder (in test cricket), I don't know what does..
 
I don't think Ashwin is capable of hitting a double. But I have lost count of the clutch knocks Ashwin has played with the bat in his short career. A lot of them turned out to be match saving and some even match winning for us.

An excellent bowler plus a clutch lower order batsman, if that doesn't make one a genuine all rounder (in test cricket), I don't know what does..

Ashwin is a genuine all-rounder in tests I agree but I was talking about all formats in particular.
 
I don't think Ashwin is capable of hitting a double. But I have lost count of the clutch knocks Ashwin has played with the bat in his short career. A lot of them turned out to be match saving and some even match winning for us.

An excellent bowler plus a clutch lower order batsman, if that doesn't make one a genuine all rounder (in test cricket), I don't know what does..
It wouldn't surprise me to see Ashwin score 300 and take 10 against this mediocre lot.
 
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I meant all formats. Ashwin isn't useful in shorter formats as a batsman

And Ashwin is ranked above shakib right in A/R rankings now because Shakib hasn't played too many tests lately. Shakib already scored 300 runs in the 3 innings he has batted in and took few wickets. Took 13 wickets in the series against England. Shakib as a batsman is much more capable than Ashwin. Would you expect Ashwin to score a double century overseas?

Having said that I would agree Ashwin has been excellent particularly as a spinner.
Check their highest ever rating, Ashwin is well ahead of Shakib.

Ashwin can win matches with his bowling alone, Shakib on the other hand doesn't have that impact.

He is consistent with bat and ball, world class in neither I.e. Jack of all trades, master of none.
 
Ashwin is not someone who can take advantage of flat tracks.

That said, I trust him to score more runs in difficult conditions than some of our genuine batsmen like Dhawan and Rohit. Few people know that he averaged 35 with the bat in England when we were getting shot out for 120 and 150 scores as a team.
 
Ashwin is not someone who can take advantage of flat tracks.

That said, I trust him to score more runs in difficult conditions than some of our genuine batsmen like Dhawan and Rohit. Few people know that he averaged 35 with the bat in England when we were getting shot out for 120 and 150 scores as a team.
its not like Shakibs knock was chance less, he had 2 lives IIRC.

We're probably going to see scores of 500/3 declared when you guys tour.

Wouldn't surprise me to see Ashwin to do well either, our batsmen are horrific.
 
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It wouldn't surprise me to see Ashwin score 300 and take 10 against this mediocre lot.

The wickets in NZ have been very flat lately.

Liked the ones in the Pakistan series.

Oh and NZ need to let go of Grandhomme. He isn't going to become the next Hadlee just because of his moustache..
 
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The wickets in NZ have been very flat lately.

Liked the ones in the Pakistan series.

Oh and NZ need to let go of Grandhomme. He isn't going to become the next Hadlee just because of his moustache..
We need to let go of half the side...
 
Check their highest ever rating, Ashwin is well ahead of Shakib.

Ashwin can win matches with his bowling alone, Shakib on the other hand doesn't have that impact.

He is consistent with bat and ball, world class in neither I.e. Jack of all trades, master of none.

Shakib has 15 5-wicket hauls. His bowling average is on the higher side but could have been lower if he had support from other bowlers and not often he got to bowl in the second innings on 4th/5th day pitch particularly in the past. In ODIs and T20Is he is among the better spinners in the world. Rankings will tell you so


And an average of 40 with bat in hand in tests. With 35 in ODIs and 26 in T20Is

You are looking for impact but why have such high standards from someone who is very good in both disciplines. How many players in the world today can walk into most sides in the world with bat or ball alone?
 
The wickets in NZ have been very flat lately.

Liked the ones in the Pakistan series.

Oh and NZ need to let go of Grandhomme. He isn't going to become the next Hadlee just because of his moustache..
Is that the guy who bowled match winning spell against us..the reincarnation of Ian Botham?:13:
 
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