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Pakistan v Australia | Second Test | Day 2: Session 3 | Leeds | 22/07/10

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pakmania said:
The PCB,ICC and Sky Sports apparently have to agree costs,PCB may have had to pay a certain amount but they refused,so did the ICC so theres no UDRS.
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oh ok thanks..does anybody else find that ridiculous???...why should you have to pay for that...it should be automatically installed in all the matches...making people pay for it is cheap
 
Danish is bowling really well. Field placement for him isn't good though.
 
ali_ed2006 said:
just started watching...have we had any dropped catches..has it been just good batting or what? I know Ponting was out first ball not given, that's costing us.
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No dropped catches - decent bowling but excellent batting. You expect that from Australia - it's not possible bowling them out for 88 twice
 
ali_ed2006 said:
just started watching...have we had any dropped catches..has it been just good batting or what? I know Ponting was out first ball not given, that's costing us.
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no drop catches.good bowling but aussies have paid all the money demanded by the umpires well in time
 
ads101 said:
It's 50/50 now. Pakistan don't have the advantage anymore.

Need a couple of wickets now, can't wait for the batsmen to get themselves out.

It's a real shame that Gul is off in this second innings.

I predict Asif will be the one to take the next wicket. He has to save us again and get the key breakthrough.
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50/50? Maybe if you look at the scorecard only. But if you look at the field it looks as though there's only one team that's going to win.
 
gollumbird said:
there is nobody for miles in front for kaneria...horrible captaincy!
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Shades of MoYo...Very,Very poor captaincy from Butt...If you give that sort of fielding to a spinner,he would never ever be effective...

The batsmen are milking the spinner because there is no pressure whatsoever on them...
 
Fantastic deliveries by asif to clarke, just need a edge hopefully. Kaneria needs to give the ball more flight, ball more top spinners and odd googly.


Superb over by asif, there should be a short leg, 1st slip and sill mid off. Kaneria finally bowling better balls cause he's flighting the ball and bowling between 4 to 6 metres from stumps.

Ya ALLAH give pakistan 4 quick wickets in the next 3-4 overs.
 
Seen Sheen said:
I dont think so...The rule remains the same even when UDRS is in operation..
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http://www.cricdb.com/archive/international/news/detail.php?nid=2508

d. What does ‘high degree of confidence’ mean specifically when viewing LBW decisions? When advising on LBW decisions, the requirement for a high degree of confidence should be interpreted as follows:

PITCHED – if the technology shows that the centre of the ball pitched outside leg stump then the decision will be NOT OUT.

IMPACT – if the technology shows that the centre of the ball was between wicket and wicket at the point of impact then it’s OUT (all other factors being in place of course). If the technology shows that no part of the ball was between wicket and wicket at the point of impact (and the batter was playing a stroke) then it’s NOT OUT. Otherwise, the on-field umpire’s original decision should not be changed.

WICKETS – if the technology shows that the centre of the ball would have hit the stumps within an area demarcated by a line drawn below the lower edge of the bails and down the middle of the outer stumps then it’s OUT (subject to the proviso below and all other factors being in place of course). If the technology shows that no part of the ball would have made contact with any part of the stumps or bails then it’s NOT OUT. Otherwise, the on-field umpire’s original decision stands.
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The difference between experienced captaincy and inexperienced.
This wicket is NOT for spin so Ponting never bothered to bowl any spinners.
Butt has other thoughts and continues to bowl the useless Kaneria.
 
The only way to beat ausies is to offer more money to the umpires than aussies n hope they will accept your offer.
 
cricfan967 said:
The difference between experienced captaincy and inexperienced.
This wicket is NOT for spin so Ponting never bothered to bowl any spinners.
Butt has other thoughts and continues to bowl the useless Kaneria.
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Spot on!!!
 
learning tour!!! ponting will make a hundred and pak batsmen will learn thats how to make a hundred. even in an odi 280 is average score while in tests you have more time to score more runs. just no excuse for poor performance.
 
cricfan967 said:
The difference between experienced captaincy and inexperienced.
This wicket is NOT for spin so Ponting never bothered to bowl any spinners.
Butt has other thoughts and continues to bowl the useless Kaneria.
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Doesn't matter experienced or not, the boneheaded way of using the spinner continues. I haven't seen any captain using the spinner properly with proper field settings since YK.
 
Pakistan team knows well what happen in sydney...we have not forgotten that...n i am sure the players are still suffering from that loss mentally...
 
get asif on from the other end because rudi isn't going to give any decision in favor of pakistan
 
WHY is he continuing to bowl Kaneria?
This is ridiculous. I know it's his first time as captain but seriously?
Look at Ponting, he never bowled spin.
 
aqeelPK said:
The only way to beat ausies is to offer more money to the umpires than aussies n hope they will accept your offer.
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I was just gonna say that....The world is such a corrupt place...BCCI pays money to officals ,umpires other teams so that they get conditions they want and win cups and series...so do the Aussies.... Its just us Pakistanis who suffer and loose becasue of that :afridi
 
Don't bother to bowl a spinner at all if you set defensive field, there is no way you can eek out a wicket this way in test cricket!!!
 
even if they win this match from here i am not satisfied. so they can go to hell. Bye guys.
 
This is really frustrating to watch but a real exhibition by Pongting and Clarke,as the senior players taking responsibility and building a great partnership here.
 
Kaneria --- can some1 tell me last time he changed the course of a match in our favor...he is a strike bowler right so what was the last time he caused havoc?
 
Somebody please tell Butt to bring Aamer back on.
Kaneria is USELESS especially when you bowl him in a defensive field in unsupportive conditions.
 
pakmania said:
This is really frustrating to watch but a real exhibition by Pongting and Clarke,as the senior players taking responsibility and building a great partnership here.
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Thanks for being the first person to appreciate the batsmen :))
I think we've bowled quite well, but it's been superb stuff from their senior players. Field settings are a bit bizarre but Butt will only learn
 
oh man in the blink of an eye the lead is almost gone...start to get concerned...

dhak dhak dhak...
 
Ponting given not out on 0 and clarke given not out on 21.nothing wrong with our bowling. we lost the upper hand coz of bad umpiring.i wonder why PCB never takes any action against these umpires.we are losing most the matches coz of umpiring
 
Maybe time for Amir to come in a ball full length, reverse swinging deliveries???

Ball looks like its reversing a little!
 
another nail in the coffin if a team can't win a test match after bowling out opposition for 88 then u have to say it is worst than club cricket team
 
Relax guys......we still have a lead of 35 and we got a full inning to bat and make what they score.... We are still drivers seat...No need to panic....Maximum lead they can give is 150...Thats chaseable with 2 days to go...( assuming they bat full day 3)
 
its clear the wicket is suiting seamers...need to bring gully or aamer from the other end in place of kaneria
 
lovely...

Second day belons to Australia - They've totally dominated today!

Test cricket aint about pretty 20's and 30's which is what our batsmen did...Its about scoring big and piling on the runs when you're set!
 
siccric said:
Thanks for being the first person to appreciate the batsmen :))
I think we've bowled quite well, but it's been superb stuff from their senior players. Field settings are a bit bizarre but Butt will only learn
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Lame excuse..Was Butt blind when MoYo was instructing every fielder to go to the boundary in Sydney?...An intelligant and vigilant person should have observed what was happening out there...
 
Its all to reverse swing now. We need the ball to start reversing.

So unlucky, Ponting was plumb first ball.
 
Sunshine forcasted for tomorrow...not good. Batting will get easier. :(
 
I am getting a bit uneasy but still I am confident about our chances..

Just need a breakthrough,an opening!!:asif
 
Seen Sheen said:
I am getting a bit uneasy but still I am confident about our chances..

Just need a breakthrough,an opening!!:asif
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How many breakthroughs should have we had today?

Again, well done to Rudi for his brilliant umpiring.
 
siccric said:
Thanks for being the first person to appreciate the batsmen :))
I think we've bowled quite well, but it's been superb stuff from their senior players. Field settings are a bit bizarre but Butt will only learn
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:)) The Australians,especially Ponting and Clarke have been doing this time and time again.Somehow they find a way.Thats a key difference,its the mental side of cricket thats crucial.We give up too easily and dont fight.Our bowlers have done really well but you get the feel we're getting a bit desperate now.
 
Pakistan will loose this match...They can not win w/o Yousaf and YK...Salman Butt to loose a game like this will be shame....nothing else...
 
rajachoudhary50 said:
Relax guys......we still have a lead of 35 and we got a full inning to bat and make what they score.... We are still drivers seat...No need to panic....Maximum lead they can give is 150...Thats chaseable with 2 days to go...( assuming they bat full day 3)
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maximum lead 150 and that's chaseable? by whom?
 
We have lost the self belief to win against AUS in test matches. Not sure, how it will ever come back.
 
I just hope that Pakistani players are not as negative as their supporters!

We are playing one of the most formidable teams in this world - they WILL NOT ROLLOVER and DIE - nothing is easy - let Salman Butt and his guys work hard for victory.
 
Test cricket is all about winning sessions, we lost today but we must come back hard and strong. If we give up like wimps this team will carry the mental baggage for long time.

Tomorrow the first 10 or 12 overs are crucial if we can pinch 1 or 2 wickets we are big favourites if we panic when things aren't going our way, Australia and the pressure will bury us.
 
MIG said:
I just hope that Pakistani players are not as negative as their supporters!

We are playing one of the most formidable teams in this world - they WILL NOT ROLLOVER and DIE - nothing is easy - let Salman Butt and his guys work hard for victory.
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True.This isnt Bangladesh we are playing,this is a team with amazing mental strength and they can make situations such as getting bowled out for 88 work in their favour.
 
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