Pakistan v New Zealand | 2nd Test - Day 1 | Wellington | 3/12/09

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Whenever we have a good start- our middle order collapses.

Whenever we don't have a good start- our middle order collapses anyways.

What the hell is wrong.
 
Liverpool_Faizan said:
if u had dropped malik u wud have had to drop yousuf and misbah shud never have bee called back

face it. like it or not malik is one of the best batsmen in this country.
Please stop mentioning malik in the same breath as yousaf.
 
insaaniyat said:
Can anyone kick milkman and iDamaad out?
If u want to survive in the team you have to join the Malik group dosent matter how u perform....I dont think evan Ijaz Butt can remove the Milkman from the team...
 
Afridi_Fan said:
Stop acting like a kid? Were you expecting 29 and 32 when they walked out to bat? By looking at the scorecard how many you can see who scored more than the openers. So sit tight no need to jump uselessly.
if that is your standard of good, I have nothing to say
 
FAHAD KHAN said:
If u want to survive in the team you have to join the Malik group dosent matter how u perform....I dont think evan Ijaz Butt can remove the Milkman from the team...
That is what it seems like
 
hashmist said:
And you say that despite watching the last shot he played?

no i say this as I for one have a longer memory than most people on this forum. i do not forget things easily.

malik is a very sound player. For whatevr reason he is not performing. but then again I look back and no one has really been playing very well. this could be down to lack of test matches i do not know. but i do know that malik is a much better player than faisal iqbal, saeed bin nasr and all those other players who have been mentioned in this forum.
 
Everyone that calls Malike a cheetah are right! He is a cheetah!! Stop hating that he can....






































Go out to bat and return to the pavilion in such a speed!
 
CricketBuff said:
MoYo wanted the captaincy badly. Now he has been exposed as a useless Captain!!!!

while i agree that yousuf shud neevr have been picked he can not control how pakistani players bat.
 
Wonder if U. Akmal is inspiring some brotherly rivalry. Maybe K. Akmal will lift his game with his bro in the team.
 
if you had to choose between malik and alam, who would you choose? i think id go with alam.

ive been a die hard malik supporter up until recently, but even i cant defend him any more after his last three innings. the thing is, hes performed on par with alam, but with far more experience; which to my mind makes his contribution far worse. alam can only get better with more experience, and he is going to be the future of the middle order, so might as well get him in now, even if he is undercooked.
 
Liverpool_Faizan said:
no i say this as I for one have a longer memory than most people on this forum. i do not forget things easily.

malik is a very sound player. For whatevr reason he is not performing. but then again I look back and no one has really been playing very well. this could be down to lack of test matches i do not know. but i do know that malik is a much better player than faisal iqbal, saeed bin nasr and all those other players who have been mentioned in this forum.
Thats the whole point. He might have played some good innings in the past but that is exactly where those innings belong, in the past. He is failing on a consistent basis, why not give someone else a chance until he finds his form?
 
Kamran and Umer should always play together. they helped each other to concentrate more. it helps their game.
 
Misbah gone!! Pakistan batting...I dont' know what to say about it! Come on Aamir show them how it is done!!
 
what do you guys predict for the score...I say 185 all out..

but this is a decent wicket for bowling so our bowlers will come handy.
 
Oh dear, the mediocrity is painful, especially when compared with th brilliance of the Indian batsmen when I change the channel.
 
wow, just when i thought we couldn't play any worse, we go and set a new level. yusuf should be a proud man
 
another one down due to poor shot.

i really think this is down to lack of test match cricket. the concentration is just not there.
 
ali_ed2006 said:
what do you guys predict for the score...I say 185 all out..

but this is a decent wicket for bowling so our bowlers will come handy.
As long as Kamran is there I would say a score of 250 is on the board
 
shane said:
Oh dear, the mediocrity is painful, especially when compared with th brilliance of the Indian batsmen when I change the channel.

Indian batsman are playing on patta wickets at home.
 
Liverpool_Faizan said:
another one down due to poor shot.

i really think this is down to lack of test match cricket. the concentration is just not there.
i think you mean to say that the quality isn't there
 
shane said:
Oh dear, the mediocrity is painful, especially when compared with th brilliance of the Indian batsmen when I change the channel.

Well said. I was thinking on the same lines.
 
What is that now...out of the last 9 test innings..Pakistan has collapsed or almost collapsed in 7 of them!
 
It's the case with most of our batsman - they don't like being kept quiet, the pressure builds, then they make silly mistakes in shot selection.
 
saadjhussain said:
i think you mean to say that the quality isn't there

no the quality is there. to be honest the quality of bowling is garbage

no one at the crease looked uncomfortable. but then when u havent played test matches for a very long time u need time to settle.

as well as this yousuf got it wrong by sending umar in at number three. that was unnecessary.
 
ali_ed2006 said:
Indian batsman are playing on patta wickets at home.

First of all, the wicket Pakistan are capitulating on is an excellent batting track. Secondly, Sri Lanka's attack is head and shoulders above New Zealand's little trundlers.
 
mmkextreme_1 said:
What is that now...out of the last 9 test innings..Pakistan has collapsed or almost collapsed in 7 of them!

i don't think this or the past innings should be considered a collapse. where such a poor batting line up that this is what we should expect. if a line up like this can manage 200 hundred runs then we should consider that a success. By the way, I don't think Yousuf is much of a prolific batsmen as he once was a couple of years ago. He's still class but no where near what he once was.
 
Who do you think has the worst batting line up right now out all the test playing nations. I think Pakistan give Bangladesh a run for their money.
 
Liverpool_Faizan said:
no the quality is there. to be honest the quality of bowling is garbage

no one at the crease looked uncomfortable. but then when u havent played test matches for a very long time u need time to settle.

:inti would agree with you
 
Moyo should be sacked immediately he is not a decision maker he does things as it come bye, making Umar play at No.3 & himself getting out for a big duck, playing Malik/Misbah over Fawad Alam, playing Kaneria over Arafat/Ajmal, pathetic stuff
 
jwizle said:
Who do you think has the worst batting line up right now out all the test playing nations. I think Pakistan give Bangladesh a run for their money.
Very optimistic.
 
So when Pak batsmen threw their wickets away in the third ODI YK stepped aside, and went for a rest, now the same batsmen have thrown their wickets away twice, will MoYo do the same !!!!
 
shane said:
First of all, the wicket Pakistan are capitulating on is an excellent batting track. Secondly, Sri Lanka's attack is head and shoulders above New Zealand's little trundlers.
And to add to it, we scored 60 for no loss in 32.2 overs compare to india's 70 in 13 overs. And we called our opeing partnership good. lol wasted overs with notenough runs and the sending young Omar at # 3
 
do you think moyo is one of the mafia and is trying to undermine his own authority by throwing his wicket away?
 
CricketBuff said:
So when Pak batsmen threw their wickets away in the third ODI YK stepped aside, and went for a rest, now the same batsmen have thrown their wickets away twice, will MoYo do the same !!!!

at this rate dr dan kiesel will be re appointed and made captain.
 
CricketBuff said:
So when Pak batsmen threw their wickets away in the third ODI YK stepped aside, and went for a rest, now the same batsmen have thrown their wickets away twice, will MoYo do the same !!!!
Moyo is not a bipolar person
 
insaaniyat said:
And to add to it, we scored 60 for no loss in 32.2 overs compare to india's 70 in 13 overs. And we called our opeing partnership good. lol wasted overs with notenough runs and the sending young Omar at # 3


why are we even comp indian team with pak team?

they are competing for #1 rank team while we are number 8 in 9 nations ...amazing..
 
If Pakistan make 220 they win this match, mark my words
 
godzilla said:
do you think moyo is one of the mafia and is trying to undermine his own authority by throwing his wicket away?
He is worried about the backsiah he wil lget after this series and then iQuit will be back for one series
 
insaaniyat said:
And to add to it, we scored 60 for no loss in 32.2 overs compare to india's 70 in 13 overs. And we called our opeing partnership good. lol wasted overs with notenough runs and the sending young Omar at # 3

According to our standards of batting, 60-0 was a great start really...openers did do a good job.
 
RumiNYC said:
so have u guys start pray for the three day straight rain yet ;)

no..we are not out of this match. Don't forget our bowling is our strong point..game is far from over.
 
khanlala said:
why are we even comp indian team with pak team?

they are competing for #1 rank team while we are number 8 in 9 nations ...amazing..
You probably are right. When we consider 29 and 32 runs from our openers and 60 partnership in 32 overs good, we should know we are not up there. I totally agree with you. No comparison
 
Bad light or poor shoot selection? I think only Umer got out to a good ball, all others showed lack of concentration
 
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