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That’s good. Too much security nuisance. Crowd/gate fees is a drop in the ocean when it comes to overall revenues.Don't matter pakistan vs India won't be in India
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That’s good. Too much security nuisance. Crowd/gate fees is a drop in the ocean when it comes to overall revenues.Don't matter pakistan vs India won't be in India
I am simply amazed by the naivety of you guys. After so many events, you still need prove that ICC is under BCCIs pockets? Infact, from tomorrow Jay Shah will be ICC head. If you really think ICC will arm twist BCCI to organize the events in India in a hybrid model then good luck to you.And using the Indian narrative:
These are ICC events, not some bilateral Paytem trophy. India's job is to host the event. ICC will decide the venues.
2/3 tournaments are already on sharing basis with Bangladesh/Srilanka anyways. Thoda to research kar lo bhai.
Thank you for opening our eyes. Finally after reading this post of yours, we are convinced it is a massive victory for Pakistan. Congrats to you mate.It's victory for pakistan when india also has to play all their tournaments in hybrid model. Pakistan has only gained but its a loss for India.
They are coping. It’s ok. Appreciate the positivity and positive spin.I am simply amazed by the naivety of you guys. After so many events, you still need prove that ICC is under BCCIs pockets? Infact, from tomorrow Jay Shah will be ICC head. If you really think ICC will arm twist BCCI to organize the events in India in a hybrid model then good luck to you.
Imagination is what you guys have been doing all these years after every PCB bravado statement and U-turn; keep going and keep dreaming.Imagine India reaching the finals vs Pakistan and not able to play in their home country
They are coping. It’s ok. Appreciate the positivity and positive spin.
If this is considered a “win” for PCB and our bros are happy about it. I hate being a spoiler. I will also be part of the celebrations as a PP member and a well wisher of Pak cricket.
Even if India do reach a final, they still can't win at home!Imagine India reaching the finals vs Pakistan and not able to play in their home country
It's like deja vu..
Weren't their similar "agreements" before Asia cup 2023 where people were saying BCCI agreed to play pak world cup games in Bangladesh in exchange of Asia cup hybrid model? How did that end up?
Can't believe these guys are getting fooled twice lmao.
If its Champions Trophy indians will have scars of 2017 finalSo is it going to be UAE or Sri Lanka?
If its UAE - Pakistan will have the mental scars of 2018 Asia cup where they were destroyed by a peak Kohli -less India twice..
If its Sri Lanka - Pakistan will have the mental scars of 356 vs 128 from last year..
Hmm..
They do.If its Champions Trophy indians will have scars of 2017 final
Why would he be gutted?Where is @Slim ? He must be gutted hearing this news.
If its Champions Trophy indians will have scars of 2017 final
Only 2017 CT and WT20 2021 are ICC approved. Rest all are BCCI ki saazish.Lol you got mauled in 5 out of 5 ODIs since that final and talking about scars?
Mate, that Javid Miandad last ball six set back India a decade, emotionally, and they still go on about it!If its Champions Trophy indians will have scars of 2017 final
But but We will not sell ourselves for money”: Mohsin NaqviHearing that ICC will accept PCBs demand of increase in their revenue.
This is the truth and will remain always. BCCI will never used hybrid model for indian tournaments .However, they will not give anything in writing about hybrid models for future ICC events in India.
Its due to money. PCB will make around 100 million for hosting this tournament in a hybrid model. They obviously couldn't ignore it. I think after initial hollow threats PCB started thinking along with the lines of @Savak
Why would i be gutted? Has a decision been taken already?Where is @Slim ? He must be gutted hearing this news.
Yes you don't live in delusional world Mr "BCCI has given 24 hours to accept Hybrid model or lose hosting rights"You're the giys who is believing on lhis lollypop - All the india hosted ICC tournament untill 2031 will be played in hybrid model .
This is what you believed and this is lollypop to keep Pakistan fans happy and you're sharing same opinion.
I don't live in delusion world like you .
There will be no hybrid model for india hosting ICC tournament . Remembers this
Only one option will approved and that is extra hosting fees .$100 million is Propaganda
The hosting fee is max $10 million in the best case scenario which the PCB can pocket but the rest of the ICC budget of $75 million is meant to go towards the cost of hosting the tournament
According to sources Naqvi will agree to the hybrid model in exchange for the following
- The Pakistani team being granted the same Hybrid model option for all ICC events going forward in India till 2031 if the existing Pakistan India government relationship continues as it is. He wants legal cover for this
- A significant increase in the PCB share of the ICC revenues and for PCB to be made number two in the ICC revenue distribution table. This demand is justified because unlike the other ICC members the PCB does not get to host India unlike other ICC members therefore a significant revenue source is lost and hence PCB's heavy reliance on ICC handouts
- A significant increase in the ICC hosting fee for the CT to compensate for the hybrid model
If it were up to me I would demand a few extra things
- Amending the ftp to demand more tests, odis for Pakistan against big teams line Australia, England, New Zealand, South Africa and for more tours by these teams to Pakistan for minimum 3 tests, 3 odis and 3 T20s. Also more A tours to and from these countries
- Boards relaxing their Noc policies for the PSL
Then PCB won't accept hybrid model. ICC have to give it in writing we know BCCI are uselessHearing that ICC will accept PCBs demand of increase in their revenue.
However, they will not give anything in writing about hybrid models for future ICC events in India.
PCB chief is already accepted .Yes you don't live in delusional world Mr "BCCI has given 24 hours to accept Hybrid model or lose hosting rights"
Hybrid model name can be changed to mixed modelThen PCB won't accept hybrid model. ICC have to give it in writing we know BCCI are useless
Oh bhai wake up look at the time of the posts there's been a update since check all your indian media reports
Haha exactly . Hybrid bolne se badnaami hogiI have heard he has requested to not use the word “Hybrid” in the press release when the tournament is going to be held in hybrid eventually
Then there will be no hybrid modelOnly one option will approved and that is extra hosting fees .
100mn( around 90mn actually) news is true as initial budget for hybrid model champions trophy approved around 65mn + 20mn = 85mn
So they will get another 5mn max which means total budget close to 90mn including all the logistics .
No others option will accepted by icc / BCI.
Is this the sane guy who said pcb has 24 hours to accept Hybrid model or lose hostingHaha exactly . Hybrid bolne se badnaami hogi
Wakeup from the dream . Hybrid model is already accepted by PCBThen there will be no hybrid model
India funds Pakistan Cricket. Ramiz Raja has admitted that clearly. So the day Modi decides to kill the funding, PCB will run dry and cry more.
So, just follow the master to make money. If PCB does not like it, don't take the money from ICC.
Simple really. Pakistan does not have to take this money. Indian Cricket Team is not setting foot on Pakistani soil.
No it isn't pcb put conditions if they are not fulfilled then no hybrid modelWakeup from the dream . Hybrid model is already accepted by PCB
Read my post again. You will get it eventually.You're the giys who is believing on lhis lollypop - All the india hosted ICC tournament untill 2031 will be played in hybrid model .
This is what you believed and this is lollypop to keep Pakistan fans happy and you're sharing same opinion.
I don't live in delusion world like you .
There will be no hybrid model for india hosting ICC tournament . Remembers this
India vs pakistan in ICC world cup .In a world cup event a knock out, ind vs pak it stars as 50 50, I respect pakistan as an opposition specially having watched peak pak in the 90's. Not sure why some of the indian posters have to put down pak which has great cricket tradition like the west indies with similar peak and decline though.
Now Saj has confirmed,Yes you don't live in delusional world Mr "BCCI has given 24 hours to accept Hybrid model or lose hosting rights"
There will be no hybrid arrangement for Pakistan when India will host ICC events. As per reports, ICC will not give anything in writing to PCB. Check the video of Mohsin Naqvi above, he was asked the same question by the journalist and his response was 'we have to think what is best for cricket'. Only thing ICC is happy to accommodate is to increase the revenue for PCB which is a fair ask.Why would i be gutted? Has a decision been taken already?
If Pakistan agrees for quid pro quo hybrid arrangement with India then it speaks a lot about BCCI’s so called power in cricket. From saying CT will be taken to South Africa, to India, to what not. The bully has been humbled massively.
Its not an ideal situation but shows if you put up a fight and stand up for your rights, you can get something out of it. I would not be happy with CT matches being held outside Pakistan. But thats my opinion and i stand by it.
Unlike you and your indian fellas who have been jumping up and down taken on a false bravado ride by your third class garbage journalists spouting lies non stop for months.
Then no hybrid modelThere will be no hybrid arrangement for Pakistan when India will host ICC events. As per reports, ICC will not give anything in writing to PCB. Check the video of Mohsin Naqvi above, he was asked the same question by the journalist and his response was 'we have to think what is best for cricket'. Only thing ICC is happy to accommodate is to increase the revenue for PCB which is a fair ask.
India will co-host WT20 2026 & WC 2031. Pakistan will play all their league games outside India but will travel to India to play home side in Ahmedabad as well as semi's/finals.
Anyway, as you said wait for official confirmation if you still not willing to trust any source.
PCB managedI have heard he has requested to not use the word “Hybrid” in the press release when the tournament is going to be held in hybrid eventually
There are two benefits to India strategically:Yes, I might be overestimating the BCCI and of course, the Indian government will have the final say regardless of what Jay Shah desires.
I think we put way too much importance on cricket.
It's just a minuscule drop in terms of financial contribution to Pakistan as a whole. Economic damage to such a small contributor (relatively speaking) is hardly worthwhile. Even a Pakistan vs India bilateral series won't make a dent in the grand scheme of things.
Isn't asking for more money the begging part here?Jay Shah with a begging bowl is a sight to see, I mean a sight to see.
Indian media meltdown - that's when you know you have India by the Crown Jewels
I don't believe it is a comprehension issue. It is just their coping mechanism to save their faces. Let us not punch them when they are down.Not a single Indian on thai thread has said India doesn't need other teams, ofcourse we do for cricket to flourish but everyone is saying is that BCCI doest need Pakistan and IPL is an example of that.
Some people have serious comprehension issues.
People do not have comprehension issues. They have an ego issue and a reality check issue.Not a single Indian on thai thread has said India doesn't need other teams, ofcourse we do for cricket to flourish but everyone is saying is that BCCI doest need Pakistan and IPL is an example of that.
Some people have serious comprehension issues.
Just like how people were claiming Pakistan had 24 hours to accept the hybrid model or face being kicked out of the tournament, and now they’re spinning a different story to protect their ego and to sleep peacefully tonight.People do not have comprehension issues. They have an ego issue and a reality check issue.
Hope so. As you can see many Indians also don't want this hybrid model and hoping entire event to be hosted in Pak. PCB just need to stay firm in their stance. However that is not seem to be the case.Then no hybrid model
$100 million is Propaganda
The hosting fee is max $10 million in the best case scenario which the PCB can pocket but the rest of the ICC budget of $75 million is meant to go towards the cost of hosting the tournament
According to sources Naqvi will agree to the hybrid model in exchange for the following
- The Pakistani team being granted the same Hybrid model option for all ICC events going forward in India till 2031 if the existing Pakistan India government relationship continues as it is. He wants legal cover for this
- A significant increase in the PCB share of the ICC revenues and for PCB to be made number two in the ICC revenue distribution table. This demand is justified because unlike the other ICC members the PCB does not get to host India unlike other ICC members therefore a significant revenue source is lost and hence PCB's heavy reliance on ICC handouts
- A significant increase in the ICC hosting fee for the CT to compensate for the hybrid model
If it were up to me I would demand a few extra things
- Amending the ftp to demand more tests, odis for Pakistan against big teams line Australia, England, New Zealand, South Africa and for more tours by these teams to Pakistan for minimum 3 tests, 3 odis and 3 T20s. Also more A tours to and from these countries
- Boards relaxing their Noc policies for the PSL
hahaha Indian posters on this forum was of very firm and Strong view that PCB has zero leverage over icc and only two options were on table until yesterday that either accept hybrid or be ready to loose hosting rights i can go back to those comments and quote it hereOnly one option will approved and that is extra hosting fees .
100mn( around 90mn actually) news is true as initial budget for hybrid model champions trophy approved around 65mn + 20mn = 85mn
So they will get another 5mn max which means total budget close to 90mn including all the logistics .
No others option will accepted by icc / BCI.
i would throw that in Before CT 2025 so India cant chicken out laterI would also throw in the mix to have a 3 ODI and 3 T20 bilateral series against India in UAE…
some posters said India will not set foot in Pak and deprive Pak of any revenue or financial gain. how is that strategy working ? Pak teams play one match in UAE and gets paid 20 Million $ icing on cake would be pakistan winning
As amusing as that sounds, zero chance of it happening. Both Pakistan and India have completely booked schedules until CT25i would throw that in Before CT 2025 so India cant chicken out later
hahaha Indian posters on this forum was of very firm and Strong view that PCB has zero leverage over icc and only two options were on table until yesterday that either accept hybrid or be ready to loose hosting rights i can go back to those comments and quote it here
Good thing now there is talk of additional compensation to Pakistan to tune of 20 Million $ .. there is possibility of increase in Revenue too. its a win situation for PCB the way Indian posters have been crying at too of their voice that PCB has no cards to play
some posters said India will not set foot in Pak and deprive Pak of any revenue or financial gain. how is that strategy working ? Pak teams play one match in UAE and gets paid 20 Million $ icing on cake would be pakistan winning
if Pak can get legal cover for hybrid in future .. it will be massive win for pcb because Pak has no further tournaments to host and India has 3 of them in cycleFor me personally it will be extremely disappointing to see us having to host it in hybrid way.
Increase in icc revenue share, more hosting money and legal cover for not having to play in India for ICC tournies is still massive tho. Final in Lahore if India doesnt qualify. Far cry from bend over tactics by Najam Sethi and Zaka Ashraf. And a massive reality check to Indian fans as well who i hope humble down after this otherwise they will stay stuck in the delulu cycle.
And a massive reality check to Indian fans as well who i hope humble down after this otherwise they will stay stuck in the delulu cycle.
You can’t welcome something that’s not in your hands.Pakistan is welcome to not send the team to India.
wait, why was Pak “definitely going to play their 2026 T20 WC games in Sri Lanka anyways. Same for the 2031 WC in Bangladesh.”?Pakistan were definitely going to play their 2026 T20 WC games in Sri Lanka anyways. Same for the 2031 WC in Bangladesh.
And now have now they have decided to get dragged out of their own home tournament for absolutely no reason except some $$
And we're supposed to believe BCCI are the ones that ended up on the wrong side of this negotiation..
don't worry, it will be a more palatable term. will not be called hybridFor me personally it will be extremely disappointing to see us having to host it in hybrid way.
how the mighty have fallen. Going from burn world cricket down to settling for few extra dollars all the while claiming we will not sell ourselves for money) and hoping for permission to be a nuisance.Increase in icc revenue share, more hosting money and legal cover for not having to play in India for ICC tournies is still massive tho. Final in Lahore if India doesnt qualify. Far cry from bend over tactics by Najam Sethi and Zaka Ashraf. And a massive reality check to Indian fans as well who i hope humble down after this otherwise they will stay stuck in the delulu cycle.
Do you have comprehension issues?Are you guys living in some parallel reality where matches of a tournament being taken out of your country for some chump change money isn't a grade A humiliation ?
Man..now I get why Pakistan is in a state which it is today.
Exactly lol and the fact that the final and one semi final could be taken out of India too if its quid pro quowait, why was Pak “definitely going to play their 2026 T20 WC games in Sri Lanka anyways. Same for the 2031 WC in Bangladesh.”?
Didn’t Pak just visit India for the WC?
I feel sad about your lack of comprehension skills.don't worry, it will be a more palatable term. will not be called hybrid
how the mighty have fallen. Going from burn world cricket down to settling for few extra dollars all the while claiming we will not sell ourselves for money) and hoping for permission to be a nuisance.
sad really
Any source for "the couple of things being talked about"Do you have comprehension issues?
Re-read my post.
It isnt some “chump change”, couple of things are being talked about. This can result in tournament finals being taken out of India.
Go through the thread.Any source for "the couple of things being talked about"