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Test Draft #4: Initials

Abdullah719 said:
The point was regarding the order of the picks; in this draft, the placement in the draft itself doesn't make a difference as it does in normal drafts without restrictions. Here, everyone has to pick according to the letter and some people can be disadvantaged despite having early picks, and vice versa.
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not quite, the people who get random picks are at a an advantage, they have the outside possibility of getting letters which are extremely unlikely in the main sequence. the people with random letters had the chance of getting q, c, v or i, these are highly unlikely if u don't get a random letter.

[MENTION=29901]Thunderbolt[/MENTION] got f, which only showed up once in the main sequence, and w, which didnt show up again, [MENTION=151679]Forward Defensive Push[/MENTION] got b, p and j, which didn't show up in the main sequence randomly again.

i did a quick check and out of 26 letters we have had 19, out of which 4 were only generated randomly. so if your not on the end you are likely gonna be fighting over 15 letters, mostly d,e,r,s,a,n and h.
 
ElRaja said:
not quite, the people who get random picks are at a an advantage, they have the outside possibility of getting letters which are extremely unlikely in the main sequence. the people with random letters had the chance of getting q, c, v or i, these are highly unlikely if u don't get a random letter.

[MENTION=29901]Thunderbolt[/MENTION] got f, which only showed up once in the main sequence, and w, which didnt show up again, [MENTION=151679]Forward Defensive Push[/MENTION] got b, p and j, which didn't show up in the main sequence randomly again.

i did a quick check and out of 26 letters we have had 19, out of which 4 were only generated randomly. so if your not on the end you are likely gonna be fighting over 15 letters, mostly d,e,r,s,a,n and h.
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Good point, that's true.

It's definitely been an interesting draft.
 
I was prepared for this somewhat, the run was too good to last.

I'll go for a Zimbabwean all-rounder: Neil Johnson

I am afraid, I might have stitched up [MENTION=133760]Abdullah719[/MENTION] here. If he's searching for an opener, there are a couple of middle order batsmen with a South African connection that have batted at the top of the order in test cricket recently. One of them had a fairly decent career too.
 
Gavaskar
x
Harvey
Hussain
Gower
Johnson
Pollock
Marsh
Warne
Marshall
Lillee

That batting order looks a bit dodgy, it must be said. But I'd always rather have great bowlers than batsmen.
 
:jordan

Ah well, came across him earlier while browsing through the Ns, so why not... Besides the fact that no one will likely know who he is.

I pick Norm O'Neill for my final middle-order slot.
 
Abdullah719 said:
:jordan

Ah well, came across him earlier while browsing through the Ns, so why not... Besides the fact that no one will likely know who he is.

I pick Norm O'Neill for my final middle-order slot.
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One of the greatest fielders and a top 15 AT middle order Aus batsmen. Would get into Pak 2nd XI def. Great pick and was my next pick for 'n'
 
Great, I was expecting a 'E' actually.

But anyways, is it gonna be 'R' or 'Q' for [MENTION=146232]jeeteshssaxena[/MENTION]?
 
I pick the pioneer of 'doosra', the legendary <B>Saqlain Mushtaq</B>.

At its peak, arguably better than any other spinner bar Warne and Murali in last 50-60 years. One of the truly iconic spin bowlers from Pakistan, his best performance came against a legendary Indian batting lineup on the sweltering heat of Chennai in 1999 where he took his team to a win with a 10-fer, a feat of that magnitude which even Warne and Murali could never achieve against that calibre of batsmen.
 
[MENTION=146232]jeeteshssaxena[/MENTION] gets 'Q'. Don't think he has any option to pick but one :yk
 
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Ab Fan said:
[MENTION=146232]jeeteshssaxena[/MENTION] gets 'Q'. Don't think he has any option to pick but one :yk
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Thought you'd pick Shoaib.

Poor [MENTION=146232]jeeteshssaxena[/MENTION] has had some eclectic letter choices, and now he'll be forced to accommodate two wicket-keepers. He's enterprising enough to find a rationale for substituting one of them eventually though.
 
Last Monetarist said:
Thought you'd pick Shoaib.

Poor [MENTION=146232]jeeteshssaxena[/MENTION] has had some eclectic letter choices, and now he'll be forced to accommodate two wicket-keepers. He's enterprising enough to find a rationale for substituting one of them eventually though.
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I agree. Think he will sort it as he also gonna have a 12th pick to make an adjustment accordingly.
 
Richard Hadlee
Neil Adcock
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Hedley Verity
Saqlain Mushtaq

Greg Chappell
Allan Border

I like the look of my bowling attack. One more pick to go.
 
Last Monetarist said:
The problem he will have is that he's only picked 3 specialist bowlers thus far, and one of them's Hayward.
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Didn't noticed that. You made a good point there.

I think he has played exceptionally well and it will be unfair so just wondering if am I allowed to change my pick back to Shoaib Akhtar because there is really not much difference between him and Saqlain? And no one has yet made any pick either.
 
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Ab Fan said:
Didn't noticed that. You made a good point there.

I think he has played exceptionally well and it will be unfair so just wondering if am I allowed to change my pick back to Shoaib Akhtar because there is really not much difference between him and Saqlain? And no one has yet made any pick either.
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Probably one for [MENTION=151648]therealAB[/MENTION] to decide. I see no issue personally.
 
[MENTION=151648]therealAB[/MENTION], I change my pick back to <B>Shoaib Akhtar</B>.

Is that allowed?
 
In normal circumstances, I'd be inclined to strongly agree with [MENTION=151679]Forward Defensive Push[/MENTION] and assert that a poster can't change his selection once made.

However, in this case [MENTION=139595]Ab Fan[/MENTION] is changing his pick in order to help out a fellow poster whose team would be somewhat ruined if the original selection is final. Thus, I see no issue with a change.
 
Last Monetarist said:
In normal circumstances, I'd be inclined to strongly agree with [MENTION=151679]Forward Defensive Push[/MENTION] and assert that a poster can't change his selection once made.

However, in this case [MENTION=139595]Ab Fan[/MENTION] is changing his pick in order to help out a fellow poster whose team would be somewhat ruined if the original selection is final. Thus, I see no issue with a change.
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Only if I was given such a generous offer.. [MENTION=151648]therealAB[/MENTION] is not such a nice person and gave me headaches
 
Last Monetarist said:
In normal circumstances, I'd be inclined to strongly agree with [MENTION=151679]Forward Defensive Push[/MENTION] and assert that a poster can't change his selection once made.

However, in this case [MENTION=139595]Ab Fan[/MENTION] is changing his pick in order to help out a fellow poster whose team would be somewhat ruined if the original selection is final. Thus, I see no issue with a change.
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Well summed up. The more I think I feel I should have picked Akhtar first up only. Probably the fact that I was waiting to get 'S' from the past two rounds caused the reason.
 
Forward Defensive Push said:
I focused on getting things move quickly and made absolute shocker selection like Morgan. Wish I could reverse it! Only if I also took time to dig up old Wisden books and came up with some nice ringing names! Anyway, that's my fault as well.
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You will be able to substitute Morgan out in the 12th round.
 
jeeteshssaxena said:
So I need to pick with r.
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Think you need to wait for [MENTION=151648]therealAB[/MENTION]'s view on this before you can finalize your selection. Also think it'll be useful to get feedback from the other participants. [MENTION=133760]Abdullah719[/MENTION] [MENTION=151892]Thunderbolt14[/MENTION] [MENTION=23911]Moh@n[/MENTION] [MENTION=56933]ElRaja[/MENTION]
 
This might have opened a can of worms, probably better to revert to the original choice [MENTION=139595]Ab Fan[/MENTION]
 
jeeteshssaxena said:
I pick
RICHIE RICHARDSON

[MENTION=56933]ElRaja[/MENTION] your pick with N :yk
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ouch, this game aint fun anymore, lol, with the sole intention to swap out at the 12th round for another all rounder, i go for nicky boje.
[MENTION=151648]therealAB[/MENTION], you get an E, EEEnjoy, lol.
 
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Forward Defensive Push said:
Anyway, it's up to [MENTION=151648]therealAB[/MENTION] to decide
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I'd be inclined to say that the pick should stay. The aim of the draft is to pick the best team, and sabotage is a way to do that. With the extra round at the end I don't see a problem. However if a large majority of drafters are happy to allow a repick then I am too
 
Let’s stick with the first pick. Other posters are right that you’re opening up a can of worms. Later in the draft anyone can claim that they are changing their pick to avoid sabotaging the next person.
 
Alright then.

I personally don't like changing my picks again and again but given that this may come back again and I would rather prefer not to give an explanation then than now, I stick with my first pick.

So, without wasting further time, let's proceed ahead.

I pick <B>Saqlain Mushtaq</B>.
 
Last Monetarist said:
Think you need to wait for [MENTION=151648]therealAB[/MENTION]'s view on this before you can finalize your selection. Also think it'll be useful to get feedback from the other participants. [MENTION=133760]Abdullah719[/MENTION] [MENTION=151892]Thunderbolt14[/MENTION] [MENTION=23911]Moh@n[/MENTION] [MENTION=56933]ElRaja[/MENTION]
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Looks like it's been decided to stick with the original pick.

I'm fine with that. [MENTION=146232]jeeteshssaxena[/MENTION] up next with Q.
 
David Warner
Rohit Sharma
Ricky Ponting
Greg Chappell
Allan Border(c)
Andy Flower(wkt)
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Richard Hadlee
Hedley Verity
Neil Adcock
Saqlain Mushtaq

Looks spot on :afridi
 
So in every round I get the worst letter and then because this letter has no good player left I have to pick a random player who doesn't sit well in my lineup and almost always I give a great letter to the next participant. :yk
 
jeeteshssaxena said:
So in every round I get the worst letter and then because this letter has no good player left I have to pick a random player who doesn't sit well in my lineup and almost always I give a great letter to the next participant. :yk
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gracias amigo, kapil dev it is.

v for [MENTION=151648]therealAB[/MENTION]
 
This is a bit of a conundrum for [MENTION=151648]therealAB[/MENTION], there's one bleedingly obvious choice with that letter. However, he already has seven gun batsmen in his side, none of whom can remotely qualify as all-rounders, if he picks an eighth that will ruin the team structure and there's no real get out clause with the joker selection given that any replacement needs to be like-for-like.
 
Ab Fan said:
You Ask for GOAT

You Get GOAT

But you can't pick GOAT

:smith :yk
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id be lying if i said i didnt count how many batsmen you had before confirming my pick lol, could have always chosen a certain zimbabwean as my third seamer if u didnt have so many batsmen for as my round 12 swap option :maqsood
 
therealAB has been flooded with flurry of good letters.. I and elraja are at fault too.. it was actually a disadvantage to have been in first position .. random letters have not been kind to me as well..

I’m sure I will get an S.. not bad actually! if not have to be ready for other letter
 
i think its safe to say i have a very experienced team, 3 players with 160+ tests, lol :misbah
 
therealAB said:
One of the greatest fielders and a top 15 AT middle order Aus batsmen. Would get into Pak 2nd XI def. Great pick and was my next pick for 'n'
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Good to know. I knew you'd provide some feedback on him.

What about Lindsay Hassett?
 
I pick Ravindra Jadeja, a solid 7 who can run through batting orders if conditions are remotely conducive to spin.

Please generate a random letter
 
It's a real soup as I can only think of two keepers that played test cricket with names beginning with 'c', and one of them was utterly atrocious.
 
Moh@n said:
Carlton Baugh?
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Forgot about him, the atrocious one I am thinking of is also a West Indian keeper. His only decent choice is an English keeper who kept wicket like an angel and was unfortunate not to play more tests.
 
Forward Defensive Push said:
I don't think there were any rules about tam composition?
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There is a problem because if you allocate Morgan as keeper and then theoretically replace him in the next round with a proper keeper, it won't be a like-for-like replacement. Unless you are willing to forgo playing with a specialist keeper?
 
Last Monetarist said:
I don't think that should be allowed as he has never kept in test cricket.
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I think it should be allowed, its his choice afterall.
He can even make ravundra jadeja his keeper for all we care but, joker pic shouldn't be allowed on that as morgan is not a regular wktkeeper.
 
Last Monetarist said:
There is a problem because if you allocate Morgan as keeper and then theoretically replace him in the next round with a proper keeper, it won't be a like-for-like replacement. Unless you are willing to forgo playing with a specialist keeper?
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Well spotted. That is indeed my strategy. Why is it wrong?
 
jeeteshssaxena said:
I think it should be allowed, its his choice afterall.
He can even make ravundra jadeja his keeper for all we care but, joker pic shouldn't be allowed on that as morgan is not a regular wktkeeper.
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Yes, my only concern is the joker selection. Otherwise he can have Cummins keep if he so desires.
 
Forward Defensive Push said:
Well spotted. That is indeed my strategy. Why is it wrong?
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Let me give an example of why it is wrong..

I have usman khawaja in my lineup but i have only 3 genuine bowlers, usman khawaja bowls off spin so i will replace him with someone like muttiah muralitharan. :yk

How is this fair.
 
Alright, I choose Chris Reed and he is indeed my wicket keeper. Need to have someone who can catch all the edges induced by my terrific bowlers :p
 
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