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Third Test match between England and Pakistan ends in a draw as England win series 1-0

Shafiq has officially reached the lowest point of his mediocre career.
 
Yeah Asad even James Cameron couldn't have scripted a better time to get out, job well done Man. Now get lost.
 
topspin said:
As I was saying to slog, there's a flaw with this argument. It's like me saying Younis Khan is Pakistan's best batsman of all time or an ATG because he has scored more runs than any other Pakistani batsmen. it doesn't work like that.
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Pakistan has a nothing batting legacy so being the best Pakistani batsman is like being the tallest midget.
 
Kenpachi said:
The fact that you started your post with "mate do you know anything" clearly shows you know nothing, let alone about cricket.

In fact it probably shows you have some insecurities deep down which i suggest you talk to someone about lest they take over your life.
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This is a cricket forum . So let’s talk cricket . Why was run rate important in the context of this match ? You never answered that and what did you mean by scoring enough runs to avoid an innings defeat when it’s obvious Pakistan are playing for a draw .

You conveniently never answered those questions .
As it’s pretty obvious you know “zilch “ about test cricket .
 
Are they going to give every player an over? I remember India did something like that in 2002 (against West Indies).
 
topspin said:
Now you're exposing your ignorance for everyone to see, so keeping going because you're doing a grand job of making a fool out of yourself. You obviously don't know me well enough. I say it as I see it.

England is my 2nd team and it's where I was born and bred. I was elated to see them win the World Cup, so that's another why your last sentence couldn't be any further from the truth. So **** of here.
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Oh no 2nd team!! I was born in England too. What's your point?

At the end of the day history will look back at Anderson being the only pace bowler so far to reach 600 wickets, also being the fastest ever to reach 600 wickets and thus etching his name in history for time to come as an All Time Great.

Whatever feeble excuse you make to try about him not being an all time great and make yourself feel better just doesnt wash with me.
 
Mamoon is right we deserve to be humiliated when someone like Shafiq carries on for 10 years.
 
Certainly one of the highlights of Root’s career. Few part-timers have been able to dismiss the Little Master from Karachi.
 
Mamoon said:
My point is that if Anderson had a bit more pace, he would have been a right handed Wasim.
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Anderson is better than wasim 600 test wickets being a fast bowler is just something any other fast bowler would ever dream of before going to bed. All the people who talk about his away record or whatever are just haters and don’t understand the sport. Taking 600 wickets and playing for so many years the longevity and the skill involved is outstanding hats off to jimmy he is a legend and an all time great he will be inducted into the hall of fame as soon as he retires I see no reason why anyone should have the audacity to question his greatness.
 
Poor series for Asad. Is he confidence short, flawed technique or just lacks pressure. Time to reflect on his past innings.
 
Mean&Green said:
Anderson is better than wasim 600 test wickets being a fast bowler is just something any other fast bowler would ever dream of before going to bed. All the people who talk about his away record or whatever are just haters and don’t understand the sport. Taking 600 wickets and playing for so many years the longevity and the skill involved is outstanding hats off to jimmy he is a legend and an all time great he will be inducted into the hall of fame as soon as he retires I see no reason why anyone should have the audacity to question his greatness.
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You posted this already. Wasim is better now carry on
 
Homestly, I know he’s undroppable but he simply cannot tour NZD later in the year. Shafiq’s 20s have been very poor looking - including the run out innings.

Would rather have Salahuddin or Shakeel or whoever is most appropriate instead. Fawad can be stuck with just until the end of the calendar year. Sigh.
 
GreenKhan said:
This is a cricket forum . So let’s talk cricket . Why was run rate important in the context of this match ? You never answered that and what did you mean by scoring enough runs to avoid an innings defeat when it’s obvious Pakistan are playing for a draw .

You conveniently never answered those questions .
As it’s pretty obvious you know “zilch “ about test cricket .
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Well said. He obviously has a novice reading of the game :))
 
Apart from an 80 odd in 2010-11, I don’t recall Shafiq scoring in NZ.

The conditions are really tough for batting and they have world class bowlers. He will most certainly fail as usual.
 
Slog said:
Our next tour is ages away so will be forgotten by then
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Despite all the undroppable talk, I feel this is actually a big reason. People remember LOI failures as there are more games per series and often more frequently so.
 
Yk313 said:
Homestly, I know he’s undroppable but he simply cannot tour NZD later in the year. Shafiq’s 20s have been very poor looking - including the run out innings.

Would rather have Salahuddin or Shakeel or whoever is most appropriate instead. Fawad can be stuck with just until the end of the calendar year. Sigh.
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It will be unfair on either or both of them if they do get selected and don't score to be criticised for it.

People need to understand they will need much more time than these guys.
 
Anderson is setting Fawad up with the wide-ish delivery. Every ball he bowls has a purpose.
 
18 overs to go with 2nd ball at hand.....

Asad, beta retire ho jao, thori izzat abhi bachhi hai....
 
What is more probable, trump Re election, or Fwad surviving these last 18 overs? i would go with former.
 
Mamoon said:
Apart from an 80 odd in 2010-11, I don’t recall Shafiq scoring in NZ.

The conditions are really tough for batting and they have world class bowlers. He will most certainly fail as usual.
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Even if he did score other than on that tour, he simply cannot tour. One of Fawad or Shafiq is enough. And I really don’t want Fawad to continue past Q1 of 2021 max.
 
Deewana Mastana said:
It will be unfair on either or both of them if they do get selected and don't score to be criticised for it.

People need to understand they will need much more time than these guys.
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Yeah, I agree. But I did not mean a one off selection like we did with Salahuddin in 2018 (ENG tour). I meant picking the most able person and sticking with them.
 
Mamoon said:
Apart from an 80 odd in 2010-11, I don’t recall Shafiq scoring in NZ.

The conditions are really tough for batting and they have world class bowlers. He will most certainly fail as usual.
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If they pick any youngster in place of Shafiq for the tough tour of NZ, youngster can be fail and then little master will make come back in next easy series.
 
Babar scoring well is good for my fantasy team. I have him in the team.

I hope he scores a century.
 
Shafiq’s disastrous tour has finally come to an end:

Innings 5
Runs 67
Average 13.40
 
Stats show that Babar has averaged 45+ on this tour. However, he has had an average, substandard series where he has failed to make an impact.

He was certainly expected to have a more dominant outing.

His next challenge would be to have a really dominant series against a big side. Scoring 2-3 hundreds or a double hundred in a 3 match series.
 
Yk313 said:
Yeah, I agree. But I did not mean a one off selection like we did with Salahuddin in 2018 (ENG tour). I meant picking the most able person and sticking with them.
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When they picked him back in 2011 in WI, even then I said he's been picked for the wrong format as he suited test cricket. Nearly 10 years down the line he still hasn't played much apart from 1 in 2018.
 
So c. 3 50 ish scores by BA. Wasted a big chance in the first innings, could have had a big tour in terms of personal accomplishments. Could possibly even have won us that game.
 
Mamoon said:
Pakistan has a nothing batting legacy so being the best Pakistani batsman is like being the tallest midget.
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I agree but my point is there has to be some consistency with how bowlers are classified. In my view there are 3 types of good bowlers: world class, legendary and all-time great with the latter being the most accomplished of the lot.

I don’t agree in principle for a bowler who had an average career away from home (as evident by their average) can be classified as an ATG.

I’m a big fan of Anderson but I feel he’s 1-2 tiers short of ATG status.
 
Pakistan are so nice. No glove changes, no unscheduled water breaks, no talking the pitch between calls.

It’s only 4 wickets down so I get it but all this nicety is getting to me
 
Mamoon said:
Stats show that Babar has averaged 45+ on this tour. However, he has had an average, substandard series where he has failed to make an impact.

He was certainly expected to have a more dominant outing.

His next challenge would be to have a really dominant series against a big side. Scoring 2-3 hundreds or a double hundred in a 3 match series.
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Agreed. But the conditions for most of this series have been quite testing for any batsmen.
 
I believe this is Fawad’s last Test innings.

If Misbah stays as CS, he will make him the scapegoat to keep puppet #2 Shafiq in the team.

If Akhtar becomes the CS, he will get rid of him because he doesn’t fit the aggressive and badmash profile that he might be looking for.

Either way, Fawad’s sad career could be coming to a close.
 
Babar has been a tad disappointing in this series.

Threw away starts, has an issue when the ball comes back into him.

Too much slashing outside off stump in test cricket as well.

Needs to learn to buckle down at times and be ready to play the grinding knock required in tests.
 
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