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England struggle at 24/3 in their second innings at stumps on Day 2 of the third Test against Pakistan

Rana said:
So he’s allowed to be consistently poor everywhere else because he averages 40 in Australia?
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Poor where exactly? He is averaging 40 home and away, he is averaging 40 plus in SENA minus South Africa. Which metric are you using to say Rizwan is poor everywhere else and should be dropped and then also be replaced by Sarfraz?
 
Who remembers uncle Shaun Udal getting smashed by Afridi in 2005?
 
Sajid is the name, Chacha shpuld die in shame.

How dare he claims that sajid isn't good enough all to protect himself.

Sajid is a better batter and bowler compared to ifti by far.
 
Rana said:
Why don’t you put up an image of the surprise Pakistan suffered losing to USA or Afghanistan? The team was built to make Rizwan look good.
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Because that was a great positive moment I remembered - which we all prefer to remember over negative events

but you make a fair point about the 'surprise' element
 
Asad T said:
That was a crazy match -- and was probably the last time that Pakistan showed some fight, resilience and mental fortitude (that match, and the match against NZ)
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Yeah I actually wanted to have my profile picture as Fakhar raising his helmet in that hundred vs New Zealand, but it turns out someone else already took that almost immediately after the match ended :yk

But anyways back to the current cricket, where Sajid is smashing it here.
 
Aqib_mustafa said:
Bro who is to be blamed for not having sajid and noman aqib picked them right away?
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Bro there have been so many selection committees in just the past few months that its hard to even pinpoint one person. I think multiple selections committees, coaches and captains deserve to be blamed. But what matters now is that he is in the team and hopefully here to stay.
 
I honestly cannot believe Sajid and Noman bat lower than Shan and Rizwan

Rizwan is a certified no10!
 
Rana said:
Next time

Don’t challenge me on players. Change your view for all I care, but don’t question who I like or dislike.
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He didn't even say Saud was bad based of any actual empirical evidence bro.

He literally called saud a midget just because you talked about his precious rizwan.

That just proves my point on these guys. Attacking every player to protect rizwan and Babar.

The same people here who are praising sajid are hypocrites cause they laughed at me for suggesting to take sajid in test cause apprantly he performed in a low level league only.

And now everyone is pretending like they always wanted sajid and nouman and that these guys were unsung heroes?

I have so many comments on these guys wanting to tear sajid and Nouman apart.

Only Savak actually wanted Nouman chacha back and correctly identified bow rubbish that Misbah Abrar Spinner was and why Nouman in England made abrar work.
 
PakPremi said:
Learn to read I already acknowledged it. And rich from you talking about Essays.
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You acknowledged it, so your previous point about Babar and shaheen being dropped ot making a difference is automatically false and you just lied.
 
NeVerMind said:
Now if only the posters on this forum just enjoy this rather than trying to score personal points would be great!
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These guys shpuld admit I was right and that they were wrong.

They just have a massive inflated ego and are pretending like they didn't make hate claims on the very players that they are defending.

Their is nothing wrong in realising that their views were rubbish back then and I was right and I beat them last time
 
RedwoodOriginal said:
Some people lack mental maturity and class. What I've learned is that you can't drag yourself down to their level.
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I tried to actually be civil with you last night on discussing why that 86 avg is faulty but you ended up attacking back

Shall I show everyone that comment?
 
mominsaigol said:
These guys shpuld admit I was right and that they were wrong.

They just have a massive inflated ego and are pretending like they didn't make hate claims on the very players that they are defending.

Their is nothing wrong in realising that their views were rubbish back then and I was right and I beat them last time
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It's not about you beating the other posters but Pakistan beating their opponents for once...relax and enjoy...life's too short
 
mominsaigol said:
It's very very sad that people have the misbah ideology.

They have completly forgetten that the ultimate goal of cricket is to win a game. Nothing else matters.

It's thanks to this Misbah philosophy that you hear rubbish such as Babar and rizwan are our main batters.

No one else ever embodies this concept. Travis head, Pointing, Steve smith (2014-2020) were considered main batters by the fans and not the team itself.

Nothing was built to accommodate these 3, unlike Pakistan where life and limb rubbish arguments to defend rizwan and find a way to keep him in the team are made.

Rizwan plays for himself, If you have such a player, Then no matter how good they are, they need a boot plain and simple.

A player who plays for himself like Misbah did cannot ever win you games as RR and team situations are not their concern.
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Well the stats clearly tell a different reading, I think you are confusing formats..
 
mominsaigol said:
These guys shpuld admit I was right and that they were wrong.
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Why is that so important? You and Rana sound like teens who just want a bunch of attention and sulk if someone doesn't agree with you guys and in the process spoiling it for everyone else.
mominsaigol said:
They just have a massive inflated ego and are pretending like they didn't make hate claims on the very players that they are defending.
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Ironic...
mominsaigol said:
Their is nothing wrong in realising that their views were rubbish back then and I was right and I beat them last time
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@mominsaigol let's just focus on the game now, if you want to bring up other topics just do so on the relevant threads pls. this is one of the most exciting Tests in ages, let's not kill the vibe here
 
NeVerMind said:
It's not about you beating the other posters but Pakistan beating their opponents for once...relax and enjoy...life's too short
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Yes but said posters are spreading misinformation still.

One bad series and all these frauds will start rushing to defend Babar and rizwan and the misbah rubbish again
 
RedwoodOriginal said:
Some people lack mental maturity and class. What I've learned is that you can't drag yourself down to their level.
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The best approach is to just ignore them. These individuals are clearly struggling with their own issues and seem to find satisfaction in trying to ruin someone else’s day. It’s not worth engaging with people who are only spreading negativity because of their own misery.
 
Sajid should aim for a 70, Saud shpuld aim fir a 150.

Crush England once and for all
 
mominsaigol said:
How am I confusing formats?
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Your using his 'selfish' batting in T20s and using it for Tests. There is a case for Rizwan getting dropped in T20s for low strike rate/selfish but it isn't the case with tests. If he goes on a long run (South Africa Away/West Indies Home) of low scores in Tests then maybe you can look at other options.
 
Nabeel23 said:
Your using his 'selfish' batting in T20s and using it for Tests. There is a case for Rizwan getting dropped in T20s for low strike rate/selfish but it isn't the case with tests. If he goes on a long run (South Africa Away/West Indies Home) of low scores in Tests then maybe you can look at other options.
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This will be my last comment on this as I've been told to discuss the match thread only.

But I never brought up t20. I was referring to the Bangladesh series. Liton das already showed rizwan how batting is done and it doesn't involve exposing the fragile tail on the 5th day just to get your 50
 
60 plus lead now, make it 100 plus and game will be done. Go Pakistan...
 
Pakistan have won this test series.

Important innings for saud shakeel. Has finally shut down the haters who claimed he was a soft scorer. However I stand by what I said. He needs to avoid getting out on soft dismissals..it's his biggest weakness. And is something he shpuld do for the future.

Secondly sajid Khan, I hope he replaces Chacha and kicks him to the curb for good. Don't ever wanna see that old fraud again.

This guy is your no 7 to no 8 lower order allrounder.
 
It's great to see Pakistani players fighting. Even if series win does not happen, attitude of team has changed in a big way after the shake up. You do have to shake things up time to time.

Willingness to fight is a fantastic quality and you need it in test format more than any other format.
 
Anyways, when you see pakistani batsmen doing good it means the wicket is good. Have the wicket changed?
 
Asad T said:
Love how after Sajid was hit, and blood spilled on his t-shirt the coms went right to the washing detergent sponsor
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I saw a hilarious reel on Instagram recently by an English content creator about how seamlessly the commentators have combined cricket with shameless product placement in this series
 
RedwoodOriginal said:
I saw a hilarious reel on Instagram recently by an English content creator about how seamlessly the commentators have combined cricket with shameless product placement in this series
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haha paste the link here if you come across it
 
Nouman And Sajid has proven that you gotta back your domestic players to build a team not some raw talent coming through leagues

Aqib Javed has proven that never make pitches to suit a specific batter to enhance his stats at cost of home series defeats
 
mominsaigol said:
Pakistan have won this test series.

Important innings for saud shakeel. Has finally shut down the haters who claimed he was a soft scorer. However I stand by what I said. He needs to avoid getting out on soft dismissals..it's his biggest weakness. And is something he shpuld do for the future.

Secondly sajid Khan, I hope he replaces Chacha and kicks him to the curb for good. Don't ever wanna see that old fraud again.

This guy is your no 7 to no 8 lower order allrounder.
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Sajid will probably displace Abrar after this too
 
IAJ said:
Anyways, when you see pakistani batsmen doing good it means the wicket is good. Have the wicket changed?
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Not everything is about the pitch though. These kinds of partnership when the opposition is close to wrapping up the innings can be quite mentally defeating. Not to mention Pakistan's growing lead
 
Love it, a lead of 68 already and yesterday I thought that we would have trouble scoring 270. Maro mujhe sab milke maro
 
Ball is keeping low and at times rolling on the ground of the pacer on this wicket, need to bowl Aamir Jamal in the second innings
 
Caved12 said:
Love it, a lead of 68 already and yesterday I thought that we would have trouble scoring 270. Maro mujhe sab milke maro
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Pak need a few more yet imo. England will come hard against the new ball and may get a quick 100.
 
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