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England v Pakistan | 3rd ODI | Nottingham | August 30th, 2016 | England innings

Not many people are gonna like what I'm gonna say but the only way to improve is to select good players from List A and arrange matches against minnows like Zim, Bang, Afg and also against the lower tier teams we're usually good against like WI and SL to build their confidence up. Make our players bag up wickets and some centuries then play them against the big guns.

Bangladesh is not a minnow as such in LOI anymore.
 
Kick these lousy cricketers out of the team.

This over sums it up, Azhar out, Hafeez out, Wahab out, Yasir out, Malik out....
 
SK should be blame to keep Azhar as a captain along with Misbah and Waqar
 
Very less posts in the thread looks like people are really losing interest from Pak LOI matches,team NEEDS to perform.
 
Azhar bowling was a good move but went wrong. He could have picked a wicket with batsman going after him
 
Just goes to show how much of a difference a captain can make. Azhar is pathetic and shouldn't be anywhere near the ODI side, his captaincy has affected the whole teams morale.
 
Wahab-Mir Hamza
Yasir -Muhammad Asghar
Hafeez-Saud Shakeel
Malik-Rizwan
Azhar Ali-Fakhar Zamaan
 
One whitewash hasn't changed things, we thumped them in the T20 WC.

Pak supporters should realise Test, ODI, T20 is different format!!!
In ODI's before telling others minnow!!! They should at least say MINNOW LIKE US!!!
 
And then they have confidence to say "we don't deserve to be number nine team" with straight face, how shameless you can be. Disgusting!
 
By the welcome to the modern day cricket.. the one we all hate.. :))

Pakistan needs an upgrade badly...
 
TBH they did well in Asia cup as well,they have improved and if Fizz is playing on flat pitches i would give them higher chance to win.

I'm not taking anything away from them. We're not that wack as a team, I'm saying we can literally thump Ireland, Afg, Kenya etc, but we can compete well with BD, WI and SL. Facing anyone above them is a myth.
 
Look at the body language of our players it looks like they have already given up if there was any hope left.
 
The only bowler giving effort in every spell is amir . Every bowler going over 7 he is going at under 5 and his speed never falls in his second spell
 
Five losses in the last six matches don't mean anything but one win for Pakistan means they are better :facepalm:

It's just a phase man, their last victory against us before the whitewash was in 1999. It was bound to happen anyway.
 
pathetic fielding really. You know the batsman is gonna play towards you and yet no1 seems to give a sh it about it...
 
Not many people are gonna like what I'm gonna say but the only way to improve is to select good players from List A and arrange matches against minnows like Zim, Bang, Afg and also against the lower tier teams we're usually good against like WI and SL to build their confidence up. Make our players bag up wickets and some centuries then play them against the big guns.

In ODIs we are much better overall and not just in Bangladesh. I would back ourselves in UAE as well. On neutral venues as well, we have the upper hand given that our pace attack is currently better.

Fizz, Taskin(he will test his action again and should get unbanned), Al Amin, Rubel and Mash isn't half bad.
 
I'm not taking anything away from them. We're not that wack as a team, I'm saying we can literally thump Ireland, Afg, Kenya etc, but we can compete well with BD, WI and SL. Facing anyone above them is a myth.

Fair enough.
 
In ODIs we are much better overall and not just in Bangladesh. I would back ourselves in UAE as well. On neutral venues as well, we have the upper hand given that our pace attack is currently better.

Fizz, Taskin(he will test his action again and should get unbanned), Al Amin, Rubel and Mash isn't half bad.

Form wise you're better but I don't think you lot are good enough to challenge top teams abroad, whereas BD are pretty decent at home now in ODI's.
 
With time England is keep getting better and we are getting worse!!!Whitewash is imminent.
 
Body language of the players is truly shocking :facepalm:

Captain coming on and bowling then getting hit for 20 runs sums up his whole pathetic tenure thus far.
 
Hales at this stage should just do the hail mary and literally smack anything that comes his way.
 
I really want to hear what Shoaib Akhtar says in his analysis about our ODI team, I'm in for a big laugh
 
Form wise you're better but I don't think you lot are good enough to challenge top teams abroad, whereas BD are pretty decent at home now in ODI's.

You are right about struggling to win in SA, Aus, NZ, Eng

However, it is not really our fault that we haven't played too often in these countries. Last time we were hosted by one of the above teams was way way back in 2010 vs England and New Zealand. All that considering that we have been on an upward spiral since then
 
My blood will boil if I see our batsmen play out many dot balls, blocking and treating this flat pitch as if it was a green mamba.
 
You are right about struggling to win in SA, Aus, NZ, Eng

However, it is not really our fault that we haven't played too often in these countries. Last time we were hosted by one of the above teams was way way back in 2010 vs England and New Zealand. All that considering that we have been on an upward spiral since then

To be honest it's all about consistency, if you lot can keep winning and move up the rankings then BD will be a top team.
 
Does that make Ireland better than us when they beat us in 2007? :)))

ofcourse not, that is my point that one match shouldn't mean anything. I know we lost that encounter in WT20 and by a good margin but that doesn't necessarily indicate that Pakistan are much better than us in T20s.
 
England is not that capable to score 400 runs they have already slowed down.
 
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