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Great stuff. [MENTION=133760]Abdullah719[/MENTION] you have the next 3-4 picks right?
 
[MENTION=135989]world cup captain[/MENTION]'s pick is David Gower.

You're next [MENTION=151884]Kaddy[/MENTION].
 
last_knight said:
Jayawardene should have been picked much earlier

[MENTION=55088]Watsupdoc[/MENTION] another one gone.
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maddgenius said:
Don't think so. Jaya is round 10, round 11 pick at best
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One of those players who improved immensely with time.. Not a superstar but certainly at par or better than Amla, Younis, Laxman, Babar, Gayle, Martyn etc.

Guess he took his test average to 56 at one point
 
An interesting point to note is that in a test draft, we have a lot of very good to great players making it as 10th or 11th pick because for test cricket, there are lot of players from past that joins the list. The sample size is almost 100 years to choose from.

However, for ODIs, it is unlikely that we will have enough solid picks left in the final slot because ODI cricket started from 70s, so it limits the time period to 50 years only.
 
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Ab Fan said:
An interesting point to note is that in a test draft, we have a lot of very good to great players making it as 10th or 11th pick because for test cricket, there are lot of players from past that joins the list. The sample size is almost 100 years to choose from.

However, for ODIs, it is unlikely that we will have enough solid picks left in the final slot because ODI cricket started from 70s, so it limits the time period to 50 years only.
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Probably not we will see.

ODIs also have a bigger pool of players. Besides margin is very tight between ODI players.

Besides when you look back the black and white days it's only a England, Australia, predominantly and some players from WI, RSA

In ODIs some of the other nations have produced a lot of great players.
 
freelance_cricketer said:
One of those players who improved immensely with time.. Not a superstar but certainly at par or better than Amla, Younis, Laxman, Babar, Gayle, Martyn etc.

Guess he took his test average to 56 at one point
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Jaya is not better than Laxman or Amla or Babar.
 
freelance_cricketer said:
One of those players who improved immensely with time.. Not a superstar but certainly at par or better than Amla, Younis, Laxman, Babar, Gayle, Martyn etc.

Guess he took his test average to 56 at one point
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Jaya with an average of 31 in SENA? I don't think so

Of course he should have been picked ahead of Babar and probably Laxman. All other batsmen you mentioned were consistently good all over the world. Amla should have retired an year ago than he did while his average was around 50. Gayle being an opener isn't comparable
 
Bezli said:
Jaya is not better than Laxman or Amla or Babar.
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Who is Babar Azam? He's a nobody in test cricket till now.

Laxman and Amla also don't have anything out of the world in their favour to put them over Mahela so easily.

Mahela after a good amount of test cricket averaged 56 in test cricket at one point.
 
freelance_cricketer said:
Probably not we will see.

ODIs also have a bigger pool of players. Besides margin is very tight between ODI players.

Besides when you look back the black and white days it's only a England, Australia, predominantly and some players from WI, RSA

In ODIs some of the other nations have produced a lot of great players.
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Yes, hope so. It will be fun and I think we will have higher sub continent names in ODIs than we found in tests.
 
freelance_cricketer said:
Mahela after a good amount of test cricket averaged 56 in test cricket at one point.
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I rechecked.

His peak average after 108 test matches was 54.67

Not as good as 56 as i claimed but very good for anyone having played 108 tests
 
Ab Fan said:
I thought somebody has already taken that. What a pick! This is arguably the greatest pick of this draft coming up at that lower slot.
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Someone picked Mike Proctor. It's right up there as well.

Both of them were on my list at some point..
 
maddgenius said:
Jaya with an average of 31 in SENA? I don't think so

Of course he should have been picked ahead of Babar and probably Laxman. All other batsmen you mentioned were consistently good all over the world. Amla should have retired an year ago than he did while his average was around 50. Gayle being an opener isn't comparable
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Ricky Ponting averages 20 in India.

Not all players travel great. He was very dominant at home and has a world cup final hundred to his name.
 
Ab Fan said:
I thought somebody has already taken that. What a pick! This is arguably the greatest pick of this draft coming up at that lower slot.
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freelance_cricketer said:
Someone picked Mike Proctor. It's right up there as well.

Both of them were on my list at some point..
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Just realized it was Kaddy picking both Proctor and Bond.

You have absolutely nailed some of the picks bro
 
freelance_cricketer said:
Ricky Ponting averages 20 in India.

Not all players travel great. He was very dominant at home and has a world cup final hundred to his name.
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Ricky Ponting still averages 40+ in Asia though. It wasn't as if he was a dud on spinning tracks. Mahela on the other hand has an abysmal record on pace friendly wickets.
 
freelance_cricketer said:
Just realized it was Kaddy picking both Proctor and Bond.

You have absolutely nailed some of the picks bro
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I was deliberating between Procter and Davidson. In hindsight, should have gone with Procter as there are still quality pacers left for 3rd/4th pacer spot in my XI but no one who even comes close to Procter for the #7 spot. Now I'll have to compromise either on the bowling of my 5th bowler or would have to bat Hadlee at 7 and Davidson at #8 to have a quality 5th bowling option
 
maddgenius said:
Ricky Ponting still averages 40+ in Asia though. It wasn't as if he was a dud on spinning tracks. Mahela on the other hand has an abysmal record on pace friendly wickets.
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:jaya
Might not be considered an ATG, but he is one of the best of all time against spinners and there is a reason I got him playing at #5, where on average the cricket ball is the oldest.

Plus, he is my favorite player of all time,
I'll take him any day over the geysers you picked. :yk2
 
Two picks to go.

I want this next guy very very badly
 
freelance_cricketer said:
Two picks to go.

I want this next guy very very badly
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Debating whether I should take a batsman with my last pick or Shakib.

That would make me the only person to have a player from each country,
because I know you are avoiding selecting a Pakistani. :azhar2
 
Rayyman said:
:jaya
Might not be considered an ATG, but he is one of the best of all time against spinners and there is a reason I got him playing at #5, where on average the cricket ball is the oldest.

Plus, he is my favorite player of all time,
I'll take him any day over the geysers you picked. :yk2
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:)))

Who's your number 3 ?

Assuming KP plays at 4
 
Rayyman said:
:jaya
Might not be considered an ATG, but he is one of the best of all time against spinners and there is a reason I got him playing at #5, where on average the cricket ball is the oldest.

Plus, he is my favorite player of all time,
I'll take him any day over the geysers you picked. :yk2
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You may even pick Asad Shafiq over those bona fide ATG geysers, I won't mind :srt

Your team, your marzi :ssa
 
Rayyman said:
Debating whether I should take a batsman with my last pick or Shakib.

That would make me the only person to have a player from each country,
because I know you are avoiding selecting a Pakistani. :azhar2
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Hahaha I had a serious thought about putting Haneef in there at #3. Went for Martin Crowe simply because i am avoiding to give this team a very black and white feel.

I think you already have a very appropriate guy in mind. I will say think a bit more there's another guy with similar role with more swag :p
 
freelance_cricketer said:
Hahaha I had a serious thought about putting Haneef in there at #3. Went for Martin Crowe simply because i am avoiding to give this team a very black and white feel.

I think you already have a very appropriate guy in mind. I will say think a bit more there's another guy with similar role with more swag :p
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You need a spinner and a pacer. [MENTION=151648]therealAB[/MENTION] needs 2 openers so you're safe. Da Future knick may steal your pacer though
 
maddgenius said:
You need a spinner and a pacer. [MENTION=151648]therealAB[/MENTION] needs 2 openers so you're safe. Da Future knick may steal your pacer though
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It's totally between me and Da_Future_Knick right now lol both have two bowling spots to fill

But wait he needs a keeper too doesn't he?
 
Rayyman said:
Williamson, only Sanga, Dravid, Ponting and Amla have more runs at #3. Probably the hardest position to bat in Test cricket.
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Perfect.

Gayle and KP are explosive, others to provide stability
 
I think i am the only one to designate my captain (Clive Lloyd)

Who are your captains.

Surely Sobers for [MENTION=151648]therealAB[/MENTION] and Imran for [MENTION=137148]Rayyman[/MENTION]
 
[MENTION=132969]Da_Future_Knick[/MENTION] has 3 openers and a Rahul Dravid

I fear a dressing room.clash over who let's go their batting position
 
freelance_cricketer said:
Perfect.

Gayle and KP are explosive, others to provide stability
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Yeah I need a #6. Probably the weirdest position. You need a guy who averages 40+ who can play spin and the new ball, plus counterattack when needed.

maddgenius said:
You may even pick Asad Shafiq over those bona fide ATG geysers, I won't mind :srt

Your team, your marzi :ssa
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Guess who has the second most runs at the batting position I need...:asad1
 
Rayyman said:
Yeah I need a #6. Probably the weirdest position. You need a guy who averages 40+ who can play spin and the new ball, plus counterattack when needed.


Guess who has the second most runs at the batting position I need...:asad1
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Lol he'd be a steal then. Mubarak ho :ghalib
 
8/9 out of my players were captains

A lot of leadership in the group. Hope no clashes lol :viv
 
Guys there are some great batsmen available:

Ranatunga, Misbah, Trescothick, Sarwan, Gibbs, Ganguly, just to name a few...:virat1

If you need more ideas I can let you know :hasnain
 
Rayyman said:
Guys there are some great batsmen available:

Ranatunga, Misbah, Trescothick, Sarwan, Gibbs, Ganguly, just to name a few...:virat1

If you need more ideas I can let you know :hasnain
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Misbah would have been a 1st round pick if [MENTION=135038]Major[/MENTION] or [MENTION=134608]Hawkeye[/MENTION] were part of this draft :salute
 
maddgenius said:
He should be available. [MENTION=137148]Rayyman[/MENTION] is really lucky that Bezli and Haris Bhai are done with their middle order bats :shafiq2
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My middle-order is pretty stacked already. Thinking of selecting a specialist fielder. :shadab
 
maddgenius said:
Just saw you don't have a spinner yet so you must be planning to bat Imran at #6 unless you go for a spin AR
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Chris Gayle has 73 wickets in Tests, while KW and KP can also bowl. My pacers will be effective on any pitch.

Aside from Shakib (who only has 3000 odd runs), there is no great spin batting all-rounder.

I am not sacrificing a specialist batsman for a bits and pieces all-rounder. :asad2
 
Rayyman said:
Chris Gayle has 73 wickets in Tests, while KW and KP can also bowl. My pacers will be effective on any pitch.

Aside from Shakib (who only has 3000 odd runs), there is no great spin batting all-rounder.

I am not sacrificing a specialist batsman for a bits and pieces all-rounder. :asad2
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You can pick a spin bowling AR though to bat at 8. There are 2-3 world class spin bowling AR's left
 
Hope [MENTION=133760]Abdullah719[/MENTION] has [MENTION=151648]therealAB[/MENTION] pick since he's only going to pick openers now
 
[MENTION=137148]Rayyman[/MENTION] He won't be available till your next pick so don't bother :usman

His name has already been pm'd to a mod like an hour ago
 
[MENTION=151648]therealAB[/MENTION]'s pick is Herbert Sutcliffe.

You're up @freelance cricketer
 
[MENTION=137148]Rayyman[/MENTION]

Yes he was very good. He had hundreds in Australia against the likes of Lillee and Thomson. Hundred in India against Bedi, Chandra and Prasanna. Few centuries against Windies against Holding,Roberts etc so very solid batsman with 5fers. Also, he's among the very few bowlers who could bowl spin/seam equally good so can play as a second spinner or 4th seamer depending upon the conditions.
 
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