Pakistan v New Zealand | 1st Test - Day 4 | Dunedin | 27/11/09

[Rizie]

even the third empire makes bad decisions against us

 

[iHammad]

raining now...covers on
they have taken tea

 

[Shoaib Akhtar's Fan]

They are taking an early tea.

 

[fawad_wellwisher]

Rudy got it wrong big time.

This technology thing is going to expose these useless umpires I tell you.

 

[Genghis]

In essence NZ 6/212. If we can keep them to around 250, we will be well and truly in the box seat.

 

[slix10]

Damnit, rain go away. Asif was bowling great.

And commentators speculating about the wrong decision made. (the no ball)

 

[Juggernaut]

Now I thought that if you're foot is raised behind the line it's a no ball but apparently it doesn't matter if the foot is up or down as long as some part is behind the line.

Moral of the story: Grant Elliot was out. Doctrove and Koertzen are, and I quote Stewie Griffin, ''douche bags''.

 

[Seen Sheen]

First time in the series,NZ Commentators talking some sense,they are saying that it was a legitimate delivery and 3rd umg.made a wrong decision..

 

[Cheguvera]

Doull is adamant that it's not a no-ball.

He has a point that Asif's foot landed and then slid. It's so close.

The rule is that the foot or some part of it has to land behind the line, which it clear does in this case, and it can slide forward after landing...

As a result it was not a no ball...

 

[Syndrome]

Cause Asif is the one who bowled the illegal delivery.

It's a rule that's always been in place ever since this technology came into place and I think it's fair. Why shouldn't your review be revoked if you stepped over the line?

Thats because if the umpire did the job, the team would not waste the review! The review involves the team claiming they've got the player out, which was true in this case. The team or bowler has no way of knowing whether he has bowled a no ball or not. If its a no ball, dont give it out, but dont count the review.

Now even the commentators concede that it wasn't a conclusive no ball.

 

[Poison]

Now I thought that if you're foot is raised behind the line it's a no ball but apparently it doesn't matter if the foot is up or down as long as some part is behind the line.

Moral of the story: Grant Elliot was out. Doctrove and Koertzen are, and I quote Stewie Griffin, ''douche bags''.

Tbh I would rather have McCullum back in the hutch than Elliot.

 

[Cover Drive]

By any chance is Rudi blind? Or does he has "line blindness"?

 

[Cheguvera]

One thing has been confirmed without a shadow of the doubt...Rudi is a cheat and more so when he can't even make the decision with all the evidence right in his face...

 

[Juggernaut]

Tbh I would rather have McCullum back in the hutch than Elliot.

Same. But it had to be said.

 

[Blistering Barnacle]

Umpires getting exposed big time.

First Doctrove was wrong on the first challenge.

Then, on the second challenge, if he didn't think it was a no ball, it should have been out.

Finally, Rudi gets it wrong with the no-ball call, according to the commentators who checked the rulebook.

 

[Cheguvera]

Tbh I would rather have McCullum back in the hutch than Elliot.

Why be mutually exclusive...why not both in the hut...which in this case would have very well happened...

 

[fawad_wellwisher]

By any chance is Rudi blind? Or does he has "line blindness"?

No, just incompetent.

 

[Poison]

I think you guys are being too harsh on Rudi here...on first look it looked like a no-ball. The person who should be blamed is Doctrove. He didn't see the no-ball at first, and then missed the PLUMB LBW. He failed on both counts as an umpire.

 

[GLORY OF '92]

Going to read eid in 5 hrs....pull an allnighter or is it just going to continue raining?

 

[Seen Sheen]

Will the rain save NZ?

No

 

[Afridi_Fan]

Rudi I want to say this to you.


#$%^&*&(&%^&*%^*&(^%#$%^&^$%$&*(*&%$^&(^%#$%$%&*(^#$%^*&^%$#


Translate it yourself.

 

[*syed59*]

Thats because if the umpire did the job, the team would not waste the review! The review involves the team claiming they've got the player out, which was true in this case. The team or bowler has no way of knowing whether he has bowled a no ball or not. If its a no ball, dont give it out, but dont count the review.

Now even the commentators concede that it wasn't a conclusive no ball.

exactly!

we should still be having both reviews intact.

 

[siccric]

last ten overs have gone for 5 runs with the loss of two wickets

 

[Genghis]

Tbh I would rather have McCullum back in the hutch than Elliot.

I would rather have them both!

 

[Inswinger]

I think you guys are being too harsh on Rudi here...on first look it looked like a no-ball. The person who should be blamed is Doctrove. He didn't see the no-ball at first, and then missed the PLUMB LBW. He failed on both counts as an umpire.

Rudi what the freakin befit of the replays!!! Doctrove had to make the call instantly. All blame is on Rudi.

 

[*syed59*]

I think you guys are being too harsh on Rudi here...on first look it looked like a no-ball. The person who should be blamed is Doctrove. He didn't see the no-ball at first, and then missed the PLUMB LBW. He failed on both counts as an umpire.

the thing is why didnt the 3rd umpire viewed the noball with that focused camera view?
if he had done that, it would have become clear to him

 

[Blistering Barnacle]

I think you guys are being too harsh on Rudi here...on first look it looked like a no-ball. The person who should be blamed is Doctrove. He didn't see the no-ball at first, and then missed the PLUMB LBW. He failed on both counts as an umpire.

No, the foot on landing was partially behind the line, so it was definitely a legitimate delivery.

 

[Juggernaut]

These two are the last recognised pair. Get one of them and let's clean up the tail.

 

[mmkextreme_1]

how is the weather looking?

 

[Big Mac]

I think you guys are being too harsh on Rudi here...on first look it looked like a no-ball. The person who should be blamed is Doctrove. He didn't see the no-ball at first, and then missed the PLUMB LBW. He failed on both counts as an umpire.

Person who should be blamed is Asif for not marking out his run up so he lands with at least half his foot behind the line, that and Doctrove for being utterly useless but we already knew about him.

 

[Juggernaut]

I think you guys are being too harsh on Rudi here...on first look it looked like a no-ball. The person who should be blamed is Doctrove. He didn't see the no-ball at first, and then missed the PLUMB LBW. He failed on both counts as an umpire.

Yeah but he's the bloody third umpire. He get's a closer look at it. He must have seen Asif's foot behind the line.

To be honest I don't think he was fully aware of the no ball rule.

 

[Inswinger]

how is the weather looking?

According to weather.com there is a 20% chance of precipitation throughout the evening.

 

[zimran72]

I think you guys are being too harsh on Rudi here...on first look it looked like a no-ball. The person who should be blamed is Doctrove. He didn't see the no-ball at first, and then missed the PLUMB LBW. He failed on both counts as an umpire.

Rudi clearly is unaware of the rules its fairly obvious the foot landed behind the line and the law about front foot no-balls was clarified by the commentators for anyone who was unsure of the law

 

[Cheguvera]

Person who should be blamed is Asif for not marking out his run up so he lands with at least half his foot behind the line, that and Doctrove for being utterly useless but we already knew about him.

No $h!+, I am surprised you didn't blame Asif's mother for giving birth to him...

 

[Juggernaut]

Person who should be blamed is Asif for not marking out his run up so he lands with at least half his foot behind the line, that and Doctrove for being utterly useless but we already knew about him.

Haha

You're not funny

 

[abdulqadir786]

is it still raining guys

 

[Juggernaut]

No $h!+, I am surprised you didn't blame Asif's mother for giving birth to him...

He probably would if you gave him the chance.

 

[zimran72]

Person who should be blamed is Asif for not marking out his run up so he lands with at least half his foot behind the line, that and Doctrove for being utterly useless but we already knew about him.

edit

 

[Imy]

Guys missed the sessions is it the wicket still flat or is it playing tricks

 

[tauseefm]

Rudi I want to say this to you.


#$%^&*&(&%^&*%^*&(^%#$%^&^$%$&*(*&%$^&(^%#$%$%&*(^#$%^*&^%$#


Translate it yourself.

How about this

Rudi &#70&#85&#67&#75 &#85
hint (http://www.asciitable.com/)

 

[Juggernaut]

is it still raining guys

Dunno about that but play's stopped anyway because they've taken the Tea interval

 

[abdulqadir786]

is it still raining

 

[Poison]

I'm quite sure the wicket is still very flat, we've just bowled well and they've gone into their shell. This is a good test match :aamir

 

[Afridi_Fan]

Person who should be blamed is Asif for not marking out his run up so he lands with at least half his foot behind the line, that and Doctrove for being utterly useless but we already knew about him.

) ) ) )

 

[Seen Sheen]

I think you guys are being too harsh on Rudi here...on first look it looked like a no-ball. The person who should be blamed is Doctrove. He didn't see the no-ball at first, and then missed the PLUMB LBW. He failed on both counts as an umpire.

are you alright?it seems that Rudi isnt even aware of cricket laws.!

 

[zimran72]

Doull is adamant that it's not a no-ball.

He has a point that Asif's foot landed and then slid. It's so close.

So you admit you were wrong when you claimed it was a no-ball.

There is definitely some foot behind the line and rule was clarified by the commentators. Where is the doubt now?

 

[Gollum]

These nincompoops have nothing better to do than screw Pakistan at every opportunity.

 

[Juggernaut]

Guys missed the sessions is it the wicket still flat or is it playing tricks

It's not doing a lot for the bowler's. It's reversing a little bit.

The simple fact is that the bowler's have just bowled really well. Hit the right area's, kept it tight and kept up the pressure.

 

[Afridi_Fan]

No $h!+, I am surprised you didn't blame Asif's mother for giving birth to him...

He will probably do that in a couple of minutes. Come on Mac.

 

[imshally81]

what about weather guyz ???

 

[Inswinger]

is it still raining

No way to tell. Cricinfo is relying on the TV broadcast for the commentary because they have no one at the ground. So we'll only be able to tell when the coverage resumes after tea.

 

[Shaheerthe2nd]

Is it still raining?

 

[imshally81]

yes itz still raining

 

[Gollum]

Time for scenarios. Right now the lead is 212. What is the largest score we can realistically score and in what amount of overs?

 

[Inswinger]

Is it still raining?

Refer to the post above...

 

[Poison]

Covers are still on.

 

[mmkextreme_1]

No way to tell. Cricinfo is relying on the TV broadcast for the commentary because they have no one at the ground. So we'll only be able to tell when the coverage resumes after tea.

that is pathetic on the end of cricinfo..

 

[Cover Drive]

yes itz still raining

Heavy rain?

 

[slix10]

Looks like that rain dance backfired.

 

[*syed59*]

the covers are still on....but its only drops of rain... nothin heavy with what little i could see there behind the scorecard

 

[imshally81]

i think we can chase 300 in 90 overz

 

[Poison]

Not hammering down.

 

[imshally81]

Heavy rain?

noooooooooo

 

[Poison]

Still a chance for all three results

 

[mmkextreme_1]

i think we can chase 300 in 90 overz

yeah rite...lets be realistic here..I think 250 will be a tough ask with this batting lineup!

 

[slix10]

Time for scenarios. Right now the lead is 212. What is the largest score we can realistically score and in what amount of overs?

275 in 90 overs.

 

[mmkextreme_1]

noooooooooo

yeahhhh! so play should start momentarily Inshallah!!!

doing dua right now! Inshallah we got this! just need to get those last four wickets in quick succession!

 

[Poison]

275 in 90 overs.

If we can bowl them out today or before lunch tomorow, I think chasing abou 250 in 65 overs is not impossible. It depends on our mindset though.

 

[ajk88]

We're back after tea but the news isn't good for the moment. The covers are still on but it isn't raining very heavily.

 

[mmkextreme_1]

We're back after tea but the news isn't good for the moment. The covers are still on but it isn't raining very heavily.

 

[Poison]

We're back after tea but the news isn't good for the moment. The covers are still on but it isn't raining very heavily.

If you watch the broadcast, they're about to take the covers off, thats how light the rain is.

 

[Cover Drive]

But the question now is that will MoYo use his fast bowlers after the rain? He certainly doesn't want them to get injured and we have witnessed that he isn't willing to play under wet conditions

 

[imshally81]

good newz
rain in stop now

 

[slix10]

Rain gone for now. Here we go.

 

[Inswinger]

Covers being removed.

 

[Shaheerthe2nd]

covers are being removed.

 

[Big Mac]

He will probably do that in a couple of minutes. Come on Mac.

Never met the lady, wouldn't want to pass comment.

Cry all you want but given the history of our bowlers overstepping at inopportune times you'd think they'd learn eventually. It's just laziness and indiscipline, only takes a minute to mark out your run up properly in practice but acting like a professional has proved to be beyond our players forever.

 

[slix10]

8 minutes away from resuming play.

 

[Inswinger]

Shameless smile by Rudi.

 

[Juggernaut]

Never met the lady, wouldn't want to pass comment.

Cry all you want but given the history of our bowlers overstepping at inopportune times you'd think they'd learn eventually. It's just laziness and indiscipline, only takes a minute to mark out your run up properly in practice but acting like a professional has proved to be beyond our players forever.

He didn't over step Mac. That was the whole point of the argument